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voodoo
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Posted - 2004.04.15 18:13:00 -
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lol you forum mod guys/gals in general make me LAFF, but then again I guess the whole point to having moderators is for them to stick there noses into every thing. gg cuz every post has an ISD guy telling us what to do and how to do it.
yes ccp does own the boards and can do with them as they wish, but every post has a ISD guy displaying the al mighty power cross them and your done
is it just me or is it getting annoying? so i can assume this will either be locked, banned , charged more, beatin down, or something else. Time will tell as the responses come flowing in
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Etoile Chercheur
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Posted - 2004.04.15 18:21:00 -
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IBTL! Midshipman Etoile Chercheur - Logistics Division (M&T) | Hadean Drive Yards
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voodoo
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Posted - 2004.04.15 18:30:00 -
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yes you did, however to prove me wrong naturally they'll stay away from this post i bet lol
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RagnarH
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Posted - 2004.04.15 18:36:00 -
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one word....POWERTRIP (long one) This char is perm banned on forums :S |
Aerick Dawn
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Posted - 2004.04.15 18:41:00 -
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INcredible ______________________
What Aerick has been up to lately.. |
voodoo
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Posted - 2004.04.15 18:44:00 -
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Quote: INcredible
INcredible edible, please dont eat my egg.
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Orestes
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Posted - 2004.04.15 18:58:00 -
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Funny.
First, we're not interacting with the community enough, then we are displaying our godlike power at every turn.
Can't please 'em all, appearantly
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voodoo
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Posted - 2004.04.15 19:12:00 -
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Quote: Funny.
First, we're not interacting with the community enough, then we are displaying our godlike power at every turn.
Can't please 'em all, appearantly
Funny, what part? Interacting with the community? Don't you mean controlling the community with your godlike powers over the forums? interaction to me would be 2 parts working together, not 1 part telling the other part how to act, what to say and who to kill.
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Mr nStuff
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Posted - 2004.04.15 19:20:00 -
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I think we need to open discussions on the custom splash screens again. Making them in PhotoShop and giving them to other players. This has absolutely nothing to do with violating EULA using 3rd party software. Because PhotoShop isn't a 3rd party proggy. Couldn't say that in the original post because it was locked so fast.
Ok thanks.
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toaster
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Posted - 2004.04.15 19:22:00 -
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I can see this one getting locked big time ------------------------------------------------
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Orestes
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Posted - 2004.04.15 19:23:00 -
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didn't know Photoshop was made by CCP :p
Quote: Funny, what part? Interacting with the community? Don't you mean controlling the community with your godlike powers over the forums? interaction to me would be 2 parts working together, not 1 part telling the other part how to act, what to say and who to kill
No, no, the godlike powers only get used behind the scenes.
That said, we have to tell people how to act at times, because we're here to enforce the rules. That's our primary job.
If you e-mail us with what your exact complaint is, perhaps I can elaborate further. If you have suggestions, feel free to email them as well.
[email protected], as always.
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Mr nStuff
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Posted - 2004.04.15 19:30:00 -
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Quote: didn't know Photoshop was made by CCP :p
it's photoshop..
If it were an EULA violation. That would make other things like using WinAMP in the background a violation of the EULA as well.
3rd party is referring to a proggy that works in conjunction with the main software.. Like using Excel macro's to AFK mine.
5 R&D Agents, 10months, Zero BPO Offers.. Onboard navigational [Planetary Avoidance] computer.
My account will be suspended at the end of the current play period. Expires on 19. September 2004 |
Orestes
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Posted - 2004.04.15 19:31:00 -
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If you don't believe me, file a petition
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Mr nStuff
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Posted - 2004.04.15 19:36:00 -
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I believe that there's a communication problem here.
That's what I believe to be the case.
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Dust Puppy
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Posted - 2004.04.15 20:03:00 -
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omg are we having a discussion on moderation __________ Capacitor research |
Wrangler
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Posted - 2004.04.15 20:06:00 -
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Quote: omg are we having a discussion on moderation
We are?
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.04.15 20:08:00 -
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I think the mods do a good job - they leave far too many locked threads around though. I'd rather they deleted all locked threads.
