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Balcony Jumper Absinthe Solutions Aurora Irae 12	Posted - 2012.04.25 03:20:00 - [1] - Quote <--- Stupid newbie So I jumped the gun on hulkageddon and started a little early.... I'm new to suicide ganking and I'm not sure how this goes once my security status gets below a certain point. Can I use my orca alt to throw catalysts out so i can stay in the game once my sec gets low? EDIT: I envision it like this.... 1. orca alt warps to hulk 2. then my negative sec pod warps to hulk 3. orca poops out catalyst fit to roll 4. i board catalyst and poop on hulk 5. concord kills catalyst My concern is once i board the catalyst, the local faction police will grease me before i can waste the hulk. Thoughts?
I Accidentally YourShip eHarmony Inc. Brushie Brushie Brushie 161	Posted - 2012.04.25 04:03:00 - [2] - Quote Balcony Jumper wrote: <--- Stupid newbie So I jumped the gun on hulkageddon and started a little early.... I'm new to suicide ganking and I'm not sure how this goes once my security status gets below a certain point. Can I use my orca alt to throw catalysts out so i can stay in the game once my sec gets low? EDIT: I envision it like this.... 1. orca alt warps to hulk 2. then my negative sec pod warps to hulk 3. orca poops out catalyst fit to roll 4. i board catalyst and poop on hulk 5. concord kills catalyst My concern is once i board the catalyst, the local faction police will grease me before i can waste the hulk. Thoughts? You should have enough time to vaporize most mining barges and badly tanked exhumers before the faction police blow you up. I would just use a brutix instead so you can get those properly tanked hulks too. Some very well tanked hulks you might not get but the vast majority you will, unlike with a catalyst in which many hulks will survive a catalyst suicide.
Balcony Jumper Absinthe Solutions Aurora Irae 12	Posted - 2012.04.25 04:21:00 - [3] - Quote So far the catalyst has been working great! then again... i don't see too many good hulk fits for some reason
I Accidentally YourShip eHarmony Inc. Brushie Brushie Brushie 162	Posted - 2012.04.25 04:33:00 - [4] - Quote Balcony Jumper wrote: So far the catalyst has been working great! then again... i don't see too many good hulk fits for some reason Because miners are stupid.
Celeritas 5k Connoisseurs of Candid Coitus 40	Posted - 2012.04.25 04:46:00 - [5] - Quote Orca doesn't have to be at the belt; it can be in a safespot or something. You have plenty of time to warp to your victim; faction police are slow.
Balcony Jumper Absinthe Solutions Aurora Irae 12	Posted - 2012.04.25 04:51:00 - [6] - Quote awesome thanks! and thanks to psychotic monk for the monetary support over the past couple days this has become my new favorite pastime... i didn't want to have to give it up because of security issues
Sutskop PILSGESCHWADER Monkey Circus 63	Posted - 2012.04.25 08:24:00 - [7] - Quote Celeritas 5k wrote: Orca doesn't have to be at the belt; it can be in a safespot or something. You have plenty of time to warp to your victim; faction police are slow. But then he would need a 3rd character for the warpin. An Orca in a belt shouldn't raise too much suspicion.
Tinu Moorhsum Royal Scientific Research Enterprise 102	Posted - 2012.04.25 08:41:00 - [8] - Quote Sutskop wrote: Celeritas 5k wrote: Orca doesn't have to be at the belt; it can be in a safespot or something. You have plenty of time to warp to your victim; faction police are slow. But then he would need a 3rd character for the warpin. An Orca in a belt shouldn't raise too much suspicion. That's what corp book-marks are for. In order to maximize the surprise I would tend to want to warp through the belts first in a cov-ops and BM the roids that were being mined. Miners will be within 5k of whatever they're mining and they don't move around much so warping to the BM will land you right on top of them most of the time. In any event, this is how I get my warpin's in null-sec even before the miners start mining. I'll sweep through the area where I want to work and scan down the grav sites and BM the top-end roids and then when I come back through later and see a mining ship on scan I warp to the roid. I've gotten some good kills that way. So... a question of my own for the experienced suicide gankers. Assuming I wanted to get involved in hulkageddon with an alt that can only fly Minmatar ships, which ship would you recommend using?
Tora Bushido Count With Teddy Mercenaries Stay Calm Don't Panic 30	Posted - 2012.04.25 09:55:00 - [9] - Quote Whats your catalyst fit ? My resists to bad posts are 78-89-83-90 ....... The metal head plate increased it by 5%.
