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Ironic Scout
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Posted - 2009.02.18 18:53:00 -
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I'm trying to figure out a few details regarding the wormhole system, I apologize if this has been mentioned:
1) Once the wormhole's mass limit has been reached, the wormhole "collapses," am I understanding correctly in my belief that this simply means the exit has moved to another system? As long as one has probes, it *IS* possible to get out of W-Space, it just might not be where you might like?
2) Are the enterance and exit located in the same system? and if it changes (as described in point #1) do both the exit and the entrance move? and do they both move to the same place?
3) If #2 is true, is it possible to jump in and out of W-space (each time increasing the amount of mass that has entered the system) in order to get the entrance/exit closer to where you might like? i.e. if I'm in querious and I jump into W-space, a few more friends join me and we push the wormhole over its mass limit. This causes the enterance/exit to jump to Branch. Since that is a bit far to travel, we send one of our BS in and out of the wormhole in Branch until it collapses, this time taking us to Curse. Can we rinse-repeat until it appears in a system close to where we are trying to get to?
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Ironic Scout
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Posted - 2009.02.18 23:25:00 -
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168 views and not one response? does no one know? has anyone tried this on SISI? 
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T3 Alt
Gallente University of Caille
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Posted - 2009.02.18 23:32:00 -
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Originally by: Ironic Scout 168 views and not one response? does no one know? has anyone tried this on SISI? 
Maybe it's cos you're totally fugly?
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Viqer Fell
Minmatar When Hippo Attacks Go Wrong
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Posted - 2009.02.18 23:34:00 -
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Originally by: Ironic Scout 168 views and not one response? does no one know? has anyone tried this on SISI? 
Hmm how about you maybe go find out for yourself if you're that fussed.
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Amael Galenus
Mighty Moshin Emo Rangers
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Posted - 2009.02.18 23:50:00 -
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Edited by: Amael Galenus on 18/02/2009 23:51:20 Sometimes the warmth of this place just brings a tear to my eye 
Anyhoo, as far as I know, the answers to your questions are:
1) There will always be at least 1 exit from the w-space system that you're currently in. However, this exit may go deeper into w-space or it may go back to regular k-space... you may have to go several systems deeper into w-space until you finally find an exit into k-space. The k-space exit could spit you out anywhere (i.e. empire, 0.0 or low sec)
2) Not entirely sure what you're asking here but wormhole entrances/exits are not linked to particular systems (i.e. system x of w-space will not always be linked to system y of k-space)... the links between w and k space are random and constantly changing- if you find a wormhole just take it as is and make full use of it (i.e. not pick & choose), finding these things is not going to be that easy.
3) For the scenario you describe, if you & your friends collapse the wormhole then you're stuck in w-space until you find an exit in the w-space system that you're in. As mentioned in (1) though, this exit may take you deeper into w-space and, if it is an exit into k-space, it may drop you back into k-space in a completely different system/region of k-space... best bring your toothbrush/passport.
My suggestion with these things would be to travel like a nomad- assume you're not going to get back to k-space for a long time AND, if you do get back to k-space, assume you wonĘt be going back into w-space (i.e. you'll be coming out with your fat lootz saying "let us never speak of that again")... go in to w-space once, kill/get everything you need, leave, get fuelled/supplied up for the next foray and repeat.
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IVeige
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Posted - 2009.02.19 00:57:00 -
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Well how many of us will just create an alt, put him in a shuttle and send him in that wspace just to have a look 
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Khlitouris RegusII
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Posted - 2009.02.19 01:04:00 -
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Originally by: Ironic Scout I'm trying to figure out a few details regarding the wormhole system, I apologize if this has been mentioned:
1) Once the wormhole's mass limit has been reached, the wormhole "collapses," am I understanding correctly in my belief that this simply means the exit has moved to another system? As long as one has probes, it *IS* possible to get out of W-Space, it just might not be where you might like?
2) Are the enterance and exit located in the same system? and if it changes (as described in point #1) do both the exit and the entrance move? and do they both move to the same place?
3) If #2 is true, is it possible to jump in and out of W-space (each time increasing the amount of mass that has entered the system) in order to get the entrance/exit closer to where you might like? i.e. if I'm in querious and I jump into W-space, a few more friends join me and we push the wormhole over its mass limit. This causes the enterance/exit to jump to Branch. Since that is a bit far to travel, we send one of our BS in and out of the wormhole in Branch until it collapses, this time taking us to Curse. Can we rinse-repeat until it appears in a system close to where we are trying to get to?
Try reading the dev blogs loads of info there.
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Skyee Everson
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Posted - 2009.02.19 01:06:00 -
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Originally by: IVeige Well how many of us will just create an alt, put him in a shuttle and send him in that wspace just to have a look 
unless you have a scan probe launcher on that shuttle, probably pretty few....
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Amael Galenus
Mighty Moshin Emo Rangers
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Posted - 2009.02.19 01:20:00 -
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Originally by: Skyee Everson
Originally by: IVeige Well how many of us will just create an alt, put him in a shuttle and send him in that wspace just to have a look 
unless you have a scan probe launcher on that shuttle, probably pretty few....
I might be wrong on this one, but you should be able to bookmark the exit side of the wormhole when you arrive in w-space, meaning that, in theory, you should be able to have a look around in your shuttle and then go back to k-space by going back to your w-space wormhole bookmark (assuming others haven't gatecrashed and collapsed the wormhole).
Note that all that's in theory though... in theory, communism works 
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Kaeten
Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.02.19 01:59:00 -
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Originally by: Viqer Fell
Originally by: Ironic Scout 168 views and not one response? does no one know? has anyone tried this on SISI? 
Hmm how about you maybe go find out for yourself if you're that fussed.

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jam6549
Paladines
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Posted - 2009.02.19 03:10:00 -
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Originally by: T3 Alt
Originally by: Ironic Scout 168 views and not one response? does no one know? has anyone tried this on SISI? 
Maybe it's cos you're totally fugly?
ROFL
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Becq Starforged
Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.02.19 03:18:00 -
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My understanding is similar to that given above. There are supposed to be 2499 new "w-space" systems, added to the existing 5000. It sounds as though each w-space system will have at least one wormhole assigned to it, and those wormholes will each connect the system to another random system - might be one of the existing 5k, or might be a new one. When a wormhole expires (due to time or the mass-limit being reached) is gets re-spawed between the system and a new random system.
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