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Lunas Feelgood Gallente S.A.S Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.03.02 22:38:00 - [91] Originally by: Vladic Ka Vlads 10 step guide to all that has happened to Kenith. Step 1: Create the biggest blob the game has ever seen and call it Max Damage. Step 2: Roam the map annoying other huge blobs of people. Step 3: Get dented when you start losing to said blobs. Step 4: Ally with old enemies to make bigger blob and still lose to said blobs. Step 5: Dont listen to long term members complaining that you are watered down. Step 6: Long term member disbands alliance. Step 7: Put up small token defence at start of home systems invasion. Step 8: Complain on forums about said blobs. Even if you are the originators of the tactic Step 9: ?????? Step 10: The opposite of profit. So true Originally by: Jade Constantine You can't expect seasoned Eve players with an awareness of history Originally by: BOB "I played EVE for 5 years and all I got left is crappy forum alts"..
Keflin Geard Gallente Black Nova Corp KenZoku	Posted - 2009.03.02 22:50:00 - [92] Originally by: Viscount Prawn Originally by: Keflin Geard ffs edit what you write before you start calling people stupid. And - how many towers would Goons have managed to kill in delve if Agamar hadnÆt dissolved the alliance and reset sov. 0 Exactly û Next. How would the first war have gone if cynojammers had been nerfed? How would the war before that have gone if Titans had retained the ability to fire DDs through cynos? What would have happened in the BoB/ASCN war if the latter hadn't been a bunch of carebears? Where would goons be if D2 and co. hadn't screwed up the sov transfer in XZH back in 2006? You can hurf about counterfactuals till the cows come home, but it doesn't change a thing, and the fact that you're still bitter about being weakened by espionage and deception is delicious. I can't blame you for sticking your fingers in your ears and conjuring up hypothetical scenarios, though, because your imagination is about the only place where your alliance is still relevant. I can't quite figure out why I am having a hard time taking you seriously.
An Anarchyyt Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.02 22:59:00 - [93] Originally by: Keflin Geard I can't quite figure out why I am having a hard time taking you seriously. Probably because you live in some fantasy land where "what-ifs" matter. Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
Viscount Prawn Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.02 23:01:00 - [94] Originally by: Keflin Geard I can't quite figure out why I am having a hard time taking you seriously. Because you haven't learned a damn thing.
Lunas Feelgood Gallente S.A.S Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.03.02 23:04:00 - [95] Originally by: Keflin Geard Originally by: Viscount Prawn Originally by: Keflin Geard ffs edit what you write before you start calling people stupid. And - how many towers would Goons have managed to kill in delve if Agamar hadnÆt dissolved the alliance and reset sov. 0 Exactly û Next. How would the first war have gone if cynojammers had been nerfed? How would the war before that have gone if Titans had retained the ability to fire DDs through cynos? What would have happened in the BoB/ASCN war if the latter hadn't been a bunch of carebears? Where would goons be if D2 and co. hadn't screwed up the sov transfer in XZH back in 2006? You can hurf about counterfactuals till the cows come home, but it doesn't change a thing, and the fact that you're still bitter about being weakened by espionage and deception is delicious. I can't blame you for sticking your fingers in your ears and conjuring up hypothetical scenarios, though, because your imagination is about the only place where your alliance is still relevant. I can't quite figure out why I am having a hard time taking you seriously. I vote Keflin Geard for best bobie poster this year. Ok he do seem to be the only one atm since every1 els is on the alts. Even though Keflin, you very misguided an you seem to still belive the propaganda spouting crap you leaders is makign up to hide there own nakedness. You still got my respect buddy. So I aplau every other CAOD poster dont be to mean on keflin lets not scare him away plz.. love and kisses Originally by: Jade Constantine You can't expect seasoned Eve players with an awareness of history Originally by: BOB "I played EVE for 5 years and all I got left is crappy forum alts"..