Henry Haphorn Aliastra Gallente Federation 314	Posted - 2012.04.25 12:37:00 - [10] - Quote Sutskop wrote: Celeritas 5k wrote: Orca doesn't have to be at the belt; it can be in a safespot or something. You have plenty of time to warp to your victim; faction police are slow. But then he would need a 3rd character for the warpin. An Orca in a belt shouldn't raise too much suspicion. Quoted for Truth. If the target miner is a bot by any chance, then more than likely they will ignore the Orca as Industrial Command Ships are usually not perceived as a threat to them. Of course, as soon as they see a Catalyst or a Brutix on the overview they will start running. One good trick you can use early on, while you still have a good sec status, is sneak in with a mining barge while your Orca trails you. Don't forget to fit a ship scanner on either the Orca or the barge so that you can check their tank. *IMPORTANT: Please remember to use the passive targeter first before locking* Once you found your target and get in close enough, swap to your bringer of doom and start yarring to your heart's content. Welcome to Eve Online. Don't expect people to be nice to you.
Krixtal Icefluxor Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd 596	Posted - 2012.04.25 13:12:00 - [11] - Quote Balcony Jumper wrote: Stupid newbie So I jumped the gun on hulkageddon and started a little early.... I'm new to suicide ganking and I'm not sure how this goes once my security status gets below a certain point. It all goes HORRIBLY wrong from there. Turn back before it's too late ! There isn't anything left for you to do to Carebears. -áGo, kill them some more. They're like fungus or bacteria, they won't die and they won't stop. All you have to show for years of organized harassment campaigns against them is ... nothing.
Sutskop PILSGESCHWADER Monkey Circus 63	Posted - 2012.04.25 14:39:00 - [12] - Quote ... and those are the white knight trolls you have to deal with round here Henry Haphorn wrote: One good trick you can use early on, while you still have a good sec status, is sneak in with a mining barge while your Orca trails you. Don't forget to fit a ship scanner on either the Orca or the barge so that you can check their tank. It would require basic skilling for a mining barge but would well be worth the laugh
Henry Haphorn Aliastra Gallente Federation 314	Posted - 2012.04.25 15:09:00 - [13] - Quote Sutskop wrote: ... and those are the white knight trolls you have to deal with round here Henry Haphorn wrote: One good trick you can use early on, while you still have a good sec status, is sneak in with a mining barge while your Orca trails you. Don't forget to fit a ship scanner on either the Orca or the barge so that you can check their tank. It would require basic skilling for a mining barge but would well be worth the laugh Almost forgot to mention one thing. Remember that once you swap ships, you will have to quickly load up the ammo and wait 10 seconds for the loading to complete. I don't know how long it takes for a Mackinaw or a fail-fit Hulk to go into warp, but you will have to be quick about it. To be absolutely sure, drop off your gank ship on a nearby safespot and have your Orca alt (or some other hauler alt) be the warp in. While you are in warp, you can take the time to quickly load up ammo so that you are ready to fire upon arrival. Welcome to Eve Online. Don't expect people to be nice to you.
Buck Futz Suddenly Violence Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service 59	Posted - 2012.04.25 15:16:00 - [14] - Quote You don't have to load anything. You can have the guns pre-loaded/grouped in the Orca if you wish. (and it would be a good idea in this situation.) Just warp the pod in, board, lock and kill the target. It works until the resident miners figure out that the Orca is not friendly. Also, hybrid weapons only take 5 seconds to load...its projectiles that take 10 seconds.
Astroniomix EliteTroll 59	Posted - 2012.04.25 16:20:00 - [15] - Quote DON'T FORGET TO OVERLOAD!
Balcony Jumper Absinthe Solutions Aurora Irae 13	Posted - 2012.04.25 18:41:00 - [16] - Quote Tora Bushido wrote: Whats your catalyst fit ? http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=1619848 That KM was from last night has the fit I've been using. Some dude in a drake got himself and 2 other hulks concorded by shooting me before I actually attacked the third hulk. Looked like it was a remote repair drone mistake on their part Unfortunately I didn't get the orca and concord got me before I got on the other KMs, but the salvage was nice Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: It all goes HORRIBLY wrong from there. Turn back before it's too late ! I know it's going to be hard once my sec gets below a certain point... but I seriously can't stop doing it. It's addicting! Not to mention the hate mails and threats are fueling me.. I've even started using a scamming alt to fund my efforts... it's like after 4 years in EvE as a carebear, I've decided to break bad and now I can't stop! All I can think about is how to take it to the next level of viciousness Quote: It would require basic skilling for a mining barge but would well be worth the laugh Ya.. I don't have any mining skills, but i like the idea! I could show up in a rokh or osprey probably. Actually, using an osprey to suicide gank could be fun.. Quote: Remember that once you swap ships, you will have to quickly load up the ammo and wait 10 seconds for the loading to complete. Yea so far I haven't had to do this. I keep about 240 units of Void S loaded in the blasters. I usually heat up, then warp in... one thing I keep forgetting to do is use my blasters first instead of the point and I keep forgetting to bring my drone out Also, I'm thinking about switching to thrashers. Some EFT warrior'ing using the "buffer" setting in the DPS graph has lead me to believe that I can probably get almost as much damage from a coercer or a thrasher. The thrasher is much cheaper though. I think the catalyst still wins by 10dps from the drone.
