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Sol ExAstris
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Posted - 2009.02.21 02:06:00 -
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Edited by: Sol ExAstris on 21/02/2009 02:08:24 Edited by: Sol ExAstris on 21/02/2009 02:07:45 I've tried to live with it ever since the change... but I just hate it. It drives me up a wall every time I see it. The imicus hull my helios is trapped in. Its ugly. Painfully ugly.
Many moons ago CCP changed the Helios from the maulus hull to the imicus hull to adhere to T2 scanning ships having the same hull as the T1 ships with the astrometrics bonus. Sound logic, I agree. But I still, after many months of trying to live like it, hate that hull. It looks like a bent refridgerator door with a kick stand. The Helios went from one of the best looking ships in the game to one of the worst overnight. I know more than one player who has trained another race's frigate to V just so they don't have to look at that god aweful design.
So what would I like done? Change the hull models on both the T1 and the T2 varients but keep the names and stats. Let the 10 people in eve that fly a Keres whine about how ugly the hull is, and all the new players who who are confused by the hull model swap will likely not fly the ship again after a few weeks anyways. And if thats not good enough, swap it with the Navitas' current hull as it has no T2 varient to corrupt.
Is there any other solid reasoning behind this request? No. Its just ugly. And most players can agree on that. So as an aesthetic favor to the Helios pilots of EVE, please stop punishing our eyes and let us fly a nicer looking ship 
(ps. dropping a med or lowslot for a highslot might be nice too )
/end whine
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NightF0x
Gallente Intergalactic League of Terrorists
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Posted - 2009.02.21 12:59:00 -
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Edited by: NightF0x on 21/02/2009 13:03:56 /signed a thousand times
I have hated this change since the day it happened and actually trained Amarr frigate V just to get a decent looking covert ops ship. The Helios was bad ass and is now a pile of garbage and looks like a couple of lumps of shi7 stuck together. See the old helios in my sig.
Here is a full size shot of the old Helios...now tell me that's not bad ass
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jinkoti boslin2
Firehawks The Church.
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Posted - 2009.02.22 23:26:00 -
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Edited by: jinkoti boslin2 on 22/02/2009 23:26:16 Signed.
The new Helios hull looks sh*te :(
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Irida Mershkov
Gallente Noir.
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Posted - 2009.02.23 00:01:00 -
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Originally by: NightF0x Edited by: NightF0x on 21/02/2009 13:03:56
fapfapfapfapfapfapfapfap.
WHY CCP?! WHY?!      
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Zaknussem
Intrum Industria
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Posted - 2009.02.23 00:07:00 -
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Originally by: Sol ExAstris Many moons ago CCP changed the Helios from the maulus hull to the imicus hull to adhere to T2 scanning ships having the same hull as the T1 ships with the astrometrics bonus. Sound logic, I agree. But I still, after many months of trying to live like it, hate that hull. It looks like a bent refridgerator door with a kick stand. The Helios went from one of the best looking ships in the game to one of the worst overnight.
I agree with you that the Imicus hull is fugly. To me it looks like a turd with a kickstand, so we're pretty much on the same page there. But the logic, as you said it, is sound.
Quote: I know more than one player who has trained another race's frigate to V just so they don't have to look at that god aweful design.
I think it's time for you to do the same. You are not getting the old hull back. You are not getting a replacement hull just to cater to your or anyone's aestethic tastes. It was an error on CCP's part that you got the Maulus hull to begin with. An error that has now finally been corrected.
Quote: So what would I like done? <stuff omitted to save space>
Your suggestion will do nothing but transfer your whine over to a different group. CCP have plenty of other things on their plate than to shift hull designs around because some people are upset over their ship suddenly became the ugly duckling.
