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EvilweaselFinance
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Posted - 2012.04.11 15:22:00 -
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Zverofaust wrote:I have recently taken up the olympic flame of ganking Hulks and I must say they are pretty ******* ridiculous. My t2 fit Catalyst rocking overheated neutron smoked a Hulk in a 0.8 system before CONCORD even showed up on grid. And I probably could've done it in a t1 fit. 5 minutes ratting in nullsec and I recovered the ISK and sec loss. I'm all for making Hulks gankable in highsec but I'd like to see doing it require something like a gang of what I was flying, or maybe a high-DPS cruiser (Thorax) or BC hull to do it. reset test |
EvilweaselFinance
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Posted - 2012.04.11 16:48:00 -
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bornaa wrote:Look people, I am not miner, I dont have not even one SP in industry, I am just saying what I think and I say it because my best RL friend who was miner quit EVE and i want to see him back.
I only want, if they boosted offence of combat ships by a third, boost defense on mining ships by third. you're an idiot shut up forever |
EvilweaselFinance
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Posted - 2012.04.11 16:48:00 -
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MIrple wrote:I don't think the Hulk needs any kinda change to the ship other then a slight tweak to the CPU. I'm not sure if that is needed or to make the Mining Upgrade skill lower the CPU amount more then it does. This should shouldn't have to Fit Faction or Dead Space mods just to have a tank. reset tnt |
EvilweaselFinance
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Posted - 2012.04.11 16:53:00 -
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Adunh Slavy wrote:baltec1 wrote: And what is so unreasonable about the fit I posted?
Did it bring yeilds to near max yeild covetor levels? If so, then it is a silly fit for a specialized mining ship. you get to pick increased yield or increased survivability not both |
EvilweaselFinance
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Posted - 2012.04.11 16:54:00 -
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this thread reminds me why all miners must hang, getting out the gunrunner later and going to murder some miners |
EvilweaselFinance
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Posted - 2012.04.11 16:55:00 -
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Adunh Slavy wrote:And it cost how much? silence ignorant peasant |
EvilweaselFinance
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Posted - 2012.04.11 16:57:00 -
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wah wah wah my ship that makes free isk requires me to think about how to avoid dying you scum make me ill
and ccp made it harder to pod you too ffffffff
oh well i've got an idea for how to do it |
EvilweaselFinance
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Posted - 2012.04.11 16:58:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:EvilweaselFinance wrote:Adunh Slavy wrote:baltec1 wrote: And what is so unreasonable about the fit I posted?
Did it bring yeilds to near max yeild covetor levels? If so, then it is a silly fit for a specialized mining ship. you get to pick increased yield or increased survivability not both All ships should be like this. I fit 425mm Guns / Gyro's / TE's, Large Shield Extenders / DCU II / Defense Rigs, Tackle / MWD / Neuts on my Hurricane. CCP should take away 2 of those 3 Options so it to can be as balanced as the Hulk. Common folks, Shoot, Tank or EWAR to far. for armor tanking ships you must trade dps for tank
for shield tanking ships you trade other things for tank, in the hurricane example you've gimped your tank for mwd and tackle
soz you're wrong yet again wretched peasant scum |
EvilweaselFinance
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Posted - 2012.04.11 16:59:00 -
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it is only appropriate you be flogged like the wretches you are as you scrabble in the dirt for pennies trying to avoid any sort of risk |
EvilweaselFinance
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Posted - 2012.04.11 17:04:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:baltec1 wrote:Adunh Slavy wrote:baltec1 wrote: And what is so unreasonable about the fit I posted?
Did it bring yeilds to near max yeild covetor levels? If so, then it is a silly fit for a specialized mining ship. It mines slightly better while being ungankable to all but the most dedicated. On the left, fully insurable, zero cost disposable ship. Won't even care to tank it, it's free and disposable anyway. On the right, more training intensive, 10x times more expensive ship, tanked enough to withstand the average ganker. It'll still die, expecially come insert here any of Hulkageddon, ice interdiction, Bat Country, racketing for near of the above ship yield. Anyone see something wrong? No, eh? who would have thought the guy who can't do math and unironically believes in reading goat entrails sorry i mean technical analysis would come up with this sort of brilliant insight |
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EvilweaselFinance
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Posted - 2012.04.11 17:05:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha you are a joke in literally every aspect of eve you should probably quit |
EvilweaselFinance
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Posted - 2012.04.11 17:08:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:EvilweaselFinance wrote:Vaerah Vahrokha you are a joke in literally every aspect of eve you should probably quit I am using you idiots to make money. Keep sperging.