Aebe Amraen Logolepsy 12	Posted - 2012.04.25 18:45:00 - [17] - Quote Balcony Jumper wrote: I keep about 240 units of Void S loaded in the blasters. You're wasting ammo. You only need a few rounds--closer to 24 units than 240.
Balcony Jumper Absinthe Solutions Aurora Irae 13	Posted - 2012.04.25 18:48:00 - [18] - Quote Aebe Amraen wrote: Balcony Jumper wrote: I keep about 240 units of Void S loaded in the blasters. You're wasting ammo. You only need a few rounds--closer to 24 units than 240. Oh it was 240 units total, I only have 30 units per gun, but ya I should probably cut it back a little still.
Misanth RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE 567	Posted - 2012.04.26 09:50:00 - [19] - Quote I Accidentally YourShip wrote: Balcony Jumper wrote: So far the catalyst has been working great! then again... i don't see too many good hulk fits for some reason Because miners are stupid. Ignorant and lazy, more than stupid. They usually just sit on their high horses thinking they don't have to (or shouldn't have to) understand mechanics they are not interested in. shiptoastin' liek a baws
AstarothPrime Eternal Profiteers Persona Non Gratis 17	Posted - 2012.04.26 11:55:00 - [20] - Quote Just remind me how does orca poop combat ships once again? I.
Henry Haphorn Aliastra Gallente Federation 316	Posted - 2012.04.27 00:21:00 - [21] - Quote Buck Futz wrote: You don't have to load anything. You can have the guns pre-loaded/grouped in the Orca if you wish. (and it would be a good idea in this situation.) Just warp the pod in, board, lock and kill the target. It works until the resident miners figure out that the Orca is not friendly. Also, hybrid weapons only take 5 seconds to load...its projectiles that take 10 seconds. Yeah, I completely forgot about that. But yeah, as recommended, sneak up in a barge and swap ships when you're ready. In fact, see if you can chat with them and make them feel safe. Make them think that you are friendly and then kill their barge/exhumer. Welcome to Eve Online. Don't expect people to be nice to you.
Krixtal Icefluxor Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd 610	Posted - 2012.04.27 10:35:00 - [22] - Quote Henry Haphorn wrote: [ But yeah, as recommended, sneak up in a barge and swap ships when you're ready. In fact, see if you can chat with them and make them feel safe. Make them think that you are friendly and then kill their barge/exhumer. Sounds like the thrill of a lifetime. There isn't anything left for you to do to Carebears. -áGo, kill them some more. They're like fungus or bacteria, they won't die and they won't stop. All you have to show for years of organized harassment campaigns against them is ... nothing.
Sahara Uhuru 7	Posted - 2012.04.27 12:39:00 - [23] - Quote AstarothPrime wrote: Just remind me how does orca poop combat ships once again? I. Just put those ships into the maintenance bay and later, in space, unload them as needed.
Ana K Viziam Amarr Empire 17	Posted - 2012.04.27 23:48:00 - [24] - Quote Can a Thorax gank a tanked Mackinaw? Here is my gank Thorax fit: [Thorax, Thorax Gank 01] Magnetic Field Stabilizer I Magnetic Field Stabilizer I Magnetic Field Stabilizer I Magnetic Field Stabilizer I Magnetic Field Stabilizer I [empty med slot] Tracking Computer I, Optimal Range Tracking Computer I, Optimal Range Regulated Neutron Phase Cannon I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Regulated Neutron Phase Cannon I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Regulated Neutron Phase Cannon I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Regulated Neutron Phase Cannon I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Regulated Neutron Phase Cannon I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Alpha of 990 and DPS of 326. I've been seeing some Macks that are pretty well tanked. Thoughts?
Krios Ahzek GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 782	Posted - 2012.04.28 00:37:00 - [25] - Quote Just use a catalyst. -áThough All Men Do Despise Us

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