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Vyivra
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Posted - 2009.03.07 00:11:00 -
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which system in 0.5 or above has the very best refined mineral prices?
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Lord Zarcam
Amarr
Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2009.03.07 00:20:00 -
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I'm new, but I've been here long enough to know that no one will ever answer that question......... truthfully.
The best answer you will get is "research".
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Dennmoth Ferdier
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Posted - 2009.03.07 00:37:00 -
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Words of wisdom, but this question is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...*yawn*...aaaaaaaaaay too general to give a good answer. Prices change all the time, people switch places, orders move with them, and I doubt anyone sees all the orders on all the minerals all the time.
And having said that, the first guy who links eve-central gets to lick my toes.
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Vyivra
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Posted - 2009.03.07 00:52:00 -
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I know about eve central but what I have noticed is that people who sell minerals do not take into consideration that if a player wants to 1000000 Units of mexallon the price should be greatly reduced versus buying 1000 units where you should expect retail prices. The problem I have is in finding reasonable bulk prices which at the moment seems impossible. How am I supposed to manufature ships or modules if people are selling minerals bulk and non bulk at mostly inflated prices?
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Breaker77
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Posted - 2009.03.07 01:19:00 -
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 Originally by: Vyivra
How am I supposed to manufature ships or modules if people are selling minerals bulk and non bulk at mostly inflated prices?
Then you are doing it wrong!!
Research and find other items that ARE profitable. It takes a little work and a time, but the rewards are great.
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Dennmoth Ferdier
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Posted - 2009.03.07 01:20:00 -
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Easy, you adjust your ship prices accordingly. The people who mine their minerals themselves and think they are free will crash your income, and you will make little to no profit though. That's why building bulks of t1 ships ain't that profitable, with few exceptions.
You think selling in bulk should decrease the price. But many people who want to build loads of stuff, like yourself, have the same problem as you. People like me sell in bulk with inflated instead of reduced prices. Choices are you either go fly around the region buying off low misc sell orders, set a lot of buy orders and do all the trouble of hauling and managing the orders yourself, or you buy a huge bulk from me with inflated price and save yourself some trouble.
Selling bulk with reduced price is desirable only if you need the cash really fast for some reason.
Find something else to build if you can't make profit with the current mineral prices. Blame the minerals-I-mine-are-free people.
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Cohors Alaria
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Posted - 2009.03.07 02:30:00 -
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Jita.
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Sidrat Flush
Caldari
Life is Experience
Rally Against Evil
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Posted - 2009.03.07 04:29:00 -
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If you want minerals and you know exactly how many minerals you need (see the signature) then put up buy orders based on the price YOU want to pay and at the range YOU want to buy within.
Don't be stubborn and check out your locality. If you have a region wide buy order that's the highest then I'm afraid you're going to have to either find a different region, wait till that order is closed or final option pay a higher price but on a range that you set.
Mined minerals are NOT free. Minerals you get from refining are NOT free. Anyone could offer you a price for the minerals you have in your possesion and that is the value you use, not 0.00 cus you got them from refining rat loot, or you mined them yourself.
I only hope the price of tritanium comes lower than pyerite because it's stupidily high in some regions and in most cases represent 25% or more of the final item price.
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Chian Dorado
Caldari
Imperii Fortuna
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Posted - 2009.03.09 16:16:00 -
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Originally by: Vyivra
which system in 0.5 or above has the very best refined mineral prices?
Plenty of sites that will give the info. Eve-central obviously, and from my project over at http://eve-factory.com when you can see prices, in volume (ish) over various trade hubs.
I've been away for a while but will become more active once a couple work projects are complete and the expack is released (along with all the goodness data behind it :).
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Pwett
QUANT Corp.
QUANT Hegemony
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Posted - 2009.03.09 16:59:00 -
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Originally by: Vyivra
I know about eve central but what I have noticed is that people who sell minerals do not take into consideration that if a player wants to 1000000 Units of mexallon the price should be greatly reduced versus buying 1000 units where you should expect retail prices. The problem I have is in finding reasonable bulk prices which at the moment seems impossible. How am I supposed to manufature ships or modules if people are selling minerals bulk and non bulk at mostly inflated prices?
EVE is backwards, public bulk is generally more expensive than smaller orders. In order to get good bulk prices, you need to find yourself some private suppliers and work out some contracts.
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Argendta
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Posted - 2009.03.09 17:40:00 -
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Explanation of REALITY(TM) for those who have somehow missed the fact that the rules of EVE as the Universe are not, in fact, the rules of real life Universe.
In real life, the costs of marketing, advertising, and moving stuff are high, therefore a direct connection with bulk buyers saves for producer a lot in advertising, marketing, etc costs. In EVE marketing and advertising non-existent, because Jita market takes care of it in real time without any real effort, and costs of moving stuff to Jita are the same as costs of moving stuff anywhere else (and mostly negligable). Therefore, there is no reason for any discount on bulk orders.
So no "bulk means cheap" for you. Bulk doesn't mean sh!t in Eve, short of special cases where manufacturer is cut from Jita, in which case bulk means "very ****ing expensive indeed 'cause of transportation costs" :)
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K'uata Sayus
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Posted - 2009.03.09 19:13:00 -
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Edited by: K''uata Sayus on 09/03/2009 19:16:54
Originally by: Vyivra
. How am I supposed to manufature ships or modules if people are selling minerals bulk and non bulk at mostly inflated prices?
The "easy" button on the UI was nerfed in '04 or '05 I believe.
As a noob I assumed manufacturing was a viable career, and trained an alt in that direction. When I realized that most ships are selling from 0-10% above the value of the minerals it takes to make them, I took a look at manufacturing modules. In order to make decent isk on those you've got to sell in big volume. Either way manufacturing is cutthroat because everyone can do it and competition always drives the price down to just above the mineral value of the item.
The savvy industrialists take the long-run view and spend a lot of time researching what they make and which markets work for them best. As these change constantly, they keep at it and work just as hard or harder than any other Eve "profession".
TBH there's more to be made in trading than manufacturing, and most "Industrialists" are more than likely heavily involved in both areas.
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Clair Bear
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.03.09 21:57:00 -
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Minerals in bulk cost more than in small volume. Why? Freighters. It takes roughly the same amount of effort to move 80 million trit as 2 million. So cheap-ish volume sell orders will attract freighter pilots while low volume ones will not.
Think about this for a minute. If your production pipeline can make 10 million ISK/day then you can fund that account through PLEXes. This puts a cap on the amount of ISK/day you can make through t1 manufacture -- any higher than 1M per pipeline per day and it's worth it for people like me to add an alt account. It takes all of two months (read: 600 million) to add 27 PE V pipelines worth of capacity to a manufacturing operation. And this will only get easier after today.
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