Scruffy Jed Gallente Rho Holding Corp GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.02 23:14:00 - [96] Originally by: Scruffy Jed Edited by: Scruffy Jed on 02/03/2009 13:31:15 Edited by: Scruffy Jed on 02/03/2009 13:30:37 Originally by: FinrodFelagund Amazing how much damage a single bob director can do. People complaining that we wouldn't have been able to do this without the disbanding of the BoB alliance, or at least done it so quickly, are 100% correct. The important fact to remember though is that Kenzoku's POS' were back to claiming sov within two days of the event. These towers were already in-place in each system. We and our allies, on the other hand, had to evacuate our personal and alliance assets within days, establish a presence in Delve and start dropping towers from scratch. The fact of the matter is that Kenzoku and the GKC still had a solid advantage over us and our allies, an advantage they could not maintain. Our complete dominance over all TZs (thanks mostly to our awesome allies) and laughable tactical decisions by the Kenzoku leadership completely shattered our enemy's already weakened resolve. It's also important to remember that the events leading to BoB's disbanding were possible due to BoB's poor organisation and legitimate game mechanics. No one complained when BoB used a spy to drop GS sov in DG-, as it was a good example of meta-gaming (even though a poor tactical decision), just as our disbanding of the BoB alliance was. The point of all this is that Kenzoku's failure to defend 'Fortress Delve' is a result of their own mediocrity. They still had the massive advantage of existing POS infrastructure, something we and our allies did not. possess. Unfortunately for Kenzoku, they have proved themselves to be incapable of any significant defence without cyno jammers and jump bridges. That's really all there is to it. Quoting this for page 4, it seems that the Kenzoku and GKC posters itt missed it.
Thomina Yorke Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.02 23:32:00 - [97] exactly. bob had the home field advantage. they had 27 titans and 230 capitals ready to go. they had the towers down, they had resources right there ready to go. the ONLY difference between BoB pre-Feb 5 and Kenny post-Feb 5 was the sov level. and the only think Sov 3 gives you is cyno jammers and jump bridges. with the removal of just TWO POS structures, kenny shattered. you cant blame this on spies, or on metagaming, or on anything. BoB was rotten from the core. all hargoth did was flick the lights on and off, and apparently that phased BoB so hard that they didn't know what the **** to do and killed themselves. nobody to blame but yourselves.
Reverand Pastor Caldari DEATHFUNK Doctrine.	Posted - 2009.03.02 23:37:00 - [98] The Kenzoku tactic does seem a little strange. If they put up SOME resistance who knows what couldve happened. By sitting in station and waitng for jebus and tom cruise to save them they missed tons of e-props for fighting out tooth and nail for there home. Sad way to go but meh Sister Sister is running a marathon so all is not lost...
w00tle Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.03 02:04:00 - [99] Even if GKC did fight back we would have just stomped them harder so it wouldn't make a different vOv
Ayman Zawahiri Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.03 04:01:00 - [100] Edited by: Ayman Zawahiri on 03/03/2009 04:03:06 Originally by: Keflin Geard Edited by: Keflin Geard on 02/03/2009 20:52:10 Originally by: Lunas Feelgood Originally by: Keflin Geard Why this sudden fawning need by goons for respect? They never needed or deserved it before - nothing has changed on that score. Everything Goons have achieved in delve was made possible by Agamar. You clearly are stupide artn you? But atleats you had the balls to come out with you main. So respect for you.. However It doesnt make up for you clearly lack of intelligence. Do you really belive that crap you just posted? If you do. Well then im sorry to say I clearly overestimated the bob community average IQ lvl ffs edit what you write before you start calling people stupid. And - how many towers would Goons have managed to kill in delve if Agamar hadnÆt dissolved the alliance and reset sov. 0 Exactly û Next. What if..the axis were the allies in WW2??? Woa man let's deal in pure hypotheticals about everything! The fact remains that Goonswarm and our fantastic allies decimated your so-called "elite pvp" corp that used meta gaming and certain, shall we say, god mode equivalent "outside" help in maintaining your status in game. All of which you whine about now hypocritically. In the last few days a few goons have sat down and tallied total lost assets by BOB/RKZ or whatever clown boat name you want to call yourselves. It totaled well over 700 billion to 1 trillion in isk lost with probably a lot more in unrecoverable assets, POS mods, etc.. that nobody will ever sit down and figure out the worth of. Now convert that into real life cash from time cards and that's easily over $50,000. The fact that GS denied you your precious space and made your buddies lose an immense amount of in game isk that is convertible to actual real world value brings a smile to my face everyday. So by all means keep raging there your bitter tears and whining is so so sweet.
