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Poreuomai
Minmatar
Mirkur Draug'Tyr
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.02.17 10:37:00 -
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Edited by: Poreuomai on 17/02/2009 10:42:54
 Originally by: Ikar Kaltin
... without any resistence from the terrorists themselves ... all our relations are done with those who live in Providence ... when the fire is in their faces terrorists run and do not fight for themselves ... long gone are the proud matari warriors of old ...
You are either very ignorant or very dishonest.
As far as I know, you generally believe that your god favours honesty, so I will assume the former (rather than the latter) to be the case.
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Conlin
Gallente
Sarz'na Khumatari
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.02.17 11:19:00 -
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Originally by: Ikar Kaltin
Why is someone not even 2 months in the acadamy commenting upon something in which you were no way involved? I must speculate that someone has paid you to speak in their place for some unknown reason.
CVA objectives were met, Terrorist towers were removed, without any resistence from the terrorists themselves, and a large Against All Authorities sniper fleet was engaged over an hour period at several points around system.
CVA have no relations with these "pets" you speak off in Catch, all our relations are done with those who live in Providence.
Considering at the peak of the fighting with AAA in system local reached 400 I somehow doubt we "blobbed" these systems with 500 people.
An important lesson has been learnt, when the fire is in their faces terrorists run and do not fight for themselves, relying on others to do it for them and claim victories over public channels. Long gone are the proud matari warriors of old, and in their place sycophants whos only weapon is their mouth.
Points to adhere .
1. U'K objectives were met .
2. Slaver Towers were removed and used for our own objectives (please revert to point 1).
3. CVA did have relations with SSI ( cva resort to calling them "these pets!" ) , hence why had CVA friendly advertised everywhere and called upon support and used shared intel channels .
4. You didnt blob one system but reverted to having your forces split up , hence when -A- arrived , your support failed to support . And U'K & -A- forces racked up the kills .
5. An important lesson has been learned . When the fire is in the faces of slavers they are about as coherent as a rambling priest whos misplaced his Pax Amarria .
Unable to fight for themselves they need to rely on every alliance in Providence to do their bidding .
Long gone are the physcophantic amarrian warriors of cva , but fat old priests who use &
rely on meatshields do to there bidding whilst counting the rewards .
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Arkady Sadik
Gradient
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2009.02.17 11:25:00 -
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Edited by: Arkady Sadik on 17/02/2009 11:26:33
I doubt aAa is interested in any way in conquering Providence, for multiple reasons.
First of all, Providence is pretty poor in relation to other zero sec regions, resource-wise. CVA has capitalized on this, putting outposts everywhere and making the region even less interesting to conquer. And CVA has understood how to entrench themselves into the region very, very well. So any upcoming alliance with goals of conquering the area will face a very long, very difficult, and very annoying campaign for a piece of space that is just not worth it.
Secondly, any zero sec alliance needs constant combat to keep the combat pilots happy and sharp, to train tactics, etc. - CVA is perfect for this for aAa. A training area in the backyard, so to say. This might of course change if the Providence coalition will go for a serious push into Catch, as that might turn them from a nice training opponent to a threat for aAa, which could change their stance there. But for this, the Providence coalition needs to be more effective at it.
Thirdly, and affecting the second point, aAa is currently rather busy claiming former Goon space. The Goon's all-out move into Delve has made Evil Thug's one year plan of throwing goons out of Feythabolis come true very fast. Tenerifis and Detorid are next for them I would assume. The question is then what will happen when Goons manage to throw KenZoku out of the Delve area - Goons, PL, and NC will need new targets, or they will get bored. As backstabbers, aAa are natural targets for GoonSwarm and the NC. PL might or might not join up. In any case, I doubt aAa will be left alone in that area of space, so I doubt they have the time to poke CVA too much.
So, all in all, I don't see any major threat for CVA's dominance over Providence in the short or mid-term future.
