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Akai Kvaesir
0ffice of Naval Intelligence
20
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Posted - 2012.03.28 05:44:00 -
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So this whole flamewar over MittaniGate can go one of two ways.
Either the causehoars will cry so loudly that CCP and Sony's relationship may be damaged, EVE will suffer, and DUST will be a flop; OR, we use the upswing of anti-Goon fervor to generate legitimate and engaging In-Game RP, create an awesome PR moment for CCP, and show DUST players why EVE is the champion of bad***ery and emergent gameplay.
In the spirit of "EVE is Real," I say we take the hate into space, and take the fight from the forums to the Goons themselves. So what if they have the single largest armada in EVE, that just makes the achievement all the more worth it. Britain had the world's greatest army and navy, and yet a ragtag bunch of colonists kicked the tea and crumpets outta 'em. Maybe New Eden could take a few lessons from that.
So join me. Join the Anti-Swarm. From many, one; one goal, many approaches. Let the fight begin!
[Also, screw off all y'all RP haters, especially you goonie RP haters, this is the best reason for FW I've ever seen in a game] |
RougeOperator
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
378
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Posted - 2012.03.28 05:45:00 -
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Akai Kvaesir wrote:So this whole flamewar over MittaniGate can go one of two ways.
Either the causehoars will cry so loudly that CCP and Sony's relationship may be damaged, EVE will suffer, and DUST will be a flop; OR, we use the upswing of anti-Goon fervor to generate legitimate and engaging In-Game RP, create an awesome PR moment for CCP, and show DUST players why EVE is the champion of bad***ery and emergent gameplay.
In the spirit of "EVE is Real," I say we take the hate into space, and take the fight from the forums to the Goons themselves. So what if they have the single largest armada in EVE, that just makes the achievement all the more worth it. Britain had the world's greatest army and navy, and yet a ragtag bunch of colonists kicked the tea and crumpets outta 'em. Maybe New Eden could take a few lessons from that.
So join me. Join the Anti-Swarm. From many, one; one goal, many approaches. Let the fight begin!
[Also, screw off all y'all RP haters, especially you goonie RP haters, this is the best reason for FW I've ever seen in a game]
Sorry there were real life implications to what happened.
This is not something to be brushed of as a GAME thing.
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3681
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Posted - 2012.03.28 05:46:00 -
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Akai Kvaesir wrote:So this whole flamewar over MittaniGate can go one of two ways.
That's where you're wrong. "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3681
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Posted - 2012.03.28 05:46:00 -
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RougeOperator wrote:Sorry there were real life implications to what happened.
Such as? "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Akai Kvaesir
0ffice of Naval Intelligence
20
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Posted - 2012.03.28 05:49:00 -
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No, there weren't. As someone who has battled with depression and suicide, what was said is not acceptable coming from a political position of power; however, the player in question did not actually take his life (thank whatever deity you believe in, life is precious no matter what). Thus, we are left with a potential PR disaster. Why not use it for the good of the game? Who loses but Goonswarm? (Even then, that's debatable. Goons need us pubbies to grief.)
EDIT: Also, I'm sick of talking about this bull****. I'm just trying to have fun blowing up spaceships. You can get pissy if you want, Goons, but it won't stop me from having fun at your expense. |
Akai Kvaesir
0ffice of Naval Intelligence
20
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Posted - 2012.03.28 05:50:00 -
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Andski wrote:Akai Kvaesir wrote:So this whole flamewar over MittaniGate can go one of two ways. That's where you're wrong. Which is where? In the two potential paths? Or that this is a flamewar between pubbies and Goons? |
Serene Repose
Perkone Caldari State
404
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Posted - 2012.03.28 05:50:00 -
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It isn't a flame war. Mitt clearly violated the terms he agreed to when becoming a member of the CSM. Maybe he should have taken such incidentals more seriously. Maybe he applies to real life the same wanton disregard he applies to this game. Whichever the case, he agreed. He violated said agreement.
It is now a matter of CCP enforcing the terms of this agreement, as they do to us with the EULA and TOS.
It isn't clear, regardless of CCP's cosmetic move to "investigate" the matter, whether CCP is clear from civil or even criminal liability. To keep Mitt is to sanction Mitt. I doubt CCP's legal beagles think he's that important to the bottom line. (They could be the only people considering this that aren't certifiably delusional!)
