Originally by: 128th ABC123

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Originally by: Montasque

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KenZoku went wrong when they started treating everyone outside their own little cliche as idiots to be laughed at.

Now they will be harassed, griefed and abused constantly ingame through pvp as a result.

I've spoken to a fair few Kenny who have contacted me and been entirely cool dudes and it's unfortunate that they missed the lessons learnt by all of us as we progressed through eve.

Coming in late into the game has meant that the KenZoku have missed the responsibility that comes with being a 0.0 alliance.

Historically, in eve, wars have been fought over a single incorrect comment to the wrong person. This is why most 0.0 alliances have control of their members. They understand that in order to hold space you need to be respectful of everyone else in eve or you will run into trouble.

KenZoku have come into 0.0 and made the exact mistakes that everyone else has.... only we did it 3 years ago and learnt from our mistakes.

Now they find themselves with nothing but NPC stations and no 0.0 industrial base.

They believe this is funny due to their complete and utter lack of any foresight into the game, they live for the here and now with no regards to the future.

And of course that is perfectly fun way to play... if you don't want to have any 0.0 industrial base in the future.

Personally, if I was KenZoku, I would be waking up to the realisation that regardless of my big words about how they do what they want and play how they want and have lots of fun, they are still going to be dictated how they play by other alliances in 0.0 space.

And that's the beauty of eve.

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I think they went wrong when an ex director joinked their alliance.... you won, stop spinning.

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Originally by: Anita mann

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Originally by: Darius JOHNSON

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You should really get over yourself and goonswarm as a whole. The only thing you and your kin have done is lose 3 regions and throw some pos's up in Delve.

I havent even seen 1 chest beating thread started by the NC and mabee 1 from PL but yet they are the ones doing all of the fighting and truly killing kenny.

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Originally by: 128th ABC123

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Originally by: Montasque

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KenZoku went wrong when they started treating everyone outside their own little cliche as idiots to be laughed at.

Now they will be harassed, griefed and abused constantly ingame through pvp as a result.

I've spoken to a fair few Kenny who have contacted me and been entirely cool dudes and it's unfortunate that they missed the lessons learnt by all of us as we progressed through eve.

Coming in late into the game has meant that the KenZoku have missed the responsibility that comes with being a 0.0 alliance.

Historically, in eve, wars have been fought over a single incorrect comment to the wrong person. This is why most 0.0 alliances have control of their members. They understand that in order to hold space you need to be respectful of everyone else in eve or you will run into trouble.

KenZoku have come into 0.0 and made the exact mistakes that everyone else has.... only we did it 3 years ago and learnt from our mistakes.

Now they find themselves with nothing but NPC stations and no 0.0 industrial base.

They believe this is funny due to their complete and utter lack of any foresight into the game, they live for the here and now with no regards to the future.

And of course that is perfectly fun way to play... if you don't want to have any 0.0 industrial base in the future.

Personally, if I was KenZoku, I would be waking up to the realisation that regardless of my big words about how they do what they want and play how they want and have lots of fun, they are still going to be dictated how they play by other alliances in 0.0 space.

And that's the beauty of eve.

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I think they went wrong when an ex director joinked their alliance.... you won, stop spinning.

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Originally by: The Mittani

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What you say on the internet is just as real as real life.
Think about that next time.

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Originally by: Spiffy Sunkist

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You really don't get bob do you?

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Originally by: Daviclond

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this thread rules

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Originally by: Dramaticus

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BAN STUCKS

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Originally by: 7Boy Curry

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I'm so confused. Everytime I read a thread here it seems like goons are destroying many ken and gbc ships. Yet when I surfed some of the killboards of tbc it seems to tell a different story?
I know that an upstanding alliance like goons would never knowingly inflate reports to make themselves look better than they are, so can someone explain to me how this works?
Is this what they call meta-gaming?

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Originally by: 7Boy Curry

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I'm so confused. Everytime I read a thread here it seems like goons are destroying many ken and gbc ships. Yet when I surfed some of the killboards of tbc it seems to tell a different story?
I know that an upstanding alliance like goons would never knowingly inflate reports to make themselves look better than they are, so can someone explain to me how this works?
Is this what they call meta-gaming?

