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Tri Vetra
Ascetic Virtues
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Posted - 2012.04.25 20:19:00 -
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tessrgoonssheep baaaaaaahhhh wrote:Arkturus McFadden wrote:If people hate them so much, why don't you do something about it instead of whining on the forums? How about someone like the Mittani unify alliances into waging war on the Goonswarm? It's all very simple really, just takes patience and time. Two traits next to all prospectors know. seriously, Arkturus??/ do you recall a former "Superpower" nation breaking up into 17 plus little republics? Those same 17 republics are playing eve and they don't want to combine forces (or attempt to combine) because the CFC will wipe the floor with their sorry arses and then they'll bring the rest of their "BOTS" INTO EMPIRE. the only good things about Russia are Anna Kounakova, Maria Sharapova and all those Sports Illustrated Russian swimsuit models. caviar anyone??????
you are dumb, do humanity a favour and kill yourself |
Mrr Woodcock
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2012.04.25 20:22:00 -
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You know I'm certain CCP is taking a hard look at Goon's whether they like it or not. Bottom line though, Goon's have an awfully lot of very advanced players that really do not like them in the least. Don't look for there reign to last too long, they usually collapse from the inside out. LOL |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
465
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Posted - 2012.04.25 20:24:00 -
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Tri Vetra wrote:tessrgoonssheep baaaaaaahhhh wrote:do you recall a former "Superpower" nation breaking up into 17 plus little republics? Those same 17 republics are playing eve and they don't want to combine forces (or attempt to combine) because the CFC will wipe the floor with their sorry arses and then they'll bring the rest of their "BOTS" INTO EMPIRE. the only good things about Russia are Anna Kounakova, Maria Sharapova and all those Sports Illustrated Russian swimsuit models. caviar anyone?????? you are dumb, do humanity a favour and kill yourself edit: goons own There are some russian corps in the CFC, and there are some friends (even though they might be set neutral right now) in the east of the map. Still, BoB tried to wreck them and it didn't turn out too well for BoB, so there isn't a real reason to rag on them like that.
I think happy mutual existance on both side of the nullsec map is probably more accurate than to think they're "scared" or something of the CFC.
Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
Loose End
The Big Bambu
10
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Posted - 2012.04.26 08:09:00 -
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Henry Haphorn wrote:Power changes hands every now and then regardless of who is in charge and how they became in charge.
Case in point: Band of Brothers (BoB)
Some time ago, there use to be a powerbloc that controlled much of Eve Online known as BoB. They were to the Goons as a government was to anarchists. BoB and Goons were the two most opposing forces at the time. Although I think the Goons use to operate under a different name before they were known as Goons. Can a Goonie please confirm?
Anyways, BoB wanted order and control over New Eden and its free market economy. Goons felt differently. They wanted chaos to be thrown into the mix. Overtime, one battle after another and one mismanagement after another on the part of BoB, the Goons won and BoB was no more.
Goons still like to invoke chaos even though they control the economy now. But eventually the Goons will be overthrown by another challenger who is willing to take them on for control of the free market economy.
Power changes hands every now and then regardless of who is in charge and how they became in charge.
That is a fact of life in New Eden that even the Goons themselves acknowledge.
The history runs a tad diff from that
more like Goons were part of Bob then weren't..then infiltrated Bob via a Bob defection at Director/Alliance key man level. Goons said 'now' and the plug was pulled on Bob who fell apart like the house of cards...after that it was an exercise of Goons mopping up Bobs with the very ships they aquired from Bob via the defect... Someone correct me if I've botched that. Fill in the gaps if needed... |
Tinnin Sylph
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
118
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Posted - 2012.04.26 08:21:00 -
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ITT we post incorrect information about past events and call it fact. Needs more tears. |
Loose End
The Big Bambu
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Posted - 2012.04.26 08:37:00 -
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Anslo wrote:Garibaldi Sinatra wrote:Anslo wrote:And on top of my previous comment, you would have to throw away all sense of morality (if such a thing exists on Eve).