As for creating custom splash screens, as long as you aren't making a profit from them, what's the harm?
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Surefoot
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Posted - 2004.04.15 20:45:00 -
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Troll bait.
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Fetty Chico
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Posted - 2004.04.15 20:56:00 -
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Ya questionin de forum gods? AVERT YA GAZE MORTAL!!!!!
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Gaius Kador
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Posted - 2004.04.15 21:03:00 -
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Did anyone mention God???? ----------------------------------------------
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haggis
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Posted - 2004.04.15 21:08:00 -
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Quote: I think the mods do a good job - they leave far too many locked threads around though. I'd rather they deleted all locked threads
I disagree here, deltion of threads allows for conspiracy theories of mods sweeping stuff under the carpet.
And conspiracy theories with a very good foundation too, its not hard for one mod to go deleting threads he/she doesn't like and keeping that from the other mods.
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.04.15 21:12:00 -
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This is not a discussion on moderation.
If it was I might complain about how posts get deleted in threads, as if they were never made, when I think they should just delete the body of the mssg and put "modded" in their instead.
However, since we are not allowed to discuss these issues here, I will not mention it. Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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Tease
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Posted - 2004.04.15 21:16:00 -
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Quote: This is not a discussion on moderation.
If it was I might complain about how posts get deleted in threads, as if they were never made, when I think they should just delete the body of the mssg and put "modded" in their instead.
However, since we are not allowed to discuss these issues here, I will not mention it.
it's good you aren't talking about it then, or I'd feel compelled to agree with you and then mention how it infuriates me when they edit a message in a thread and then later reference the edit *they* made as something you did wrong when emailing a warning to you.
So it's a good thing we aren't talking about that sort of issue in this thread.
----------------------------------------- [2003.12.17 06:35:20] Corwin > Orvolle is .4? Doesn't that mean that it's less than .5 ? and isn't .5 what starts the danger level? [2003.12.30 07:15:50] Corwin > Tech 2, IE expanded cargo holds I, MIning lasers 2, etc.... TL2 is being released all around you [2003.12.30 07:21:20] Corwin > tech 2 is released to players. Some players are busy researching the BPs before building stuff. Others are sitting on the BPs making copies to make money off of them that way |
voodoo
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Posted - 2004.04.15 21:21:00 -
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Quote: No, no, the godlike powers only get used behind the scenes.
That said, we have to tell people how to act at times, because we're here to enforce the rules. That's our primary job.
If you e-mail us with what your exact complaint is, perhaps I can elaborate further. If you have suggestions, feel free to email them as well.
[email protected], as always.
My complaint cannot be an exact complaint because its a broad complaint, it just seems to me that when players emotions get involved just a lil in a thread, "for example the multiple NFA threads that appeared recently" players getting kicked outta there homes get mad wanna get even and just a lil smack talk comes out bam the mods threaten to lock the thread. All Im saying is it seems there pretty quick to throw around there power. Threats such as "keep it clean or I'll lock it" " I'm watching" I went threw the forums a bit and in almost every thread that can get emotional the mods wanna but in. IMO unless theres some racist pig or just blatent rl threats goin on let it alone. Dont just jump into a thread to throw around powers. Im not mentioning any ISD guys in general, but take a look at it is all. (have fun with us, don't be the iron fist lay down the law, do it this way or I'll ban ya type of mods. AS I once heard " ease up off our backz holmes" and hey if I'm the only one who feels this way pod me later is all i can say, but if Im not take into consideration all Im askin is a lil more freedom on the boards dats all.
thanx for your time Orestes voodoo out
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Wrangler
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Posted - 2004.04.15 21:23:00 -
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Well, if you're not discussing what you just said but then claimed not to discuss I guess it's ok.. no wait.
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voodoo
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Posted - 2004.04.15 21:39:00 -
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Quote: Well, if you're not discussing what you just said but then claimed not to discuss I guess it's ok.. no wait.
umm lol what?
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.04.15 22:42:00 -
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Edited by: ProphetGuru on 15/04/2004 22:44:13
Quote: Well, if you're not discussing what you just said but then claimed not to discuss I guess it's ok.. no wait.
