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sleepydwarf
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Posted - 2008.12.05 12:45:00 -
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Edited by: sleepydwarf on 05/12/2008 12:51:33 Over time i have noticed that eve needs isk sinks and one that is never used is upgrading a station to a tier 3 upgrade. in the same time i have heard many super capital pilots saying that it would be nice to be able to dock. Change the tier 3 upgrade to include or allow a special upgrade that allows super caps to dock. I will admit this favors the larger alliances but any large power has in history docking for their largest ships in some form. in this way it makes the tier 3 upgrade used more often by a few alliances that can afford to. |
Gantor Tesla
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Posted - 2008.12.05 15:08:00 -
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1 Simple thing would make everyone happy in my opinion:
Super Capital Docking Array
Make it a build able item that is permanently affixed to the station it is build IN. Perhaps up to 4 per station? A graphic would be cool but not necessary.
This would allow super caps to dock like our current RL space ships dock with the ISS. You could then leave to the station, and your super cap would be anchored to the station. However, with you ship tied to the station in the event of station take-over control of docked super capitals would be lost to the new station controlling force.
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Kazami Kozura
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Posted - 2008.12.05 15:19:00 -
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Remember
undock --- doomsday --- dock
no docking for supercaps
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Dhejay Centrix
Caldari The Wailing Doom
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Posted - 2008.12.05 15:58:00 -
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Originally by: Kazami Kozura Remember
undock --- doomsday --- dock
no docking for supercaps
this
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Gantor Tesla
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Posted - 2008.12.05 16:01:00 -
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Originally by: Kazami Kozura Remember
undock --- doomsday --- dock
no docking for supercaps
"Due to residual charges from Judgement's Operation you can can not activate the docking collar with out frying the station's systems. Please try again in XX"
No docking until the DD cooldown is over. DD or dock.
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Dhejay Centrix
Caldari The Wailing Doom
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Posted - 2008.12.05 16:11:00 -
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Docking for supercaps is a bad idea and that's the end of it. Doomsday operation is only one of the reasons, there are far too many to list.
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Draconus Lofwyr
Gallente Eternal Guardians Corp. The Covenant Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.05 19:03:00 -
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considering a majority of the reasons for not docking have already been nerfed, and the remaining can easily be dealt with on the back end. the lack of supercap docking is in a way, adding to the blob factor. You cant dock this expensive ship and must be stuck in it, cant insure it or sell it easily, so you dont want to deploy it as much, therefore, you get more subcaps on the battlefield. before caps and supercaps, we didnt restrict battleships from docking because they were too expensive and needed to be vailid targets.
The reasons for supercaps not docking are old reasons and need to be re-evaluated. DD's are not the massive weapon they used to be, they are still overpowered, but that has been brough up in other threads, but in general, capital and supercapital ships are long due some buffs as we see more and more capital ships dropping now that the server can keep up with the big fights.
DD's used to be able to hit targets anywhere in system remotely as long as someone was willing to sacrifice a cyno, that got nerfed. Carriers used to be more useful, that got nerfed. yet none of these ships have received ANY buffs and continue to keep their cost of operations up or climbing. fuel costs increase as they have to compete for resources, supercaps no longer have the imunity to all ewar thanks to the hictor's. Carrier class ships still suffer from total nutering by destroying their fighters, which is easier than you think.
At least if we get the supercaps docking, we can start using these ships for tactical reasons and possibly see them on the battlefield a bit more. "hmm, I would field my Nyx, but I dont have a spare back in station" Plus refitting is such a pain hmm, move one fighter to cargohold, right click, move to drone bay, rinse repeat 40 times, same for all the other drones.
The main reason I have not moved to a MoM IS the lack of a place to keep it. supercaps are an isk sync, lets let them be that and dispense with this no docking in station issue. Even if its limited to teir 3 outposts and special lowsec stations, at least this gives people a reason to move to bigger ships and better ships. Perhaps we will see more titan and mom deaths as more people are willing to risk them.
DL
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Dhejay Centrix
Caldari The Wailing Doom
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Posted - 2008.12.06 10:36:00 -
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Originally by: Draconus Lofwyr
At least if we get the supercaps docking, we can start using these ships for tactical reasons and possibly see them on the battlefield a bit more. "hmm, I would field my Nyx, but I dont have a spare back in station" DL
...This is precisely the reason why they should NEVER be allowed to dock in a station.
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Azrael Dinn
19th Star Logistics
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Posted - 2008.12.06 10:41:00 -
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I say docking for ms but not for titans... Or a new feature to the station where one supercapital can dock and get maintenance or be selled in market or something but it would also be seen while it is there to everyone whos in space outside the station. - Azrael - |
Carniflex
Caldari StarHunt Fallout Project
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Posted - 2008.12.06 12:19:00 -
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Originally by: sleepydwarf Edited by: sleepydwarf on 05/12/2008 12:51:33 Over time i have noticed that eve needs isk sinks and one that is never used is upgrading a station to a tier 3 upgrade. in the same time i have heard many super capital pilots saying that it would be nice to be able to dock. Change the tier 3 upgrade to include or allow a special upgrade that allows super caps to dock. I will admit this favors the larger alliances but any large power has in history docking for their largest ships in some form. in this way it makes the tier 3 upgrade used more often by a few alliances that can afford to.
In the past there has been mentioned alternative idea that would come in the form of special outpost that would allow supercapital docking but would lack any other services. The idea is usually combined with assumption that it would cost more than regular outpost upgraded to tier 3.
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