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Vyl Vit
Cambio Enterprises
269
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Posted - 2012.01.27 02:11:00 -
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The majority of players are convinced CCP will do nothing to address anything they consider in need of attention. The majority believes, as they do with real life institutions, that CCP has already established the limits they'll allow from player input. CCP revels in the thought that the majority believes there is some real player input that is significant to the majority of players, but beyond that belief, has no intention of doing anything but pretend the majority never said anything at all.
The CSM, however, specializes in advocating what CCP already agrees with. They simply push for a fine-tuning of matters the majority of players don't even deal with at all. This serves two functions for CCP. a.) It allows them to claim they listen to player input. b.) It frees them from having to listen to the majority - period.
The majority of players will NEVER vote for CSM since the CSM does nothing that affects the majority but ensure nothing is done with regard to the majority, and since that's the way things normally are, it's a wash. The majority does, however, agree in whole that the CSM is a joke, but it's the kind of joke the majority is accustomed to...not funny, and totally irrelevant.
SO....
Vote for me for CSM. I can booty-kiss and sling BS with the best of them! Anyone with any sense has already left town. |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
670
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Posted - 2012.01.27 02:15:00 -
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No...
The majority don't vote because they think the game is just fine the way it is and they really don't care about yet another event put on by CCP that is meaningless to them.
Mr Epeen Me too!-á I ate one sour, too! |
MadMuppet
Kerguelen Station
99
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Posted - 2012.01.27 02:16:00 -
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Some people save money to fly to Iceland... others just beg. I know I left a battleship in this station. Wait, you can put ships in Station Containers? ****! I just trashed them. |
Vyl Vit
Cambio Enterprises
269
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Posted - 2012.01.27 02:18:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:No... The majority don't vote because they think the game is just fine the way it is and they really don't care about yet another event put on by CCP that is meaningless to them. Mr Epeen No...the majority does NOT think everything's just fine the way it is. The majority just deals with things as they are knowing it's futile to say anything. Anyone with any sense has already left town. |
DarkAegix
Acetech Systems
874
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Posted - 2012.01.27 02:32:00 -
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What each CSM member stands for should be more apparent to voters. Under each candidate in the voting process, there should be a very little phrase which gives a rough indication of what the CSM member represents. For example: 'Wants more highsec iteration' or 'Death2allsupercaps' or 'Wants WiS' or 'Mining/Industry development' etc. |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
670
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Posted - 2012.01.27 02:40:00 -
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Vyl Vit wrote:Mr Epeen wrote:No... The majority don't vote because they think the game is just fine the way it is and they really don't care about yet another event put on by CCP that is meaningless to them. Mr Epeen No...the majority does NOT think everything's just fine the way it is. The majority just deals with things as they are knowing it's futile to say anything.
I wasn't talking about forum dweebs. I was talking about the people who actually play the game.
Try making a new character and spending some time in corp chat. These guys are, for the most part, having a blast. Your problem is you are bogged down with the idea that the no-lifes that spend their days here instead of enjoying the game are somehow representative of the EVE population in general.
That's not the case.
Mr Epeen
Me too!-á I ate one sour, too! |
Benilopax
The Ashen Lion Syndicate
181
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Posted - 2012.01.27 02:40:00 -
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The majority of players don't vote because the majority either don't frequent the forums do not have a good grasp of the english language are not informed directly by CCP why they should vote for the CSM or don't know who any of the candidates are and of course some just don't care.
I personally think their are too many candidates too as noone with a passing interest will look up all of them.
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Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
562
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Posted - 2012.01.27 02:45:00 -
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I suspect the major factors are either not understanding what the CSM does or already being cynical about the CSM as a result of past dissappointments with the CSM. There is also a good number of folks that see it as free vacations in Iceland for the most popular insiders of Eve.
Another factor is most discussion about the CSM is here in the forums and no one in Eve ever spends any time in here.