These posts, rapt with the idea some show of hands by EVE players has any standing in this situation just prove how out of touch the wizards of New Eden are with the world they actually live in.
Smokestack lightnin' shinin' just like gold. |
Akai Kvaesir
0ffice of Naval Intelligence
20
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Posted - 2012.03.28 05:53:00 -
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Serene Repose wrote:It isn't a flame war. Mitt clearly violated the terms he agreed to when becoming a member of the CSM. Maybe he should have taken such incidentals more seriously. Maybe he applies to real life the same wanton disregard he applies to this game. Whichever the case, he agreed. He violated said agreement.
It is now a matter of CCP enforcing the terms of this agreement, as they do to us with the EULA and TOS.
It isn't clear, regardless of CCP's cosmetic move to "investigate" the matter, whether CCP is safe from civil or even criminal liability. To keep Mitt is to sanction Mitt. I doubt CCP's legal beagles think he's that important to the bottom line. (They could be the only people considering this that aren't certifiably delusional!)
These posts, rapt with the idea some show of hands by EVE players has any standing in this situation just prove how out of touch the wizards of New Eden are with the world they actually live in. I agree with you that it is in CCP's hands. Why is turning a forum war between Goons and pubbies into a real EVE war a bad thing? I thought we all liked playing that internet spaceships game...
EDIT: the flamewar i refer to is the 100+ pages on multiple threads stating the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over...i think you get the picture. Lets move on, and blow **** up. |
Basileus Volkan
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
104
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Posted - 2012.03.28 05:54:00 -
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I am willing to provide insider info and intel on Goons for the paltry sum of 20m per piece of intelligence. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3681
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Posted - 2012.03.28 05:55:00 -
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Akai Kvaesir wrote:Andski wrote:Akai Kvaesir wrote:So this whole flamewar over MittaniGate can go one of two ways. That's where you're wrong. Which is where? In the two potential paths? Or that this is a flamewar between pubbies and Goons?
The idea that this can only go two ways. "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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Kallynda Nai
Tightpants Inc
58
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Posted - 2012.03.28 05:56:00 -
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RougeOperator wrote:Akai Kvaesir wrote:So this whole flamewar over MittaniGate can go one of two ways.
Either the causehoars will cry so loudly that CCP and Sony's relationship may be damaged, EVE will suffer, and DUST will be a flop; OR, we use the upswing of anti-Goon fervor to generate legitimate and engaging In-Game RP, create an awesome PR moment for CCP, and show DUST players why EVE is the champion of bad***ery and emergent gameplay.
In the spirit of "EVE is Real," I say we take the hate into space, and take the fight from the forums to the Goons themselves. So what if they have the single largest armada in EVE, that just makes the achievement all the more worth it. Britain had the world's greatest army and navy, and yet a ragtag bunch of colonists kicked the tea and crumpets outta 'em. Maybe New Eden could take a few lessons from that.
So join me. Join the Anti-Swarm. From many, one; one goal, many approaches. Let the fight begin!
[Also, screw off all y'all RP haters, especially you goonie RP haters, this is the best reason for FW I've ever seen in a game] Sorry there were real life implications to what happened. This is not something to be brushed of as a GAME thing.
No there weren't.
Yes it is. |
Kallynda Nai
Tightpants Inc
58
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Posted - 2012.03.28 05:57:00 -
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Serene Repose wrote:It isn't a flame war. Mitt clearly violated the terms he agreed to when becoming a member of the CSM. Maybe he should have taken such incidentals more seriously. Maybe he applies to real life the same wanton disregard he applies to this game. Whichever the case, he agreed. He violated said agreement.
It is now a matter of CCP enforcing the terms of this agreement, as they do to us with the EULA and TOS.
It isn't clear, regardless of CCP's cosmetic move to "investigate" the matter, whether CCP is safe from civil or even criminal liability. To keep Mitt is to sanction Mitt. I doubt CCP's legal beagles think he's that important to the bottom line. (They could be the only people considering this that aren't certifiably delusional!)
These posts, rapt with the idea some show of hands by EVE players has any standing in this situation just prove how out of touch the wizards of New Eden are with the world they actually live in.
