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Tim Toboggan
Amarr THE INTERNET. Goodfellas.
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Posted - 2009.02.17 11:54:00 -
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Bob/gbc have the homecourt advantage. They have the numbers advantage. They can time the stront to their primetime.
Why cant Kenzoku/skunk-works/FI/EXE/x13/AXE/southern-cross/SCALAR/INTERDICTION/RUR/BLADE/BEACHBOYS fend of GOON/RZR/TCF/PL? The massive bob block even get backup sometimes from 300 man russian fleets (AAA/STAIN/COVEN/SYS-K.
I just dont get it 
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The Mittani
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.17 11:56:00 -
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terrible post is terrible
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Commander Kaine
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.17 12:11:00 -
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just you wait till they get their cynojammers back, they'll show you 
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Commander Kaine
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.17 12:12:00 -
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show you what MAXIMUM DAMAGE truly means, that is 
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Baaltazar
Amarr Beach Boys BeachBoys
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Posted - 2009.02.17 12:21:00 -
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Originally by: Commander Kaine show you what MAXIMUM DAMAGE truly means, that is 
To know the meaning of maximum damage you should ask Pure and Iron however ther might be some problems finding them.
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Vladic Ka
Minmatar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.02.17 12:23:00 -
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Originally by: Baaltazar
To know the meaning of maximum damage you should ask Pure and Iron however ther might be some problems finding them.
Does killing 2 alliances = maximum damage?
I think we might have that beat.
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Baaltazar
Amarr Beach Boys BeachBoys
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Posted - 2009.02.17 12:24:00 -
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Originally by: Tim Toboggan Bob/gbc have the homecourt advantage. They have the numbers advantage. They can time the stront to their primetime.
Why cant Kenzoku/skunk-works/FI/EXE/x13/AXE/southern-cross/SCALAR/INTERDICTION/RUR/BLADE/BEACHBOYS fend of GOON/RZR/TCF/PL? The massive bob block even get backup sometimes from 300 man russian fleets (AAA/STAIN/COVEN/SYS-K.
I just dont get it 
Just go back to school and run some math lessons, maybe buy a calculator or smt too.
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Recto Lick
Minmatar Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2009.02.17 12:29:00 -
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Originally by: Tim Toboggan Bob/gbc have the homecourt advantage. They have the numbers advantage. They can time the stront to their primetime.
Why cant Kenzoku/skunk-works/FI/EXE/x13/AXE/southern-cross/SCALAR/INTERDICTION/RUR/BLADE/BEACHBOYS fend of GOON/RZR/TCF/PL? The massive bob block even get backup sometimes from 300 man russian fleets (AAA/STAIN/COVEN/SYS-K.
I just dont get it 
It is simple. AAA are not doing the job we have ordered them to do and have yet to deploy in delve. The only reason we have let them stay in the GBC up untill now is that ET is good at begging
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Monti Reagan
Gallente Altruism. Avarice.
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Posted - 2009.02.17 12:32:00 -
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I'd just like to say thank you to BoB for killing off Pure.
Did all of EvE a favor on that one.
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News R3porter
Caldari THE INTERNET. Goodfellas.
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Posted - 2009.02.17 12:32:00 -
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im still trying to understand why goons keep pets like KIA blue, at least -A- are a decent PvP alliance, KIA offer nothing to u at all Providing eve with unbiased news |
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Popperr
Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.17 12:36:00 -
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Edited by: Popperr on 17/02/2009 12:35:50
Originally by: Baaltazar
Originally by: Commander Kaine show you what MAXIMUM DAMAGE truly means, that is 
To know the meaning of maximum damage you should ask Pure and Iron however ther might be some problems finding them.
I found IRON! - http://go-dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/Verite/influence.png
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Kathy Briggs
Amarr Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2009.02.17 12:37:00 -
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The rumors of our demise have been, shall we say, greatly exaggerated. Band of Brothers is back and better than ever.
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Fat Ducker
Amarr Lucky Hydra Corp
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Posted - 2009.02.17 12:39:00 -
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Another fantastically well informed post from the INTERNET! Just a couple of points though, I think you'll find Haargoth pretty much removed any 'home turf advantage', and as for numbers the last few days turn out looked rather 1 sided.
How the hell do I know? Well when the BoB-is-dead news broke I saddled up my trusty scan probe fitted prowler and set off for Delve, where I have set myself up as Ken/GBC's unofficial drone / loot recovery service - basically I loot the debris field from the big fights and sell them back to them at NPC stations. Which was going very nicely until 'ebil goonz & co' camped up PR- which appeared tp be Ken/GBC main staging system. Thanks for nothing, since you camped them in there the market has crashed, worsened further by FOFF's members bloody firesale.