we have been considering you as our designated auditor for some goonswarm ventures, you have the exact sort of ability to ferret out scams we like in our auditors when we are looking for pubbie investments |
EvilweaselFinance
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Posted - 2012.04.11 17:09:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote: I seem to be able to fit all the guns and 2 Gyro's. Show me your Hulk Fit that lets me fit a MLU II, DCU LL, 3 Strip Miner III's and a Medium Shield Extender LL while leaving the rigs free. I would prefer 2 MLU's like this Armor Cane but I will settle for one.
so you post a ship with a gimped tank and are seemingly unaware you've done so
good work inspector you've done it again |
EvilweaselFinance
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Posted - 2012.04.11 17:13:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:EvilweaselFinance wrote:Alara IonStorm wrote: I seem to be able to fit all the guns and 2 Gyro's. Show me your Hulk Fit that lets me fit a MLU II, DCU LL, 3 Strip Miner III's and a Medium Shield Extender II while leaving the rigs free. I would prefer 2 MLU's like this Armor Cane but I will settle for one.
so you post a ship with a gimped tank and are seemingly unaware you've done so good work inspector you've done it again Standard Armor Brawl Cane. Still waiting on that fit. yes it would be the standard fit because the tradeoffs are correct, where you have tossed out tank in favor of dps in a highly attractive tradeoff
fitting mlu's is deciding to forgo tank because your wrenched peasant mind really needs that extra penny, so it is designed to prevent you from fitting the two best tank mods a hulk can have at once |
EvilweaselFinance
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Posted - 2012.04.11 17:13:00 -
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i would be puzzled at how someone could be so dumb, but hey: miner |
EvilweaselFinance
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Posted - 2012.04.11 17:15:00 -
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Adunh Slavy wrote:baltec1 wrote:Adunh Slavy wrote:
So just a bit under the cost of a covetor that can be nearly fully insured. I'll refer to V V's argument, why fly the hulk at all?
Because it won't die? LOL, sure it will, and with the more expensive tank, it is likely to drop more, that makes it worth sending in a couple of extra trashers. this is why miners are so hilarious to kill
since you don't understand ship fitting you start fitting inapproporiate deadspace mods
during the first great hulk jihad it was hilarious how many pubbies we convinced to fit a-type shield reps to resist ganks |
EvilweaselFinance
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Posted - 2012.04.11 17:20:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:EvilweaselFinance wrote: yes it would be the standard fit because the tradeoffs are correct, where you have tossed out tank in favor of dps in a highly attractive tradeoff
fitting mlu's is deciding to forgo tank because your wrenched peasant mind really needs that extra penny, so it is designed to prevent you from fitting the two best tank mods a hulk can have at once
Bolded the right part. It should be able to fit the equivalent of Mining Damage Mods and Tank without having to Rig and Power Grid Mod the Heck out of it. wrong, moron |
EvilweaselFinance
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Posted - 2012.04.11 17:21:00 -
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Adunh Slavy wrote:EvilweaselFinance wrote: this is why miners are so hilarious to kill
since you don't understand ship fitting you start fitting inapproporiate deadspace mods
during the first great hulk jihad it was hilarious how many pubbies we convinced to fit a-type shield reps to resist ganks
Oh look, the dim wit troll can't help but make generalizations and use personal pronouns, assuming he knows everything about everyone. Keep proving you're one of the sheep. That's a good boy. its funny you call other people sheep while you're complaining your grazing is insufficently safe from predators
highsec miners are, without exception, dimwitted idiots who deserve the destruction meeted out to them |
EvilweaselFinance
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Posted - 2012.04.11 17:23:00 -
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Severian Carnifex wrote:bornaa wrote:Yea, i am talking about relevant class of ships and weapon type on dessys that are most used. And if you look at changes it really is 25% and 15%. And sorry, its not 33,333% its even more, its 40%. Yea, by that amount (40%) increase tank of mining ships and we are happy. We are back on what was 6 months ago.And gankers got tier3 BCs too (cheaper gankers BS). tornados cost more to use now than an artillery apoc did with insurance |
EvilweaselFinance
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Posted - 2012.04.11 17:24:00 -
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i am somewhat dissapointed the tornado is so common now because the highlight of ganking was always the miner with about ten logistics buddies and no tank, one second gloating about how he was immune to the goonies, the next second wondering where his ship went and what that apoc was doing |
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EvilweaselFinance
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Posted - 2012.04.11 17:25:00 -
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Adunh Slavy wrote:EvilweaselFinance wrote:its funny you call other people sheep while you're complaining your grazing is insufficently safe from predators
highsec miners are, without exception, dimwitted idiots who deserve the destruction meeted out to them I've mined twice in the past year, go assume someplace else, sheep. "i graze on delicious green grass only occasionally now that i realized the predators are out to get me, and instead spend my time hiding, this surely proves i am not callow prey who deserves to be slaughtered and devoured" |
EvilweaselFinance
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Posted - 2012.04.11 17:28:00 -
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look it thinks its people |
EvilweaselFinance
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Posted - 2012.04.11 17:30:00 -
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i believe all miners should start fitting more expensive implants, so their podmails are even more hilarious |
EvilweaselFinance
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Posted - 2012.04.11 17:47:00 -
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Severian Carnifex wrote: And what would happen if you did not got tier3 BCs?
