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david1090879
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Posted - 2004.08.13 13:38:00 -
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I was just on my way back from Stacmon to PC9 0.0 region (Syndicate), half way through the jumps I get followed by a known pirate - I believe he was in a faster ship, and started to chase me.
I keep moving as I have the instas and shouldnt get time to lock me if I warp though the route of gates immedaitely, on the next gate I was cought by a game bug. I clicked jump from coming out of warp alittle too early "Jump in progress" appeared however I remained in the system (My pirate is now locking me) 10 seconds till I am locked.
I m clicking the stop ship command, and try and warp, still stuck. - I am now fully locked by this nasty pirate, warp scrambled and webbed...... Hence the end of my 110 Isk raven...
I have sent a petition to ccp ! I hope they have this logged on their severs properly, as this was totally unfair. If I do not get a +++ response from them then Im.
If it hadnt have been for this damm bug I know my ship would still be here, I shouldnt have to work around bugs like this...
my question is has anyone had any similair expierences to this, and had any positive reponses.
If I do get a neg response then I am back in empire and would love to help someone with a mining op while I rebuild my isk.
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david1090879
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Posted - 2004.08.13 13:38:00 -
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I was just on my way back from Stacmon to PC9 0.0 region (Syndicate), half way through the jumps I get followed by a known pirate - I believe he was in a faster ship, and started to chase me.
I keep moving as I have the instas and shouldnt get time to lock me if I warp though the route of gates immedaitely, on the next gate I was cought by a game bug. I clicked jump from coming out of warp alittle too early "Jump in progress" appeared however I remained in the system (My pirate is now locking me) 10 seconds till I am locked.
I m clicking the stop ship command, and try and warp, still stuck. - I am now fully locked by this nasty pirate, warp scrambled and webbed...... Hence the end of my 110 Isk raven...
I have sent a petition to ccp ! I hope they have this logged on their severs properly, as this was totally unfair. If I do not get a +++ response from them then Im.
If it hadnt have been for this damm bug I know my ship would still be here, I shouldnt have to work around bugs like this...
my question is has anyone had any similair expierences to this, and had any positive reponses.
If I do get a neg response then I am back in empire and would love to help someone with a mining op while I rebuild my isk.
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Barth3zzzNL
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Posted - 2004.08.13 13:45:00 -
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Edited by: Barth3zzzNL on 13/08/2004 13:46:33 A: Insurance is your friend, wth are you taking an uninsured raven into 0.0 for? 
B: That bug has been around for a while.
C: Pirates rule!  ---------------------------
[Coreli Corporation Mainframe] |

Barth3zzzNL
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Posted - 2004.08.13 13:45:00 -
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Edited by: Barth3zzzNL on 13/08/2004 13:46:33 A: Insurance is your friend, wth are you taking an uninsured raven into 0.0 for? 
B: That bug has been around for a while.
C: Pirates rule!  ---------------------------
[Coreli Corporation Mainframe] |

david1090879
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Posted - 2004.08.13 13:52:00 -
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i was insured it the fact that every time I looose a bs due to either a bug or pirates I loose 30 mill insurance money.
30 mill is still too much to loose. -
could anyone answer my first question, has anyone had ++ response to this type of petition or been on the receiving end
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david1090879
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Posted - 2004.08.13 13:52:00 -
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i was insured it the fact that every time I looose a bs due to either a bug or pirates I loose 30 mill insurance money.
30 mill is still too much to loose. -
could anyone answer my first question, has anyone had ++ response to this type of petition or been on the receiving end
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xAoC2
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Posted - 2004.08.13 13:52:00 -
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its a well known bug. but surely anyone using insta's knows..never EVER press jump while coming out of warp!!! you gotta give it a couple of seconds, the pirate isnt gonna do much in a couple seconds. stay calm and dont panic. afaik its the only way of avoiding this bug. ................................
TEH PWNZOR |

xAoC2
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Posted - 2004.08.13 13:52:00 -
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its a well known bug. but surely anyone using insta's knows..never EVER press jump while coming out of warp!!! you gotta give it a couple of seconds, the pirate isnt gonna do much in a couple seconds. stay calm and dont panic. afaik its the only way of avoiding this bug. ................................
TEH PWNZOR |

