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Shamis Orzoz
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.24 04:19:00 -
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Edited by: Shamis Orzoz on 24/07/2007 04:20:11
Quote: 2007.07.24 03:59:03 Combat Your 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II lightly hits Tancred [FRICK](Megathron), doing 52.2 damage.
This evening I watched a FRICK megathron undock from lxw and head to RO9O. So I chased in my vaga. I caught up with him in MA-V. I know FRICK are well respected in the eve community, so I figured this guy might actually be looking for a fight. I made sure to stay out of web range in case he had blasters.
I was so focused on getting him scrambled and staying out of web range, that I never noticed him log out. I was happily digging into his armor when he went poof...
I normally wouldn't bother reporting such a thing. I typically have somewhere between 10-40 people log out on me every month. But FRICK!!! I thought more of you. I hope something is done.
And I'm certain the logout was deliberate. The guy saw me on the gate behind him. He jumped and logged. Then he logged back in about 3 minutes later to see if he was still alive, which he was. He sabotaged his warp and logged out again.
Shamis
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Khorian
Gallente Excidium.
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Posted - 2007.07.24 04:34:00 -
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Is this really worth a new topic?
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Shamis Orzoz
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.24 04:37:00 -
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Originally by: Khorian Is this really worth a new topic?
yes. This isn't xelas, this isn't some random carebear corp, this is one of the more respected merc organizations in eve.
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Jacob Castillo
Caldari Copperhead Inc. Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.07.24 05:02:00 -
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Originally by: Khorian Is this really worth a new topic?
Probably not, but it will probably create some interesting discussion, flames and stuff like that. Should be fun.
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Superbus Maximus
Gallente Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.24 05:07:00 -
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Sh1t poster!!!!!!!!!!
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murder one
Gallente Death of Virtue FreeFall Securities
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Posted - 2007.07.24 05:13:00 -
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Originally by: Shamis Orzoz Edited by: Shamis Orzoz on 24/07/2007 04:20:11
Quote: 2007.07.24 03:59:03 Combat Your 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II lightly hits Tancred [FRICK](Megathron), doing 52.2 damage.
This evening I watched a FRICK megathron undock from lxw and head to RO9O. So I chased in my vaga. I caught up with him in MA-V. I know FRICK are well respected in the eve community, so I figured this guy might actually be looking for a fight. I made sure to stay out of web range in case he had blasters.
I was so focused on getting him scrambled and staying out of web range, that I never noticed him log out. I was happily digging into his armor when he went poof...
I normally wouldn't bother reporting such a thing. I typically have somewhere between 10-40 people log out on me every month. But FRICK!!! I thought more of you. I hope something is done.
And I'm certain the logout was deliberate. The guy saw me on the gate behind him. He jumped and logged. Then he logged back in about 3 minutes later to see if he was still alive, which he was. He sabotaged his warp and logged out again.
Shamis
Flying a Vaga is the equivilant of logging off. That is all.
Originally by: Goumindong it is at the point where it is impossible to determine whether or not you are trolling or if you area really out of your freaking mind.
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Shamis Orzoz
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.24 05:24:00 -
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Originally by: murder one Flying a Vaga is the equivilant of logging off. That is all.
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Golden Helmet
Caldari Team Americas
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Posted - 2007.07.24 06:16:00 -
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Originally by: murder one
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz Edited by: Shamis Orzoz on 24/07/2007 04:20:11
Quote: 2007.07.24 03:59:03 Combat Your 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II lightly hits Tancred [FRICK](Megathron), doing 52.2 damage.
This evening I watched a FRICK megathron undock from lxw and head to RO9O. So I chased in my vaga. I caught up with him in MA-V. I know FRICK are well respected in the eve community, so I figured this guy might actually be looking for a fight. I made sure to stay out of web range in case he had blasters.
I was so focused on getting him scrambled and staying out of web range, that I never noticed him log out. I was happily digging into his armor when he went poof...
I normally wouldn't bother reporting such a thing. I typically have somewhere between 10-40 people log out on me every month. But FRICK!!! I thought more of you. I hope something is done.
And I'm certain the logout was deliberate. The guy saw me on the gate behind him. He jumped and logged. Then he logged back in about 3 minutes later to see if he was still alive, which he was. He sabotaged his warp and logged out again.
Shamis
Flying a Vaga is the equivilant of logging off. That is all.
Someones been killed by a Vaga recently
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Mangold
Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.07.24 08:08:00 -
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Vagas suck. There's no room for loot in them.
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Logi3
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.07.24 08:12:00 -
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Edited by: Logi3 on 24/07/2007 08:12:17
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz Edited by: Shamis Orzoz on 24/07/2007 04:20:11
Quote: 2007.07.24 03:59:03 Combat Your 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II lightly hits Tancred [FRICK](Megathron), doing 52.2 damage.