You'd need to think as Machiavelli did, the ends justify the means. Lie, cheat, steal, betray, harass, and metagame to an appropriate degree and you'd be able to destroy the goons completely. It is only when we become the enemy can we defeat the enemy. Fact is i think the only people who care THAT much are the ones whining about thier Sandy-box (sandy vagina) I think people care that have the military capabilities, they're just cowards in regards to political fall out and taking a risk. But yes, high sec people, the majority of subscribers, the one's most pissed about goons and their economic warfare and harassment against them, are the vocal group about this. If a few thousand ships went up against a goon fleet, it wouldn't matter if they were mission fit or not. 10,000 pieces of ammo flying at a ship is 10,000 pieces of ammo regardless of whether you pvp or pve.
I'm hisec. Some low. No nil. I'm a kid in a over 50 year old body with a bad ticker. Sudden booms tend to toggle the ticker a bit but everyone needs a good diaper filler from time to time. I mine. I build ships. I fly around and smack talk with people who spent 4 years in 3rd grade. Who gives an obese rodent's butt? No one here. Not me. Not my darling wife who plays as well.
Goons provide a lot to the game They provide drama and comedy....they provide a chance for people like me to look inside the minds of people like them. A hobby of mine. I follow them in their own blogs and tweets just to see what goofy things this new generation of children has come up with next that they can call 'cool'. They serve a purpose.
I do admire what they've done in the past but being a student of trends....I find them trending towards becoming Bob all over again. Hopefully Mittens will turn them away from that state of mind.
To get to the point...finally...hisec folks don't really care about what politics goes on in nulsec...we know politics makes for strange bedfellows and Eve is no stranger to strange. Mittens will put on his show, the Goons will wave epeckers around, all will slap each other on the back. Then HGeddon V will start and idiots who can't read will die thus making it much easier for me to sell exhumers and Thorax's both of which I've been hoarding waiting for Helicity to get off his dead arse and get going again. Goons profit on the market...Carebears profit on the ships...and the whiners who can't be arsed to build a ship or mine for an hour but who want to be rich will continue to write garbage in forums and then go back to EverPatch and WoW where they came from. Love your Goons...they bring you comedy, drama and profit all rolled up into one little package of adorable cuddly podstuff. GÖ½ GÖÑ GÖ½ |
Tinnin Sylph
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
119
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Posted - 2012.04.26 08:42:00 -
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Please explain how we are like BoB except for the fact that we're currently winning at Eve Online? Thanks in advance.
PS. Please try to have some understanding of Goon culture and goals that is not contrived from reading Eve-O posts of people even dumber than yourself before responding to this. Needs more tears. |
Loose End
The Big Bambu
10
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Posted - 2012.04.26 08:42:00 -
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Tinnin Sylph wrote:Look at me, I'm so very pretty and special. I'm a pretty, pretty space girl. Look at meeeeeeeeee.....
well now!...yes you are! Look at you! |
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The Big Bambu
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Posted - 2012.04.26 08:46:00 -
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Nope...most of my statement is from watching and listening to older and more recent statement from Mittens on the history of GS from it's founding and it's rise via the spy net and the open armed movement to accept noobs instead of the close minded big ship based strength of Bobs. Numbers over know how....
I see the spirit of that dwindling. Then again I am an outsider which makes it only an opinion and not a historical footnote. |
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The Big Bambu
10
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Posted - 2012.04.26 08:49:00 -
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Shegunna Blow wrote:Welcome to the Sandbox.
You have two choices here, and the Goons have can NOT decide for you which one to take:
1. Deal with them and continue your standard routine. Accept possible consequences. 2. Move away from goon territory/target areas.
Noone has to go to Jita. No one has to mine when there is a planned, very public event occurring that endangers them.
If you don't want any outside influence in your game, why are you playing an MMO? Educate, adapt and all will be well... oh yeah, and HTFU.
-Shegunna Blow genau genau genau |
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
3527
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Posted - 2012.04.26 08:50:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Kengutsi Akira wrote:Read something on that other site that the reason Goonie plan (oxymoron I realize that that is) is to conquer all of 0.0 then quit the game and watch the power vacuum We're not doing a good job of it then, letting NC. and Raiden. sit around in Tribute/Vale. It's almost as if we want to have reds next door.