Trust Goons to bring the credit crunch to Delve, dammit it; the 1st 10 days saw an average turnover of 300 mill/day. I haven't made a cent since Sunday.
Sad panda :(
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Iva Soreass
Caldari Blind Violence Vendetta Alliance.
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Posted - 2009.02.17 12:41:00 -
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Edited by: Iva Soreass on 17/02/2009 12:41:22
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Baaltazar
Amarr Beach Boys BeachBoys
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Posted - 2009.02.17 12:43:00 -
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Originally by: Vladic Ka
Does killing 2 alliances = maximum damage?
I think we might have that beat.
Oh yes, but next time try to do this proper way, whit cynojamers of your oponents on, just like bob done that in max.
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Fred0
Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.17 12:48:00 -
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Originally by: Fat Ducker I think you'll find Haargoth pretty much removed any 'home turf advantage'
I think you're wrong. He only removed cynogens/cynojammers which are important. But KEN still had a huge home court advantage to be fair. They had several hundred pos up and claiming day 2. They had alot of their logistics already sorted.
We've had to run considerably faster than them just to catch up. But it seems like we've done it. --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life" |

Kathy Briggs
Amarr Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2009.02.17 12:49:00 -
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Originally by: Baaltazar
Originally by: Vladic Ka
Does killing 2 alliances = maximum damage?
I think we might have that beat.
Oh yes, but next time try to do this proper way, whit cynojamers of your oponents on, just like bob done that in max.
"whit" "cynojamers" "oponents" "done that"
We in Band of Brothers/Renzoku hold our members to a higher grammar standard. Please correct yourself space ally Beach Boys.
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Berious
Minmatar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.02.17 12:50:00 -
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Let's ask Thol, he knows the score:
06:36 11Thol that we cannot do this anymore 06:36 11Thol we're not no.1 06:36 11Thol we're not best of the best 06:36 11Thol we're average with alot of titans 06:36 11Thol we cannot fight outnumbers 06:36 11Thol ****ing wake up and smell the coffee
Thanks Thol!
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Gershomea Raphael
Amarr Warped Mining Strip Mining Club
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Posted - 2009.02.17 12:55:00 -
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Originally by: Monti Reagan I'd just like to say thank you to BoB for killing off Pure.
Did all of EvE a favor on that one.
Pure. was a good alliance, we could have been a major player in EVE only for spending too much time running around after the NC. I was a proud Pure member for several year, first in SFHI, then Pure Legion. Such a shame the Alliance broke up.
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StickyFingerz
Amarr Dark Materials
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Posted - 2009.02.17 12:56:00 -
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Originally by: Fred0
Originally by: Fat Ducker I think you'll find Haargoth pretty much removed any 'home turf advantage'
I think you're wrong. He only removed cynogens/cynojammers which are important. But KEN still had a huge home court advantage to be fair. They had several hundred pos up and claiming day 2. They had alot of their logistics already sorted.
We've had to run considerably faster than them just to catch up. But it seems like we've done it.
what a load of *******s, bob had a offense going on 50 jumps away (and all the logisitics tied up in that), when Haargoth pulled his move.
that said, the NC are a class act, i think what most people on the GBC side really object to is the goons running around screaming "we win", when in fact without NC, TCF and PL they aint worth anything.
make no mistake, any progress your side have made in this war is down to NC, PL and TCF, cause all you guys are proper allainces with great members and staying power.
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Jager Narses
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.17 12:58:00 -
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You're right, without our allies we wouldn't be winning.
But we do have our allies, so we are winning.
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Kathy Briggs
Amarr Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2009.02.17 13:01:00 -
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Originally by: StickyFingerz
Originally by: Fred0
Originally by: Fat Ducker I think you'll find Haargoth pretty much removed any 'home turf advantage'
I think you're wrong. He only removed cynogens/cynojammers which are important. But KEN still had a huge home court advantage to be fair. They had several hundred pos up and claiming day 2. They had alot of their logistics already sorted.
We've had to run considerably faster than them just to catch up. But it seems like we've done it.
what a load of *******s, bob had a offense going on 50 jumps away (and all the logisitics tied up in that), when Haargoth pulled his move.
that said, the NC are a class act, i think what most people on the GBC side really object to is the goons running around screaming "we win", when in fact without NC, TCF and PL they aint worth anything.
make no mistake, any progress your side have made in this war is down to NC, PL and TCF, cause all you guys are proper allainces with great members and staying power.
Indeed goonies are newbies in t1 frigates. That's all they are.
