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Five Thirty
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.23 20:32:00 -
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Highsec warfare is basically only for 3 things:
- Griefing Industrial Corporations
- Extracting ISK from targeted corporations
- RvB PvP practice
Many of your points about war are spot on.
- There is no way to win
- Attacking corps will only fight when they have a clear and decisive advantage
- Defending corps will only fight when they have a clear and decisive advangage
- Docking games are lame and a complete waste of time.
Many of the problems with highsec warfare stem from the reasons that it is used. When an industrial corp has war declared against them by a PvP corp, they generally either stay docked up playing station games, or simply don't log in for the week. They move assets around with neutral alts, or ultimately, they just drop corp until the war is over. The fights and tears generally desired by the aggressing corporation are nearly always denied by the target corporation, making the war a frustrating waste of time for both sides.
In my opinion, any corporation that pays a 'ransom' to have a war end is stupid. There is no system that requires the aggressing corporation to cease war activity, and even if they do end the war, there is no system in place (yet) to prevent them from re-declaring war 48 hours later.
Logically, one would think that when an aggressed corp simply chooses to deny the aggressor any fights or tears, the aggressing corporation would simply sod off, but for some reason they don't. They spend hour upon boring hour camping outside stations in a hope to get a gank on an unsuspecting WT.
How is this fun for any side?
The solution is to stop paying ransoms, deny lols, give no tears, and basically turtle up until they go away. |
Five Thirty
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
41
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Posted - 2012.04.23 20:34:00 -
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Fredfredbug4 wrote:
Come to nullsec one of these days. What you carebears deal with in hi-sec is hardly war.
This is precisely my point. High-sec warfare is NOT WAR. It's simply concord sanctioned griefing... in nearly all cases.
It's easily likened to Manchester United coming out and throwing down money game challenges against grammar school football teams.
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Five Thirty
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.23 22:18:00 -
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CROFTED wrote: War is meant to be played out on the battlefield using tactics and superior ships.
Yes, this is what it's meant to be.
In reality, it is just a week of station games and both sides running away from fights while attempting to get a gank. |
Five Thirty
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.24 21:21:00 -
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Lyric Lahnder wrote:We need a war dec system in Hi sec. Eve isnt eve if you can be undocked and safe all the time.
This is where you've totally missed the mark.
Corps that don't want to fight simply don't undock.
I had a war just last month that basically involved the WT corp camping outside the station I was in, then later us camping outside the station they were in.
Guess how many ships got blown up?
ZERO.
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Five Thirty
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
49
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Posted - 2012.04.24 21:57:00 -
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Haulie Berry wrote:
You say that like it's not okay. Really, simply being disruptive can be every bit as financially damaging as destroying things.
It's not even financially disruptive... out of corp alts to haul things and mine materials. Research / Invention / Manufacturing still go on as usual.
The system is just lame.
Make both sides duke it out with no safe zones or something, but the way it is now is just stupid station games by both sides. |
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