david1090879
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Posted - 2004.08.13 13:53:00 -
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xAoC2 ???
will they compensate me for it due to this being a bug
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david1090879
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Posted - 2004.08.13 13:53:00 -
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xAoC2 ???
will they compensate me for it due to this being a bug
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Kozak
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Posted - 2004.08.13 13:58:00 -
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Best way to avoid this bug, is to use autopilot. Turn it on while in warp, and off once you get the jumping message.
I would petition and you may get your stuff back, but i wouldn't hold my breath.
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Kozak
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Posted - 2004.08.13 13:58:00 -
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Best way to avoid this bug, is to use autopilot. Turn it on while in warp, and off once you get the jumping message.
I would petition and you may get your stuff back, but i wouldn't hold my breath.
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Xendie
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Posted - 2004.08.13 13:58:00 -
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i dont think it is a bug since you only get that if you havent completely gotten out of warp before you hit jump. i never get that if i make sure i am out of warp completely, but ive gotten it if i try to hit jump to early.
and yes insurance is your friend. as for going into 0.0 and getting depressed when your ship gets blown up, no need since when you go to 0.0 you should already have kissed the ship goodbye and be prepared to loose it if so be. no need to cry over 1's and 0's that resides on a computer in iceland. just go and play for fun instead.
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Xendie
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Posted - 2004.08.13 13:58:00 -
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i dont think it is a bug since you only get that if you havent completely gotten out of warp before you hit jump. i never get that if i make sure i am out of warp completely, but ive gotten it if i try to hit jump to early.
and yes insurance is your friend. as for going into 0.0 and getting depressed when your ship gets blown up, no need since when you go to 0.0 you should already have kissed the ship goodbye and be prepared to loose it if so be. no need to cry over 1's and 0's that resides on a computer in iceland. just go and play for fun instead.
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david1090879
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Posted - 2004.08.13 14:07:00 -
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was insured it, that wasnt my question.
I would like to know if anyone has had any responses from any petitions when in a similair situation.
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david1090879
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Posted - 2004.08.13 14:07:00 -
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was insured it, that wasnt my question.
I would like to know if anyone has had any responses from any petitions when in a similair situation.
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Randuin MaraL
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Posted - 2004.08.13 14:08:00 -
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Originally by: david1090879
could anyone answer my first question, has anyone had ++ response to this type of petition or been on the receiving end
I never had to petition such a thing. GM comments and decisions are very rarely, if ever, discussed on the forums. Patience is what you need now. If you disagree with GM decision, discuss with them - might you can add more details for them to judge your case. But do not discuss here  ____________________________________________________
Never be in the company of anyone with whom you would not want to die.
MEDUSA veteran, Khumaak Award winner |

Randuin MaraL
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Posted - 2004.08.13 14:08:00 -
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Originally by: david1090879
could anyone answer my first question, has anyone had ++ response to this type of petition or been on the receiving end
I never had to petition such a thing. GM comments and decisions are very rarely, if ever, discussed on the forums. Patience is what you need now. If you disagree with GM decision, discuss with them - might you can add more details for them to judge your case. But do not discuss here  ____________________________________________________
Never be in the company of anyone with whom you would not want to die.
MEDUSA veteran, Khumaak Award winner |

Ifni
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Posted - 2004.08.13 14:11:00 -
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You mean this Raven? -
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Ifni
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Posted - 2004.08.13 14:11:00 -
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You mean this Raven? -
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david1090879
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Posted - 2004.08.13 14:15:00 -
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thats the one -
Im not quiting I will be back.
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david1090879
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Posted - 2004.08.13 14:15:00 -
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thats the one -
Im not quiting I will be back.
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S3VYN
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Posted - 2004.08.13 14:15:00 -
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Quote: Hence the end of my 110 Isk raven...
Wish I could get my Ravens for 110 isk. I'd let pirates blow them up for sport too. ------------------------------------- // The views expressed by this poster are not the views of the poster's corporation, alliance, planet or television network... but they should be. |

S3VYN
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Posted - 2004.08.13 14:15:00 -
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Quote: Hence the end of my 110 Isk raven...
Wish I could get my Ravens for 110 isk. I'd let pirates blow them up for sport too. ------------------------------------- // The views expressed by this poster are not the views of the poster's corporation, alliance, planet or television network... but they should be. |

david1090879
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Posted - 2004.08.13 14:16:00 -
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well since Its very unlikely I will get the money back, I will have to do either mining or missions in empire -
anyone willing to join up with me?
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david1090879
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Posted - 2004.08.13 14:16:00 -
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well since Its very unlikely I will get the money back, I will have to do either mining or missions in empire -
anyone willing to join up with me?
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Naqq
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Posted - 2004.08.13 14:18:00 -
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Originally by: Xendie i dont think it is a bug since you only get that if you havent completely gotten out of warp before you hit jump. i never get that if i make sure i am out of warp completely, but ive gotten it if i try to hit jump to early.
Noob, no offence. It is a bug, or atleast I hope so, even if you wait untill you get down to 'normal' flying speed you still get this message, as a previous posted wrote the best workaround for this is using the autopilot to jump with your instas or make sure you try to move your ship before you jump. In case you remember when some people had to move their ship a little before you could warp to them in gang(said gangster not in system if they didn't move after getting outta warp) same case here.
Gl hf.
-- "Yarrr..." [FRIG] promotional video|Training film #1|Training film #2| |Newsreels: #1,#2,#3(NEW).| |