Ayman Zawahiri Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.03 04:07:00 - [101] Edited by: Ayman Zawahiri on 03/03/2009 04:07:48 Originally by: Reverand Pastor The Kenzoku tactic does seem a little strange. If they put up SOME resistance who knows what couldve happened. By sitting in station and waitng for jebus and tom cruise to save them they missed tons of e-props for fighting out tooth and nail for there home. Sad way to go but meh Sister Sister is running a marathon so all is not lost... They may have been waiting for certain "individuals" to step up and save them through judicious use of the petition button.
Jukhta Mein Minmatar Thunderbolts	Posted - 2009.03.03 04:49:00 - [102] What do Goon workers really gain from all this?
Ayman Zawahiri Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.03 04:51:00 - [103] Edited by: Ayman Zawahiri on 03/03/2009 04:51:44 Originally by: Jukhta Mein What do Goon workers really gain from all this? The realization of a dream. An islamic homeland free from the shackles of colonialism.
Kortat Amarr Setenta Corp	Posted - 2009.03.03 08:35:00 - [104] Originally by: Helen Originally by: Kortat you goons havent won yet! how much did u loose in your own region ??? can we have some stats... stations posses alies etc... id say u lost bout same if notmore as you lost way more space! Kortat Setenta Corp from memory this runs like a history of fail ex tribal souls ex storm armada ex combined planetary union ex invictus. ex mass ex dominatus pashamtis ex vanguard congratulations I don't think any other corp from 2005 could fail so much and yet still exist. haha says a caracter sold on ebay AND YES i have the proofs i know the real owner :P so
Wingshard Caldari Ikazuchi and Raikou Syndicate	Posted - 2009.03.03 13:25:00 - [105] Originally by: Thomina Yorke exactly. bob had the home field advantage. they had 27 titans and 230 capitals ready to go. they had the towers down, they had resources right there ready to go. the ONLY difference between BoB pre-Feb 5 and Kenny post-Feb 5 was the sov level. and the only think Sov 3 gives you is cyno jammers and jump bridges. with the removal of just TWO POS structures, kenny shattered. you cant blame this on spies, or on metagaming, or on anything. BoB was rotten from the core. all hargoth did was flick the lights on and off, and apparently that phased BoB so hard that they didn't know what the **** to do and killed themselves. nobody to blame but yourselves. acctualy there is a single one. that is exbob continuesly trying to break through cynojammed systems before or in other words pos warfare. before their last defense in delve they evicted space. maybe put up some defense here and there but didnt got into pos shooting. now they did it consequent for several month and just as by goonswarm before omist, feythabolis...hey there you did rise up in the last campaign and for the other entitys aswell if you think of removing the entitys POS WISE from fountain and querious FIX- yeah i know bruce... but well pl didnt went into pos bashing except some small ones that time either and tim hortons was stil in exbob`s hands so ;) it just took their life out of it. regarding the recent event: for goonswarm it was the chance to win and peoples fighting spirit was prolly never that high or wont ever be after that and you can be more than sure that everyone who did know it also had the will to put his hours in pos warfare. not to mention with all the help aiding them again even across the map without "meatshields" this time. on the sameway it worked on a downside for exbob seeing themselves onthe most likely position to loose everything and even going into pos warfare for it? after several month lasting pos warfare in the north that got aborted and had not real outcome? i bet a lot of people said screw it. also: all know that they didnt went into "MAX" with their full numbers and relied a lot on other alliances even through understandable since today its a lot about numbers ;) it is stil a fact that exBoB and its activity is long gone. the people who fought those pos wars over month now are also tired of it and those people that took a break are not returning fast enough to enable them to keep up with it aswell as rats leaving the ship they see sinking ;). but since i cant read everybodys mind nore can fortell the future or know all of the past i might be proofen wrong on the last part. but what i can surely say is that aslong the pos warfare stays as it is, we wont see any big campaigns anymore in the near future. not to mention bob was the leading entity in continues fights over space which made the political landscape move... but than again its up to the current entitys to show their guts now and than without just hiding with titans under their cynojammed systems and waiting for the enemy to try to take a system while flaming exbob continuesly of doing so ;)
Kanoubi Amarr Rytiri Lva R.U.R.	Posted - 2009.03.03 14:54:00 - [106] Originally by: Helen Originally by: Kortat you goons havent won yet! how much did u loose in your own region ??? can we have some stats... stations posses alies etc... id say u lost bout same if notmore as you lost way more space! Kortat Setenta Corp from memory this runs like a history of fail ex tribal souls ex storm armada ex combined planetary union ex invictus. ex mass ex dominatus pashamtis ex vanguard congratulations I don't think any other corp from 2005 could fail so much and yet still exist. also from memory : Darkstar1 ex ASCN Run to empire way before the war with BoB ended. Remember your history background first before posting.
