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ScottyDosn'tKnow
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Posted - 2008.06.16 02:39:00 -
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Just getting bored and want to cause some trouble. What would a good suggestion of a caldari ship I can go solo in?
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Madam Kaktar
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Posted - 2008.06.16 02:42:00 -
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-Caldari -pvp -solo -success
Pick three.
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ScottyDosn'tKnow
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Posted - 2008.06.16 02:43:00 -
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Troll...anyone serious?
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.06.16 02:49:00 -
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apparently Scotty doesn't know
torp raven probably your best bet.
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AstroPhobic
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Posted - 2008.06.16 02:51:00 -
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Nanocerb.
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Deimus
CAD Inc. Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.06.16 02:52:00 -
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Originally by: Madam Kaktar -Caldari -pvp -solo -success
Pick three.
QFT
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PsychoBones
Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.16 03:25:00 -
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Originally by: Madam Kaktar -Caldari -pvp -solo -success
Pick three.
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cal nereus
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.06.16 03:34:00 -
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Edited by: cal nereus on 16/06/2008 03:36:46
Well, I'll go down a list of Caldari ships, and we'll see what we can do.
Rokh, Raven, Scorpion - Solo PvP in any battleship is pretty silly in my humble opinion, so I won't even try to go there. However, they can be very useful in small gangs. The torp Raven does a lot of damage, and the Rokh makes an excellent sniper. Just don't fly them alone where anybody can warp in and kill 'em.
Cerberus - Caldari's tier 2 Heavy Assault Ship (based on price tag), and a fine missile boat with a specialty for ranged combat. It can be fit adequately for gang PvP and gate-camping, but for solo work it may fall short. Here's an attempt at making a solo Cerberus and an attempt at making a cloaked nano Cerberus. There's more, but I think the point has been made with these.
Eagle - Caldari's tier 1 Heavy Assault Ship (based on price tag), and an absolutely beautiful railgun-boat. Well, actually, it looks ugly, but its potential is not. It fits well for sniping, although I know some use blasters on it instead. Here's an SHC thread discussing the Eagle. The simple truth is that you can't solo PvP without tackle, and the Eagle can't play to its strengths when it is forced to tackle its target.
Crow - This is the closest to your desired answer, but it still falls short. The Caldari's combat-oriented interceptor, the Crow, has both great speed and decent firepower in one package. Here is a 1v1 Crow that might get a few nice ganks. However, if it gets webbed, the Crow is pretty much screwed. As a result, I don't think it can compete with the tech-2 cruisers of the other races.
Raptor - For tackling purposes, it's identical to the Crow. Maybe even better with the increased warp disruptor range. So it's very helpful in gang PvP. However, I've never seen it work solo.
Rook - Caldari's Combat Recon Ship. It's a great ECM-boat, and it can be a pain in the neck to fight against in gang PvP. Here's an attempt at making a Solo Rook. However, it is more popular to simply use a Rook/HAC duo instead. You can use the Rook more efficiently and the HAC can deal more DPS.
Falcon - Caldari's Force Recon Ship: as the Raptor is to the Crow, so the Falcon is to the Rook. It's great for e-war support in gangs and fleets, but I've never heard of it working solo.
Flycatcher - Caldari's interdictor, and like all interdictors, the Flycatcher is a "destroyer-sized vessels built to fill a single important tactical niche: he breaching of enemy warp tunnels." It exists to drop a bubble in 0.0. You can use it elsewhere, but aside from the Sabre, I think interdictors are better off dropping their bubbles, cloaking up, and hiding until the fighting is over.
Outside of these ships, you've also got tech-1 cruisers (like the Caracal) and frigates (like the Kestrel), cheaply fitted, that can work okay in a fast roaming gang with minimal isk losses. I don't expect any of them to function solo unless they find a significantly weaker and unprepared target to gank.
To make a long story short, no, the Caldari don't have a good solo ship. They have plenty of good ships, and some are used solo, but good ships for solo work are best found through cross-training into Minmatar. --- Earning Isk Basic Skills
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Mort Salazar
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Posted - 2008.06.16 03:46:00 -
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Originally by: PsychoBones
Originally by: Madam Kaktar -Caldari -pvp -solo -success
Pick three.
Hi my name is mort and I am caldari. The above is not a troll. I hate sheild tanks sometimes.
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Bloody Rabbit
Jita Miners
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Posted - 2008.06.16 04:10:00 -
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The best solo PvP Caldari ship is the Chimera or Wyvern. Other than that Caldari will need support for PvP.
But also the Leviathan could do solo PvP, just sucks that your main weapon can only be fired once per hour.