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StickyFingerz
Amarr Dark Materials
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Posted - 2009.02.17 13:02:00 -
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Edited by: StickyFingerz on 17/02/2009 13:05:35
Originally by: Jager Narses You're right, without our allies we wouldn't be winning. But we do have our allies, so we are winning.
There is a post i can get behind, see that wasnt so hard was it? ;) Facts, honesty and no chest beating? are you sure your a goonie?!
your like the 2nd nice goon ive met? ;) *cuddles*
Originally by: Kathy Briggs Indeed goonies are newbies in t1 frigates. That's all they are.
i never said that, but before the disband of brothers incident your participation was AWFUL, FACT. TCF were working there *******s off for you in the south, allong with NC.
/Sticky
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Jager Narses
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.17 13:06:00 -
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Originally by: StickyFingerz
There is a post i can get behind, see that wasnt so hard was it? ;) Facts, honesty and no chest beating? are you sure your a goonie?!
your like the 2nd nice goon ive met? ;) *cuddles*
So you admit we're winning? Great
Quote:
i never said that, but before the disband of borthers incident your participation was AWFUL, FACT. TCF were working there *******s off for you in the south, allong with NC.
It's true, goons are terrible at this game
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Tholarim
Amarr Destructive Influence KenZoku
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Posted - 2009.02.17 13:06:00 -
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Originally by: Berious Let's ask Thol, he knows the score:
06:36 11Thol that we cannot do this anymore 06:36 11Thol we're not no.1 06:36 11Thol we're not best of the best 06:36 11Thol we're average with alot of titans 06:36 11Thol we cannot fight outnumbers 06:36 11Thol ****ing wake up and smell the coffee
Thanks Thol!
hey i call it like i see it. Rolling over is a different thing though 
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Fred0
Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.17 13:07:00 -
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Originally by: StickyFingerz
Originally by: Fred0
Originally by: Fat Ducker I think you'll find Haargoth pretty much removed any 'home turf advantage'
I think you're wrong. He only removed cynogens/cynojammers which are important. But KEN still had a huge home court advantage to be fair. They had several hundred pos up and claiming day 2. They had alot of their logistics already sorted.
We've had to run considerably faster than them just to catch up. But it seems like we've done it.
what a load of *******s, bob had a offense going on 50 jumps away (and all the logisitics tied up in that), when Haargoth pulled his move.
That's not true. BOB (at the time) put considerable planning into the logistics of home defence before they went on MAX. They had (they thought) a realistic plan on how to defend their home aswell as running a succesfull MAX.
Or if they didn't. Atleast they said they did and tried to bluff us. In which case lmao. --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life" |

StickyFingerz
Amarr Dark Materials
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Posted - 2009.02.17 13:08:00 -
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Originally by: Jager Narses
So you admit we're winning? Great
lol ;) no, but yes, but no?
Originally by: Jager Narses
It's true, goons are terrible at this game
never said that did i...
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Fred0
Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.17 13:08:00 -
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Originally by: Tholarim hey i call it like i see it. Rolling over is a different thing though 
The way I see it. You'd fit right into RZR. We're all about being emo and raging at others and ourselves. Aswell as ragequitting about no fc's online :) --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life" |

Fat Ducker
Amarr Lucky Hydra Corp
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Posted - 2009.02.17 13:11:00 -
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Originally by: Iva Soreass Edited by: Iva Soreass on 17/02/2009 12:41:22
Originally by: CCP Taera Alt posting is not allowed on the Corporation, Alliance and Organization Discussions forum.
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You looking at me? 3year old corp sweetie, of which I'm senior director and in the absence of our MIA CEO (anyone seen Desmodena?) I have reversed our 'No COAD' policy. I have a wallet balance of over 3 bill (I was complaining about goons locking down PR- or it would be over 4 by now) and 12 mill SP (hardcore carebear SP at that) which has been actively training the toons entire history) that pretty much make me a main.
You can find LHY on battle-clinic should you so wish. Personally I think you're just jealous cos you didn't think to do this yourself.
At this point I'd apologise for going off topic etc, but there was no content or topic to begin with.
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Iva Soreass
Caldari Blind Violence Vendetta Alliance.
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Posted - 2009.02.17 13:15:00 -
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Originally by: Fat Ducker
You looking at me? 3year old corp sweetie, of which I'm senior director and in the absence of our MIA CEO (anyone seen Desmodena?) I have reversed our 'No COAD' policy. I have a wallet balance of over 3 bill (I was complaining about goons locking down PR- or it would be over 4 by now) and 12 mill SP (hardcore carebear SP at that) which has been actively training the toons entire history) that pretty much make me a main.