Naqq
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Posted - 2004.08.13 14:18:00 -
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Originally by: Xendie i dont think it is a bug since you only get that if you havent completely gotten out of warp before you hit jump. i never get that if i make sure i am out of warp completely, but ive gotten it if i try to hit jump to early.
Noob, no offence. It is a bug, or atleast I hope so, even if you wait untill you get down to 'normal' flying speed you still get this message, as a previous posted wrote the best workaround for this is using the autopilot to jump with your instas or make sure you try to move your ship before you jump. In case you remember when some people had to move their ship a little before you could warp to them in gang(said gangster not in system if they didn't move after getting outta warp) same case here.
Gl hf.
-- "Yarrr..." [FRIG] promotional video|Training film #1|Training film #2| |Newsreels: #1,#2,#3(NEW).| |

david1090879
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Posted - 2004.08.13 14:21:00 -
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I do not take any offense being called a noob, I have not been playing that long in comparison to most of the pirates.
Im only looking for someone to help me out now as most of my corp is now in pc9 , im not returning there until i have more skill points and cash to replace any more ships
infiny I hope you enjoy killing noobs and its makes you feel bigggg
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david1090879
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Posted - 2004.08.13 14:21:00 -
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I do not take any offense being called a noob, I have not been playing that long in comparison to most of the pirates.
Im only looking for someone to help me out now as most of my corp is now in pc9 , im not returning there until i have more skill points and cash to replace any more ships
infiny I hope you enjoy killing noobs and its makes you feel bigggg
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Xendie
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Posted - 2004.08.13 14:58:00 -
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Originally by: Naqq
Originally by: Xendie i dont think it is a bug since you only get that if you havent completely gotten out of warp before you hit jump. i never get that if i make sure i am out of warp completely, but ive gotten it if i try to hit jump to early.
Noob, no offence. It is a bug, or atleast I hope so, even if you wait untill you get down to 'normal' flying speed you still get this message, as a previous posted wrote the best workaround for this is using the autopilot to jump with your instas or make sure you try to move your ship before you jump. In case you remember when some people had to move their ship a little before you could warp to them in gang(said gangster not in system if they didn't move after getting outta warp) same case here.
Gl hf.
well i have never had that problem with not being able to jump unless i hadnt gotten out of warp completely first. simple as that. as for the "noob" remark heres some education for you... the term "n00b" (note spelling with 2 00 instead of 2 oo as you did) is a age old computer slang word that was used for "newbie's" wich werent ever able to learn anything even though they were told how things work over and over again compared to the "Newbie" who is a person who are new but are able to learn compared to the "n00b" who will never be able to learn.
also i might add that it is always the 1337 n00bs who spell it "noob so guess where i put your lame flame attempt.
fact still stand that i dont think it is bug as i have never had it happen to me when ive have come out of warp completely only when i have tried to jump before im completely out of warp.
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Xendie
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Posted - 2004.08.13 14:58:00 -
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Originally by: Naqq
Originally by: Xendie i dont think it is a bug since you only get that if you havent completely gotten out of warp before you hit jump. i never get that if i make sure i am out of warp completely, but ive gotten it if i try to hit jump to early.
Noob, no offence. It is a bug, or atleast I hope so, even if you wait untill you get down to 'normal' flying speed you still get this message, as a previous posted wrote the best workaround for this is using the autopilot to jump with your instas or make sure you try to move your ship before you jump. In case you remember when some people had to move their ship a little before you could warp to them in gang(said gangster not in system if they didn't move after getting outta warp) same case here.
Gl hf.
well i have never had that problem with not being able to jump unless i hadnt gotten out of warp completely first. simple as that. as for the "noob" remark heres some education for you... the term "n00b" (note spelling with 2 00 instead of 2 oo as you did) is a age old computer slang word that was used for "newbie's" wich werent ever able to learn anything even though they were told how things work over and over again compared to the "Newbie" who is a person who are new but are able to learn compared to the "n00b" who will never be able to learn.
also i might add that it is always the 1337 n00bs who spell it "noob so guess where i put your lame flame attempt.
fact still stand that i dont think it is bug as i have never had it happen to me when ive have come out of warp completely only when i have tried to jump before im completely out of warp.
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FuPhal
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Posted - 2004.08.13 15:06:00 -
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no0b ? :/
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FuPhal
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Posted - 2004.08.13 15:06:00 -
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no0b ? :/
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Shade Widow
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Posted - 2004.08.13 15:18:00 -
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NOOB--Angry noob n00b--Idiot newbie--new to game NoOob--idiot newbie NOob--angry idiot newbie NoOb--angry idiot noobish--The act of being an idiot newblert--insignificant idiot Noobie--new to game but a moron noobs--Many morons NOobs--Many angry idiots.
Questions? ---
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Shade Widow
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Posted - 2004.08.13 15:18:00 -
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NOOB--Angry noob n00b--Idiot newbie--new to game NoOob--idiot newbie NOob--angry idiot newbie NoOb--angry idiot noobish--The act of being an idiot newblert--insignificant idiot Noobie--new to game but a moron noobs--Many morons NOobs--Many angry idiots.
Questions? ---
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Shade Widow
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Posted - 2004.08.13 15:19:00 -
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Theres actually a 10 page list but I didnt feel like posting it.. ---
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Shade Widow
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Posted - 2004.08.13 15:19:00 -
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Theres actually a 10 page list but I didnt feel like posting it.. ---
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Ifni
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Posted - 2004.08.13 15:25:00 -
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Edited by: Ifni on 13/08/2004 15:34:08
Originally by: david1090879 I do not take any offense being called a noob, I have not been playing that long in comparison to most of the pirates.
Im only looking for someone to help me out now as most of my corp is now in pc9 , im not returning there until i have more skill points and cash to replace any more ships
infiny I hope you enjoy killing noobs and its makes you feel bigggg
re read the link i posted. i didnt kill you. it was m0o that killed you , unless you lost more than one...? not that i wouldnt try :) -
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Ifni
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Posted - 2004.08.13 15:25:00 -
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Edited by: Ifni on 13/08/2004 15:34:08
Originally by: david1090879 I do not take any offense being called a noob, I have not been playing that long in comparison to most of the pirates.
Im only looking for someone to help me out now as most of my corp is now in pc9 , im not returning there until i have more skill points and cash to replace any more ships
infiny I hope you enjoy killing noobs and its makes you feel bigggg
re read the link i posted. i didnt kill you. it was m0o that killed you , unless you lost more than one...? not that i wouldnt try :) -
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Nilkarus
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Posted - 2004.08.13 15:26:00 -
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Ahem... If you're talking about today when I shot down your raven, I think you're a little confused about the sequence of events.
You instaed to the zvn gate, I did the same. Now, you sat there a while, which I'm guessing is when you were having the jump problems. All that did was allow me to catch up. I locked you, and waited for you to jump. I followed...
On the OTHER side of the gate, I scrambled you (no web) and proceeded to open fire (you being 12km from the gate here). You logged off in response.
If you do get your ship back from the GM's from blaming it on that jump session change bug, kudos to you for pulling the wool over their eyes.
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Nilkarus
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Posted - 2004.08.13 15:26:00 -
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Ahem... If you're talking about today when I shot down your raven, I think you're a little confused about the sequence of events.
You instaed to the zvn gate, I did the same. Now, you sat there a while, which I'm guessing is when you were having the jump problems. All that did was allow me to catch up. I locked you, and waited for you to jump. I followed...
On the OTHER side of the gate, I scrambled you (no web) and proceeded to open fire (you being 12km from the gate here). You logged off in response.
If you do get your ship back from the GM's from blaming it on that jump session change bug, kudos to you for pulling the wool over their eyes.
Movie Archive - Kill List |