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DubanFP
Four Rings Souls of Vengeance
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Posted - 2008.06.16 04:18:00 -
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Edited by: DubanFP on 16/06/2008 04:19:55
Originally by: Madam Kaktar -Caldari -pvp -solo -success
Pick three.
I loled, it's really true. He's not flaming Caldari can PVP sucessfully in a group.
You can PVP solo in a different race sucessfully, although solo is hard.
You can PVP solo in a caldari ship, and get killed repeatedly.
but you just can't really solo in a caldari ship. Their ships are gang ships and PVE ships. _______________
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Laechyd Eldgorn
Karjala Inc.
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Posted - 2008.06.16 04:31:00 -
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(nano)Cerberus, onyx, blackbird, scorpion, rook, crow, rattlesnake. Other than that doesn't do well without someone else tackling for you or provide dps. I guess. Unless I forgot some ship.
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Eardianm
Duty.
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Posted - 2008.06.16 04:33:00 -
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HAM Drake works just fine. Nano-cerb too. Even a kessie can do some surprise-buttsex pvp for a frig, although a Crow would be much safer.
Might be a touch harder in Caldari, but not impossible. Don't listen to the morons quoting 3 year old slogans. --------------
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Corwain
DIE WITH HONOUR
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Posted - 2008.06.16 05:26:00 -
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Try a HAM drake. Pretty cheap what with insurance and pretty powerful.
7x HAM II w/ CN Terror 1x Offline remote rep or smartie or something, maybe small nos or neut if you gotta lotta fitting skills. It's a tight fit. 1x MWD II, Web, Point, 2x LSE II, 1x Invuln II 2x BCU II, DC II, RCU 2x Anti-EM screens, 1x Anti-Thermal screen
5x Hobgoblin IIs or Hornet ECM drones. You can nearly get 600dps with a 72k effective HP buffer and still have a 131dps tank at peak recharge. This is on a tank designed simply to be a buffer mind you, but it's nice to know that you won't die to a lone frig if you get caught with your pants down like armor buffer tanks.
I'd say this fit is just as viable as a plate buffer brutix, it just does 100-200 less dps but with a much larger hp buffer and hp/s resulting in more damage done before you pop. In a Brutix vs Drake fight with a properly setup drake my moneys on the drake, and I kill Drakes with Gallente BCs all the time.
Carry a small amount of Terror Javs with ya, you can get up to 83km with em without rigs. Still 400-500dps, show me another close range fitted BC that can claim that.
And if you think the Raven can't solo PvP go check out that Final Flash vid, it's pretty nice.
Blaster-Rokhs aren't bad either, just expensive.
Caldari recons aren't really any good solo.
The Moa isn't too bad since the extra turret, still probly outclassed by the Thorax and Rupture though. Blackbird isn't a good solo ship, Osprey is for POS repping and the Caracal can't really seem to tank or do damage and can't really be nanoed without Polys due to the high base mass and only 2 lows. Obviously Scorp is a support ship as well. Dunno much about performance of the frigate class ships.
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DubanFP
Four Rings Souls of Vengeance
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Posted - 2008.06.16 05:32:00 -
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Originally by: Corwain Carry a small amount of Terror Javs with ya, you can get up to 83km with em without rigs. Still 400-500dps, show me another close range fitted BC that can claim that.
Tackle at 83km. Then we'll talk. _______________
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SheriffFruitfly
Induseng Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.06.16 05:42:00 -
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Originally by: cal nereus Edited by: cal nereus on 16/06/2008 03:36:46Well, I'll go down a list of Caldari ships, and we'll see what we can do.
Drake & Nighthawk thoughts?
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cal nereus
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.06.16 06:09:00 -
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Well, the Drake has a huge amount of potential for tanking, and since it's a battlecruiser, it can generate enough gank to kill a lot of stuff. For a better idea of DPS/range, just look at Corwain's HAM Drake. It's nice... if it can get somebody else to do the tackling, in which case it isn't a solo PvP ship at all. There's nothing wrong with that in most PvP situations, though.
In my opinion, Caldari are good for PvP in general. You can fly Caldari, go into PvP, and be successful. I have fun flying Caldari ships, and I have no complaints in gang/fleet combat. It's when a Caldari ship does it alone that it gets tricky. To be an effective solo ship, the ship in question needs to fit tackle mods and somehow prevent a target from escaping while still dealing good damage and surviving the encounter. --- Earning Isk Basic Skills
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Aadi Grox
Minmatar Mafia
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Posted - 2008.06.16 07:08:00 -
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Edited by: Aadi Grox on 16/06/2008 07:09:20 noobs itt
nanocerb onyx drake torp raven nanocaracal rokh
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Hugh Ruka
Exploratio et Industria Morispatia
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Posted - 2008.06.16 07:11:00 -
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shuttle --- SIG --- CSM: your support is needed ! |
Gypsio III
Bambooule
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Posted - 2008.06.16 08:02:00 -
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Originally by: Madam Kaktar -Caldari -pvp -solo -success -HAM Drake
Pick five.