Issler Dainze Voice of Reason Party CSM 7 Candidate |
Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
531
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Posted - 2012.01.27 02:46:00 -
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I thought the reason they don't vote is they don't know/care about the CSM. |
Ioci
Space Mermaids
61
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Posted - 2012.01.27 02:49:00 -
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When I was in NC I voted for a Morsus Mihi Rep When I was in the South I voted for a rep in -A- and I was at war with them at the time.
I'm in High sec now. I don't vote there because I just don't give a ****. |
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Mr M
Agony Unleashed
91
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Posted - 2012.01.27 02:50:00 -
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If elected we in the Evil Party will steal candy from children and hurt cute animals.
Vote Evil Party 2012!
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Ioci
Space Mermaids
61
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Posted - 2012.01.27 03:19:00 -
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Mr M wrote:If elected we in the Evil Party will steal candy from children and hurt cute animals. Vote Evil Party 2012!
I can't see how. There is really nothing left of Caldari for them to nerf...
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Dirk Magnum
Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan
189
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Posted - 2012.01.27 03:23:00 -
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The majority of people don't vote because of laziness and apathy.
Besides, if the CSM doesn't do anything, then there's nothing to complain about. If the CSM does stupid things, CCP doesn't have to listen. If the CSM does smart things, CCP doesn't have to listen. If the CSM does something smart and CCP listens, then hey. If the CSM does something stupid and CCP listens, I mean come on they probably didn't need the CSM for that one. :CCP:
I just don't see the problem. My only issue is that alts get a vote, but I highly doubt CCP has a tool to prevent that. "For example, if you are thinking about selling a Republic Fleet Firetail as a regular Firetail, be sure that the market volume is high on regular Firetails and that there are plenty of buy/sell contracts for Republic Fleet Firetails. [...] The players most interested in Republic Fleet Firetails are going to be players flying regular ones."-á -- PB |
Mr M
Agony Unleashed
93
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Posted - 2012.01.27 03:31:00 -
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Us in the OCD party will forcefully work for more sort orders (as colours), remote stacking, and even ship design.
Vote OCD party 2012!
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Selinate
609
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Posted - 2012.01.27 03:53:00 -
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Why the majority doesn't vote for csm: Because the majority doesn't give a ****. |
Vyl Vit
Cambio Enterprises
271
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Posted - 2012.01.27 04:03:00 -
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Dirk Magnum wrote:The majority of people don't vote because of laziness and apathy.
Besides, if the CSM doesn't do anything, then there's nothing to complain about. If the CSM does stupid things, CCP doesn't have to listen. If the CSM does smart things, CCP doesn't have to listen. If the CSM does something smart and CCP listens, then hey. If the CSM does something stupid and CCP listens, I mean come on they probably didn't need the CSM for that one. :CCP:
I just don't see the problem. My only issue is that alts get a vote, but I highly doubt CCP has a tool to prevent that.
I guess you fail to realize, the CSM doesn't do anything for anyone but themselves and their cronies...which includes CCP. Apathy? No. For the reasons stated in the OP. Your response is the CSM's view. It sells the majority way short with pejorative language.
Vote for me for CSM. I can do nothing and not feel guilty about it! Anyone with any sense has already left town. |
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1320
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Posted - 2012.01.27 04:05:00 -
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well i dont vote, because quite frankly i am not that smart to know what is best for the game in general ..
I leave it to people with visions
And i dont really rage about any change, since it does not infulence my gameplay in slightest way.. i just adapt.. If they radically change gameplay...than i would probably quit.. .so far nothing like that happened.. |
Vyl Vit
Cambio Enterprises
271
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Posted - 2012.01.27 04:06:00 -
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Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:well i dont vote, because quite frankly i am not that smart to know what is best for the game in general .. I leave it to people with visions And i dont really rage about any change, since it does not infulence my gameplay in slightest way.. i just adapt.. If they radically change gameplay...than i would probably quit.. .so far nothing like that happened..
Vote for me for CSM! I have visions of being run over by a herd of buffalo! Anyone with any sense has already left town. |
None ofthe Above
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.01.27 04:28:00 -
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The real answer is that they've been waiting for the opportunity to vote for me.