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Czar Nicholas
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Posted - 2009.02.17 12:45:00 -
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i agree completely Arkady. I simply wished to know -A- 's official stance on cva and its pets presuming to take a catch pipe for them selves. I wondered about the tactical situation and -A- has answered.
I do not think -A- will try to take providence. But I do believe they will not allow cva and it's pets to simply roam through catch claiming what ever systems they want.
And if -A- do wish to "conquer the slavers" then I wish them all the best.
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Vantras
Celestial Janissaries
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.17 15:14:00 -
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Czar Nicholas I wish to thank you for your independent reporting througout this growing conflict. Your keen interest in just the facts, your aversion to slanting the story to favor any one party, and your obvious neutrality have all greatly contributed to the dialog.
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Sapphrine
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.02.17 19:45:00 -
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Arkady, your posting makes for interesting reading. I suspect we'll know what -A- will do when they do it but I'm inclined to believe you underestimate slaver greed in this case. If, as it seems, the Provi bloc is pushing forward into Catch, something its never really done before, that is a notable change in their stance and something to be considered for sure.
Meanwhile, i'm thanking S3verance for moving the targets closer. Its like finding that the all you can eat bbq has moved to just around the corner, only this one has a lot of sharp bits in it!
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shanda captison
The Littlest Hobos
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.02.17 20:13:00 -
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Originally by: Czar Nicholas
Edited by: Czar Nicholas on 17/02/2009 01:32:31
Thank you Taz. I neglected to take into account DHB's prominent position in -A-.
How dare you make such an error. If I were to ever become an evil amarrian scummer slaver, Foo would be my god. 
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Dsan
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Posted - 2009.02.17 21:36:00 -
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I will merely give some imput to what was requested in topic.
now that the Paxton killboards charters have been made public, I wanna show a battle in GMLH that occurred after taking down the second tower.
the Titan that your talking about. the way it went down in our fleet coms where as follows:
someone in fleet notified us that a .-A-. Titan Pilot logged on. nothing exiting here really.
a few minuttes later, scout reports in HED tells us that theres a Titan pressent in HED.
this was disturbing news to us.
with one rorqual pilot in fleet, we consulted him for estimation of range to HED from WD where we were.
result was that it is very possible to jump a titan from HED to either HED, GMLH or SU
the last bit here, I am not totally sure about. but I think I heard that a Titan bridge we opened in GMLH but no Titan were ever jumped in.
all in all a good fight in the end. conventionals had a bore fest in the first hour or two then -A- showed and everything was fun, since we made a lot of wrecks out of pretty battleship and mostly lost ceptor sized ships.
hope this answers to topic.
And i'm no diplo from any alliance
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Mr Phail
Emo inc.
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Posted - 2009.02.17 22:46:00 -
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Originally by: Dsan
all in all a good fight in the end. conventionals had a bore fest in the first hour or two then -A- showed and everything was fun, since we made a lot of wrecks out of pretty battleship and mostly lost ceptor sized ships.
The -A- killboard is also public. You lost nearly 50 battleships and 130 ships in total in that fight. -A- lost a small fraciton of that.
Ceptors indeed. Get a clue.
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Tharrn
Amarr
Epitoth Fleetyards
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.17 22:59:00 -
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Why does this all read like 'Please -A- come and save us!'?
I don't think anyone is *really* surprised that the Providence Coalition is coming for it's long standing enemy U'K when they set up shop next door.
Or maybe you really expected that riding the coat-tails of -A- would discourage assaults on you...
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Karn Mithralia
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.02.17 23:06:00 -
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[i]Karn spits his 'Ren's Really Rough' weeties on his desk as he bursts out loud with laughter[i/]
And here was you questioning me on U'K's post quality Thaarn.
Nice post slaver, not inflamatory at all!
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Mattduk
Gallente
Universal Army
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.02.17 23:12:00 -
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Originally by: Tharrn
Karn, as one of the persons I still hold a deep, grudging respect for in the U'K: By all that's holy, why do you allow the village idiot to be your mouthpiece and make U'K look bad in totally unnecessary ways?
