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Marcus TheMartin
Gallente Tuxedo.
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Posted - 2008.05.01 20:40:00 -
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Originally by: Dirk Magnum Edited by: Dirk Magnum on 01/05/2008 20:35:11
Originally by: Marcus TheMartin
The titan pilots computer could be considered a weakpoint
fire photon torpedo at the pilots house = titan down
I don't think any of the Titan classes have an exposed pod housing. The pod is probably located behind a kilometer of the ship's internal superstructure at least.
What about that big gaping orifice on the avatar FIRE ZE MISSILES
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5pinDizzy
Amarr Pwnage Distribution Inc.
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Posted - 2008.05.01 20:40:00 -
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I think nanotitan warping to 0 would win.
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Faife
Noctiscion Twilight Trade Cartel
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Posted - 2008.05.01 21:08:00 -
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ttl;dr.
has anyone mentioned you guys are nerds?
and what about batman vs a titan?
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Shakuul
Caldari Extreme Addiction Atrum Tempestas Foedus
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Posted - 2008.05.01 21:22:00 -
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death star hands down.
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Tarminic
Black Flame Industries
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Posted - 2008.05.01 21:26:00 -
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Originally by: Faife ttl;dr.
has anyone mentioned you guys are nerds?
and what about batman vs a titan?
Well Batman, obviously. ---------------- Tarminic - 35 Million SP in Forum Warfare Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.81 (Updated 4/8) |
UGWidowmaker
Caldari Setenta Corp Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service
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Posted - 2008.05.01 21:34:00 -
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would be damn nice to see death stars ingame.. should be able to do the same stuff as the titan. just much bigger and its firepower would only harm titans.. but doing that damn well.. the regs should be like
titan 5, doomsday device 5, death star 3. ohh and all the usual nav skill at 5..
the price should be 20* Titans. but it should have a cargo at like 100 bs. fitted ones. and not able to do em packed.. it should have a corp hangar wich is able to carry ammo and whatever fuel for poses. size. 1000000.
u would need like 40 dreads to even have a chance at killing it. OMFG
I am the widowmaker stay tuned.
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Rhatar Khurin
Minmatar Sten Industries
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Posted - 2008.05.01 21:40:00 -
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An EVE titan is about the same size as the Super star destroyer Executor, which obviously is completely dwarfed by the size of the Deathstar.
In ranged Combat the deathstar couldn't lose as it's completely heavily shielded as it MADE for taking on capital ship fleets. People have said that the tracking on the deathstars main super laser is crappy. Not true as it's huge computers can pinpoint ships from thousands of kilometers away.
The Deathstar version 2 (the one in orbit around Sanctuary moon) had mass grav field generators so could stop all ships from jumping in close to it or escaping. (These had not yet been fitted when it was destroyed.)
It's a complete no brainer match. Just look at the weapons compliment of the first deathstar.
* Concave Dish Composite Beam Superlaser (1) o Range: 47,060,000 kilometers * Taim & Bak D6 turbolaser batteries (5,000) * Taim & Bak XX-9 heavy turbolasers (5,000) * SFS L-s 4.9 laser cannons (2,500) * Borstel MS-1 ion cannons (2,500) * Phylon tractor beam generators (768) * Charged-particle blasters[3] * Magnetic railguns[3] * Proton torpedo banks[3]
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.05.01 21:46:00 -
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You do realize that a deathstar would be a mix-and-match between a dreadnought and a titan (one gun slot, perma-siege-mode, insane shot damage at extreme ranges... basically a focused DDD), a mothership (can act as both a shipyard and a carrier) and last but not least a mobile station (it's so big that fiting actual station services on it wouldn't be all that far-fetched).
Basically, if "Death Stars" would exist in EVE, they'd be mobile stations with insane (but very low accuracy) firepower, on top of massive drone control capacity.
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Shakuul
Caldari Extreme Addiction Atrum Tempestas Foedus
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Posted - 2008.05.01 21:50:00 -
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Originally by: UGWidowmaker would be damn nice to see death stars ingame.. should be able to do the same stuff as the titan. just much bigger and its firepower would only harm titans.. but doing that damn well.. the regs should be like
titan 5, doomsday device 5, death star 3. ohh and all the usual nav skill at 5..
the price should be 20* Titans. but it should have a cargo at like 100 bs. fitted ones. and not able to do em packed.. it should have a corp hangar wich is able to carry ammo and whatever fuel for poses. size. 1000000.
u would need like 40 dreads to even have a chance at killing it.
Nothing in eve...not even all the ships combined, possibly including jove, could kill the death start. The power output of the death star's reactor (according to this guy is 10^25 watts at least...compared to the paltry 7.5*10^11 of a titan. It would take 10^13 titans to match the LOWER BOUND of the death star's reactor core power output.
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Benco97
Gallente Exchangable Properties
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Posted - 2008.05.01 21:52:00 -
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I think I've become invisible...