Fixed.
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Stork DK
Synthetic Frontiers
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Posted - 2008.06.16 08:05:00 -
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Caracal is great for solo pvp ___________
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Damned Force
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.06.16 08:27:00 -
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Originally by: Corwain Try a HAM drake. Pretty cheap what with insurance and pretty powerful.
7x HAM II w/ CN Terror 1x Offline remote rep or smartie or something, maybe small nos or neut if you gotta lotta fitting skills. It's a tight fit. 1x MWD II, Web, Point, 2x LSE II, 1x Invuln II 2x BCU II, DC II, RCU 2x Anti-EM screens, 1x Anti-Thermal screen
5x Hobgoblin IIs or Hornet ECM drones. You can nearly get 600dps with a 72k effective HP buffer and still have a 131dps tank at peak recharge. This is on a tank designed simply to be a buffer mind you, but it's nice to know that you won't die to a lone frig if you get caught with your pants down like armor buffer tanks.
I'd say this fit is just as viable as a plate buffer brutix, it just does 100-200 less dps but with a much larger hp buffer and hp/s resulting in more damage done before you pop. In a Brutix vs Drake fight with a properly setup drake my moneys on the drake, and I kill Drakes with Gallente BCs all the time.
Carry a small amount of Terror Javs with ya, you can get up to 83km with em without rigs. Still 400-500dps, show me another close range fitted BC that can claim that.
And if you think the Raven can't solo PvP go check out that Final Flash vid, it's pretty nice.
Blaster-Rokhs aren't bad either, just expensive.
Caldari recons aren't really any good solo.
The Moa isn't too bad since the extra turret, still probly outclassed by the Thorax and Rupture though. Blackbird isn't a good solo ship, Osprey is for POS repping and the Caracal can't really seem to tank or do damage and can't really be nanoed without Polys due to the high base mass and only 2 lows. Obviously Scorp is a support ship as well. Dunno much about performance of the frigate class ships.
Just a little bit correction......
1. u better with extender rigs, give u a bigger overall buffer 2. this fitting is very far from 600 dps, even with the 5 hobgoblin 2's and max skills without implants is far less than 600dps
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Aadi Grox
Minmatar Mafia
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Posted - 2008.06.16 08:44:00 -
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Originally by: Gypsio III
Fixed.
BUT THE EVE FORUMS SAY THAT CALDARI CAN'T SOLO PVP AND THAT THE ONLY DRAKE FIT IS MAX TANK
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Gypsio III
Bambooule
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Posted - 2008.06.16 08:49:00 -
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Edited by: Gypsio III on 16/06/2008 08:53:23
Originally by: Aadi Grox
Originally by: Gypsio III
Fixed.
BUT THE EVE FORUMS SAY THAT CALDARI CAN'T SOLO PVP AND THAT THE ONLY DRAKE FIT IS MAX TANK
They are right. Remember, fitting tackle on a Drake automatically activates its self-destruct sequence, and it is quite impossible for a Drake to deal 650 DPS. Hence, if you see a Drake, fly your Vaga right up to the side of it at 0 km and wait for the explosion.
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LtCol Killgore
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Posted - 2008.06.16 10:18:00 -
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onyx
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Lea Re
Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2008.06.16 10:46:00 -
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some good ideas here... but the ones that i use:
cn osprey crow onyx cerb rook
flying caldari ships solo isn't impossible but takes time, patience and a bit of experience
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Dheorl
The Scope
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Posted - 2008.06.16 10:54:00 -
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Solo PvP in caldari is perfectly doable.
Merlin and Harpy are both great little ships, crow can take down a surprising amount even though it does have puny dps.
When it comes to cruisers it really is just a case of nanoing what you can imo so that means nano navy caracal, navy osprey and cerb.
I've heard people have sucess with a blaster ferox although I'm doubtful about that one, haven't ever personally tried it. Drake can make an awsome solo boat as stated above.
I hear the blaster rokh can be great although again I have no experience with this.
If you really want to push it soloing in a blackbird honestly isn't as hard as it sounds, make sure you use the turret hardpoints rather than missiles though because you're gona need all the dps you can get. I suppose with a similar setup the rook would be viable, well probably better although again I have never tried it.