Tired of the current CSM? Vote for me, I am None ofthe Above!
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Vyl Vit
Cambio Enterprises
271
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Posted - 2012.01.27 04:35:00 -
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None ofthe Above wrote:The real answer is that they've been waiting for the opportunity to vote for me. No, me! Anyone with any sense has already left town. |
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Ai Shun
190
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Posted - 2012.01.27 05:31:00 -
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Vyl Vit wrote:Vote for me for CSM. I can booty-kiss and sling BS with the best of them!
You just want to go to Iceland
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EnslaverOfMinmatar
BRAPELILLE MACRO BOT MINERS
3
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Posted - 2012.01.27 06:16:00 -
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I voted 'none' or something like that last time. Every EVE player must read this http://www.eveonline.com/background/potw/default.asp?cid=29-01-07 or uninstall and DIAF |
None ofthe Above
3
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Posted - 2012.01.27 06:21:00 -
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EnslaverOfMinmatar wrote:I voted 'none' or something like that last time.
Thank you for the vote. You can vote for me again this year.
Tired of the current CSM? Vote for me, I am None ofthe Above!
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Grumpy Owly
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
119
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Posted - 2012.01.27 06:51:00 -
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None ofthe Above wrote:EnslaverOfMinmatar wrote:I voted 'none' or something like that last time. Thank you for the vote. You can vote for me again this year.
Do you have billions of isk you need to get rid of to inherit a relatives fortune but can't speak about it, if so I'd gladly offer my services at an aggreeable rate?
"All griefers are lazy cowards with the current climate of broken player policing systems." |
Vyl Vit
Cambio Enterprises
273
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Posted - 2012.01.27 07:29:00 -
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Ai Shun wrote:Vyl Vit wrote:Vote for me for CSM. I can booty-kiss and sling BS with the best of them! You just want to go to Iceland I've never met a real Viking! Anyone with any sense has already left town. |
Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
1303
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Posted - 2012.01.27 07:48:00 -
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Another dumbass thinking he knows what the majority want. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
RubyPorto
Profoundly Disturbed RED.Legion
1293
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Posted - 2012.01.27 07:49:00 -
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DarkAegix wrote:What each CSM member stands for should be more apparent to voters. Under each candidate in the voting process, there should be a very little phrase which gives a rough indication of what the CSM member represents. For example: 'Wants more highsec iteration' or 'Death2allsupercaps' or 'Wants WiS' or 'Mining/Industry development' etc.
That exists. It's called the candidate's statement. If someone CBA to read a ~200wds on each candidate, Fuck them and the horse they rode in on. Democracy's hard, and if they can't read 200wds to figure out who to vote for, they deserve to get screwed, and I hope they don't bother to vote. Single-Shard, Player Driven Sandbox.
5 words. That's what makes it special in my eyes. |
RubyPorto
Profoundly Disturbed RED.Legion
1293
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Posted - 2012.01.27 07:50:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote:Another dumbass thinking he knows what the majority want.
Hey, I know what the majority want. They want to not be bothered by some popup trying to get them to vote. They told me so last election. Single-Shard, Player Driven Sandbox.
5 words. That's what makes it special in my eyes. |
Vyl Vit
Cambio Enterprises
273
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Posted - 2012.01.27 07:53:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote:Another dumbass thinking he knows what the majority want. You know, it's not so hard to do if you communicate with people, a skill you've yet to learn. So, continue to show your hiney. You do it so well. Anyone with any sense has already left town. |
RubyPorto
Profoundly Disturbed RED.Legion
1293
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Posted - 2012.01.27 07:58:00 -
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Vyl Vit wrote:Lady Spank wrote:Another dumbass thinking he knows what the majority want. You know, it's not so hard to do if you communicate with people, a skill you've yet to learn. So, continue to show your hiney. You do it so well.
Baby Spank's probably more well known than that Vyl Vit guy. Sounds like he can communicate just fine. Single-Shard, Player Driven Sandbox.
5 words. That's what makes it special in my eyes. |
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