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101110101101
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Posted - 2004.08.11 18:50:00 -
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That's right, give NPC's Drones appropriate for their size, class, race, etc.
NPC's should also have some sense of tactical use of drones such as get in close and release or release as a last resort and the like.
NPC's should be made to behave more human-like with Cap's to worry about and Drones to worry about and missiles to fire and the like - NPC's should also work in teams more effectively.
NPC's are far too easy to kite but the solution was not to give them infinite caps so please give NPC's more luv'in - thanks. |
101110101101
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Posted - 2004.08.11 18:50:00 -
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That's right, give NPC's Drones appropriate for their size, class, race, etc.
NPC's should also have some sense of tactical use of drones such as get in close and release or release as a last resort and the like.
NPC's should be made to behave more human-like with Cap's to worry about and Drones to worry about and missiles to fire and the like - NPC's should also work in teams more effectively.
NPC's are far too easy to kite but the solution was not to give them infinite caps so please give NPC's more luv'in - thanks. |
Ebedar
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Posted - 2004.08.11 18:54:00 -
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I remember asking TomB about this (for Serpentis rats) when the NPCs first started being balanced several months ago.
He said that it was planned for the distant future and that it would be dependent on other things such as lag issues being cleared first.
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Ebedar
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Posted - 2004.08.11 18:54:00 -
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I remember asking TomB about this (for Serpentis rats) when the NPCs first started being balanced several months ago.
He said that it was planned for the distant future and that it would be dependent on other things such as lag issues being cleared first.
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2004.08.11 19:01:00 -
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/me rubs hands... looting all those drones would be cool \o/
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2004.08.11 19:01:00 -
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/me rubs hands... looting all those drones would be cool \o/
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CyberRaver
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Posted - 2004.08.11 19:29:00 -
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the lag entering the belt would not
but if thats fixed then im all for it
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CyberRaver
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Posted - 2004.08.11 19:29:00 -
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the lag entering the belt would not
but if thats fixed then im all for it
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Rodge
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Posted - 2004.08.11 20:08:00 -
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If TomB says he wants to concentrate on the lag issues first, then I don't mind waiting longer for NPCs to have drones.
[ 2005.04.17 00:34:30 ] Nagilam > u better leave Rodge, u will not gank any1 else 2nite......
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Rodge
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Posted - 2004.08.11 20:08:00 -
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If TomB says he wants to concentrate on the lag issues first, then I don't mind waiting longer for NPCs to have drones.
[ 2005.04.17 00:34:30 ] Nagilam > u better leave Rodge, u will not gank any1 else 2nite......
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Plasmatique
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Posted - 2004.08.11 20:13:00 -
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NPC's have:
infinite cap
infinite ammo
insta-lock
unlimited targeting range
I can almost imagine if NPC's used drones too....it makes me shudder and gives me nightmares
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Proud Owner of a Navy Issue Raven
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Plasmatique
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Posted - 2004.08.11 20:13:00 -
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NPC's have:
infinite cap
infinite ammo
insta-lock
unlimited targeting range
I can almost imagine if NPC's used drones too....it makes me shudder and gives me nightmares
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Proud Owner of a Navy Issue Raven
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101110101101
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Posted - 2004.08.11 20:43:00 -
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 Originally by: Plasmatique
NPC's have:
infinite cap
infinite ammo
insta-lock
unlimited targeting range
I can almost imagine if NPC's used drones too....it makes me shudder and gives me nightmares
NPC's are also way too easy to kill ! Give me a challenge ! Okay so I do Agent kill missions so give Agent Kill Mission NPC's the darned drones ! Thx. |
101110101101
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Posted - 2004.08.11 20:43:00 -
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Originally by: Plasmatique
NPC's have:
infinite cap
infinite ammo
insta-lock
unlimited targeting range
I can almost imagine if NPC's used drones too....it makes me shudder and gives me nightmares
NPC's are also way too easy to kill ! Give me a challenge ! Okay so I do Agent kill missions so give Agent Kill Mission NPC's the darned drones ! Thx. |
Vayin Lianocen
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Posted - 2004.08.11 21:24:00 -
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Drones means more lag and they wont increase difficulty. People will just put on a smartbomb to counter them.
Or they might start farming drones, just kill the dronecarrier and pickup the drones with an indy, more free minerals.
The infinite cap/ammo/locking range had more to do with serverload, or so i've been told, not certain about that.
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Vayin Lianocen
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Posted - 2004.08.11 21:24:00 -
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Drones means more lag and they wont increase difficulty. People will just put on a smartbomb to counter them.
Or they might start farming drones, just kill the dronecarrier and pickup the drones with an indy, more free minerals.
The infinite cap/ammo/locking range had more to do with serverload, or so i've been told, not certain about that.