Basically if you look around and maybe use a bit of artistic license when it comes to fitting caldari can make pretty decent solo PvP boats.
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Lt Angus
Wicked Crew
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Posted - 2008.06.16 11:01:00 -
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Drake, just because you can make it tank 1 billion DPS doesnt mean you should, Crow, wouldnt bother till u max out the damage skills, its needs all the dps it can get Caracal, fun on the cheap Nano cerb, hard work but doable Rook, and theres a few more The reason people tend to have trouble solo'ing as caldari is because they try and do it in fleet setups
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Ordon Gundar
Kingfisher Industries
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Posted - 2008.06.16 11:30:00 -
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Caldari are good at frigate level only. If you want cheap solo fun (although you may lose the odd ship), you can get under the guns of a cruiser or BC if you fly a speed-tanked Kestrel. Just get Overdrives, high Nav skills, MWD or at least AB to close the distance, and then slam missiles into your target while speed orbiting around it so that it cant track you.
The key is getting close enough initially so that you dont get popped on the approach. As soon as you get under the guns, its a matter of time (and ammo!)
Fly fast..Rats Die..Buy Low..Sell High- Ordon Gundar, CEO of Gundars Independent Traders - Space (G.I.T.S) |
Lars Lodar
Induseng Enterprises R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.06.16 11:33:00 -
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You can solo in a HAM Drake pretty effectively. I have no issues taking on any BC and this ship does wonders as a heavy tackle for a BS. Me and my raven buddy melted 3 BCs without barely a scratch. 85,000 EHP and over 500 consistent DPS will get your through just about any fair fight.
It's also great for baiting people. Remember, just about everyone underestimates the drake and never being called primary is a good thing.
HIGHS Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile [offline a salvager or something as a Heat dissipater]
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RIGS Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I
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Felix Dzerzhinsky
Wreckless Abandon Un-Natural Selection
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Posted - 2008.06.16 12:03:00 -
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just train Gallente and be done with it. . .srsly
I like some of my Caldari ships, but we are definatly gang/support in terms of strengths, if solo is what you are looking for, there are simply better races to choise. . .
Don't get me wrong, it can be done. But its not worth it. ----
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Vasq
Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.06.16 13:46:00 -
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Crow
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Derek Sigres
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Posted - 2008.06.16 14:44:00 -
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My vote goes with the HAM Drake. While it certainly performs better in a gang it is one of the few Caldari ships that can truly afford to sacrifice slots to tackle. Sure it doesn't tank GREAT but it certainly can field a fantastic buffer and it's fairly expendible. The fact that shield resist rigs are so cheap as to nearly be free doesn't hurt either.
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Stuart Price
Black Water.
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Posted - 2008.06.16 17:09:00 -
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Drake can do it. Crow can do it. Harpy can do it.
Other probably can as well. But not as easily (or often effectively) as others.
Running with a gang? Then Caldari is the way to go after the RR-battleships are sorted. The fact that the absolute most hated ship in the game is the Falcon speaks volumes (seems everyone and his mum can fly either a Falcon or a Rapier these days). "I got soul but I'm not a soldier" |
supr3m3justic3
ACE'S OVER 8'S The Kano Organisation
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Posted - 2008.06.16 18:28:00 -
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[Rokh, Unconventional Rokh ] Damage Control II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
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Anti-Explosive Pump I Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Anti-Kinetic Pump I
Hammerhead II x5
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Fzhal
AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.06.16 18:42:00 -
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To solo you need a few things.
Agility (To get out of dangerous situations quickly and escape gate camps. The Drake fails here. You need to be able to pick your battles or bug out quickly) DPS (Used to be easy with Caldari but the nano age has made missiles even less effective) Tackling meaning Webbing, Scrambling, And MWD (Caldari are disadvantaged for this because they are the only race that uses these for everything else. Without these 3 modules solo-ability is weak at best)
Optional Tank or Gimmick (By gimmick I mean something like ECM, Cap drain etc. You still need some tank for these to work.)
Solo Caldari isn't as easy because Solo PvP is very mid slot heavy, which takes away from the Caldari strengths. Also Caldari philosophy is a lot of range which dosen't allow for a scrambler.
Caldari are successful with others but fails to stand on its own.
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Gypsio III
Bambooule
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Posted - 2008.06.16 18:49:00 -
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Originally by: Fzhal To solo you need a few things.
