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21. EVE's greatest strength - is also it's greatest weakness. The SP grind f... - in Skill Discussions [original thread]
Biff Ekpyrion wrote: That's, at least, what I would like to see more of in EVE in regards to the skill system. At least some way of speeding it up through playing, if only ever so slightly. I don't want to see it dumbed down or made cheap. I li...
- by Sweeet - at 2013.07.09 16:47:00
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22. EVE's greatest strength - is also it's greatest weakness. The SP grind f... - in Skill Discussions [original thread]
Zor'katar wrote: Except it would hurt. That's what everyone here is trying to get through to you. How would it hurt exactly? The only valid reason people have come up with is the ISK wall. But that is a non-issue as people will either buy ...
- by Sweeet - at 2013.07.09 15:55:00
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23. EVE's greatest strength - is also it's greatest weakness. The SP grind f... - in Skill Discussions [original thread]
Malcanis wrote: I haven't deleted anything. Maybe you're thinking of someone else. Sorry my bad, I could have sworn I saw it disappear... Must have been an old cache. Malcanis wrote: This confirms my suspeicious that you fundamentally un...
- by Sweeet - at 2013.07.09 15:46:00
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24. EVE's greatest strength - is also it's greatest weakness. The SP grind f... - in Skill Discussions [original thread]
Salpad wrote: Biff Ekpyrion wrote: As a new player, I agree with OP. The OP is profoundly misguided in his assumption that the goal for a new player should be to get his ass into a T2 Large ship fitted with T2 modules. That's a fundamen...
- by Sweeet - at 2013.07.09 15:13:00
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25. EVE's greatest strength - is also it's greatest weakness. The SP grind f... - in Skill Discussions [original thread]
Zor'katar wrote: Now we're getting somewhere. Yes, new player retention can definitely be improved. I don't think anyone is going to dispute that. SP just isn't the answer. But it wouldn't hurt, and would actually help retain players by givi...
- by Sweeet - at 2013.07.09 15:11:00
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26. EVE's greatest strength - is also it's greatest weakness. The SP grind f... - in Skill Discussions [original thread]
Alex Skyhunter wrote: New players seem to believe that the raw number of SP a player have all come into play at once, and is their 10 mil. against their opponents' 150 mil, so he has 15x the chance of getting victorious. But besides the basic f...
- by Sweeet - at 2013.07.09 15:04:00
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27. EVE's greatest strength - is also it's greatest weakness. The SP grind f... - in Skill Discussions [original thread]
Zor'katar wrote: I think you'll find that veteran players in Eve for the most part very much care about the future of the game, and very much realize that any game relies on new blood to stay healthy. And yet they still think this is a bad id...
- by Sweeet - at 2013.07.09 14:40:00
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28. EVE's greatest strength - is also it's greatest weakness. The SP grind f... - in Skill Discussions [original thread]
I see you deleted your post Malcanis? But I wanted to respond with this: Half a million people? You mean half a million accounts, not all of which are active. The most players I have ever seen on Tranquillity is just above 50k. However it normall...
- by Sweeet - at 2013.07.09 14:26:00
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29. EVE's greatest strength - is also it's greatest weakness. The SP grind f... - in Skill Discussions [original thread]
Zor'katar wrote: The false implication that is made by everyone who brings this topic up is that veteran players don't remember what it's like to be a new player, or that their new player experience is somehow invalid because it was in the past...
- by Sweeet - at 2013.07.09 14:02:00
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30. EVE's greatest strength - is also it's greatest weakness. The SP grind f... - in Skill Discussions [original thread]
JJ Logan wrote: Sweeet wrote: Come on you can't stay silent forever, you know the current business model is unsustainable for new players. Your input on this oh so sensitive subject would be greatly appreciated I honestly get the impre...
- by Sweeet - at 2013.07.09 12:55:00
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31. EVE's greatest strength - is also it's greatest weakness. The SP grind f... - in Skill Discussions [original thread]
Malcanis wrote: Sweeet wrote: I'm struggling to see anything other than vanity as a reason for not giving new players a break or allowing people to catch up slightly... "Vanity"? Really? How would you respond if I said "I'm struggling ...
- by Sweeet - at 2013.07.09 12:53:00
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32. EVE's greatest strength - is also it's greatest weakness. The SP grind f... - in Skill Discussions [original thread]
Jepmi Lansatha wrote: Sweeet wrote: ...The issue isn't the ship itself, but the time it takes to fit your ship competitively. T2 specialisations take an incredibly long time... The birthday of your Toon is 2013.01.29. My main has a birth...
- by Sweeet - at 2013.07.09 11:21:00
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33. EVE's greatest strength - is also it's greatest weakness. The SP grind f... - in Skill Discussions [original thread]
OK, another brain storm. How about giving all players the chance to purchase SP boosts that will only work up to a given amount of SP. Say a 400% boost to 50mil, then a 300% boost to 70mil, then a 200% boost to 90mil and finally a 100% boost to 10...
- by Sweeet - at 2013.07.09 10:55:00
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34. EVE's greatest strength - is also it's greatest weakness. The SP grind f... - in Skill Discussions [original thread]
Bi-Mi Lansatha wrote: Sweeet wrote: This is were I am actually thinking outside of the box. If T1 Battleships were more readily available to new players, the price would drop with everyone rushing to fill out orders. The economy would ev...
- by Sweeet - at 2013.07.09 10:41:00
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35. EVE's greatest strength - is also it's greatest weakness. The SP grind f... - in Skill Discussions [original thread]
Chi'Nane T'Kal wrote: I contributed quite a bit in the other thread just to find it buried in moronic replies to the original thread (despite the thread's evolution), trolling and bittervet denial of the problem. Starting a new one with a more ...
- by Sweeet - at 2013.07.09 10:28:00
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36. EVE's greatest strength - is also it's greatest weakness. The SP grind f... - in Skill Discussions [original thread]
So far the only real reason people can come up with, is that it doesn't matter if a new player could fly say a T2 fitted BS, they will still get their butt handed to them due to lack of experience. Something I guarantee you the vast majority of ne...
- by Sweeet - at 2013.07.09 09:34:00
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37. EVE's greatest strength - is also it's greatest weakness. The SP grind f... - in Skill Discussions [original thread]
Freighdee Katt wrote: Jack Miton wrote: PS: just as a note, '10 years of sp' is completely meaningless. at any one time in game, youre probably applying 6 months worth of SP training at a time, MAYBE a years worth for some roles. if you have...
- by Sweeet - at 2013.07.09 09:13:00
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38. EVE's greatest strength - is also it's greatest weakness. The SP grind f... - in Skill Discussions [original thread]
Biff Ekpyrion wrote: You guys raise some fair points. However, this is a misunderstanding: Jack Miton wrote: bottom line: EVE is NOT meant to be easy. deal with it or ship out. Noone here is asking for an easier game. That would imp...
- by Sweeet - at 2013.07.09 09:11:00
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39. EVE's greatest strength - is also it's greatest weakness. The SP grind f... - in Skill Discussions [original thread]
Jack Miton wrote: Look, literally everyone here has told you the same thing: Youre going too fast What youre going is like letting a player fight the last boss in an RPG game on his first time playing. it's just not good for anyone involved. un...
- by Sweeet - at 2013.07.09 09:09:00
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40. EVE's greatest strength - is also it's greatest weakness. The SP grind f... - in Skill Discussions [original thread]
Jack Miton wrote: your issue is that youre training into BS level ships and guns at 3 months old. You should be sticking to cruisers. I didnt even start touching BSs till I was a year in and only recently brought my BS skill up to a good level....
- by Sweeet - at 2013.07.08 23:45:00
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