This evening I watched a FRICK megathron undock from lxw and head to RO9O. So I chased in my vaga. I caught up with him in MA-V. I know FRICK are well respected in the eve community, so I figured this guy might actually be looking for a fight. I made sure to stay out of web range in case he had blasters.
I was so focused on getting him scrambled and staying out of web range, that I never noticed him log out. I was happily digging into his armor when he went poof...
I normally wouldn't bother reporting such a thing. I typically have somewhere between 10-40 people log out on me every month. But FRICK!!! I thought more of you. I hope something is done.
And I'm certain the logout was deliberate. The guy saw me on the gate behind him. He jumped and logged. Then he logged back in about 3 minutes later to see if he was still alive, which he was. He sabotaged his warp and logged out again.
Shamis
The true problem is in bold, you lack of skill points in gunnery clearly need to be improved, if you done the damage you would of killed him! TBH You need to stop the science and industry skills on get them in Gunnery
/serious on
I hate loggers, i think its quite sad myself that people know there going to lose so log off to save them. Cowards way out.
TBH theres no shame dying to another respectable PVP corp either
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DarkElf
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.07.24 08:12:00 -
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DE
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LoganFire
Amarr Quam Singulari M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.07.24 10:40:00 -
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ur boring
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Astro Teller
Milf Riders
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Posted - 2007.07.24 10:58:00 -
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eve is a PVP game- you use all mechanics to get ahead- welcome to PVP
----Astro Teller
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Neena Valdi
Art of War Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.07.24 11:01:00 -
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This is a serious crime FRICK!
This forum would crash if there were a separate topic for each one player who logged off. Also you can't really know if he logged off intentionally or not (in the perfect world Windows never crushes, the ISP always provides perfectly stable connection, etc - etc).
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Awox
Advanced Logistics
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Posted - 2007.07.24 11:04:00 -
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"well respected merc organisations" rofl.
Seriously, you didn't think they were above this did you? No matter how cool the corp is don't be surprised if some ******* is in there. Unless you start your own corp and filter out all the *******s you are bound to have one guy join that thinks it is okay to log off to save his stupid ass.
When I was in INFOD one time one of the new recruits seemed familiar.. after some thinking I realised he had logged off on me in the past. I made him undock and after showing fraps to a director we podded him. So if you fraps/screenshot these encounters perhaps you can hold hope for something like this to happen for you in the future.
It felt good.. real good. - Security Director Advanced Logistics |
Setana Manoro
Gallente Firefly Inc.
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Posted - 2007.07.24 11:08:00 -
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Originally by: Astro Teller eve is a PVP game- you use all mechanics to get ahead- welcome to PVP
What are you, CCP ? Show me how the use of a mechanic close to being clasified as exploit is OK ? If you didn't figure out what i was talking off, that guy entered a char on the same account so that his FRICK main can be safe, or the vaga would have killed him in that 15 min agro.
Caldari are the plague of EVE, little whiners that must be cleansed from TQ. |
hUssmann
Caldari Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.07.24 11:11:00 -
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Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Originally by: murder one Flying a Vaga is the equivilant of logging off. That is all.
x2
Ginger Magician > You are merely an effective ganker of haulers who runs at the first sign of combat. |
Mr Li
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Posted - 2007.07.24 11:33:00 -
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the only "rule" broken was a highly disputed social more, not quite a norm. If FRICK cares i'm sure they'll do something. Personally, i don't see the big deal that someone doesn't get their killmail.
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Boonaki
Caldari Knights of Chaos Chaos Incarnate.
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Posted - 2007.07.24 11:48:00 -
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I would say it's your fault for not killing him in the time alloted.
Fit more damage mods. Fear the Ibis of doom!
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DarkElf
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.07.24 11:53:00 -
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Originally by: Astro Teller eve is a PVP game- you use all mechanics to get ahead- welcome to PVP
Just no...
And nobody is saying they are breaking the game rules here, however some corps make a reputation for them based on honor and being respected. Fricks i believe is one of those. This kind of action makes most serious long term pvp'ers have a low opinion of the corp.
We'll see what a rep of fricks says.
DE
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Gunner Cid
The Carebear Stare
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Posted - 2007.07.24 13:04:00 -
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He may just have ****ty net, atm I currently play on satellite internet that I share with 20 other people, so I know all too well how much of a pita it is dcing every time you gate in a sys, warp to a belt, use scanner on a full sys, etc etc. It comes and goes based off weather/amount of user on net.
People who do log intentionally to save ship/pod are lame IMO, however, I think we should at least wait for a response from the individual before just assuming that they logged intentionally. I know if I crashed in cmbt and kept crashing when I would try to relog in I would want someone to give me the benefit of the doubt.
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Tobias Sjodin
Ore Mongers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.07.24 13:34:00 -
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Originally by: Gunner Cid He may just have ****ty net
There is no such thing as coincidence.