Agility (To get out of dangerous situations quickly and escape gate camps. The Drake fails here. You need to be able to pick your battles or bug out quickly) DPS (Used to be easy with Caldari but the nano age has made missiles even less effective) Tackling meaning Webbing, Scrambling, And MWD (Caldari are disadvantaged for this because they are the only race that uses these for everything else. Without these 3 modules solo-ability is weak at best)
Optional Tank or Gimmick (By gimmick I mean something like ECM, Cap drain etc. You still need some tank for these to work.)
Solo Caldari isn't as easy because Solo PvP is very mid slot heavy, which takes away from the Caldari strengths. Also Caldari philosophy is a lot of range which dosen't allow for a scrambler.
Caldari are successful with others but fails to stand on its own.
Oh wow, I never realised this. How illuminating.
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Dheorl
The Scope
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Posted - 2008.06.16 18:55:00 -
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Originally by: Fzhal Agility (To get out of dangerous situations quickly and escape gate camps. The Drake fails here.
By this thinking all other BC and CS fails for solo PvP as well which is just crazy talk.
Also in referense to the 3 essential med slot thing, some ships only need 2 for various reasons, for instance I see no point really in putting a MWD on my lowsec blackbird, it would admitadly help me get more kills but would make my survivability worse.
Some of them can fit all 3 and still get a fine tank - merlin and harpy can easily be done with a single MSE, 3 meds on a drake can get you a mean buffer tank etc.
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Slanty McGarglefist
University of Caille
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Posted - 2008.06.16 19:09:00 -
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Ummmm the Ibis of course!
I can't believe nobody mentioned this awe-inspiring ship. __________________________________________________
Originally by: CCP Wrangler No
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Corwain
DIE WITH HONOUR
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Posted - 2008.06.16 22:45:00 -
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Edited by: Corwain on 16/06/2008 22:48:53
Originally by: Damned Force Just a little bit correction......
1. u better with extender rigs, give u a bigger overall buffer 2. this fitting is very far from 600 dps, even with the 5 hobgoblin 2's and max skills without implants is far less than 600dps
1. Dur, you wanna sell me some at 2mil apiece? OK then I'll stick to my resistance rigs. 2. I said nearly 600dps, the exact number without implants is 561, but with implants you most likely can hit 600. OK, looks like with 2 5% implants you get 609dps. -- Distortion| Distortion 2 Preview |
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Hannibal218
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Posted - 2008.06.16 22:59:00 -
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qoute:
Edit: Nanocerb is an excellent solo pvp ship. You can use heavies or hams, with heavies, you have more buffer
5x heavy IIs, whatever mwd, small injector, disruptor, LSE, whatever (I like a web) 3x ODI, 1x BCU 2x polycarbs
with Hams, drop the LSE.
end qoute.
my question : what did you mean by "small injector" ? i am not familiar with that medium slot module
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Billy Merc
ANZAC ALLIANCE Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.16 23:02:00 -
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onyx, cerb, eagle, crow, drake, falcon (no point flying rook now...falcon has same jam strength and can cloak)...
The only ships caldari has worth flying....
NONE...ie NOT A SINGLE ONE is a worthy solo ship...
Onyx: Mediocore damage...one nice tank...if u want to catch anything u need a web...which screws said tank Drake: Too slow, nice tank, mediocore damage...as per above, even more so because u need a web and a point...taking two mids from ya tank...nanofaggotry will outrun heavies.. (ham drakes are good damage but a BB/falcon/arazu/rook/kitsune/griffin is gunna perma jam it...and no fof's(hams have no fof) + jammed == death eventually) Eagle: ok dmg as a blaster platform...ok sorta tank...as above u need to nerf tank for tackle...or u can be @ +- 200km with 250 II's crow: Prob the only caldari ship u could solo in...but u will have to pick ya tagets carefully cerb: as per above...u need to nerf tank for tackle..good damage....but if u nano it...damage falls into the mediocore dept with the loss of BCU II's falcon:....well u can always jam them for chits and giggles...cause ya not killin much in a falcon im affraid..
The common element here is u need to take away your tank to catch things...if said things have teeth..your gorne..
I think of caldari ships more as complementry ships....they work best with friends..
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Billy Merc
ANZAC ALLIANCE Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.16 23:04:00 -
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Originally by: Hannibal218 qoute:
Edit: Nanocerb is an excellent solo pvp ship. You can use heavies or hams, with heavies, you have more buffer
5x heavy IIs, whatever mwd, small injector, disruptor, LSE, whatever (I like a web) 3x ODI, 1x BCU 2x polycarbs
with Hams, drop the LSE.
end qoute.
my question : what did you mean by "small injector" ? i am not familiar with that medium slot module
Cap injector...or cap booster...under engineering
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Hannibal218
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Posted - 2008.06.17 00:00:00 -
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everybody talks about soloing in pvp as if its some sort of a test
does anyone really solo in pvp? i mean even a 2005 char soloing is dead meat if two 2007 chars attack it what is so special about soloing? its much safer to move in gangs of 3-4 and even that is usually not enough to break crazy gate camps of 15 battleships
so what is so friggin important in soloing? when you solo, you pretty much run away from everything anyways coz any two ships are stronger than you.