FuPhal
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Posted - 2004.08.13 15:31:00 -
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Well ure name doesnt appear on the kill mail? :/ unless it was an alt of ures?
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FuPhal
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Posted - 2004.08.13 15:31:00 -
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Well ure name doesnt appear on the kill mail? :/ unless it was an alt of ures?
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Defcon2
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Posted - 2004.08.13 15:32:00 -
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Originally by: david1090879
infiny I hope you enjoy killing noobs and its makes you feel bigggg
Infiny, getting kills? You must be mistaken 
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Defcon2
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Posted - 2004.08.13 15:32:00 -
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Originally by: david1090879
infiny I hope you enjoy killing noobs and its makes you feel bigggg
Infiny, getting kills? You must be mistaken 
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Nilkarus
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Posted - 2004.08.13 15:32:00 -
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Kill mail:
2004.08.13 12:41:00
Victim: david1090879 Corporation: EverCorp. Destroyed Type: Raven Solar System: ZVN5-H System Security Level: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: Nilkarus (laid the final blow) Security Status: -1.4 Corporation: Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated Ship Type: Raven Weapon Type: Mjolnir Torpedo I
Destroyed items:
Type: Mexallon (Cargo) Quantity: 961
Type: Nocxium (Cargo) Quantity: 1
Type: Zydrine (Cargo) Quantity: 1
Type: Overdrive Injector System I (Cargo)
Type: Heavy Missile Launcher I (Cargo)
Type: Heavy Missile Launcher I (Cargo)
Type: Widowmaker Heavy Missile I (Cargo) Quantity: 1
Type: Miner II (Cargo)
Type: Miner II (Cargo)
Type: Miner II (Cargo)
Type: Power Diagnostic System I (Fitted - Low slot)
Type: Power Diagnostic System I (Fitted - Low slot)
Type: Cap Recharger I (Fitted - Medium slot)
Type: Siege Missile Launcher I (Fitted - High slot)
Type: Siege Missile Launcher I (Fitted - High slot)
Type: Cruise Missile Launcher I (Fitted - High slot)
Type: Cruise Missile Launcher I (Fitted - High slot)
Type: Basic Mining Drone (Drone Bay)
Was this morning. And... He had NO missiles loaded or dropped at all, figure that one out. (Probably why he just logged.)
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Nilkarus
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Posted - 2004.08.13 15:32:00 -
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Kill mail:
2004.08.13 12:41:00
Victim: david1090879 Corporation: EverCorp. Destroyed Type: Raven Solar System: ZVN5-H System Security Level: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: Nilkarus (laid the final blow) Security Status: -1.4 Corporation: Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated Ship Type: Raven Weapon Type: Mjolnir Torpedo I
Destroyed items:
Type: Mexallon (Cargo) Quantity: 961
Type: Nocxium (Cargo) Quantity: 1
Type: Zydrine (Cargo) Quantity: 1
Type: Overdrive Injector System I (Cargo)
Type: Heavy Missile Launcher I (Cargo)
Type: Heavy Missile Launcher I (Cargo)
Type: Widowmaker Heavy Missile I (Cargo) Quantity: 1
Type: Miner II (Cargo)
Type: Miner II (Cargo)
Type: Miner II (Cargo)
Type: Power Diagnostic System I (Fitted - Low slot)
Type: Power Diagnostic System I (Fitted - Low slot)
Type: Cap Recharger I (Fitted - Medium slot)
Type: Siege Missile Launcher I (Fitted - High slot)
Type: Siege Missile Launcher I (Fitted - High slot)
Type: Cruise Missile Launcher I (Fitted - High slot)
Type: Cruise Missile Launcher I (Fitted - High slot)
Type: Basic Mining Drone (Drone Bay)
Was this morning. And... He had NO missiles loaded or dropped at all, figure that one out. (Probably why he just logged.)
Movie Archive - Kill List |