You can find LHY on battle-clinic should you so wish. Personally I think you're just jealous cos you didn't think to do this yourself.
At this point I'd apologise for going off topic etc, but there was no content or topic to begin with.
Nope not you, the alt*** op ;)
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O Thief
Amarr The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.02.17 13:18:00 -
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Originally by: Vladic Ka
Originally by: Baaltazar
To know the meaning of maximum damage you should ask Pure and Iron however ther might be some problems finding them.
Does killing 2 alliances = maximum damage?
I think we might have that beat.
still, they did it with cynojammers... well done for capitalising on the alliance disbanding, but it would be a whole lot more impressive if it was achieved without that 
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Shinma Apollo
Caldari Shut Up And Play
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Posted - 2009.02.17 13:35:00 -
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Originally by: Fred0
Originally by: Tholarim hey i call it like i see it. Rolling over is a different thing though 
The way I see it. You'd fit right into RZR. We're all about being emo and raging at others and ourselves. Aswell as ragequitting about no fc's online :)
This sounds suspiciously like every single alliance out there...
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Rand Paul
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.17 13:38:00 -
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Please note that T1 cruisers are not allowed in GBC fleets |

Fat Ducker
Amarr Lucky Hydra Corp
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Posted - 2009.02.17 13:45:00 -
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It's the INTERNET, if you ban one they just make another. If COAD was about constructive discussion in a cogent manner then I could understand your concerns, but its the same troll fest its always been. Give them due credit though, they are equal opportunist trolls.
Speaking of oppertunism, for the whole Delve business to turn into great comedy (and as another poster observed earlier) Ken would have to get pushed right into PB to snuggle up in EXE's unmolested sov, AAA will have taken all of Goons old turf by then and the question would be - why would NC, PL & TCF need Goons any more when they could just split up Delve & Querious 3 ways?
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Tim Toboggan
Amarr THE INTERNET. Goodfellas.
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Posted - 2009.02.17 13:47:00 -
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Originally by: O Thief
Originally by: Vladic Ka
Originally by: Baaltazar
To know the meaning of maximum damage you should ask Pure and Iron however ther might be some problems finding them.
Does killing 2 alliances = maximum damage?
I think we might have that beat.
still, they did it with cynojammers... well done for capitalising on the alliance disbanding, but it would be a whole lot more impressive if it was achieved without that 
Im pretty sure goon/tcf/rzr/PL aint doing this to impress you Butterdog.
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CARY
Caldari Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.17 13:49:00 -
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Originally by: Jager Narses You're right, without our allies we wouldn't be winning.
But we do have our allies, so we are winning.
SWEET!!!!!
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Kathy Briggs
Amarr Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2009.02.17 14:00:00 -
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Originally by: O Thief
Originally by: Vladic Ka
Originally by: Baaltazar
To know the meaning of maximum damage you should ask Pure and Iron however ther might be some problems finding them.
Does killing 2 alliances = maximum damage?
I think we might have that beat.
still, they did it with cynojammers... well done for capitalising on the alliance disbanding, but it would be a whole lot more impressive if it was achieved without that 
*sits in empire mining ship*
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Southern Suzy
Minmatar THE INTERNET. Goodfellas.
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Posted - 2009.02.17 14:06:00 -
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Originally by: Tim Toboggan They have the numbers advantage.
You sir should do better homework, goons n co napped 80% of eve and therefor always are able to field bigger fleets. everyone knows an NC alliance will not fight unless they outnumber the enemy 3:1 So wait this is the end of my post allready?
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Derida
Amarr l Black Thorns l Event Horizon.
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Posted - 2009.02.17 14:31:00 -
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Originally by: Southern Suzy You sir should do better homework, goons n co napped 80% of eve and therefor always are able to field bigger fleets. everyone knows an NC alliance will not fight unless they outnumber the enemy 3:1
an alliance sieging our deathstars in pnq with a fleet of 400 including caps fleeing from a 250man pl/sot fleet should stfu and not talk about not fighting 3:1.
scnr
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Nguyen VanPhuoc
Minmatar The Halibuts
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Posted - 2009.02.17 14:44:00 -
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Someone called lTOPl is selling five grands worth of GTC's in the Timecode Bazaar, I wonder what that is funding? ___________________ MAXimum CAOD!
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O Thief
Amarr The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.02.17 15:03:00 -
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Originally by: Tim Toboggan
Originally by: O Thief
still, they did it with cynojammers... well done for capitalising on the alliance disbanding, but it would be a whole lot more impressive if it was achieved without that 
Im pretty sure goon/tcf/rzr/PL aint doing this to impress you Butterdog.
heh, I'm sure... I'd hate for them to fail in their objective 
I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who finds the whole thing completely 'meh' though... I mean BoB were the evil empire, it should have been an epic slog and a hard won victory.