You need some better reds; they're falling apart all on their own. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
883
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Posted - 2012.04.26 09:12:00 -
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The thread title is a rhetorical sorta question in a ******** sorta way. If hisec could, they would, but they can't. |
Rekon X
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
13
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Posted - 2012.04.26 12:09:00 -
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Goons follow well, that's why they are called goons. I don't care what you think, if you ever think at all. |
ToG
Pillowsoft Total Comfort
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Posted - 2012.04.26 12:15:00 -
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Rekon X wrote:Goons follow well, that's why they are called goons.
No. It's not. |
Jowen Datloran
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
387
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Posted - 2012.04.26 12:21:00 -
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Ohnoes, BoB is ruining everything. Mr. Science & Trade Institute, EVE Online Lorebook-á |
Singulis Pacifica
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
15
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Posted - 2012.04.26 12:22:00 -
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Kengutsi Akira wrote:Singulis Pacifica wrote:evereplicant,
CCP will not do anything about this, simply because they do not wish to. They monitor and as soon as the Goons do something that would damage CCP in any way, they would take necessary actions.
Suppose the Goons would be able to hack into the accounts of players and ask small fee in addition to the subscription based plans many players have. Now, that would lead to an immediate reaction by CCP and they would hunt down all Goonmembers responsible.
But what you are referring to are events that happen in the game. And if it happens in the game, why take actions against it? Just because they are too dominant? It's true, no other alliance, save for BoB, ever had the power the Goons have. But it is also possible that other alliances would have done the same thing if given the chance. So why punish the Goons, just because they have become what the game allowed them to be?
The Goons are not the sandbox, they are the water that keeps the sandbox intact. They are the "necessary evil". Without such a clear, outspoken, and dominant alliance, EvE would probably not excist anymore by now. They are what keeps us playing. Either by supporting them or taking a stance against them as you do. The game is meant to be evolved by its playerbase. Just as CCP will not take actions against Goons, nor will they take actions if a large group of alliances do form up and throw them out of DeKlein and parts of Tenal. Mittani alt detected Be more funny if it was a CCP alt tho
A "Mittani alt" hmm?
Has it ever occured to you, that even though there is a small chance, there are cases of new players joining the community? I am no Goons-alt, I don't know Mittani and I have no ties to any member of said alliance. Apparently, using common sense on the forums turns you into a Goon, whether you like it or not.
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Jayrendo Karr
Suns Of Korhal Terran Commonwealth
58
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Posted - 2012.04.26 13:04:00 -
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The difference between BoB and Goons is night and Day, BoB cheated and payed the price for hoarding t2 BPO's through dev support. Goons won delve fair and square (as hard as it is to believe). Goons may be huge d-bags, but they aren't anything like BoB. |
Loose End
The Big Bambu
13
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Posted - 2012.04.26 13:10:00 -
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so the Nocxium exploit wasn't really an exploit it was just called an exploit for political chaff? |
Sigurd Sig Hansen
Hedion University Amarr Empire
46
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Posted - 2012.04.26 13:23:00 -
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In answer to the title
Because you havent risen up an overthrown them yet... CCP cant help you now.
Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game |
Sigurd Sig Hansen
Hedion University Amarr Empire
46
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Posted - 2012.04.26 13:26:00 -
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Tinnin Sylph wrote:ITT we post incorrect information about past events and call it fact.
Everyone does that, even in real life. Theres a reason its known that winners write history
Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game |
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Tinnin Sylph
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
132
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Posted - 2012.04.26 13:36:00 -
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Oh that makes it ok to be wrong then yeah?
You don't know what the war against BoB was like... You weren't there man. You weren't there. Needs more tears. |
Lyron-Baktos
Selective Pressure Rote Kapelle
134
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Posted - 2012.04.26 14:05:00 -
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evereplicant wrote:So CCP please can you explain why the whole game is pretty much control by one alliance - Goonswarm? Anything Mittani gets upset about he sends his bees out to pretty much lay havoc on anything and everything which then effects everyone in eve in every way.