well then it would be even more of a nerf but i tend to make it rain brutixes and thoraxes and save the alphaing for when it's just going to be incredibly satisfying: and in that case i don't care about an extra 30m |
EvilweaselFinance
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Posted - 2012.04.11 17:48:00 -
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the catalyst is good but I prefer the sure thing of a thorax rammed right up the orehole or a brutix rammed up two oreholes at once |
EvilweaselFinance
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Posted - 2012.04.11 17:52:00 -
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it's "blapped" not "bloped" or "blobed" |
EvilweaselFinance
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Posted - 2012.04.11 17:52:00 -
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Adunh Slavy wrote:baltec1 wrote: So its not the pilots fault for not tanking their ship?
Are you really going to pretend it all comes down to one thing? Am I supposed to just fall for this line of reasoning? nobody expects you to do much of anything with a line of reasoning besides stare blankly at it and wonder if you can eat it |
EvilweaselFinance
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Posted - 2012.04.11 18:00:00 -
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Adunh Slavy wrote:baltec1 wrote:Adunh Slavy wrote:
Are you really going to pretend it all comes down to one thing? Am I supposed to just fall for this line of reasoning?
I expect you to use the grey matter. If you do not tank your ship and then get blown up by a destroyer it is entirely your fault. The ganker simply took advantage of your stupidity/greed. Which goes back to the point, why fly the hulk at all? Fly the covetor instead. yet people fly the hulk in droves, indicating you are once again wrong |
EvilweaselFinance
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Posted - 2012.04.11 18:36:00 -
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Adunh Slavy wrote:@ Tip The amount of complaints about its lack of survivability proves something as well. Of course this is easier to ignore right? that miners are scum and deserve to be slaughtered |
EvilweaselFinance
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Posted - 2012.04.11 18:47:00 -
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Jojo Jackson wrote:Darth Gustav wrote:By your logic all battleship pilots would be fools to not see the epic gimpness of their mining capabilities.
Meanwhile, non-morons call this a "role" and accept it. Then tell me why [Rokh, New Setup 2] 4*Mining Laser Upgrade II Co-Processor II 8*Miner II 3*Large Cargohold Optimization I Mining Drone II x5 Hobgoblin II x5 is such a great mining ship. (1371 yield/min without gank bonis and implants) joho jackson i wish to inform you that all of your opinions on fitting ships can easily be ignored considering your sig complains you cannot put capital reps on a ship that structure tanks |
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EvilweaselFinance
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Posted - 2012.04.11 18:59:00 -
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holy lawl that's a horrid fitting |
EvilweaselFinance
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Posted - 2012.04.11 18:59:00 -
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what the **** are you doing putting a mwd on a hulk |
EvilweaselFinance
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Posted - 2012.04.11 19:01:00 -
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but seriously what the **** are you doing putting a mwd on a hulk |
EvilweaselFinance
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Posted - 2012.04.11 19:01:00 -
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i should not be suprised considering you've never figured out an orca structure tanked but god almighty man |
EvilweaselFinance
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Posted - 2012.04.11 19:06:00 -
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i would be happy to discuss with you what the **** you are doing putting a mwd on a hulk please give me some insight here |
EvilweaselFinance
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Posted - 2012.04.11 19:07:00 -
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BETTER GET THAT MWD SO WE CAN GET OUT OF BUBBLES WHILE MINING IN HIGHSEC |
EvilweaselFinance
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Posted - 2012.04.11 19:08:00 -
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ALIGN TO PLANET 4, VELDSPAR IS PRIMARY, WHERE ARE MY DICTORS PEOPLE |
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