Quote: Is there any other solid reasoning behind this request? No. Its just ugly. And most players can agree on that. So as an aesthetic favor to the Helios pilots of EVE, please stop punishing our eyes and let us fly a nicer looking ship 
Tell me why every pilot that flies a ship they think is ugly should not be crying to CCP about changing their ship's appearance. Tell me why Caldari Bantam, Moa and Raven pilots have to fly metal pieces of God's Disdain towards Taste. Tell me why Minmatar pilots have to fly ships that look like the ship designers dropped a jar of glue into a huge pile of modelling bits. The Gallente have the Vexor, a ship that's constantly smiling, which is really cool, don't you think? Why can't every single ship in EvE have a smiley face somewhere on the hull?
(Let's not forget that you're whining about the appearance of a ship that's supposed to be cloaked. As in invisible. Unseen. Ever heard of anyone complaining that the wind is ugly?)
Your whine will open up a can of worms that can never be closed again. I feel your pain, but you're gonna have to learn to live with this change. The old Helios is gone. You're stuck with the Imicus hull, for better or worse. The T1 frigate hull that doesn't have a T2 counterpart will have one eventually, so that can't be used. Look at the bright side, have you looked at the Cheetah lately? |

Naibasak
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Posted - 2009.02.23 02:19:00 -
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firstly, "Tell me why Minmatar pilots have to fly ships that look like the ship designers dropped a jar of glue into a huge pile of modelling bits"
i resent that comment, Minmatar ships are the best,
but sorry, i dont understand OP's point, all Gallente ships look the same to me
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Trabber Shir
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.02.23 02:36:00 -
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Training Gallente is agreeing to fly the ugliest ships in game. It was your choice.
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NightF0x
Gallente Intergalactic League of Terrorists
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Posted - 2009.02.23 12:15:00 -
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The reason why the Helios should be changed, isn't because everyone one day just felt like complaining. The hull was changed. No other ship in Eve has ever had their hull changed (at least that I am aware of, coming from a 2 1/2yr player). While it's not game breaking, it sure sucks spending all that time training for a ship to find out that a year or 2 later they decide to change the hull. ------------------------------------
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Oli Robbo
Gallente Galactic Defence Syndicate Eradication Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.23 12:41:00 -
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Edited by: Oli Robbo on 23/02/2009 12:47:22 /Signed..
What with the Keres being the worst EA frig of them all, you may as well switch the design with the current [new] helios design.
Not many people fly the Keres due to its cap instability and awkward fitting etc so switching the look wont be such a big deal..
That way the Helios can be back to looking as purrty as ever. 
Edit. As for the logic behind the switch, you can just switch the bonus' & fitting layouts accordingly.. so basically the t1 version of the [new]helios model would be the t1 version of the Keres model instead.
That way you can just switch the Keres model [ant its t1 counterpart] and make it the Helios [& t1 counterpart instead].
This would be p!ss easy to do from a technical side i presume since all you're doing is switching the models..
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Zaknussem
Intrum Industria
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Posted - 2009.02.23 13:39:00 -
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Originally by: NightF0x The reason why the Helios should be changed, isn't because everyone one day just felt like complaining. The hull was changed. No other ship in Eve has ever had their hull changed...
No other T2 ship ever got issued the wrong hull to begin with, which is exactly the case here. It's a unique predicament that needed to be resolved. This change will not be rolled back. |
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Grarr Dexx
Amarr Divinity's Edge
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Posted - 2009.02.23 14:01:00 -
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Originally by: Zaknussem
Originally by: NightF0x The reason why the Helios should be changed, isn't because everyone one day just felt like complaining. The hull was changed. No other ship in Eve has ever had their hull changed...
No other T2 ship ever got issued the wrong hull to begin with, which is exactly the case here. It's a unique predicament that needed to be resolved. This change will not be rolled back.
Kerr-ding. Why are you whining about a ship that needs to be cloaked 95% of it's lifespan?
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NightF0x
Gallente Intergalactic League of Terrorists
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Posted - 2009.02.23 14:17:00 -
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Originally by: Grarr Dexx
Originally by: Zaknussem
Originally by: NightF0x The reason why the Helios should be changed, isn't because everyone one day just felt like complaining. The hull was changed. No other ship in Eve has ever had their hull changed...