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Chimay
Next Era Dawn
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Posted - 2008.06.17 00:02:00 -
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Edited by: Chimay on 17/06/2008 00:14:49 Edited by: Chimay on 17/06/2008 00:14:02
Originally by: ScottyDosn'tKnow Just getting bored and want to cause some trouble. What would a good suggestion of a caldari ship I can go solo in?
Crow is decent for killing barges and cruisers. Drake isnÆt too bad IÆve had some solo success with them. IÆve seen you around and lolÆd nice name. My suggestion to you is pick another race for solo PVP. I started caldari and learned the hard way itÆs hard to make it work. I went with Gall ships. Now I refuse to skill anything Caldari related. As for making isk Gall ships do well with missions as well with the use of drones.
I know thatÆs the answer you really want to hear since youÆve most likely focused your skills on Caldari ships, but I wish someone had told me this when I first started.
If you want to see how the Drake works hereÆs one of my videos which I use mostly used Caldari ships in solo PVP http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=748712
I highly recommend if your just starting out to go with another race, unless you will be mainly flying in gangs.
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Stuart Price
Black Water.
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Posted - 2008.06.17 01:15:00 -
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Took out a CNR. Under gate guns. With a randomly passing Brutix trying to save him. In a Drake.
In the end it wasn't purely solo since the idiot CNR pilot decided to engage the Enyo pilot I had along to watch the lolz. Ultimately though I had plenty in reserve and could easily have done it solo.
So the guy was an idiot and his ship was fitted with mostly junk, so what? I didn't know that when I engaged.
A few years back I came very, very close to taking out a mega, a malediction and an ares solo. In a Harpy (!). The mega hit structure at the same time I did (both inties having long ceased to be an issue) and he just had so much more of it.
Mangled plenty of cruisers and frigs with a Crow. Pinned a mega in place with a Raptor even - since he was buffered he was going to die eventually (cue a crapton of corpmates rushing to get on the kill :p) and he couldn't kill me (drones went pop first).
Engaged a dual-rep Hype solo under gate guns with a Rokh. He was faster and went to a belt. Where I finished him off.
The ships are plenty capable if you know what you're doing, play to your strengths and have balls of steel. Their are more capable ships, certainly. I prefer Caldari for gangwork and Amarr for solo (or Gallente, can't fly Matari) but to say that Caldari ships can't solo simply isn't true. "I got soul but I'm not a soldier" |
Pudgy McFudge
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Posted - 2008.06.17 03:22:00 -
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You can get plenty of caldari ships to solo pvp. it's just a matter of how much money you want to spend. *cough* navy invul *cough* ________________________________________________________________
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Eardianm
Duty.
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Posted - 2008.06.17 03:26:00 -
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Originally by: Billy Merc onyx, cerb, eagle, crow, drake, falcon (no point flying rook now...falcon has same jam strength and can cloak)...
The only ships caldari has worth flying....
NONE...ie NOT A SINGLE ONE is a worthy solo ship...
Onyx: Mediocore damage...one nice tank...if u want to catch anything u need a web...which screws said tank Drake: Too slow, nice tank, mediocore damage...as per above, even more so because u need a web and a point...taking two mids from ya tank...nanofaggotry will outrun heavies.. (ham drakes are good damage but a BB/falcon/arazu/rook/kitsune/griffin is gunna perma jam it...and no fof's(hams have no fof) + jammed == death eventually) Eagle: ok dmg as a blaster platform...ok sorta tank...as above u need to nerf tank for tackle...or u can be @ +- 200km with 250 II's crow: Prob the only caldari ship u could solo in...but u will have to pick ya tagets carefully cerb: as per above...u need to nerf tank for tackle..good damage....but if u nano it...damage falls into the mediocore dept with the loss of BCU II's falcon:....well u can always jam them for chits and giggles...cause ya not killin much in a falcon im affraid..
The common element here is u need to take away your tank to catch things...if said things have teeth..your gorne..
I think of caldari ships more as complementry ships....they work best with friends..