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SwitchBl4d3
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Posted - 2004.08.11 21:45:00 -
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I swear after patch Angel BS had drones briefly. the same time as the beach balls in belts so prolly a bug.
"Teh lord of Nonni"
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SwitchBl4d3
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Posted - 2004.08.11 21:45:00 -
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I swear after patch Angel BS had drones briefly. the same time as the beach balls in belts so prolly a bug.
"Teh lord of Nonni"
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Skelator
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Posted - 2004.08.11 23:09:00 -
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Edited by: Skelator on 11/08/2004 23:11:01
Originally by: 101110101101
Originally by: Plasmatique
NPC's have:
infinite cap
infinite ammo
insta-lock
unlimited targeting range
I can almost imagine if NPC's used drones too....it makes me shudder and gives me nightmares
NPC's are also way too easy to kill ! Give me a challenge ! Okay so I do Agent kill missions so give Agent Kill Mission NPC's the darned drones ! Thx.
LOL well if you wouldnt spend all you time docked in station in a 0.6 you could go to a lower security area and try those RATS!
Yes we saw you in station for 2 hours last night 
They have us Surrounded again.. the Poor Bastards |
Skelator
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Posted - 2004.08.11 23:09:00 -
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Edited by: Skelator on 11/08/2004 23:11:01
Originally by: 101110101101
Originally by: Plasmatique
NPC's have:
infinite cap
infinite ammo
insta-lock
unlimited targeting range
I can almost imagine if NPC's used drones too....it makes me shudder and gives me nightmares
NPC's are also way too easy to kill ! Give me a challenge ! Okay so I do Agent kill missions so give Agent Kill Mission NPC's the darned drones ! Thx.
LOL well if you wouldnt spend all you time docked in station in a 0.6 you could go to a lower security area and try those RATS!
Yes we saw you in station for 2 hours last night
They have us Surrounded again.. the Poor Bastards |
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Ris Dnalor
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Posted - 2004.08.11 23:29:00 -
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lagfest, but otherwise a great idea
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Ris Dnalor
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Posted - 2004.08.11 23:29:00 -
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lagfest, but otherwise a great idea
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Ulendar
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Posted - 2004.08.11 23:36:00 -
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i dunno if you ever noticed but the NPC in EVE are an extreemly dumb breed of fodder...
They shiledboost when shield at 100%, they target from way outside of their range, they are totally oblivious to danger...battlehship? HAH my uber reaper will pwn it! Once they got you locked the keep firing nomatter if they are hitting you are not...
The only way to make NPC tough is to make them cheat...if you give them drones i think it will lagg and they will not use them in a smart way..they will just deploy them from miles away and start aproaching you...
Same way they just keep spamming missiles when your out of range..same way they keep firing when your out of range. They will pop out there drones 80km away so you get a good change to blow a couple torps into them and pop the drones...what then? they keep deploying drones? Ouch lagoramma :s
I think this would just cause lag and not make the PVE more intresting...a smarter AI would make the PVE more intresting imho
Originally by: cashman
It's time for Eris to get a clue. CCP should make a statement about this.
It's the exact same things as what Zombie did, you may not attack in "safe-areas" (empire/within sentry range) without loosing your ship.
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Ulendar
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Posted - 2004.08.11 23:36:00 -
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i dunno if you ever noticed but the NPC in EVE are an extreemly dumb breed of fodder...
They shiledboost when shield at 100%, they target from way outside of their range, they are totally oblivious to danger...battlehship? HAH my uber reaper will pwn it! Once they got you locked the keep firing nomatter if they are hitting you are not...
The only way to make NPC tough is to make them cheat...if you give them drones i think it will lagg and they will not use them in a smart way..they will just deploy them from miles away and start aproaching you...
Same way they just keep spamming missiles when your out of range..same way they keep firing when your out of range. They will pop out there drones 80km away so you get a good change to blow a couple torps into them and pop the drones...what then? they keep deploying drones? Ouch lagoramma :s
I think this would just cause lag and not make the PVE more intresting...a smarter AI would make the PVE more intresting imho
Originally by: cashman
It's time for Eris to get a clue. CCP should make a statement about this.
It's the exact same things as what Zombie did, you may not attack in "safe-areas" (empire/within sentry range) without loosing your ship.
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Dawg
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Posted - 2004.08.13 06:08:00 -
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Originally by: SwitchBl4d3
I swear after patch Angel BS had drones briefly. the same time as the beach balls in belts so prolly a bug.
Same here, after the patch I saw a Blood cruiser with 4 warriors orbiting it. No one else insystem and no loot cans nearby either.
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Dawg
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Posted - 2004.08.13 06:08:00 -
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Originally by: SwitchBl4d3
I swear after patch Angel BS had drones briefly. the same time as the beach balls in belts so prolly a bug.
Same here, after the patch I saw a Blood cruiser with 4 warriors orbiting it. No one else insystem and no loot cans nearby either.
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