Examples
Jita Ice Mining Tech prices.
As the game become so saturated that one alliance has the ability to control eve. I mean well done Mittani you now litterally control eve. But CCP really is this the vision of Eve? Because Ill say it again, eve is no longer sandbox when your sandbox is determined by someone elses sandbox. This isnt a pop at Goons or Mittani as such they have achieved the end game but there is something seriously wrong when an online game gets to this point and one person/alliance can have such a dramatic effect on everyone in eve...
This game is a sandbox. The real question is, why are you allowing one alliance to control eve???
On holiday. -áIn some other world. Where the music of the radio was a labyrinth of sonorous colours. To a bright centre of absolute convicton where the dripping patchouli was more than scent, It was a sun-á |
Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd
600
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Posted - 2012.04.26 14:18:00 -
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Lyron-Baktos wrote:
This game is a sandbox. The real question is, why are you allowing one alliance to control eve???
Your thinking is wrong.
Why is one Alliance ANNOUNCING it controls EVE, when nothing is further from the truth ? Technetium is not the only commodity needed for T2 ships. And if it's more expensive, we shall price the ships accordingly. There isn't anything left for you to do to Carebears. -áGo, kill them some more. They're like fungus or bacteria, they won't die and they won't stop. All you have to show for years of organized harassment campaigns against them is ... nothing. |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2946
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Posted - 2012.04.26 14:20:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Lyron-Baktos wrote:
This game is a sandbox. The real question is, why are you allowing one alliance to control eve???
Your thinking is wrong. Why is one Alliance ANNOUNCING it controls EVE, when nothing is further from the truth ? we announce nothing of the sort, we merely announce the flogging various members of highsec will recieve for displeasing us from time to time |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2946
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Posted - 2012.04.26 14:20:00 -
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it would be gauche to claim we control your game, we merely flog you into insensibility from time to time |
Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd
600
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Posted - 2012.04.26 14:22:00 -
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Weaselior wrote: we announce nothing of the sort, we merely announce the flogging various members of highsec will recieve for displeasing us from time to time
BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH There isn't anything left for you to do to Carebears. -áGo, kill them some more. They're like fungus or bacteria, they won't die and they won't stop. All you have to show for years of organized harassment campaigns against them is ... nothing. |
Pr1ncess Alia
Perkone Caldari State
166
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Posted - 2012.04.26 14:23:00 -
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Tinnin Sylph wrote:Oh that makes it ok to be wrong then yeah?
You don't know what the war against BoB was like... You weren't there man. You weren't there.
Dude, you weren't there.
I mean, literally. Your character is like 4 or 6 years too young or something like that.
Also, I'm most certainly posting in an almost certainly troll thread that was possibly certainly started by an alt for lulz.
But I'm an alt also, making things a-ok on the karma scale |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2946
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Posted - 2012.04.26 14:24:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Weaselior wrote: we announce nothing of the sort, we merely announce the flogging various members of highsec will recieve for displeasing us from time to time
BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH Displeasing enough ? You guys are dweebs. I'm just as capable of communication idiocy like a child......from time to time. my friend don't sell yourself short you are not just capable of communication idioticy you are the greek god of communication idioticy |
Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd
601
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Posted - 2012.04.26 14:27:00 -
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Weaselior wrote: my friend don't sell yourself short you are not just capable of communication idioticy you are the greek god of communication idioticy
Do you sad little idiots ever actually read what you type ?
Plus, I'm gay-as-a-goose, so thanks for the greek reference. There isn't anything left for you to do to Carebears. -áGo, kill them some more. They're like fungus or bacteria, they won't die and they won't stop. All you have to show for years of organized harassment campaigns against them is ... nothing. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
473
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Posted - 2012.04.26 15:15:00 -
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Pr1ncess Alia wrote:Also, I'm most certainly posting in an almost certainly troll thread that was possibly certainly started by an alt for lulz.
But I'm an alt also, making things a-ok on the karma scale Alts are the new thing on forums.
Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
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