And you have Hardin and Garreck. Oh the irony.
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O Thief
The Littlest Hobos
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.02.17 23:15:00 -
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Originally by: Tharrn
Why does this all read like 'Please -A- come and save us!'?
I don't think anyone is *really* surprised that the Providence Coalition is coming for it's long standing enemy U'K when they set up shop next door.
Or maybe you really expected that riding the coat-tails of -A- would discourage assaults on you...
Please, never stop transmitting on GalNet. Your broadcasts are a credit to you and your alliance.
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Mattduk
Gallente
Universal Army
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.02.17 23:28:00 -
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Edited by: Mattduk on 17/02/2009 23:28:54
Originally by: Tharrn
Why does this all read like 'Please -A- come and save us!'?
I don't think anyone is *really* surprised that the Providence Coalition is coming for it's long standing enemy U'K when they set up shop next door.
Or maybe you really expected that riding the coat-tails of -A- would discourage assaults on you...
Set up Shop?
Are you even reading our replies?
For the umpteenth time, Our SUICIDE deathstars were only erected to taunt our enemy into fighting. A goal which we met far above our expectations. The sov was only claimed to neutralize the sov of the opposing force. We HAD no interest in claiming sov.
READ MY LIPS
Weeeeeeee haaaaaaaaad noooooooo iiiiinteeerrrrrrrrrreeeeeeessst iiiiin claaaaiiiimmmiiiiiiing soooooooooooooooooooooov.
There, maybe this time it will sink in.
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O Thief
The Littlest Hobos
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.02.17 23:41:00 -
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Originally by: Mattduk
We HAD no interest in claiming sov.
You're lying. CVA are right. We really wanted GMLH, a system of amazing high end moons, rich asteroid belts, and belt pirates of the highest bounties.
I was ready to counter-spam, filling my jump freighter with towers, I had to be held back by other warriors and physically restrained.
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Tharrn
Amarr
Epitoth Fleetyards
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.17 23:47:00 -
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You moved into the area, announced to 'fight slavery and the evil Providence oppressors' and staged attacks from there. To me that's 'setting up shop'. You are a little obsessed with sovreignty it seems.
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O Thief
The Littlest Hobos
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.02.18 00:13:00 -
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Originally by: Tharrn
You moved into the area, announced to 'fight slavery and the evil Providence oppressors' and staged attacks from there. To me that's 'setting up shop'. You are a little obsessed with sovreignty it seems.
Yup. We're still there by the way. We're basing out of stations nearby, as before. Nothing has changed. See you soon!
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Poreuomai
Minmatar
Mirkur Draug'Tyr
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.02.18 12:39:00 -
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Originally by: Tharrn
You moved into the area, announced to 'fight slavery and the evil Providence oppressors' and staged attacks from there. To me that's 'setting up shop'. You are a little obsessed with sovreignty it seems.
That was ages ago! I know that CVA fleets always take some time to get moving, but how many months have we been operating in Catch now?
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Czar Nicholas
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Posted - 2009.02.18 12:48:00 -
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Edited by: Czar Nicholas on 18/02/2009 12:49:06
Originally by: Vantras
Czar Nicholas I wish to thank you for your independent reporting througout this growing conflict. Your keen interest in just the facts, your aversion to slanting the story to favor any one party, and your obvious neutrality have all greatly contributed to the dialog.
I have to admit Vantras that I know slavery is WRONG. I will also admit that it slants my view sometimes because it is wrong and believing in and/or allowing it makes you bad.
I will, however, be glad to report the truth if you(CVA) will leave off the spin and say things that make since considering your actions.
It is obvious UK doesnt want to control 0.0 space. There are plenty of places where they would have a much easier time of it. I believe they are based from an -A- controlled system. They continue to take the fight to Providence where the chance of them "owning" any of that space is about 0.
UK simply wants to make slavers pay the price for being on the bad side of right and wrong.
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