Plz keep this post on topic. Thanks Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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Acix
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Posted - 2004.04.15 23:49:00 -
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My CEO shamis watched a normal reply post disapear, he re-wrote it, that one disapeared and then the original one came back somehow. Must have been some kind of demonic packet loss in his connection................
SNIGG is now officially open for business. We are a merc corp looking for contracts. For more info click below http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=68313 |
Scorpyn
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Posted - 2004.04.16 00:08:00 -
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Quote: My CEO shamis watched a normal reply post disapear, he re-wrote it, that one disapeared and then the original one came back somehow. Must have been some kind of demonic packet loss in his connection................
I have seen threads disappear and reappear, threads that didn't look like deletion candidates to me. Maybe sometimes 2 mods delete a thread at the same time, causing the wrong thread to be removed when trying to remove a thread that is already gone or something?
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Ajzhyn Raef
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Posted - 2004.04.16 03:46:00 -
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I think it really just comes down to ISD doing their jobs. They're ISD for a reason - to mod the forums, and thats what they do. They don't make up the rules, they just enforce it. And I'm sure they've got someone behind them making sure they DO enforce it. The threads they lock usually need to be locked because nothing constructive can come of it, they'll just deteriorate into a mudslinging contest or just inane ranting.
Perhaps its time for a new Section in the forums, like a General Discussion but where anything is allowed, of course with a disclaimer so the kiddies no to stay out else their ears be singed.
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Shittake
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Posted - 2004.04.16 08:04:00 -
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Just leave these forum mods alone.
It's simple. If you want to say something that they won't allow here, start your own forums . . advertise them as the "uncensored" forums . . then you can talk all you want.
In fact, I believe there are FREE ways to setup your own forums. Stop whining about these forums and go make your own.
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Wrangler
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Posted - 2004.04.16 10:28:00 -
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Quote: Plz keep this post on topic. Thanks
You applying for the mod team?
Quote: My CEO shamis watched a normal reply post disapear, he re-wrote it, that one disapeared and then the original one came back somehow. Must have been some kind of demonic packet loss in his connection................
Might be some form of bug, while we can both edit and delete posts, we can't bring back deleted posts.
Quote: I have seen threads disappear and reappear, threads that didn't look like deletion candidates to me. Maybe sometimes 2 mods delete a thread at the same time, causing the wrong thread to be removed when trying to remove a thread that is already gone or something?
Deleting is somewhat complicated, if it is deleted properly it should be gone forever. You sure the thread might not just have fallen off the first page? It might also have been moved to another forum, and then moved back for some reason.
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Macumba
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Posted - 2004.04.16 11:02:00 -
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This is what happens when you get a volunteer to do an employee's job.
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Gungankllr
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Posted - 2004.04.16 11:05:00 -
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This post smells of SMACKTARDS.
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Orestes
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Posted - 2004.04.16 11:10:00 -
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Quote: This is what happens when you get a volunteer to do an employee's job.
Are you offering me money, Macumba?
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Macumba
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Posted - 2004.04.16 11:20:00 -
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If it was performance related I think most of you would be sailing deep into P45 territory.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.04.16 11:21:00 -
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I think someone is annoyed that their forum moderator application was turned down.
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2004.04.16 11:41:00 -
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Quote:
Quote: I have seen threads disappear and reappear, threads that didn't look like deletion candidates to me. Maybe sometimes 2 mods delete a thread at the same time, causing the wrong thread to be removed when trying to remove a thread that is already gone or something?
Deleting is somewhat complicated, if it is deleted properly it should be gone forever. You sure the thread might not just have fallen off the first page? It might also have been moved to another forum, and then moved back for some reason.
If that is the case, the "moved to another forum and back" seems the most appropriate, as there were always older posts below that one on the first page (and I checked some of the second pages aswell).
I don't remember the names of the threads, but if it happens again I can try to write down the subject of it and send it somewhere so that someone can try to see what happened to it...
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Orestes
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Posted - 2004.04.16 11:45:00 -
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a ThreadID would be more useful. We don't have a search function either
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Macumba
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Posted - 2004.04.16 11:47:00 -
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Edited by: Macumba on 16/04/2004 11:50:11
Been there done that Josh my faithful old troll. To be honest I grew out of it.