Ifni
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Posted - 2004.08.13 15:35:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Defcon2
Originally by: david1090879
infiny I hope you enjoy killing noobs and its makes you feel bigggg
Infiny, getting kills? You must be mistaken 
can no one read? I F N I -
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Ifni
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Posted - 2004.08.13 15:35:00 -
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Originally by: Defcon2
Originally by: david1090879
infiny I hope you enjoy killing noobs and its makes you feel bigggg
Infiny, getting kills? You must be mistaken 
can no one read? I F N I -
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Defcon2
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Posted - 2004.08.13 15:38:00 -
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I like Infiny better 
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Defcon2
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Posted - 2004.08.13 15:38:00 -
[52]
I like Infiny better 
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Koda
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Posted - 2004.08.13 15:42:00 -
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Given the time stamps on the kill mails, it looks like 2 Ravens in 2 days  --------------
Share the love in the SNIGG Forums
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Koda
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Posted - 2004.08.13 15:42:00 -
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Given the time stamps on the kill mails, it looks like 2 Ravens in 2 days  --------------
Share the love in the SNIGG Forums
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FuPhal
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Posted - 2004.08.13 15:54:00 -
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Id start using frigates :P theyre cheaper
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FuPhal
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Posted - 2004.08.13 15:54:00 -
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Id start using frigates :P theyre cheaper
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The Ratfink
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Posted - 2004.08.13 16:47:00 -
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Originally by: david1090879
I m clicking the stop ship command, and try and warp, still stuck. - I am now fully locked by this nasty pirate, warp scrambled and webbed...... Hence the end of my 110 Isk raven...
I wanna know your battleship supplier i'll buy thousands of ravens
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The Ratfink
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Posted - 2004.08.13 16:47:00 -
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Originally by: david1090879
I m clicking the stop ship command, and try and warp, still stuck. - I am now fully locked by this nasty pirate, warp scrambled and webbed...... Hence the end of my 110 Isk raven...
I wanna know your battleship supplier i'll buy thousands of ravens
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DJTheBaron
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Posted - 2004.08.13 17:14:00 -
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to my knowledge ccp do not refind you for that obious jump bug, just the other day we had to sacrifice 2 cruisers to draw fire from a jump bugged raven that was being chased, luckily theyd ecided to scramble 2 cruisers instead of a battleship lol
i lost a rifter and a pod to this bug, had the logs stating both, had a screenshot of, after i got podde,d is een my corpse, autopiliot jumping, i had a 0 structure 0 armour and sheild building up pod in the next system
through about 5 replies from a gm i was told i would not be reemburssed, this wasnt a bug, im lucky it was only a rifter i lost... __________________________________________________
Scum, your all scum. |

DJTheBaron
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Posted - 2004.08.13 17:14:00 -
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to my knowledge ccp do not refind you for that obious jump bug, just the other day we had to sacrifice 2 cruisers to draw fire from a jump bugged raven that was being chased, luckily theyd ecided to scramble 2 cruisers instead of a battleship lol
i lost a rifter and a pod to this bug, had the logs stating both, had a screenshot of, after i got podde,d is een my corpse, autopiliot jumping, i had a 0 structure 0 armour and sheild building up pod in the next system
through about 5 replies from a gm i was told i would not be reemburssed, this wasnt a bug, im lucky it was only a rifter i lost... __________________________________________________
Scum, your all scum. |

