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Cyprus Black
Novatech Armada En Garde
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Posted - 2012.04.25 03:36:00 -
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To be honest, I'm not even sure what this patch brought to the table.
Titan nerf? Doesn't concern us. Wardec changes? Now only the super rich can afford to wardec. Nerf to Incursions? Doesn't affect us. Nerf to Drone regions? Doesn't concern us. Lots of invisible UI and bug fixes? Doesn't noticeably affect us.
Other than that.... I don't know.
You wouldn't complain about needles when you get a tattoo. So why would you complain about PvP when you play EVE? |

Xercodo
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Dark Matter Coalition
1045
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Posted - 2012.04.25 03:41:00 -
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http://i.neoseeker.com/mgv/485572-Jeremy/572/29/1298787074140_display.png
can we lock this now? xD The Drake is a Lie |

Ryuichi Hiroki
EVE University Ivy League
2
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Posted - 2012.04.25 03:42:00 -
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Some people are just never satisfied. |

I Accidentally YourShip
eHarmony Inc. Brushie Brushie Brushie
161
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Posted - 2012.04.25 03:44:00 -
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OP is Iron Will.
http://i.imgur.com/0HzQd.jpg |

Mars Theran
EVE Rogues EVE Rogues Alliance
145
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Posted - 2012.04.25 04:05:00 -
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It's not a patch, not an Expansion, or even a inter-whatever you called it. It is an Escalation.
some dictionary wrote:Noun 1. escalation - an increase to counteract a perceived discrepancy
..or in plain English, they are making adjustments in preparation for the Inferno expansion. They just gave it a fancy name and a cool new splash screen. Also known as a mini-expansion. Intended to make the release of content easier, less likely to cause problems, and to make it simpler to define the cause of problems that do occur.
Seriously, where were you when they announced that they were moving to this system?
There have been changes; it is nothing significant. Whatever they did, it seems to be working and it was around 290 MB, or a little less than 1/3 of a GB. The most important and obvious changes of which are the new UI features I haven't seen yet. Also of note is the tracking penalty removal for Siege mode. If you can't figurte that out, it means Dreads just got a buff. Turn WiS into wIN! ..make all the characters Nude. |

Mathias Hex
Hillcrest Armaments
119
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Posted - 2012.04.25 20:16:00 -
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cheese monkey wrote:Mathias Hex wrote:Micheal Dietrich wrote:For every action there is an opposite and equal reaction. For instance the OP has now pissed me off. Today was a good patch, looking forward to the rest of the expansion. I pissed you off? Wow. This is a named expansion. My point was that they put alot of hype into relatively little! Taking out methods of isk income and making things more expensive means less can afford = less profit. all the major t1 empire producers I know do not like. In this case there was no equal or opposite reaction, CCP did nothing to counter the negative side effects of this patch.
OK you didnt really **** me off, I think you just annoyed me. Reason is because Escalation was never intended to be a expansion, it is merely a patch. Inferno comes next month and there will probably be another patch after Inferno.
So you see there really is no reason for ten different threads made by people whining that this "update" is a lame expansion when the public still doesnt know all the features we will get this year.
Are you saying T1 manufacturers dont like that manufacturable T1 items no longer drop as loot? Or are you simply mad drone poo was removed and mining is now a valid profession? Or are you a titan pilot who is upset that other ships can now have a impact in fleet warfare?
I recall one night in a nightclub called the matrix, there I was... Mother of god there I am! Holy f**k. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
6281
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Posted - 2012.04.25 20:21:00 -
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Let's seeGǪ
As a low-ISK PvPer, industrialist and mission runner, there is nothing about this patch I don't like (except maybe the way hitpoint values are being displayed).
I make more money from my industry, my (admittedly puny attempts at) PvP hurt more, and my missions give me what missions are supposed to give me. All is as it should be. As far as GÇ£stuff being pushed out without it being an actual expansionGÇ¥-expansion goes, it's thumbs up all the way.  GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants. |

Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
251
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Posted - 2012.04.25 20:21:00 -
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Hey Cheese Monkey, I still have your corpse in Rens :) |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
3520
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Posted - 2012.04.25 20:25:00 -
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cheese monkey wrote:I have had a theory for some time now that when it comes time for an expansion and CCP have nothing, they do their very best to see how many people they can **** off. These pseudo-expansions are nothing more than a cheap trick to earn a quick buck in plex sales.
IMO this patch has pissed off...
High isk pvpers (titans) Low isk pvpers (ship prices) Industrialists (drone poo, min prices) Pve ( no increase in missions, only decrease incursions (t1 loot)
It didn't even change much! There have been interexpansion updates with more content!
Like the titans tracking this has not been an escalation to inferno, quite the opposite. CCP please stop employing artists and spin doctors and give us a real expansion! Bring back red moon rising!
I have no strong feelings about it apart from the Titan tracking nerf which I strongly approve of, and the drone alloy change which has been desperately needed for like 4 years. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
3520
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Posted - 2012.04.25 20:26:00 -
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I guess what I'm saying is that this pre-expansion patch will probably have more - and better - effect on the game than Tyrannis and Incarna combined. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
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Ewie Itonula
Ultimate Inc. Hephaestus Forge Alliance
2
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Posted - 2012.04.25 20:51:00 -
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Removal of metaq 0 t1 loot is great - had lots more meta 4 loot drop - expect nerf coming in this
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Ciar Meara
Virtus Vindice
635
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Posted - 2012.04.25 21:19:00 -
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Sid Hudgens wrote:Posting in a thread where dude is all mad.
I am proud to have been here, I can tell my grandchildren about this.
oh wait, wrong thread, wanted to post here - [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow] |

Lady D'Mentia
Alternative R n D United Productions
0
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Posted - 2012.04.27 04:37:00 -
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Its not that I am ****** off so much about the patch, but i liked the T1 loot dropped by NPC pirates. I cold sell them on the market, or even if i recycled them i would get a far better range and amount of minerals. same for the "Drone Poo" |

ACE McFACE
Acetech Systems
639
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Posted - 2012.04.27 05:37:00 -
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cheese monkey wrote: IMO this patch has pissed off...
Industrialists (drone poo, min prices)
Those industrialists sure hate getting higher prices for thier goods! Real men wear goggles and a Navy shirt! |

Varesk
Mafia Redux Black Legion.
42
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Posted - 2012.04.27 08:28:00 -
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cheese monkey wrote:
Industrialists (drone poo, min prices)
Industrialists just pass the cost on the to buyer.
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Liam Mirren
495
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Posted - 2012.04.27 08:41:00 -
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The changes are short term bad, long term good which shows me CCP is looking ahead and I have to applaud them for it, thing is they need to do it more. More changes that take care of bad game mechanics, take the whining for what it is and rely on the long term effects of those changes. Thing is ofcourse that it all depends what long term ideas CCP has and if that still strokes with the initial pvp focussed nature of this game. Also it heavily depends on the actual knowledge the DEVS have on their subject of choice. Excellence is not a skill, it's an attitude.
My guides: http://mirren.freeforums.org |

Pierced Brosmen
Priory Of The Lemon
63
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Posted - 2012.04.27 09:01:00 -
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I have yet to find anything with this expansion that I dislike, but I do find these threads that alwasy pops up after a patch/expansion fun to read.
I bet that if CCP made an expansion that gave EVERY player exactly what they wanted (even though that is impossible), there would still be people complainging about it  |
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