All it is now is the result of a bizarre quirk of game mechanics and tower spammage. Not really the explosive end people were hoping for.
Fred0 claims its somehow a massive achievement because he had to do some logisitcs, but he can't be serious. You have to do that anyway if you're going to invade Sov 4 space. Plus you have to deal with Sov 4.
But whilst its a hollow victory, I do admire the goons for abandoning their space and going balls deep. That was a good call, and a part of me even hopes it pays off a little, because it was a big gamble.
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Kathy Briggs
Amarr Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2009.02.17 15:11:00 -
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Originally by: O Thief
Originally by: Tim Toboggan
Originally by: O Thief
still, they did it with cynojammers... well done for capitalising on the alliance disbanding, but it would be a whole lot more impressive if it was achieved without that 
Im pretty sure goon/tcf/rzr/PL aint doing this to impress you Butterdog.
heh, I'm sure... I'd hate for them to fail in their objective 
I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who finds the whole thing completely 'meh' though... I mean BoB were the evil empire, it should have been an epic slog and a hard won victory.
All it is now is the result of a bizarre quirk of game mechanics and tower spammage. Not really the explosive end people were hoping for.
Fred0 claims its somehow a massive achievement because he had to do some logisitcs, but he can't be serious. You have to do that anyway if you're going to invade Sov 4 space. Plus you have to deal with Sov 4.
But whilst its a hollow victory, I do admire the goons for abandoning their space and going balls deep. That was a good call, and a part of me even hopes it pays off a little, because it was a big gamble.
*leans back strokes neckbeard contemplatively*
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Brobuck
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.17 15:13:00 -
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Originally by: Tholarim
hey i call it like i see it. Rolling over is a different thing though
06:06 11Thol ..... 06:06 11Thol that's alot of effort, thrown away in 1 fight again 06:07 11Thol damn 06:08 11Thol why do we engage 06:08 11Thol with those numbers 06:08 11Thol someone tell me ****ing why 06:09 11Thol gg in raising goons and dropping our moral 06:09 11Thol by engaging 2:1 outnumberd 06:11 11Thol serously 06:15 11Thol i won't be part of this anymore 06:15 11Thol my members won't either 06:15 11Thol bull****. 06:16 11Thol why do we never win fights anymore 06:16 11Thol cus of ****ed up **** like this 06:17 11Thol and then everyone goes silent, and please don't comment on how what or where afterwards 06:17 11Thol stupifying 06:19 11cflux I'm too angry to comment atm. 06:19 11Thol lol 06:19 11Thol all that work 06:19 11Thol leading up to this 06:19 11Thol ****ing gone
roll over on that
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Putabagonmyhead
Caldari THE INTERNET. Goodfellas.
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Posted - 2009.02.17 16:11:00 -
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Its simple really, the goons and friends used Bob tactics better than Ken used them. Spying used to be a bob strength. Now its Kennys weakens. They didnt change tactics to keep up with the rest of eve. things went down hill after coranor took over bnc, finfleet got in, bobs numbers swelled. the only leaders they have now are in evol. they cannot do everything alone.
vanity is the devils favorite sin.
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Narciss Sevar
Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.02.17 16:14:00 -
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Originally by: O Thief
Originally by: Tim Toboggan
Originally by: O Thief
still, they did it with cynojammers... well done for capitalising on the alliance disbanding, but it would be a whole lot more impressive if it was achieved without that 
Im pretty sure goon/tcf/rzr/PL aint doing this to impress you Butterdog.
heh, I'm sure... I'd hate for them to fail in their objective 
I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who finds the whole thing completely 'meh' though... I mean BoB were the evil empire, it should have been an epic slog and a hard won victory.
All it is now is the result of a bizarre quirk of game mechanics and tower spammage. Not really the explosive end people were hoping for.
Fred0 claims its somehow a massive achievement because he had to do some logisitcs, but he can't be serious. You have to do that anyway if you're going to invade Sov 4 space. Plus you have to deal with Sov 4.
But whilst its a hollow victory, I do admire the goons for abandoning their space and going balls deep. That was a good call, and a part of me even hopes it pays off a little, because it was a big gamble.
'But that isn't how I envisioned it happening! Waaaa, Waaaa!'
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CCP Mitnal
Minmatar C C P CCP

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Posted - 2009.02.17 17:52:00 -
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Locked.
Troll post.
Mitnal Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online Email |
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