Do you have a copy of that agreement or are you just making **** up? |
Serene Repose
Perkone Caldari State
407
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Posted - 2012.03.28 05:57:00 -
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Basileus Volkan wrote:I am willing to provide insider info and intel on Goons for the paltry sum of 20m per piece of intelligence. Only problem with THIS offer is, there has to be some intelligence to provide.
Smokestack lightnin' shinin' just like gold. |
Markus Reese
Debitum Naturae ROMANIAN-LEGION
46
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Posted - 2012.03.28 05:58:00 -
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To OP, agree with you. It is a matter between Mittani, CSM, CCP and the victim if he feels as such. For myself, I am partaking in discussions because I love what eve offers and don't like the negative PR that has come of it. Hopefully intellectual discussion can cause some non negative PR, and proper actions by the involved parties has eve shown in a serious light. It does bring more to the forefront just how engrained the eve image is however. Many gamer sites putting it up, and the most noticable comment is only how that is to be expected of eve. Time for a PR show.
You know, that might be something. They have mass tests, but eve really needs a demo of what it's really all about. Would be awesome if ccp did a backup mirror, had everybody gather on sisi for just one all out burn the servers down brawl, just to see what it can do. No mass test server log, just mirror it, everybody blows up, then restore mirror since supercaps aren't seeded. Probably relieve alot of the rabble stress to have just one no concequence all out brawl. |
Akai Kvaesir
0ffice of Naval Intelligence
20
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Posted - 2012.03.28 05:58:00 -
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Hey, I'm not some mathmetician, and two sounded better than a vague guestimation of the potentialities resultant from what the Chair of the CSM said, and the subsequent forum fallout. I just want an in game RP war that is fun and isn't some stale static bull****. Don't you want to play internet spaceships? |
Basileus Volkan
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
104
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Posted - 2012.03.28 05:59:00 -
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Serene Repose wrote:Basileus Volkan wrote:I am willing to provide insider info and intel on Goons for the paltry sum of 20m per piece of intelligence. Only problem with THIS offer is, there has to be some intelligence to provide.
My brilliant plan, foiled so easily. |
Frying Doom
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
52
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Posted - 2012.03.28 05:59:00 -
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Andski wrote:Akai Kvaesir wrote:Andski wrote:Akai Kvaesir wrote:So this whole flamewar over MittaniGate can go one of two ways. That's where you're wrong. Which is where? In the two potential paths? Or that this is a flamewar between pubbies and Goons? The idea that this can only go two ways. God I hate agreeing with you at times, but again I do. This could go so many ways very few of them good. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge. |
Berke Negri
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
81
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Posted - 2012.03.28 06:00:00 -
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RougeOperator wrote:Akai Kvaesir wrote:So this whole flamewar over MittaniGate can go one of two ways.
Either the causehoars will cry so loudly that CCP and Sony's relationship may be damaged, EVE will suffer, and DUST will be a flop; OR, we use the upswing of anti-Goon fervor to generate legitimate and engaging In-Game RP, create an awesome PR moment for CCP, and show DUST players why EVE is the champion of bad***ery and emergent gameplay.
In the spirit of "EVE is Real," I say we take the hate into space, and take the fight from the forums to the Goons themselves. So what if they have the single largest armada in EVE, that just makes the achievement all the more worth it. Britain had the world's greatest army and navy, and yet a ragtag bunch of colonists kicked the tea and crumpets outta 'em. Maybe New Eden could take a few lessons from that.
So join me. Join the Anti-Swarm. From many, one; one goal, many approaches. Let the fight begin!
[Also, screw off all y'all RP haters, especially you goonie RP haters, this is the best reason for FW I've ever seen in a game] Sorry there were real life implications to what happened. This is not something to be brushed of as a GAME thing. you seem to be getting pretty worked up
you should probably take a break from the game and take a mental health day |
Markus Reese
Debitum Naturae ROMANIAN-LEGION
46
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Posted - 2012.03.28 06:00:00 -
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Basileus Volkan wrote:I am willing to provide insider info and intel on Goons for the paltry sum of 20m per piece of intelligence.
