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Mandorr Kzrell
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Posted - 2009.03.07 16:36:00 -
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I'm going for the 2 hulks + orca combo for my hauling convenience.
Not actually having any free char slots and not yet owning a 3rd account, and not wanting to wait for 24 hours to eradicate on of my useless alts, I come to you to ask you this.
My second char is able to train an orca in 31 days. The first and the second are already in hulks. Now, when I make the third account, which path would be the most time efficient, train the second account for the orca and the third for a hulk, or the third for an orca and have my second resume the much needed 30 days on amarr industrial V
Basicly, which skill path is longer with industrial focused attributes on a new char, orca or a hulk?
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Marcus Gideon
Gallente
Excessive Force
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Posted - 2009.03.07 17:30:00 -
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Orca takes extra Leadership skills... but once those are out of the way, just about anyone who could fly a Hulk could fly an Orca.
As for industrial skills... there's really no need for Haulers when you have an Orca. Sure, you lose a few seconds of boosting when it docks, but I can fit 120,000m3 with no real effort in mine. And if you really wanted to go wild, you could fill the holds with GSC, and get about 156,000... which is significantly more than you'd fit in an Iteron V, much less a Bestower.
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Posted - 2009.03.08 05:39:00 -
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 Originally by: Marcus Gideon
As for industrial skills... there's really no need for Haulers when you have an Orca. Sure, you lose a few seconds of boosting when it docks, but I can fit 120,000m3 with no real effort in mine. And if you really wanted to go wild, you could fill the holds with GSC, and get about 156,000... which is significantly more than you'd fit in an Iteron V, much less a Bestower.
this to be honest. unless you realy need to fly a Impell or Protator for whatever reason you will be using the industrials as hanger queens
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Cohors Alaria
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Posted - 2009.03.08 12:48:00 -
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Mandorr Kzrell
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Posted - 2009.03.08 14:30:00 -
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I'm sorry but none of this actually answers what I was asking, (neither does the other thread).
And you misunderstood, the amarr industrial V is for a freighter, which I will require for other purposes.
My question is, if I make a new industrial character, will I reach a hulk faster than an Orca?
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Writ Insand
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Posted - 2009.03.08 14:37:00 -
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Well, if that's all you're asking, then it's the sort of question that can be answered in 10 seconds using Evemon, isn't it?
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Dennmoth Ferdier
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Posted - 2009.03.08 15:09:00 -
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Edited by: Dennmoth Ferdier on 08/03/2009 15:09:06
I think a hulk, would be faster, maybe 
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Mandorr Kzrell
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Posted - 2009.03.08 15:13:00 -
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Originally by: Writ Insand
Well, if that's all you're asking, then it's the sort of question that can be answered in 10 seconds using Evemon, isn't it?
I actually explained above that all of my alt slots are taken, and none of them are created towards training a hulk nor an orca, so unless I delete one of my market hub alts, and make a new one, and last I checked evemon doesn't let you create character bases independently, then no, it isn't a question of using evemon for 10 seconds.
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Hu Fat
Gallente
United Pilots of Germany
Allied German Research Organisation
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Posted - 2009.03.08 15:23:00 -
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Orca 
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spyor
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Posted - 2009.03.08 19:41:00 -
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Orca
astrogeology takes along time for a hulk
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Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.03.09 00:05:00 -
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Definitely an orca as you will be able to use it for any number of other roles past the typical mining mule gang booster. Just make sure the third account that is training for a hulk can use an osprey so he can effeciently mine as he trains up. Then once he is in a hulk crosstrain him for a level 4 mission running raven and then mine your missions. Trust me once you get the routine down its much much better than belt mining. 
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Arr0wyx
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Posted - 2009.03.09 12:36:00 -
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Originally by: Mandorr Kzrell
Edited by: Mandorr Kzrell on 08/03/2009 15:14:05
My second char is able to train an orca in 31 days.
Basicly, which skill path is longer with industrial focused attributes on a new char, orca or a hulk?
A new character built for the purpose of mining in a hulk will take about 65 days to be able to fly it. You will spend a bit more time past that to get T2 strip miners and mining crystals. Overall time will be around 3 months and change. 
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Korizan
Oort Cloud Industries
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Posted - 2009.03.09 13:25:00 -
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It is called personal choice.
But if your hulk pilots use T2 crystals it is probably better to make the orca pilot from scratch.
But the real answer is use EVE MON and make the choice yourself.
And that is the simple truth.
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Ronha Ottrit
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.03.09 23:57:00 -
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So Hulk Hulk Orca would be better overall?
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Pwett
QUANT Corp.
QUANT Hegemony
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Posted - 2009.03.10 00:00:00 -
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training time, yes.
In terms of yield, however, the orca is only better replacing the 5th hulk.
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Dennmoth Ferdier
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Posted - 2009.03.10 00:00:00 -
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Edited by: Dennmoth Ferdier on 10/03/2009 00:01:30
Originally by: Korizan
But the real answer is use EVE MON and make the choice yourself.
And that is the simple truth.
Read the thread.
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Dennmoth Ferdier
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Posted - 2009.03.10 00:01:00 -
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Originally by: Pwett
training time, yes.
In terms of yield, however, the orca is only better replacing the 5th hulk.
But in terms of convenience and relaxation, two hulks and an orca is way better than just three hulks.
In terms of yield, then you are most likely right.
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Ronha Ottrit
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.03.10 00:29:00 -
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Originally by: Pwett
training time, yes.
In terms of yield, however, the orca is only better replacing the 5th hulk.
I have 3 accounts which will be the max and right now i'm using an Impel+Hulk+Hulk, truth be told I don't really want to do 3 hulks as the idea of hauling it all later isn't good for me, but I guess getting into and Orca then going for a hulk and using the Orca to scoop later would be better, but I do run the risk of can flippers ruining my entire run.
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AusTerror
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Posted - 2009.03.11 02:45:00 -
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Can flippers should not be a concern if you do it correctly.
I had thought, that fleet members can dump ore directly into the orca's hold. There is a check box that enables this option.
From my point of view, running three hulks would be easier and return grater profit. Just warp to station when any hulk gets full, no jet cans needed.
If running most of your mining missions in a system with a station no Orca required. Remote, stationless systems, an orca would be handy.
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