- Recruitment open again-
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Ssoraszh Tzarszh
Minmatar Grumpy Old Farts Gruntfuttocks
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Posted - 2007.07.24 13:44:00 -
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Like he will come here and cryingly admit his guilt and promises he'll never do it again
Yeh, logging off is lame, but people are getting fed up seeing the same ships apear on overview too. Vaga, Curse. Theres no end to them, caldari spec vets flying vaga's "cause they cant be killed" are swarming everywhere.
I probably won't ever log, unless its in a fleetbattle 200+ to save my pod. But i cn understand the utter frustration of people to be attacked by ever the same ship over and over and over and over and over and over ..again.
I'm just waiting for the next nerf to these ships so all these caldari spec "flavor of the month" crapola will finaly stop and they move on to another 99% safe way to gank someone. Which will take them anotehr 5 months to train and 9 to fly it properly aka not nooblike damage.
And yes i can fly vaga's too and no i am not bitter i was killed by one.
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Shamis Orzoz
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.24 14:31:00 -
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Edited by: Shamis Orzoz on 24/07/2007 14:31:55
Originally by: Ssoraszh Tzarszh Like he will come here and cryingly admit his guilt and promises he'll never do it again
Yeh, logging off is lame, but people are getting fed up seeing the same ships apear on overview too. Vaga, Curse. Theres no end to them, caldari spec vets flying vaga's "cause they cant be killed" are swarming everywhere.
I probably won't ever log, unless its in a fleetbattle 200+ to save my pod. But i cn understand the utter frustration of people to be attacked by ever the same ship over and over and over and over and over and over ..again.
I'm just waiting for the next nerf to these ships so all these caldari spec "flavor of the month" crapola will finaly stop and they move on to another 99% safe way to gank someone. Which will take them anotehr 5 months to train and 9 to fly it properly aka not nooblike damage.
And yes i can fly vaga's too and no i am not bitter i was killed by one.
The vaga was already nerfed. In order to make it difficult to kill you have to spend a lot of money on implants.
Hugins/rapiers do the job just fine. But there is no excuse in a megathron. A solo blasterthron pilot can take out a vaga easy, or at the very least, make the vaga run away. I'm guessing this guy had a fleet fitting on and knew he was dead.
But lets look at legitimate ways this guy could have escaped: - He could have put on 1 stab! I was by myself. - He could have stayed on the gate until I aggroed him, then jumped through. In order to force me to aggro he could have tried to warp off the gate. - once he was gone, he could've made a safespot, waited a little while and then logged.
There really wasn't much of a chance for me to kill him by myself, eve favors runners almost as much as loggers. He was on a gate, and I had no web. I see no evidence that would indicate that he crashed.The quick login/logout afterward leaves no doubt in my mind.
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Shamis Orzoz
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.24 14:34:00 -
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CCP is the real problem though. Until these things get fixed, eve will be crap: - It has to be possible to aggro people anytime before their ship disappears - jumping through gates should NOT clear aggro. - NPC's need to aggro, or there needs to be a delay on local. Ctrl Q should not be the preferred way of escaping potential hostiles in local.
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SasRipper
DIE WITH HONOUR
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Posted - 2007.07.24 14:55:00 -
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who was it? new guy? have your tried talking about it in there pub? or mailing a senior meamber?
and are your sure it may not have just been a crash of some discription ?
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Karlemgne
The Malevolent
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Posted - 2007.07.24 15:41:00 -
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Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Originally by: murder one Flying a Vaga is the equivilant of logging off. That is all.
I fly a Vaga and I agree. Speed tanking is dumb... I mean, I know you really wanted that kill... but lets be fair...
If you are in a ship and can do nothing to fight back, because you're ECM'd, Sensor Dampened, or being orbited so fast you might as well be one of those other two things, then there isn't much of a fight.
Why should he stay logged on just to pop without being able to really fire a shot?
-Karlemgne
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Karlemgne
The Malevolent
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Posted - 2007.07.24 15:41:00 -
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Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Originally by: murder one Flying a Vaga is the equivilant of logging off. That is all.
I fly a Vaga and I agree. Speed tanking is dumb... I mean, I know you really wanted that kill... but lets be fair...
If you are in a ship and can do nothing to fight back, because you're ECM'd, Sensor Dampened, or being orbited so fast you might as well be one of those other two things, then there isn't much of a fight.
Why should he stay logged on just to pop without being able to really fire a shot?
-Karlemgne
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Chode Rizoum
Minmatar Endgame.
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Posted - 2007.07.24 15:50:00 -
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he prop had buisness to do on his bob account!
"ohh no he didten!"
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SasRipper
DIE WITH HONOUR
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Posted - 2007.07.24 15:53:00 -
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Originally by: Chode Rizoum "ohh no he didten!"
OHH YES HE DID! btw this is not CAOD no panto here!
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