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181st Legion The Crimson Federation
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Posted - 2008.06.17 03:36:00 -
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Ka Jolo
Ministry of Destruction Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.17 07:05:00 -
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Most of the above is correct, it's just that the writers have different premises.
Compared with other races, Caldari ships are not good choices for solo PvP. But this is a relative judgment, not an absolute one. The truth is, PvP success is heavily dependent on the RL skills of the pilot. An experienced, competent pilot of a Caldari vessel will often beat an incompetent pilot of a Minmatar or Gallente or Amarr ship renowned for its solo PvP characteristics.
Some of the RL skills required for successful PvP in any ship: directional scanner, knowledge of other ships' capabilities, knowing the strengths and weaknesses of your fitting, being able to pick your fights so your strengths make the fight while you are never engaged by anything able to exploit your weakness, being able to assess your opponent from his employment history, understanding flight dynamics, etc. etc. etc. Sadly, for many "PvP experience" is in the form of fleet warfare (i.e. blobs), where the rules are different.
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Cautet
Precision Engineering Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.06.17 08:46:00 -
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Navy Osprey looks like it has real potential as a solo boat.
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kessah
Blood Blind
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Posted - 2008.06.17 09:14:00 -
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Ravens pretty good solo imho. As is the Scorpion.
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Flashh Gorden
Repo Industries R.E.P.O.
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Posted - 2008.06.17 12:58:00 -
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Onyx I have found to be far and away the best Caldari ship so far for out of gang pvp work.
At level 4 you have a 28k scram that fits in a high slot! You can fit a MWD and WEB and still have enough mid slots for a half decent tank. There is not many caldari ships that you really want to be getting into web range of an oppenent but this is one of them.
Yes the damage is not fantastic and yes if your really into your solo pvp you wont be flying caldari ships but that is not what the post is about.
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Lea Re
Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2008.06.17 13:43:00 -
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Originally by: Billy Merc onyx, cerb, eagle, crow, drake, falcon (no point flying rook now...falcon has same jam strength and can cloak)...
The only ships caldari has worth flying....
NONE...ie NOT A SINGLE ONE is a worthy solo ship...
Onyx: Mediocore damage...one nice tank...if u want to catch anything u need a web...which screws said tank Drake: Too slow, nice tank, mediocore damage...as per above, even more so because u need a web and a point...taking two mids from ya tank...nanofaggotry will outrun heavies.. (ham drakes are good damage but a BB/falcon/arazu/rook/kitsune/griffin is gunna perma jam it...and no fof's(hams have no fof) + jammed == death eventually) Eagle: ok dmg as a blaster platform...ok sorta tank...as above u need to nerf tank for tackle...or u can be @ +- 200km with 250 II's crow: Prob the only caldari ship u could solo in...but u will have to pick ya tagets carefully cerb: as per above...u need to nerf tank for tackle..good damage....but if u nano it...damage falls into the mediocore dept with the loss of BCU II's falcon:....well u can always jam them for chits and giggles...cause ya not killin much in a falcon im affraid..
The common element here is u need to take away your tank to catch things...if said things have teeth..your gorne..
I think of caldari ships more as complementry ships....they work best with friends..
i would suggest flying some of them before actually posting
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ScottyDosn'tKnow
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Posted - 2008.06.17 18:08:00 -
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Thanks for all the posts. I really appreciate the ones that actually stuck to the topic and didn't tell me to fly galante as that was not the point of this thread. Feel free to continue posing to this thread as I'm sure there are more good ideas out there. Hopefully I'll be popping someone soon :P
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Commander Shag
No Trademark The OSS
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Posted - 2008.06.17 18:35:00 -
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Your best bet is the HAM Drake that Lars posted IMO, it's the exact same setup I use and have been quite successful with it. I'm too cheap to use extender rigs on a BC, so generally I use resist rigs and save the extenders for more expensive ships.
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Kurt Gergard
Federal European Industry Science and Research
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Posted - 2008.06.17 18:44:00 -
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Rokh is a good caldari solo pvp ship but i won't give you a set up took me too long to patch it up :D
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FlameGlow
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.06.18 10:36:00 -
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Originally by: Lars Lodar It's also great for baiting people. Remember, just about everyone underestimates the drake and never being called primary is a good thing.
Gallente FCs in factional warfare primary drakes all the time
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Cpt Branko
Surge. NIght's Dawn
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Posted - 2008.06.18 12:29:00 -
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Edited by: Cpt Branko on 18/06/2008 12:34:46
Originally by: Damned Force
Just a little bit correction......
1. u better with extender rigs, give u a bigger overall buffer
It's more expensive unfortunately ;( Resist rigs are way cheaper although (significantly, true) inferior. Still, a 35-40M loss cost BC > 80+M loss cost BC, for soloing, given the extender fit gives you like 15% extra eff HP.