No other T2 ship ever got issued the wrong hull to begin with, which is exactly the case here. It's a unique predicament that needed to be resolved. This change will not be rolled back.
Kerr-ding. Why are you whining about a ship that needs to be cloaked 95% of it's lifespan?
Because the changes with cloaking now in development on SISI changed how cloaking looks. Your ship is no longer invisible to you. You now have to look at the pieces of shi7 lumped together. ------------------------------------
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Grarr Dexx
Amarr Divinity's Edge
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Posted - 2009.02.23 14:24:00 -
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Tehee, the more reason to rub it in. Enjoy your freedom of design, Democratic gallente scum!
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NightF0x
Gallente Intergalactic League of Terrorists
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Posted - 2009.02.23 14:34:00 -
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Originally by: Grarr Dexx Tehee, the more reason to rub it in. Enjoy your freedom of design, Democratic gallente scum!
I've already trained up Amarr frig v so i didn't have to look at it...meh ------------------------------------
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Robert Caldera
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Posted - 2009.02.23 15:58:00 -
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I fly amarr and I love the look of my Anathema :-)) Especially the premium version with that cool decorations at the ship nose.
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Zipperka
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Posted - 2009.04.01 17:00:00 -
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CCP, please get the old beautiful Helios hull back! Please...
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Marcus Gideon
Gallente Limited Liability Corp
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Posted - 2009.04.01 17:21:00 -
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1) Show of hands o/ How many are flying the Anathema because the Helios leaves much to be desired?
2) Everyone knows how the ship designs go...
- Amarr are religious fanatics, so everything they fly is "bright... and shiny!" - Caldari are militaristic, so all their ships have straight edges and sharp lines. Kinda like LEGOs. - Gallente are laid back, and enjoy the finer things in life (read: hippies). Their stuff looks like an acid trip in space. - Minmatar only have the remains of Amarr occupation equipment to salvage, so everything they own is held together by bailing wire and duct tape. Everyone knows, if you salvage a Ragnarok you get 1,537,500,000 kg worth of Metal Scraps. |

Abrazzar
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Posted - 2009.04.01 17:45:00 -
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In Memoriam. Maybe a bit more awesome on part of the Imicus hull would work. Like Marv would say: "Gallente ships... they all look like electric shavers." -------- Ideas for: Mining
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Miraki Alsento
Nutz N Boltz Skunk-Works
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Posted - 2009.04.01 18:46:00 -
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I would also like to request that the Imicus and Navitas get's they're bonuses switched back.
The Imicus used to be the gallente mining frigate and had bonuses and a description to match. The Navitas had some description about beeing a scouting frigate, and some non-sence bonuses.
Then CCP decides that every race (dont rember what happened with Amarr here) should get they're own T1 frigate with bonus to probe scanning... Well this is all well and dandy, but for some INSANE reson, against all logic, they decide that the Imicus should be the Gallente T1 scanning frig, and since that would leave gallente without a mining frig they decide to make the Navitas the mining frig for the gallente.... So now they've changed the description and bonues on the Imicus, making it appear to be a scouting frig, and they've changed the Description on the Navitas to something similar to what the Imicus's description was aswell as give the Navitas the Exact bonuses the Imicus had before the decission to create T1 probing frigs. So instead of leaving the Imicus to be the gallente mining frig and only change the Navitas, CCP decided to do double the work here and change both frigates.
I mined omber to buy my first cruiser using an Imicus many years ago, and have to say I was quite fond of the ship as a mining frigate.
The Imicus looks like a mining frigate, that has some good cargospace. I can not say the same about the Navitas. Why CCP didnt listen to the cry's back when they did this change is beyond me, especally since they're way was just illogical.
/rant
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Crimsoneer
Gallente Knowledge Stick Station Hedonistic Imperative
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Posted - 2009.04.02 10:20:00 -
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I think we all agree on this...Useful ships should not be but ugly.
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