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Fraud Crawler
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.28 21:55:00 -
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Seriously, I was hoping there'd be a couple alliances and corps that would try to seize control of Tenerifis. The thunderdome was going to be quite entertaining.
Sov is neutral everywhere, the stations are empty and allow everyone to dock. Are there no more alliances that wish to control conquerable space?
Come on guys! It has TWO sov 4 constellations! And so much arkonor!!
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Fraud Crawler
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.28 21:58:00 -
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How about a news story on login? That might attract some challengers.
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Ruze
Amarr No Applicable Corporation
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Posted - 2009.02.28 21:59:00 -
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Originally by: Fraud Crawler Seriously, I was hoping there'd be a couple alliances and corps that would try to seize control of Tenerifis. The thunderdome was going to be quite entertaining.
Sov is neutral everywhere, the stations are empty and allow everyone to dock. Are there no more alliances that wish to control conquerable space?
Come on guys! It has TWO sov 4 constellations! And so much arkonor!!
Reputation. It might just be that players are more comfortable minding their own, than expecting a group as disreputable as Goon to speak honestly.
So they wait. Give it a few weeks, and if Goon hasn't swept back in like everyone seems to expect, then you can expect some action. Cause, lets face it ... you guys aren't known for an abundance of patience.
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Dark Soldat
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.02.28 22:01:00 -
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Sure just give me 10 bil and ill do that ASAP
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Fraud Crawler
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.28 22:04:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Soldat Sure just give me 10 bil and ill do that ASAP
Mine those dyspro moons for a month and you'll pay for the towers 6 times over.
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Ruze
Amarr No Applicable Corporation
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Posted - 2009.02.28 22:25:00 -
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Originally by: Fraud Crawler
Originally by: Dark Soldat Sure just give me 10 bil and ill do that ASAP
Mine those dyspro moons for a month and you'll pay for the towers 6 times over.
True, but if you give him 10 bil up front, he can stuff it on an alt account and doesn't have to worry about you pirating the POS's and greifing all his hard work.
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Dark Soldat
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.02.28 22:28:00 -
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Originally by: Ruze
Originally by: Fraud Crawler
Originally by: Dark Soldat Sure just give me 10 bil and ill do that ASAP
Mine those dyspro moons for a month and you'll pay for the towers 6 times over.
True, but if you give him 10 bil up front, he can stuff it on an alt account and doesn't have to worry about you pirating the POS's and greifing all his hard work.
I want my iskies back, my camaro and my 8-track.
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Fraud Crawler
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.28 22:47:00 -
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Originally by: Ruze
Originally by: Fraud Crawler
Originally by: Dark Soldat Sure just give me 10 bil and ill do that ASAP
Mine those dyspro moons for a month and you'll pay for the towers 6 times over.
True, but if you give him 10 bil up front, he can stuff it on an alt account and doesn't have to worry about you pirating the POS's and greifing all his hard work.
man do you have any idea how long it takes to move capitals to tenerifis? i promise we won't attack
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SodiumCyanide
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.28 23:17:00 -
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They too busy waiting for the box set so they can kill shuttles lol.
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.28 23:19:00 -
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Edited by: An Anarchyyt on 28/02/2009 23:20:28 I don't know if anyone else is aware, but Goonswarm is busy in Delve. And Delve isn't that close to Tenerifis.
If you don't want the moons that's fine, but I guess it's your loss. Even one week of Dyspro would cover your profits and make money.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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GamerOS
Old Galactic Earth Regiment
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Posted - 2009.02.28 23:23:00 -
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Look, most people are not that big of a fan of goon fleet. many people wont trust them even if they offered all their assets.
Most will wait till they can be sure there is no hidden scheme behind it before they try themselfs
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.28 23:30:00 -
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Edited by: An Anarchyyt on 28/02/2009 23:31:04 Well you could go down with an alt and try and dock, or you could go probe a single one of those moons.
Dyspro is selling at something like 175K per unit. 100 units per hour (assuming abundance one), 2400 per day. That is 420million ISK per day. Hold it for even seven days and you just made 2.9bil ISK for very little work. Hold it for a month and you've made 11.7bil ISK for roughly a days worth of work.
Moon Harvester IIs are seeded. That means that Dypsro price will only fall after M10.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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Darth Satanicus
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Posted - 2009.02.28 23:36:00 -
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Originally by: An Anarchyyt Edited by: An Anarchyyt on 28/02/2009 23:20:28 I don't know if anyone else is aware, but Goonswarm is busy in Delve. And Delve isn't that close to Tenerifis.
If you don't want the moons that's fine, but I guess it's your loss. Even one week of Dyspro would cover your profits and make money.
All well and good, but, quoted yesterday from an old alliance guy that I know: "Goons are asking for 400mill payment for alliance plus 100 mill per corp in said alliance and 4 mill per member in each corp for 'rent' on the system we inhabit, and the goons don't even have sov here or any claim to this area at all".
Bit steep if you ask me and are Goons getting short on tenants these days?
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Dark Soldat
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.02.28 23:38:00 -
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derailed thread is derailed o7
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.28 23:43:00 -
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Originally by: Darth Satanicus
Originally by: An Anarchyyt Edited by: An Anarchyyt on 28/02/2009 23:20:28 I don't know if anyone else is aware, but Goonswarm is busy in Delve. And Delve isn't that close to Tenerifis.