>.> <.<
nobody can hear me maybe they can't even see me I wonder, can someone see this? maybe i've forgotten how to type..
maybe I'm fading aw..
Originally by: Kirjava This man speaks the truth, when he farts we count the length in seconds and make squillions buying winning lottery tickets.
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Marcus TheMartin
Gallente Tuxedo.
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Posted - 2008.05.01 21:55:00 -
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Originally by: Faife ttl;dr.
has anyone mentioned you guys are nerds?
and what about batman vs a titan?
look at the brutor calling the kettle black
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Benjix
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Posted - 2008.05.01 21:58:00 -
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1 Titan would lose, but several and the Titans would win, if all else fails they could ram the Deathstar and blow it up.
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ZzZGilletteZzZ
Caldari ZzZDefZzZ
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Posted - 2008.05.01 22:14:00 -
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A Doomsday device would barely scratch the deathstar, a DD blast can barely penetrate several meters of armor, and the deathstar doesn't even need to use its superlaser to vapourise the titan it can use its thousands of heavy turbo laser batteries (which are each about the size of a XL dread laser)
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m3rb3aSt
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.05.01 22:16:00 -
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The deathstar for sure. Just the fact that due to the sheer size, we know its going to have like 95% resist to all and a couple trillion hp. Really, a DDD wouldn't even scratch it. If you DDD a pos, it does nothing. Now imagine something that is massively bigger, the size of a moon in eve. The DDD would feel like a tickle to it.
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Tarminic
Black Flame Industries
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Posted - 2008.05.01 22:17:00 -
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Originally by: ZzZGilletteZzZ A Doomsday device would barely scratch the deathstar, a DD blast can barely penetrate several meters of armor, and the deathstar doesn't even need to use its superlaser to vapourise the titan it can use its thousands of heavy turbo laser batteries (which are each about the size of a XL dread laser)
Keep in mind the surface area we're dealing with here. A battleship is absolutely minescule compared to the Death Star.
Could the Death Star absorb the amount of damage a DDD does to a battleship? Obviously, yes.
Could the Death Star survive that kind of firepower impacting across 20-30% of it's entire surface area? I'm not so sure. ---------------- Tarminic - 35 Million SP in Forum Warfare Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.81 (Updated 4/8) |
Code Chills
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Posted - 2008.05.01 22:21:00 -
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The deathstar usually in its fully operational state has shields that keep larger ships from aproaching.
Also you are missing that the DS not only has the Primary Weapon, but also a ****load of Close-Range Lasers, a whole bunch of Planetary Bombardmend Lasers and some Missiles. Along with several WINGS of small and medium sized ships safely inside until the DDD is wasted.
Titan going poof without even going to full alert.
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ZzZGilletteZzZ
Caldari ZzZDefZzZ
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Posted - 2008.05.01 22:31:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: ZzZGilletteZzZ A Doomsday device would barely scratch the deathstar, a DD blast can barely penetrate several meters of armor, and the deathstar doesn't even need to use its superlaser to vapourise the titan it can use its thousands of heavy turbo laser batteries (which are each about the size of a XL dread laser)
Keep in mind the surface area we're dealing with here. A battleship is absolutely minescule compared to the Death Star.
Could the Death Star absorb the amount of damage a DDD does to a battleship? Obviously, yes.
Could the Death Star survive that kind of firepower impacting across 20-30% of it's entire surface area? I'm not so sure.
Possibly but EVE carriers, dreads and titans have a much larger surface area footprint and they shrug off a DD blast with easy and the same applies to a POS shield, the deathstar is also spherical which is one of the strongest structural shapes possible, bathyspheres are an example and display strength much greater than the materials in their construction alone.
Also I believe the Executor impact proves the strength of the deathstar as that impact is probably has a comparable energy release to a DD blast.
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DubanFP
Caldari Four Rings Phalanx Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.01 22:32:00 -
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The ships in EVE have developed shields that can redistribute the impact a collision with another object. Basically a crash with another ship would change it's inertia while doing minimal to no damage. However Star Wars ships, as well as the death star, take damage in an impact event. A nano-titan "funny thought" going 200-500m/s could probebly embed itself pretty deeply in the death star.
Activate the Doomsday blast from 10-20 KM inside the death star and said death star would take almost the entirety of the blast from within. Normally ships in EVE take only a small fraction of a DD blast, the death star would take almost all of it. The Deathstar itself might survive the direct blast but it would probebly be disabled and may even take years to reactivate. Of course it might also jsut go boom taking the titan with it. Would be interesting to see. _______________
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Tippia
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.05.01 22:38:00 -
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Originally by: DubanFP The ships in EVE have developed shields that can redistribute the impact a collision with another object. Basically a crash with another ship would change it's inertia while doing minimal to no damage. However Star Wars ships, as well as the death star, take damage in an impact event. A nano-titan "funny thought" going 200-500m/s could probebly embed itself pretty deeply in the death star.
On the other hand, wouldn't a Death Star show up as a "large collidable structure" on your overview - meaning the Titan would just bounce off?
