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Manivald Kostaja
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Posted - 2009.02.26 17:00:00 -
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Well there is a can baiting drake in my favourite rookie system.
I bought an armageddon for that but how should i fit it without it being total failure?
does something like this work?
high: 7x best named pulse
med: ?
low? 2x1600mm 3xhs 3x?
rigs?
or should i avoid rigging it?
Please help me to kill that foul canbaiter!
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Cedric Diggory
Perfunctory Oleaginous Laocoon Mugwumps
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Posted - 2009.02.26 17:06:00 -
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Pulse lasers, cap injector, warp scrambler, stasis webifier, 1600 plates, damage control, energized adaptive nano membranes, heatsinks. Trimark pumps to taste.
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 Originally by: 7shining7one7
a) there are no conspiracies whatsoever
b) those who believe there are are nuts
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small chimp
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Posted - 2009.02.26 17:25:00 -
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Edited by: small chimp on 26/02/2009 17:26:58
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Manivald Kostaja
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Posted - 2009.02.26 17:27:00 -
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but geddon seems to be such a slug?
I dont think i could catch it without an ab or mwd?
I scanned that drake and it had two overdrive injectors and an ab?
Or would abaddon just be better choice?
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Cedric Diggory
Perfunctory Oleaginous Laocoon Mugwumps
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Posted - 2009.02.26 17:41:00 -
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Quote:
but geddon seems to be such a slug?
Get used to that. Amarr battleships do not move fast. Amarr battleships change crystals when something gets far away.
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Originally by: 7shining7one7
a) there are no conspiracies whatsoever
b) those who believe there are are nuts
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Miss KillSome
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.02.26 18:32:00 -
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Bigger problem than dealing enough DPS to break his tank and not die is to keep him out of docking range..If he can baits, i'm sure he will just dock when u undock in anything larger then cruiser..
Get a bumpy friend, or try to get him far outside docking range..
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Karrade Krise
Galatic P0RN Starz
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Posted - 2009.02.26 18:37:00 -
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Originally by: Miss KillSome
Bigger problem than dealing enough DPS to break his tank and not die is to keep him out of docking range..If he can baits, i'm sure he will just dock when u undock in anything larger then cruiser..
Get a bumpy friend, or try to get him far outside docking range..
Well, he already scanned him and said he fits 2 ODs in the lows and at least an AB in a mid, I'm sure the drake has point and web as well, so He will hardly have any tank so to speak.
I suggest, 24km Point, and 2 best named webs, then fit the rest for damage and tank, and you should toast him very quickly.
Originally by: CCP Whisper
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Soporo
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.02.26 18:55:00 -
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Can Baiting in a rookie system is not allowed and is petitionable. Banzor hurts worse than a ship loss.
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Aarin Wrath
Caldari
Quatidion
Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2009.02.26 19:58:00 -
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Originally by: Soporo
Can Baiting in a rookie system is not allowed and is petitionable. Banzor hurts worse than a ship loss.
Gonna 2nd that.
Can Baiting in a rooky system is a ban-able offense last I heard.
Petition the guy and watch him vanish from eve forever.
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Dyaven
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2009.02.26 20:12:00 -
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Now, there is a difference between a 1.0 system/high sec system, and rookie system. A Rookie System is the system a new character starts in. I don't know these off of the top of my head, but I believe there are 3 for each race.
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Megan Maynard
Minmatar
Out of Order
Tenth Legion
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Posted - 2009.02.26 20:16:00 -
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2 heavy neuts with heavy neut drones will make him cry. And he can't run if he's web, scrammed and has no cap.
Drakes don't usually fit cap boosters.
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Cade Morrigan
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.02.26 20:47:00 -
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Originally by: Megan Maynard
2 heavy neuts with heavy neut drones will make him cry. And he can't run if he's web, scrammed and has no cap.
Drakes don't usually fit cap boosters.
Passive tank drake with missiles needs cap? |
Megan Maynard
Minmatar
Out of Order
Tenth Legion
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Posted - 2009.02.26 21:01:00 -
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Originally by: Cade Morrigan
Originally by: Megan Maynard
2 heavy neuts with heavy neut drones will make him cry. And he can't run if he's web, scrammed and has no cap.
Drakes don't usually fit cap boosters.
Passive tank drake with missiles needs cap?
Passive tank drakes have hardeners, it also sounds like it has an ab or MWD.
So yes.
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Psiri
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Posted - 2009.02.26 21:08:00 -
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Get a ship scanner and a passive targeter to tell wether or not he's tanked to the teeth. Then fit your Geddon accordingly, a single geddon may not be enough if he's tanked, got decent skills and a properly done T2 fit + rigs.
A neut can be useful on a tanked drake, they have almost no cap regen and once hardeners are offline he'll have problems tanking you.