Isn't Goons and Intelligence contradictory statements? |
Dhorion Pyler
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.03.28 06:00:00 -
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Wow, please continue, I am intrigued. |
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Akai Kvaesir
0ffice of Naval Intelligence
20
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Posted - 2012.03.28 06:02:00 -
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Why is it so hard to see the potential good the PR campaign on this could be? "Players across EVE rise up to defeat the evil Goonswarm Empire"...Makes "EVE is Real" seem like a kiddie pool.
EDIT: Also, I agree that there are WAYYYYYYYYYYY too many ways this could go badly. Why not embrace one way that might go right? |
Basileus Volkan
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
104
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Posted - 2012.03.28 06:10:00 -
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Akai Kvaesir wrote:"Players across EVE rise up to defeat the evil Goonswarm Empire"
Now where have I heard this before...
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Doctor Eezee
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
98
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Posted - 2012.03.28 06:14:00 -
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Funny that people are still going on with this instead of sperging about the player that actually hurt himself, because he was scammed ingame.
https://twitter.com/#!/Adelboy
Write that dude something nice instead of posting pointless **** in here. "My rule is: If you meet the weakest vessel, attack; if it is a vessel equal to yours, attack; and if it is stronger than yours, also attack..." - Admiral Stepan O. Makarov |
Akai Kvaesir
0ffice of Naval Intelligence
20
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Posted - 2012.03.28 06:21:00 -
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Doctor Eezee wrote:Funny that people are still going on with this instead of sperging about the player that actually hurt himself, because he was scammed ingame. https://twitter.com/#!/Adelboy Write that dude something nice instead of posting pointless **** in here.
You made me almost pee with laughter. Funny does not begin to describe the misdirection your bringing to the discussion. Nowhere in this thread have I attempted to "go on with this" (this being MittaniGate), yet you, a Goon, decided to come in here on your high horse and tell me to tell him something nice instead of posting pointless ****.
You pretty much just prove my point. You Goons provide the best ingame reason to do FW. I don't want to fight the Minmatar Republic, I want to crush the Goonswarm. Lets take this forum-war into EVE, and make some good PR for the game WE ALL LOVE TO PLAY. That IS why your posting here, right?
You Goons DO love playing EVE, don't you? |
Lord Mandelor
Consolidated Holdings War Ensemble.
136
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Posted - 2012.03.28 06:25:00 -
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I am with you OP, but to form this fleet we will need some supercaps. Luckily, I have heard of a third party ship dealer known as The Mitanni who will surely give a fair offer. www.youtube.com/mandaloregaming |
Akai Kvaesir
0ffice of Naval Intelligence
20
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Posted - 2012.03.28 06:34:00 -
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Lord Mandelor wrote:I am with you OP, but to form this fleet we will need some supercaps. Luckily, I have heard of a third party ship dealer known as The Mitanni who will surely give a fair offer. You, sir, made me pee. That being said, just because the Goonswarm has a craptastic amount of supercaps, doesn't mean there aren't those out there who have at least a few supers, and happen to have a grudge or two against the evil empire. |
Doctor Eezee
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
99
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Posted - 2012.03.28 06:49:00 -
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Akai Kvaesir wrote:
You Goons DO love playing EVE, don't you?
We really don't. "My rule is: If you meet the weakest vessel, attack; if it is a vessel equal to yours, attack; and if it is stronger than yours, also attack..." - Admiral Stepan O. Makarov |
Sidus Sarmiang
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
118
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Posted - 2012.03.28 06:51:00 -
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Doctor Eezee wrote:Akai Kvaesir wrote:
You Goons DO love playing EVE, don't you?
We really don't.
But we do love Roadhouse. What a wonderful movie. |
Doctor Eezee
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
99
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Posted - 2012.03.28 06:54:00 -
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The only Patrick Swayze movie worth watching! "My rule is: If you meet the weakest vessel, attack; if it is a vessel equal to yours, attack; and if it is stronger than yours, also attack..." - Admiral Stepan O. Makarov |
Akai Kvaesir
0ffice of Naval Intelligence
20
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Posted - 2012.03.28 07:01:00 -
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Classy tactic, diverting the thread into a pointless discussion (Who wouldn't say Roadhouse rules?). Your avoidance of the OP proves your fear. Man up, Goonswarm. Being top dog means your first to fall. |
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