Yorda Minmatar Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.03 14:56:00 - [107] Edited by: Yorda on 03/03/2009 14:57:10 Edited by: Yorda on 03/03/2009 14:56:50 Originally by: Jukhta Mein What do Goon workers really gain from all this? You could say this is as personal as it gets, we get to live on top of Bob's grave. Please resist the urge to flame - Mitnal
Montasque Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.03 14:57:00 - [108] Originally by: Jukhta Mein What do Goon workers really gain from all this? AN OFFICER SPAWN FOR EVERYONE!
Brobuck Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.03 14:59:00 - [109] Originally by: Kanoubi also from memory : Remember your history background first before posting. You should try to remember Eve history. Whatever happened to MC, the overblown paper tiger that turned against their brosefs?
john roe Caldari Children of Gjallarhorn	Posted - 2009.03.03 15:20:00 - [110] Originally by: FinrodFelagund Amazing how much damage a single bob director can do. QFT
Brobuck Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.03 15:40:00 - [111] Originally by: john roe Originally by: FinrodFelagund Amazing how much damage a single bob director can do. QFT Almost as much as an entire alliance made up of failed alliance leaders, who refuse to undock to defend their space. Remember when Bob claimed it wasn't the titans and cynojammers that made delve unconquerable? Well, they had a chance to prove it and instead proved that they don't have any leadership or courage. How honourable is it that their only hope was for against an authority to show up? How sad is it that -a- is so inept that they not only couldn't abort an undefended baby titan, but spent their time towering moons and running plex while their allies begged for help. I don't know how many air conditioners molly is busy with, but you would think he could at least break out a titan and, er, well, I'm sure he has other ships to fly, or other titan pilots who are willing to give him their hull. In any case, do something, this strategy of wait six months just doesn't sound like something an elite pvp alliance would do. Instead, the only war being fought is here on CAOD. Kengoku had a chance to fight for delve, but instead of fighting, they hide in station like frightened women under siege. I wonder though, how many of their directors have managed to get their assets out? How many actually listened to the instructions to put their stuff in pr-, and how many knew better, and have already got their stuff in Jita or elsewhere? I almost feel sorry for those who got recruited into tafkab from destroyed alliances, they've seen this sequence of events before, and this time, nobody (well, maybe -a- will, but g/l) will be there to sort through the refuse.
john roe Caldari Children of Gjallarhorn	Posted - 2009.03.03 16:15:00 - [112] i agree with you. eve has changed from a quite good game into cesspool of r3tard3d, isk farming, isk selling halfwits, killing this game, along with ccp ofc, on a regular daily basis. shame.
Reapeat Offender Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.03 20:07:00 - [113] To put Kenny's level of effort in defending their space into perspective, Blood Raider NPC's have killed more Goonswarm members in PR-8CA than Kenny has the past 2+ weeks. PR-8CA being the location where nearly all of Kenny's alliance level assets and cap fleet are located and which we've been camping for 2.5 weeks straight now. That's right, a downtime to downtime bubble camp in their main staging system that Kenny has been unable to break for nearly 3 weeks now. We are rolling over their space and they will not undock to defend it.