If you don't want the moons that's fine, but I guess it's your loss. Even one week of Dyspro would cover your profits and make money.
All well and good, but, quoted yesterday from an old alliance guy that I know: "Goons are asking for 400mill payment for alliance plus 100 mill per corp in said alliance and 4 mill per member in each corp for 'rent' on the system we inhabit, and the goons don't even have sov here or any claim to this area at all".
Bit steep if you ask me and are Goons getting short on tenants these days?
I'm gonna let you in on a secret, if you are asked for money from any member of Goonswarm you are getting scammed. You are not talking to a director (usually), and you are not entering into any official discussion.
Goons live in Delve now.
Look at how much it would take a JDC V carrier to even get back to Tenerifis. That seems like a huge amount of work to get back to there for no good reason, that will compromise our position in Delve currently, and will not provide any real benefit.
People always complain about the amount of Dypsro, and that t he large alliances have a monopoly on it. We are now making these moons available to the small guy, and anyone who wants to claim them. Even if we did go back and blow up the pos after a week, you would still be over 2 bil richer.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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Darth Satanicus
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Posted - 2009.02.28 23:45:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Soldat derailed thread is derailed o7
Not really, they obviously want people in tenerifis so its prolly for the same motives as they are showing my buddy.
Get corps in, make sure they are comfortable, then BAAMM!!! Give them the cheque.
Honestly, if you found a nice little slice of un-taken space that would net your corp a small fortune for little effort, would you honestly be trying to pass it on to others?
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.28 23:48:00 -
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Originally by: Darth Satanicus Honestly, if you found a nice little slice of un-taken space that would net your corp a small fortune for little effort, would you honestly be trying to pass it on to others?
If you've ever been to Delve, you'd know no other region even comes close.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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Korizan
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Posted - 2009.02.28 23:50:00 -
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You will have to forgive me but I could not help but laugh a little @ this.
GOONS were always one of the biggest talkers about the evil BOB empire who lived in Delve. Isn't it a bit ironic that GOONS have rushed in to take over Delve now that BOB is gone ?
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.28 23:51:00 -
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Originally by: Korizan You will have to forgive me but I could not help but laugh a little @ this.
GOONS were always one of the biggest talkers about the evil BOB empire who lived in Delve. Isn't it a bit ironic that GOONS have rushed in to take over Delve now that BOB is gone ?
You mean...is it ironic that the alliance that has been fighting Kenny for two and a half years is killing them and taking over their space? I don't think that's irony, I think that's called "winning."
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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Dark Soldat
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.02.28 23:56:00 -
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its called metagaming at its best.
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SodiumCyanide
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.28 23:58:00 -
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Edited by: SodiumCyanide on 28/02/2009 23:58:17 I honestly don't think the pubbies understand that the war was and is still going. There was no peace and for two years straight, hostilities had not stopped.
I also think they do not understand the vast distance between our old space and Delve, hell, some people lost everything when they moved because there is no way to get back to it without a 60 jump detour into empire.
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Darwin's Market
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Posted - 2009.03.01 00:45:00 -
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Empire folk as so much fail I don't know where to begin.
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Fraud Crawler
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.01 02:14:00 -
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I don't know what I can do to get people to take Tenerifis. It's free space!
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Rotnac
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.01 02:19:00 -
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Originally by: SodiumCyanide Edited by: SodiumCyanide on 28/02/2009 23:58:17 I honestly don't think the pubbies understand that the war was and is still going. There was no peace and for two years straight, hostilities had not stopped.
I also think they do not understand the vast distance between our old space and Delve, hell, some people lost everything when they moved because there is no way to get back to it without a 60 jump detour into empire.
I went on two 6 hour convoys through empire to get my stuff out - I think we entertained some folks in Amarr as we ran through there screaming. I am not returning. No one is returning. Delve is our home. Tenerifis/Detorid/Feythabolis is merely some other region now.
I will repeat that: DELVE IS OUR HOME. It is a way better region than our old ones combined, and we get to utterly destroy our eternal enemies in the process. I figure if we somehow lose, we'll go back to Syndicate.
This circumstance is a great way for everyone - especially little guys - to get in on moon mining and owning 0.0 space. Go out there, take moons! The income is obscene. Even if AAA steamrolls you, you'll still have a good profit, in part because they are being slower about their takeover of our undefended space than our takeover of Delve. Check it out with an alt if nothing else. Hell, I'm excited about all this - it might mean some fresh new 0.0 corps, instead of all the same old ones all the time.
And to the guy talking about the renters - we don't rent. We don't have pets. We have close allies, and they simply own space near us/live in our space. They do so not based on payment, but on mutual trust and appreciation.
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James Duar
Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.01 02:52:00 -
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I can't believe we can't even GIVE away space.
Especially for the number of people claiming that we are losing it all on CAOD.
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Darth Satanicus
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Posted - 2009.03.01 02:57:00 -
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Edited by: Darth Satanicus on 01/03/2009 02:59:05
Originally by: Rotnac
And to the guy talking about the renters - we don't rent. We don't have pets. We have close allies, and they simply own space near us/live in our space. They do so not based on payment, but on mutual trust and appreciation.
oh good timing, my buddy was speaking to one of the goon leader type guys earlier and he sorta confirmed the above.
So I guess the 'landlord' was just trying to scam my buddy Its all been cleared up now anyway.
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