Shultz
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Posted - 2004.08.13 17:38:00 -
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Originally by: Barth3zzzNL Edited by: Barth3zzzNL on 13/08/2004 13:46:33 A: Insurance is your friend, wth are you taking an uninsured raven into 0.0 for? 

mmm who said he didnt have it insured exactly? I came I fixed and it Broke the next day. |

Shultz
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Posted - 2004.08.13 17:38:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Barth3zzzNL Edited by: Barth3zzzNL on 13/08/2004 13:46:33 A: Insurance is your friend, wth are you taking an uninsured raven into 0.0 for? 

mmm who said he didnt have it insured exactly? I came I fixed and it Broke the next day. |

Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2004.08.13 19:01:00 -
[63]
the jump bug lasts for 20secs max.....how the hell did you loose a raven in 20secs, tbh i find it actually hard to believe
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Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2004.08.13 19:01:00 -
[64]
the jump bug lasts for 20secs max.....how the hell did you loose a raven in 20secs, tbh i find it actually hard to believe
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toaster
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Posted - 2004.08.13 19:07:00 -
[65]
Originally by: david1090879 I was just on my way back from Stacmon to PC9 0.0 region (Syndicate), half way through the jumps I get followed by a known pirate - I believe he was in a faster ship, and started to chase me.
I keep moving as I have the instas and shouldnt get time to lock me if I warp though the route of gates immedaitely, on the next gate I was cought by a game bug. I clicked jump from coming out of warp alittle too early "Jump in progress" appeared however I remained in the system (My pirate is now locking me) 10 seconds till I am locked.
I m clicking the stop ship command, and try and warp, still stuck. - I am now fully locked by this nasty pirate, warp scrambled and webbed...... Hence the end of my 110 Isk raven...
I have sent a petition to ccp ! I hope they have this logged on their severs properly, as this was totally unfair. If I do not get a +++ response from them then Im.
If it hadnt have been for this damm bug I know my ship would still be here, I shouldnt have to work around bugs like this...
my question is has anyone had any similair expierences to this, and had any positive reponses.
If I do get a neg response then I am back in empire and would love to help someone with a mining op while I rebuild my isk.
happens to everyone. But it goes away if u give it 20 seconds or so..how fast did he kill you? If he did it in 20 seconds, can I have his name? I want to call him about possible loadouts.... ------------------------------------------------
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toaster
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Posted - 2004.08.13 19:07:00 -
[66]
Originally by: david1090879 I was just on my way back from Stacmon to PC9 0.0 region (Syndicate), half way through the jumps I get followed by a known pirate - I believe he was in a faster ship, and started to chase me.
I keep moving as I have the instas and shouldnt get time to lock me if I warp though the route of gates immedaitely, on the next gate I was cought by a game bug. I clicked jump from coming out of warp alittle too early "Jump in progress" appeared however I remained in the system (My pirate is now locking me) 10 seconds till I am locked.
I m clicking the stop ship command, and try and warp, still stuck. - I am now fully locked by this nasty pirate, warp scrambled and webbed...... Hence the end of my 110 Isk raven...
I have sent a petition to ccp ! I hope they have this logged on their severs properly, as this was totally unfair. If I do not get a +++ response from them then Im.
If it hadnt have been for this damm bug I know my ship would still be here, I shouldnt have to work around bugs like this...
my question is has anyone had any similair expierences to this, and had any positive reponses.
If I do get a neg response then I am back in empire and would love to help someone with a mining op while I rebuild my isk.
happens to everyone. But it goes away if u give it 20 seconds or so..how fast did he kill you? If he did it in 20 seconds, can I have his name? I want to call him about possible loadouts.... ------------------------------------------------
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0verkill
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Posted - 2004.08.13 20:21:00 -
[67]
actually when we killed you we killed an apoc at the same gate before anyone fired on you. Although I would say he didn't last much longer then 20 sec once the guns opened up on him. 0verkill Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean we aren't out to get you.
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0verkill
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Posted - 2004.08.13 20:21:00 -
[68]
actually when we killed you we killed an apoc at the same gate before anyone fired on you. Although I would say he didn't last much longer then 20 sec once the guns opened up on him. 0verkill Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean we aren't out to get you.
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david1090879
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Posted - 2004.08.13 20:56:00 -
[69]
The pirate in question destroyed my raven in less than 10 secs he had some kinda blasters on, up close, must have been an extreme close range weapon.
From what people have said I am not going to get the compensation back from ccp, which I feel is unfair as its there bug.
Then again life isnt fair but I will carry on playing...
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david1090879
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Posted - 2004.08.13 20:56:00 -
[70]
The pirate in question destroyed my raven in less than 10 secs he had some kinda blasters on, up close, must have been an extreme close range weapon.
From what people have said I am not going to get the compensation back from ccp, which I feel is unfair as its there bug.
Then again life isnt fair but I will carry on playing...
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Molly
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Posted - 2004.08.14 02:06:00 -
[71]
Yeah...
1. CCP screwed you. While "fixing" the session changes they made it even worse, the timer once an action is denied is even longer now.
2. Use autopilot to make the jump. Seems to be safer.
3. Don't trust GMs telling you that the game prevents you up to twenty minutes from jumping (with or without agression by you). They actually never play the game. -- Lord Nemesis > 14 days till mining barge lvl 5 then im strip all the ice in eve
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Molly
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Posted - 2004.08.14 02:06:00 -
[72]
Yeah...
1. CCP screwed you. While "fixing" the session changes they made it even worse, the timer once an action is denied is even longer now.
2. Use autopilot to make the jump. Seems to be safer.
3. Don't trust GMs telling you that the game prevents you up to twenty minutes from jumping (with or without agression by you). They actually never play the game. -- Lord Nemesis > 14 days till mining barge lvl 5 then im strip all the ice in eve
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Uridium
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Posted - 2004.08.14 02:41:00 -
[73]
Never fails to make me chuckle the ammount of noobs in tier 2 bs`s, and yes they die very quickly. 
One memorable Mega had cruiser guns, ackolite drones, and basic mods fitted   -----------------------------------------------
Your Clipper Lighter Perfectly Strikes Hash Wrecking it for 0.57 grams 8) |