Most decent communities are self-policed anyway. The only reason forums like this have moderators is purely for PR. No developer or publisher really cares about their community. So long as they keep paying their sub then everything is fine. What they don't want to see is disgruntled customers. Prospective customers see their posts and have second thoughts about buying the game, or in a worst case scenario some website/magazine gives them column inches over them and paints the game in a bad light. It's all about money. They are a business after all.
They use volunteers purely for this reason. If they really did care about their community and not just potential income they would hire a decent community manager that actually interacted with the community instead of being a walking talking news item, and they would hire moderators that encouraged people to post rather than discourage them. Volunteers cost nothing and there is little or no vetting process, they're highly cost effective. They'll keep on doing the job because they're the type of person that craves power (sorry to be Mr. Internet Psychoanalyst, but sadly it's true) and they'll do anything to hang on to it. I'm willing to bet there are people who are mods, polaris etc. that don't even play the game anymore yet still hang around for the fancy title.
Less power tripping. More genuine interaction. In fact, scratch the genuine bit, even if it was cynically transparent interaction it would be better than what we have now. Damn noobs.
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Orestes
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Posted - 2004.04.16 11:51:00 -
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Well, personally, I'm in it because I love the forums and want to keep em working. All of the vols play the game, as well, so that's not entirely true either.
As for genuinely interacting with the community, I'm all for it. What would you like to see, in that respect?
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SpiralArchitech
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Posted - 2004.04.16 11:54:00 -
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Hmmmm i would'nt say that EA (cue any sort of death tune) employ's its own community manager for C&C generals/Zerohour i forget the guys name as he is never there.
The forums there are pretty dead as in stone dead so i would'nt knock someone who does it of his on back to help the community as in this case.
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Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2004.04.16 11:55:00 -
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I'm willing to bet there are people who are mods, polaris etc. that don't even play the game anymore yet still hang around for the fancy title.
Actually, no You have to play the game otherwise you will be a lousy volunteer because you have no idea what's going on. It's vital for a good mod to know and understand what people are adressing even if they only use a few words to describe it. If you dont know what is going on and give flawed advice, you wont be with Polaris for a long time.
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Samsson
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Posted - 2004.04.16 12:37:00 -
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Being from the USA I take free press for granted. I may not agree with what someone has to say but I will defend to the death there right to say it. That being said and understanding not everyone agrees with freedom and this being a owned by a private entity they can moderate it to any degree they want to. I also have the freedom to post on less moderated eve forums and regulary do so. I do think a sandbox would be nice where no moderation takes place and those that dont like freedom then dont go to the sandbox. Power corrupts absolute power corrupts absolutly.
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Jin'Bing Ju
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Posted - 2004.04.16 12:41:00 -
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Quote:
is it just me or is it getting annoying?
Its just you.
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Tease
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Posted - 2004.04.16 12:55:00 -
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Quote: Actually, no You have to play the game otherwise you will be a lousy volunteer because you have no idea what's going on. It's vital for a good mod to know and understand what people are adressing even if they only use a few words to describe it.
Exactly.. God, just imagine what it would be like on patch days around here. it might even go so far as players seeing their legitimate, long-standing discussions about old, ongoing bugs modded/deleted/locked because some mod decides that *EVERY* bug discussion should go in a patch thread even though many of the discussions have absolutely nothing to do with a current patch..
Quote: If you dont know what is going on and give flawed advice, you wont be with Polaris for a long time.
That's a good thing to know.. The last thing any of us want to see is false info and incorrect instructions being passed on the help channel..
thank god none of that happens now ----------------------------------------- [2003.12.17 06:35:20] Corwin > Orvolle is .4? Doesn't that mean that it's less than .5 ? and isn't .5 what starts the danger level? [2003.12.30 07:15:50] Corwin > Tech 2, IE expanded cargo holds I, MIning lasers 2, etc.... TL2 is being released all around you [2003.12.30 07:21:20] Corwin > tech 2 is released to players. Some players are busy researching the BPs before building stuff. Others are sitting on the BPs making copies to make money off of them that way |
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