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DubanFP
Caldari Four Rings Phalanx Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.01 22:43:00 -
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Edited by: DubanFP on 01/05/2008 22:43:24
Originally by: Tippia On the other hand, wouldn't a Death Star show up as a "large collidable structure" on your overview - meaning the Titan would just bounce off?
The titan would be slowed down and eventually come to a stop from the impact with the death star, yes. But without any way to redistribute the impact with a titan the death star would be penetrated quite a few KM deep.
Think of it like a bullet. When a bullet fires an equal amount of energy goes to the holder of the gun as to the object being shot. The gun spreads impact and because of it the shooter can take it, the bullet "the titan"'s force would be concentrated on a small area at any one point in time. The result is penetration of the target. _______________
ReiAyanami> We bring you tidings of AARRRRRRRRR |
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Narffy
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.05.01 22:47:00 -
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What effect would the Titan's DD have on the crew of the Death Star? Kill everyone on the Death Star and the Titan wins.
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ZzZGilletteZzZ
Caldari ZzZDefZzZ
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Posted - 2008.05.01 22:49:00 -
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Edited by: ZzZGilletteZzZ on 01/05/2008 22:52:45
Originally by: DubanFP The ships in EVE have developed shields that can redistribute the impact a collision with another object. Basically a crash with another ship would change it's inertia while doing minimal to no damage. However Star Wars ships, as well as the death star, take damage in an impact event. A nano-titan "funny thought" going 200-500m/s could probebly embed itself pretty deeply in the death star.
Activate the Doomsday blast from 10-20 KM inside the death star and said death star would take almost the entirety of the blast from within. Normally ships in EVE take only a small fraction of a DD blast, the death star would take almost all of it. The Deathstar itself might survive the direct blast but it would probably be disabled and may even take years to reactivate. Of course it might also just go boom taking the titan with it. Would be interesting to see.
The SSD Executor is of comparable mass and size to a titan and its reactor detonation probably exceeded the energy output of a DD blast and apart from a little shaking it did not critically damage the deathstar.
A titan compared to other sci fi isn't that powerful, it probably couldn't even handle a star destroyer and many other ships like B5s Omega class destroyer would splat a titan like a bug.
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Dirk Magnum
Spearhead Endeavors
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Posted - 2008.05.01 22:50:00 -
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Originally by: Narffy What effect would the Titan's DD have on the crew of the Death Star? Kill everyone on the Death Star and the Titan wins.
If the DDD doesn't kill everyone aboard the Eve ships that can tank the blast, I don't see why it'd kill everyone on the Death Star. A neutron-burst DDD might do the trick but there is no such item.
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David Flavius
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.05.01 23:11:00 -
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LoL i was going to suggest that they make a death star like ship for EVE...
well id say the Death star would win.... has long has its one on one, it would attack the titian with all of its smaller weps untill it can bring is superlaser to bear then BAM!\
has for death star on eve: Mobile station basically + huge drone and firepower
ok thats my two cents
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Benco97
Gallente Exchangable Properties
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Posted - 2008.05.01 23:18:00 -
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Edited by: Benco97 on 01/05/2008 23:19:10 Ok.. look at it this way..
The Deathstar wasn't a privately owned ship was it? it was a whole empire's most awesome creation, As such it isn't fair to compare the Deathstar to one of our Titans. However... we DO have equivalent vessels, the empires have their own titans which are huge in comparison with our privately owned titans. They are of technology not allowed to be used by us plebs and would certainly at least worry the Deathstar.
I know they are both called Titans but there is a slight difference between a bullet-train and Stephenson's Rocket.
So any comparison here should be between Empire vessels, not our watered-down versions.
Originally by: Kirjava This man speaks the truth, when he farts we count the length in seconds and make squillions buying winning lottery tickets.
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Jacob Mei
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Posted - 2008.05.01 23:20:00 -
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Titan hands down. All it would have to do is stay on the death stars rear side or in the southern hemesphere which should be easy enough. Titan could just blast the death star at its leasure with its DDD and should the death star get into a position that it could fire the titan could just cyno away then come back a moment later.
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Sanzorz
Amarr EVEfan.dk
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Posted - 2008.05.01 23:53:00 -
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Titan with ECM or Sensor Dampener tbh. Titan could just keep blasting on it for ages until the DS is a rubble :P
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Sloppy Podfarts
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Posted - 2008.05.01 23:54:00 -
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The Argo
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Megan Maynard
Minmatar Out of Order
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Posted - 2008.05.02 02:38:00 -
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Not to rain on anyone's parade here. Plus I am a HUGE starwars nerd.
But everyone is assuming the Death star would win because it can blow up planets.
We have no clue what a titan DD would do to a planet do we??????????? |
Diek Ran
Amarr Autonums
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Posted - 2008.05.02 02:42:00 -
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Difference as follows:
Death Star demonstrates that the planet can be destroyed.
Titan pwns the planet. |
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