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Originally by: Daviclond

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Originally by: Spiffy Sunkist

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You really don't get bob do you?

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on the contrary, we got bob and put it in our alliance!

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Originally by: Sergeant Spot

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Did BoB "plan" to lose all its space?
...if it does, its still just a detail within a successful plan

Originally by: Spiffy Sunkist

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Originally by: xttz

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Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr

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Look at those goons, serious posting like the Internet is Serious Business.

Goons have become what they despise.

The irony.

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You really didnt 'get' this thread did you?

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You really don't get bob do you?

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Originally by: Kanoubi

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Originally by: The Mittani

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What you say on the internet is just as real as real life.
Think about that next time.

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talking about yourself i suppose ?

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Originally by: Narciss Sevar

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You sit there one minute and chest beat about taking d-3. Which you didn't btw. Then call it all just a stupid space game when you get panned all over the place by players with more talent than you could ever hope for, be it us, MM, Razor, GS, TCF, KIA, ZAF, SOT. Make up your mind.

The only people that will side with you are the dross that gets thrashed by everyone on a daily basis for ****s & giggles anyways. Lets look at the sinking ship that is AXIOM; oooops, where have all your corps gone? or the mighty EXE alliance, who actually ended up taking down their POS as opposed to even trying to defend them when GS whooped them silly in esoteria. Then again, you know all about that.

At the very least, i thank you for the target practice. What little there is of that. All of a sudden it seems every Kengoku seems to like playing on their empire mission running alt char as opposed to using their main to scrap. You forum posture by saying that you will deal with us in your home systems, yet we see nothing of you. You say you don't care about throwing away ships, yet you run like *****es 99/100. You declare empire war on us, and we see nothing (oh boi, i can't wait for the 'hey, but we ganked one of you once!' replies). Nothing coherent at all.

You loosers are easily the worst fight i've had in 3 years. Well, at least you can't get any worse. 'Kengoku'? Still waiting for that, you haven't even reached 'kenSuperSaiyan' yet, i think 'KenPathetic' is the best you managed so far. And so, another 50 flames shall follow this, with nothing resembling a fight. I'm in PR- atm, find me there.

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Originally by: Lumen Atra

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Just wait until this Saturday, Darius.

02.21.2009 - A day that will live in infamy. It. Is. Coming.

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Originally by: Mistress Suffering

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Will be interesting to see what happens in the next few months. Perhaps interesting isn't the right word, more like annoying for everyone who isn't already GiNormous.

Goons, NC, PL, etc... will all sit on the remnants of the alliance formerly known as BoB to make sure they can't just reclaim sov and be back in business at full strength. Although some of these groups have short attention spans, winning is good, and this is a great opportunity to win.

BoB at the same time has to play the waiting game and generate opportunities to actually fight and kill effectively without being camped in by way too many guys to deal with. The problem there of course, is that BoB members have historically signed on under the promise of Non-Stop Win. That's a tough promise to live up to while you can't undock or kill because forty bazillion poorly behaved internet kiddies are sitting on you and taunting you in local.

This will get boring to both sides. I predict NC loses interest first and goes off to take some more moons or lord it over some local small alliances.

Then maybe TCF gets sidetracked fighting -A- and has a good rumble there.

Goon participation drops again as things get boring because they're very roller-coaster with their attention. They'll still be around, but it'll be a smaller group.

PL's burning cauldron of hate lingers for a long long time. They'll wait for an opportuity to strike again, though they'll wander off and kill some people in the meanwhile.

Finally BoB gets the opportunity it needs to actually organize a big push and rebirth itself. The questions at this point will be how much manpower and commitment they still have to leverage. Those who joined for quick ego will have wandered off, so it'll be those who most deeply believe the BoB mantra ("we are better") that'll still be there. How many of the leaders and better FCs survived the hibernation? Dunno... will be interesting to find out.

At that point BoB arrives on the scene again in a smaller more focused way and starts killing locals. Whether they have to do it with small focused strikes or big surprise capital assaults remains to be seen, but good times will be had. And the cycle will continue.

Prediction called. Check again in a year.

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