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TraininVain
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Posted - 2009.02.26 21:18:00 -
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Are you sure it's just him and he doesn't have say... a basilisk waiting to shield boost him?
If he's willing to engage you in a BS he probably has something up his sleeve.
My guess is he'd either have help or if he didn't he'd dock (remember, it's his choice to engage).
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Dyaven
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2009.02.26 21:30:00 -
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Step 1) Take bait in unfitted frigate.
Step 2) Dock and switch to Abaddon
Step 3) ???
Step 4) Profit
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Tandin
The Knights Templar
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2009.02.26 21:43:00 -
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Originally by: TraininVain
Are you sure it's just him and he doesn't have say... a basilisk waiting to shield boost him?
At which point the Basi is aggressed and you can insta pop him. He probably does have friends in system or nearby so you might end up needing to redock yourself.
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Tzar'rim
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Posted - 2009.02.26 21:46:00 -
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have an alt/friend take from his can as well and have him attack that alt, resetting his docking timer. Warp in your BS and proceed to fry him.
Self-proclaimed idiot
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Jemtek
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Posted - 2009.02.26 22:03:00 -
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What system you in? if its close to Amarr i will kill him for you!!!
Convo me :-)
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JeanLuc Descartes
Gallente
Silver Snake Enterprise
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Posted - 2009.02.26 22:55:00 -
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geddon with a decent pilot can break 1000 DPS barrier easy with drones
wtf planet are u w**ks living on saying he will have trouble breaking a drake tank ??
geddon will eat a full t2 only passive drake....not to meantion one thats gimped with tackle and an ab.
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Psiri
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Posted - 2009.02.26 23:09:00 -
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Originally by: JeanLuc Descartes
geddon with a decent pilot can break 1000 DPS barrier easy with drones
wtf planet are u w**ks living on saying he will have trouble breaking a drake tank ??
geddon will eat a full t2 only passive drake....not to meantion one thats gimped with tackle and an ab.
Sure, then the Drake will orbit you and start picking off your drones, suddenly you may find yourself in a somewhat uncomfortable situation. I'm assuming that the OP isn't fully skilled either.
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eXtas
Atomic Battle Penguins
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Posted - 2009.02.26 23:11:00 -
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Originally by: Psiri
Originally by: JeanLuc Descartes
geddon with a decent pilot can break 1000 DPS barrier easy with drones
wtf planet are u w**ks living on saying he will have trouble breaking a drake tank ??
geddon will eat a full t2 only passive drake....not to meantion one thats gimped with tackle and an ab.
Sure, then the Drake will orbit you and start picking off your drones, suddenly you may find yourself in a somewhat uncomfortable situation. I'm assuming that the OP isn't fully skilled either.
yes and you can make a drake tank over 1k dps with gang :P and a lot of that dps is drones that wont last long
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Psiri
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Posted - 2009.02.26 23:15:00 -
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Originally by: eXtas
yes and you can make a drake tank over 1k dps with gang :P and a lot of that dps is drones that wont last long
Just keep in mind that the Drake will have a point most likely on him, which reduces his tanking ability by a fair ammount.
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Willerslev
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Posted - 2009.02.26 23:18:00 -
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want help taking him out?
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Tarjema MaIoria
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Posted - 2009.02.26 23:36:00 -
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This guy cant be alone. I know if I were alone I sure wouldnt be flying a loltackledrake.
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Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2009.02.27 00:57:00 -
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Get a friend, take the bait in a buffer tanked cruiser. Get your friend to warp in to 50km in an Exequror and remote armour rep.
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Therlite
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Posted - 2009.02.27 01:05:00 -
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Originally by: Tarjema MaIoria
This guy cant be alone. I know if I were alone I sure wouldnt be flying a loltackledrake.
worst case scenario:
The bait has two friends.
They kill op.
Op petitions them all for can-baiting in rookie-system. 
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Gorefacer
Caldari
Resurrection
Skunk-Works
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Posted - 2009.02.27 02:42:00 -
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With a BS it shouldn't be an issue. Either he's passive tank fit with active hardners and neuts will shut him down or he'll have passive hardners and his tank won't be spectacular. Either way he won't be fast or hard to tackle and won't have any real DPS.
OR
He's fit for more than just tank and uses an AB/MWD. In this case use heavy neuts and tackle to pin him and his tank won't last long at all especially under BS firepower.
I can't help with a specific Geddon fit as I don't fly the race but my recommendation is fit tackle and heavy neuts (if utility high slots available) then full gank and best buffer tank you can fit after that.
Most Drakes use shield extenders that increase their sig radius. As long as you can pin him down and wear his cap out he'll either not have enough DPS to take you out first or will have decent DPS and his tank will fold.
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