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Sader Rykane
Amarr Midnight Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.02.19 21:49:00 -
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Edited by: Sader Rykane on 19/02/2009 21:49:35 Make them absoloutly impossible to solo, make it so you need a minimum of 10-15 well organized individuals to have the firepower to take these guys down. Force us to web, scram, paint, primary our way to victory.
I'm not part of a big corp, but if you actually implemented a considerable PvE "endgame" I would definitly start looking for a good sized PvE Corp
Devs: SHOW NO MERCY, MAKE THE SLEEPERS INSANE ...
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2009.02.19 21:51:00 -
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There are no guilds in EVE, that's so medieval times... 
Apart from that, Sleepers should scan down players and actively hunt them down. This would also included POSes that can get put into reinforced from a big enough Sleeper squad. -------- Ideas for: Mining
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jam6549
Paladines
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Posted - 2009.02.19 21:52:00 -
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Originally by: Sader Rykane Edited by: Sader Rykane on 19/02/2009 21:49:35 Make them absoloutly impossible to solo, make it so you need a minimum of 10-15 well organized individuals to have the firepower to take these guys down. Force us to web, scram, paint, primary our way to victory.
I'm not part of a big corp, but if you actually implemented a considerable PvE "endgame" I would definitly start looking for a good sized PvE Corp
Devs: SHOW NO MERCY, MAKE THE SLEEPERS INSANE
TANK/DPS LFG W-SPACE
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mcnuggetlol
Amarr Outlandish Operations
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Posted - 2009.02.19 21:54:00 -
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Originally by: jam6549
TANK/DPS LFG W-SPACE
lf healer wspace purps only
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Sun Clausewitz
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Posted - 2009.02.19 21:54:00 -
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Make it so one or two might sneak into highsec and raid some ice belts
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Corwain
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Posted - 2009.02.19 21:54:00 -
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I hereby volunteer to be the sleeper AI. -- Distortion| Distortion 2 Preview |

jam6549
Paladines
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Posted - 2009.02.19 21:54:00 -
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Originally by: mcnuggetlol
Originally by: jam6549
TANK/DPS LFG W-SPACE
lf healer wspace purps only
so...we meet again...
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Sader Rykane
Amarr Midnight Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.02.19 21:55:00 -
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Originally by: Sun Clausewitz Make it so one or two might sneak into highsec and raid some ice belts
My Hulk pilot agrees. ...
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mcnuggetlol
Amarr Outlandish Operations
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Posted - 2009.02.19 21:56:00 -
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Originally by: Sun Clausewitz Make it so one or two might sneak into highsec and raid some ice belts
I'd love to see ninja salvaging sleepers
Originally by: jam6549
so...we meet again...
/mexican standoff
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Sader Rykane
Amarr Midnight Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.02.19 21:57:00 -
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Originally by: Corwain I hereby volunteer to be the sleeper AI.
What makes you think you qaulify ...
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Sader Rykane
Amarr Midnight Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.02.19 21:58:00 -
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Oh, and let the sleepers pod. ...
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ColdChimera
Gallente New Eden World Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.02.19 22:01:00 -
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Originally by: Sader Rykane Oh, and let the sleepers pod.
That just sounds not fun at all lol. --
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Corwain
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Posted - 2009.02.19 22:01:00 -
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Originally by: Sader Rykane
Originally by: Corwain I hereby volunteer to be the sleeper AI.
What makes you think you qaulify
I'm a player.
Fighting a sleeper AI is supposed to be like "PvP", but instead it's just another case of "The Computer Is A Cheating Bastard so... -- Distortion| Distortion 2 Preview |

mcnuggetlol
Amarr Outlandish Operations
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Posted - 2009.02.19 22:02:00 -
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Originally by: Corwain
Originally by: Sader Rykane
Originally by: Corwain I hereby volunteer to be the sleeper AI.
What makes you think you qaulify
I'm a player.
Fighting a sleeper AI is supposed to be like "PvP", but instead it's just another case of "The Computer Is A Cheating Bastard so...
How'd you come to that conclusion?
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No Homo
Gallente THE INTERNET. Goodfellas.
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Posted - 2009.02.19 22:07:00 -
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I totally agree guys.
I think the main feature of the new expansion should be prohibitively difficult. I mean, who cares if its one of, if not the most hyped thing to come to eve. I think only a select group of players, who have enough RL freetime, and enough friends who also have the free time, should be able to accomplish even the smallest of things in w-space. I mean this is eve right? Who cares about people who haven't played for over a year, and honestly, if you can't devote a solid 5 hours a day to eve, how can you even call yourself a capsuleer, amirite?
Solo's dead, and it should be. Those losers who can't get friends shouldn't be able to accomplish anything anyways. It was really a great strategic move to make such a difficult addition to the game, just as everyone expects the amount of new players to sky rocket with the boxed version and the hype from this expansion. What will teach them how much noobs suck better than getting their ass fried over and over in w-space?
Make sleepers way harder, that'll show those pesky capsuleers.
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Nyack
hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.02.19 22:12:00 -
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Originally by: No Homo I totally agree guys.
I think the main feature of the new expansion should be prohibitively difficult. I mean, who cares if its one of, if not the most hyped thing to come to eve. I think only a select group of players, who have enough RL freetime, and enough friends who also have the free time, should be able to accomplish even the smallest of things in w-space. I mean this is eve right? Who cares about people who haven't played for over a year, and honestly, if you can't devote a solid 5 hours a day to eve, how can you even call yourself a capsuleer, amirite?
Solo's dead, and it should be. Those losers who can't get friends shouldn't be able to accomplish anything anyways. It was really a great strategic move to make such a difficult addition to the game, just as everyone expects the amount of new players to sky rocket with the boxed version and the hype from this expansion. What will teach them how much noobs suck better than getting their ass fried over and over in w-space?
Make sleepers way harder, that'll show those pesky capsuleers.
signed but with no irony, as it actually sounds good. w-space should be extremly dangerous and high end game play =)
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Skyee Everson
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Posted - 2009.02.19 22:16:00 -
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Originally by: Sader Rykane Oh, and let the sleepers pod.
Might be a good idea not because its mean but getting out in a pod might be a b**ch...
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.19 22:21:00 -
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Originally by: Skyee Everson
Originally by: Sader Rykane Oh, and let the sleepers pod.
Might be a good idea not because its mean but getting out in a pod might be a b**ch...
They are already podding.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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Popperr
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.19 22:21:00 -
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Edited by: Popperr on 19/02/2009 22:21:25 sleepers already pod~~
e: you have made a powerful enemy this day...
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Korizan
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Posted - 2009.02.19 22:26:00 -
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All I can say is the harder the sleepers get the higher the price is going to be for T3 modules and ships. Also going to be interesting when a fleet of 20 people go after a site and it drops one module and how 20 people are going to decide who gets it.
Definitely going to need more popcorn 
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Bootya
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Posted - 2009.02.19 22:43:00 -
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sounds cool, +1 for highend gang content.
but keep some soloable badguys in there, too. Pewpew |