Originally by: Damned Force
2. this fitting is very far from 600 dps, even with the 5 hobgoblin 2's and max skills without implants is far less than 600dps
It's quite close. Use the cheap implants.
Then again, I do have a stock of DG terror HAMs in my ammo hangar
I'd personally prefer a 1x LSE, 2x invuln fit with three BCUs just for more DPS, but it requires mad fitting skills (I think you *need* AWU V+shield upgrades V and heavy named stuff).
After I'm done with a few skills (brushing up my BS skills), I'm training HAMs to V (will boost my cane's damage output) so I'll give it a spin. Just to show people I can gank, buffertank and tackle in a Caldari ship.
It's the only BC I cannot imagine soloing in a Hurricane assuming equally specialized pilots, nomatter what I do or how I fit (barring slaved faction trimarked fits).
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Crellion
Art of War Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2008.06.18 15:03:00 -
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The only viable solo set ups with tech II mods and cheap rigs and true tackle gank and tank ability is the Onyx.
Crow fails post tanking buff and nanofagotry and Cerb, Eagle etc were always a coupld of mids sort for solo and still are. Raven with tackle gear is ludicrous so solo another BS.
So again: answer is ONYX
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BLOOD THIRSTY
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.06.18 15:18:00 -
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DHB WildCat's CNR
this was / is the best solo caldari ship in the game. Although its set-up is rather unorthodox.
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Resamo
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Posted - 2008.06.18 15:21:00 -
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If you can go back in time before missiles were tweaked and signature radius and speed had no effect the crow was alot of fun, only thing it had problems with was other ceptors but webing them once meant all the lights you had in the air all hit and other ceptor went boom.
If we can go even farther back in time the Cruise missile kestral was alot of fun, i did solo in it but not sure i would clasify it as a solo ship as it worked best in groups.
As for right now... the only one i solo is my manticore! go manticore, as i can easily pick my targets and move around solo. So my vote is the manticore (but there are better SB's out there).
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Gypsio III
Bambooule
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Posted - 2008.06.18 15:32:00 -
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Onyx is viable, but HAM Drake beats it in every area.
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.06.18 16:52:00 -
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Originally by: Gypsio III Onyx is viable, but HAM Drake beats it in every area.
Well, at 28km point is nice :). And it's black.
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Number 17
COLD-Wing The Fourth District
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Posted - 2008.06.19 11:41:00 -
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Ive succesfully flow the following ships solo
caracal (best T1 cruiser around) Crow cerberus (not nanoed, with full takle gear) Onyx (RAWR)
I have seen the following being deployed as solo ships torp raven ham drake
They can all take down their racial counterparts on a 1vs1.
The fact that caldari takes a little of tactics and strategy is something all you whining "caldari cant pvp" cannot deal with.
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Esk Esme
RuffRyders
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Posted - 2008.06.20 19:39:00 -
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give the Rook a drone bay to hold 5 x med drones like all other race hac / recons then ull have a cool solo pvp caldari ship
the inty's / AF are ok also just pick what u attack the cerb can b dangaras also but without med t2 drone's get's chewd up by other hac's such as ishtar /vaga
caldar comand ships well crap compard to other race for pvp nighthawk way overpriced nice tank but crap dps and speed plex ship pve
eagle nice sniper for poping smaller ships solo in number's can deal nice dps manticore 1 my old fav's avent flown since damp nurf nice little ship for poping inty's / hauler's and such at your leasure but not easy kills so u av a fight on your hands good fun
just my 2 cent's yea my english sux sue me
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Dheorl
The Scope
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Posted - 2008.06.20 21:01:00 -
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Originally by: Esk Esme give the Rook a drone bay to hold 5 x med drones like all other race hac / recons then ull have a cool solo pvp caldari ship
I'm sorry, what? AFAIK the only HAC/recons that can do this is the deimos, ishtar, curse and pilgrim, 3 of which are deidicated drone boats.
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Detriment
A.I.M.
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Posted - 2008.06.22 01:06:00 -
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Need to throw some assumptions in there.Op Assuming: Class-mismatch ganking only....(e.g. everything you are shooting is smaller) Otherwise, this is a pointless thread.
Beagle or Onyx. Everthing else is utterly useless solo.
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Artemis Rose
Eleckrostatik
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Posted - 2008.06.22 01:12:00 -
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For solo I've flown:
Crow HAM Drake (w/ shield buffer) Blaster Harpy (very slow though I missed a lot of targets in this one)
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