Uridium
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Posted - 2004.08.14 02:41:00 -
[74]
Never fails to make me chuckle the ammount of noobs in tier 2 bs`s, and yes they die very quickly. 
One memorable Mega had cruiser guns, ackolite drones, and basic mods fitted   -----------------------------------------------
Your Clipper Lighter Perfectly Strikes Hash Wrecking it for 0.57 grams 8) |

Balistic Void
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Posted - 2004.08.14 02:48:00 -
[75]
I suspect the bug is caused by the less experienced player frantically rightclicking jump on the gate. The timer seems to refresh itself everytime they click it. CCP should fix this bug as it punishes newer players in an unfair way.
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Balistic Void
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Posted - 2004.08.14 02:48:00 -
[76]
I suspect the bug is caused by the less experienced player frantically rightclicking jump on the gate. The timer seems to refresh itself everytime they click it. CCP should fix this bug as it punishes newer players in an unfair way.
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david1090879
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Posted - 2004.08.14 11:09:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Balistic Void I suspect the bug is caused by the less experienced player frantically rightclicking jump on the gate. The timer seems to refresh itself everytime they click it. CCP should fix this bug as it punishes newer players in an unfair way.
- this is pricisly my point. As it stood I was aware of the bug however people should not have to work around the bugs.
- I love how people have blamed me for it, The bug is not my fault, and as for my raven it would still be alive if it hadnt have been for the stupid bug.
- Anyways I have now returned to empire on missions, while I retrain certain skills and wait for my answer on the petition, (Not getting my hopes up I will get the compensation)
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david1090879
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Posted - 2004.08.14 11:09:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Balistic Void I suspect the bug is caused by the less experienced player frantically rightclicking jump on the gate. The timer seems to refresh itself everytime they click it. CCP should fix this bug as it punishes newer players in an unfair way.
- this is pricisly my point. As it stood I was aware of the bug however people should not have to work around the bugs.
- I love how people have blamed me for it, The bug is not my fault, and as for my raven it would still be alive if it hadnt have been for the stupid bug.
- Anyways I have now returned to empire on missions, while I retrain certain skills and wait for my answer on the petition, (Not getting my hopes up I will get the compensation)
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mafish
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Posted - 2004.08.14 14:58:00 -
[79]
dont rely on instas all the time then if they dont work right :/
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mafish
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Posted - 2004.08.14 14:58:00 -
[80]
dont rely on instas all the time then if they dont work right :/
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Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2004.08.14 15:20:00 -
[81]
10secs?
A raven on raven and you lasted 10secs
let me calculate this
a raven has 12-15k of hp adding hull arour and sheild
so that means this dude had to do between 1200 and 1500 dmg per second, and that before resistance.
6 launchers with a rof of 10secs with torps that id do 2000 dmg each id do it.
I want some torps like those
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Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2004.08.14 15:20:00 -
[82]
10secs?
A raven on raven and you lasted 10secs
let me calculate this
a raven has 12-15k of hp adding hull arour and sheild
so that means this dude had to do between 1200 and 1500 dmg per second, and that before resistance.
6 launchers with a rof of 10secs with torps that id do 2000 dmg each id do it.
I want some torps like those
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Snavold
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Posted - 2004.08.15 01:45:00 -
[83]
Same thing happened to me. I was podded because of this bug. I was refuned my ship and clone costs by a GM 10m later though. :)
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Snavold
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Posted - 2004.08.15 01:45:00 -
[84]
Same thing happened to me. I was podded because of this bug. I was refuned my ship and clone costs by a GM 10m later though. :)
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david1090879
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Posted - 2004.08.15 04:01:00 -
[85]
Originally by: Snavold Same thing happened to me. I was podded because of this bug. I was refuned my ship and clone costs by a GM 10m later though. :)
Sorry GM? Not sure I understand - please clarrify?
I have petitioned this, - Is it pot luck if I get the cost of the raven back, or even the ship itself.
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david1090879
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Posted - 2004.08.15 04:01:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Snavold Same thing happened to me. I was podded because of this bug. I was refuned my ship and clone costs by a GM 10m later though. :)
Sorry GM? Not sure I understand - please clarrify?
I have petitioned this, - Is it pot luck if I get the cost of the raven back, or even the ship itself.
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Spec 593357629
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Posted - 2004.08.15 06:50:00 -
[87]
Originally by: Xendie
no need to cry over 1's and 0's that resides on a computer in iceland.
you mean my lost ships are in iceland ?? cool but how do they turn them into 1's and 0's And if i go there can i get them back? is it like a sorta "ship" heaven ??
Easy way to avoid "Jumpsuck"
#1 Set destiation to Iceland #2 turn on autopilot After you warp to BM it will Magically jump at exactly the right moment so that you safely pass throught the gate and away from the nasty pirate Batleships.
#3 you get warp scrambled on the other side of the gate by a mean interceptor pilot who wants to do badd things to your corpse. :-(
combat:Your Civilian Gatling Rail Gun hits Amarr Sentry Gun, doing 0.2 damage.
Something to listen to while mineing |