Del Narveux
Dukes of Hazard
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Posted - 2009.02.19 22:48:00 -
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By all accounts Sleepers will come in many degrees of difficulty, so I really don't see the problem. _________________ [IMAGE REMOVED] -- aka Cpt Bogus -- Is that my torped sig cloaking your base?
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Nova Fox
Gallente Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2009.02.19 22:48:00 -
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Leave them as is, if fought a good amount of them in a tanked out abbadon and it seems the ratios is just right.
1me vs 1them = doable 1me vs 2+them = not so doable.
You also got to consider the portion of rewards being made available. The battleships drop like 4x more loot than the cruisers who drop like 3x more then the frigates. The battleships are no where by any means easy took me a solid 10 minutes of blasting with multifreqs to keep his armor stabel and tossing drones in and out to bump his armor down and after the drones fired their one volley I had to pull them back in to stop the npcs from killing them. =============
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2009.02.19 22:50:00 -
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Originally by: Korizan All I can say is the harder the sleepers get the higher the price is going to be for T3 modules and ships. Also going to be interesting when a fleet of 20 people go after a site and it drops one module and how 20 people are going to decide who gets it.
Definitely going to need more popcorn 
Well, this somehow reminded me of raids (at least what I heard of them) so I surely doubt (hope they won't) implement it like this. -------- Ideas for: Mining
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Korizan
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Posted - 2009.02.19 22:56:00 -
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Originally by: Abrazzar
Originally by: Korizan All I can say is the harder the sleepers get the higher the price is going to be for T3 modules and ships. Also going to be interesting when a fleet of 20 people go after a site and it drops one module and how 20 people are going to decide who gets it.
Definitely going to need more popcorn 
Well, this somehow reminded me of raids (at least what I heard of them) so I surely doubt (hope they won't) implement it like this.
Actually funny enough I am surprised you are the only one to make the connection yet. The more I hear about T3 the more it sounds like EVE's version of a raiding system. IT should prove to be interesting how well it goes over.
Korizan passes some popcorn to Abrazzar 
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Sader Rykane
Amarr Midnight Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.02.20 03:14:00 -
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Originally by: Bootya sounds cool, +1 for highend gang content.
but keep some soloable badguys in there, too.
I have no problem with some of them being soloable, but the vast majority should ride around in pimped out pwnmobiles and whipe the floor with us. ...
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Darken Kain
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.02.20 04:08:00 -
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Originally by: Sader Rykane Make them absoloutly impossible to solo, make it so you need a minimum of 10-15 well organized individuals to have the firepower to take these guys down. Force us to web, scram, paint, primary our way to victory.
If they're going to do that, then the wormholes have to allow gangs of that size to enter. I've read there are limits on how many ships can enter before the wormhole closes down.
It won't do any good to make the sleepers that hard to kill if you can't get at them with enough force to actually bring them down.
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Barsexual
Castle Greyskull
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Posted - 2009.02.20 04:30:00 -
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Then we PVPers probe you down and help out the Sleepers.
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Ordais
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Posted - 2009.02.20 06:06:00 -
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And as always, the whiners (even the PvP ones) dont know what they are talking about:
so you want them to be impossible to solo? right, so noone except large gangs should go into W-space. Ok, so there wont be any PvP except large gangs again? No thx. Wasnt the goal to make the NPCs like PvP-opponents so that the explorers in there would have a PvP-fit so that PvP between explorer and hunter can happen?
W-space was anounced as exploration (=not 50ppl to take down 10npcs) and with it there would open new PvP grounds for small ship warefare (restricted wormholes, difficult POS-maintenence). Now you want to turn it into large-gang warefare again.
Go do you raids against other corps, thats the best AI you can get, you dont need W-space for it.
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Ironnight
Caldari x13 X13 Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.20 07:48:00 -
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I have to agree that it sounds a lot like it is going to be dungeons where you get your pve on and I am not a fan of that. What I do like is that it is something the larger alliances can not control, I just hope there is something out there a solo player can do as well and profit from.
They're like 'oh **** son, its a trap *Doomsday* |
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