Anahid Brutus Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.03 20:16:00 - [114] Originally by: john roe i agree with you. eve has changed from a quite good game into cesspool of r3tard3d, isk farming, isk selling halfwits, killing this game, along with ccp ofc, on a regular daily basis. shame. does nothing but farming 6/10 plexes for 1 year in delve buys officer fit mothership while its still practically invincible quits the second it becomes killable
Anahid Brutus Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.03 20:17:00 - [115] 0wned.....
john roe Caldari Children of Gjallarhorn	Posted - 2009.03.03 20:51:00 - [116] Edited by: john roe on 03/03/2009 20:52:09 Originally by: Anahid Brutus Originally by: john roe i agree with you. eve has changed from a quite good game into cesspool of r3tard3d, isk farming, isk selling halfwits, killing this game, along with ccp ofc, on a regular daily basis. shame. does nothing but farming 6/10 plexes for 1 year in delve kills...and that's only 1 alt. buys officer fit mothership while its still practically invincible officer fitted...bs o.0 yes, super caps should always use T1 goons approved fittings. com'on. officers fits ARE designed to be use on super caps. and no. dian's proved that Impossible Is in fact Possible :] quits the second it becomes killable - when you spend more time fighting bugs, settings, game mechanics and interface issues than fighting your adversary... it's a sign : give up.
john roe Caldari Children of Gjallarhorn	Posted - 2009.03.03 20:53:00 - [117] Originally by: Anahid Brutus 0wned..... dont think so, buddy. nice try thou.
Anahid Brutus Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.03 20:55:00 - [118] Originally by: john roe Edited by: john roe on 03/03/2009 20:52:09 Originally by: Anahid Brutus Originally by: john roe i agree with you. eve has changed from a quite good game into cesspool of r3tard3d, isk farming, isk selling halfwits, killing this game, along with ccp ofc, on a regular daily basis. shame. does nothing but farming 6/10 plexes for 1 year in delve kills...and that's only 1 alt. buys officer fit mothership while its still practically invincible officer fitted...bs o.0 yes, super caps should always use T1 goons approved fittings. com'on. officers fits ARE designed to be use on super caps. and no. dian's proved that Impossible Is in fact Possible :] quits the second it becomes killable - when you spend more time fighting bugs, settings, game mechanics and interface issues than fighting your adversary... it's a sign : give up. isk farmers such as nync has more kills on his freighter alts and the point about officer fit was that t2 fits werent really that broken, but officer ones most definitely were since they could kill dictors so easily.
john roe Caldari Children of Gjallarhorn	Posted - 2009.03.03 21:06:00 - [119] Originally by: Anahid Brutus Originally by: john roe Edited by: john roe on 03/03/2009 20:52:09 Originally by: Anahid Brutus Originally by: john roe i agree with you. eve has changed from a quite good game into cesspool of r3tard3d, isk farming, isk selling halfwits, killing this game, along with ccp ofc, on a regular daily basis. shame. does nothing but farming 6/10 plexes for 1 year in delve kills...and that's only 1 alt. buys officer fit mothership while its still practically invincible officer fitted...bs o.0 yes, super caps should always use T1 goons approved fittings. com'on. officers fits ARE designed to be use on super caps. and no. dian's proved that Impossible Is in fact Possible :] quits the second it becomes killable - when you spend more time fighting bugs, settings, game mechanics and interface issues than fighting your adversary... it's a sign : give up. isk farmers such as nync has more kills on his freighter alts - very good. could use a link or two. would you mind to paste one here? and the point about officer fit was that t2 fits werent really that broken, but officer ones most definitely were since they could kill dictors so easily. - aha. so you are actualy complaining that 15-20 Billions of isk worth ship was able to kill... 15-20 Ms of isk worth ship? you dont buy 15B worth ship to die from some stupid dictor, mate. you buy it to cause havok of immense proportions. i know you are a speed fun, we had some convos before ingame, but com'on. there was nothing better than Tobias tackling fit, ha? :] peace
An Anarchyyt Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.03 21:19:00 - [120] I don't see how you could be fighting bugs when it appears you are fighting how to properly format a post. Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person

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