Spec 593357629
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Posted - 2004.08.15 06:50:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Xendie
no need to cry over 1's and 0's that resides on a computer in iceland.
you mean my lost ships are in iceland ?? cool but how do they turn them into 1's and 0's And if i go there can i get them back? is it like a sorta "ship" heaven ??
Easy way to avoid "Jumpsuck"
#1 Set destiation to Iceland #2 turn on autopilot After you warp to BM it will Magically jump at exactly the right moment so that you safely pass throught the gate and away from the nasty pirate Batleships.
#3 you get warp scrambled on the other side of the gate by a mean interceptor pilot who wants to do badd things to your corpse. :-(
combat:Your Civilian Gatling Rail Gun hits Amarr Sentry Gun, doing 0.2 damage.
Something to listen to while mineing |

Dezzyb0y
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Posted - 2004.08.15 11:51:00 -
[89]
Originally by: Tenacha Khan 10secs?
A raven on raven and you lasted 10secs
let me calculate this
a raven has 12-15k of hp adding hull arour and sheild
so that means this dude had to do between 1200 and 1500 dmg per second, and that before resistance.
6 launchers with a rof of 10secs with torps that id do 2000 dmg each id do it.
I want some torps like those
Dude ure too clever! mate i wouldnt sit there and work that out!  -----------------------
K4rls 1400mm Howitzer Artillery I perfectly strikes Republic Fleet Testing Facilities, wrecking for 1395.9 damage
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Dezzyb0y
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Posted - 2004.08.15 11:51:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Tenacha Khan 10secs?
A raven on raven and you lasted 10secs
let me calculate this
a raven has 12-15k of hp adding hull arour and sheild
so that means this dude had to do between 1200 and 1500 dmg per second, and that before resistance.
6 launchers with a rof of 10secs with torps that id do 2000 dmg each id do it.
I want some torps like those
Dude ure too clever! mate i wouldnt sit there and work that out!  -----------------------
K4rls 1400mm Howitzer Artillery I perfectly strikes Republic Fleet Testing Facilities, wrecking for 1395.9 damage
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DJTheBaron
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Posted - 2004.08.15 13:40:00 -
[91]
Originally by: Snavold Same thing happened to me. I was podded because of this bug. I was refuned my ship and clone costs by a GM 10m later though. :)
if you were given your stuff back, then i want to know why other people with the same problem didnt
having a 0 structure pod 0 armour 1% sheild pod after you seen your corpse jump into the next system after the jumpgate bug loosing your frigate, and being told be calling it a bug didnt mean it was a bug __________________________________________________
Scum, your all scum. |

DJTheBaron
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Posted - 2004.08.15 13:40:00 -
[92]
Originally by: Snavold Same thing happened to me. I was podded because of this bug. I was refuned my ship and clone costs by a GM 10m later though. :)
if you were given your stuff back, then i want to know why other people with the same problem didnt
having a 0 structure pod 0 armour 1% sheild pod after you seen your corpse jump into the next system after the jumpgate bug loosing your frigate, and being told be calling it a bug didnt mean it was a bug __________________________________________________
Scum, your all scum. |

TWD
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Posted - 2004.08.15 13:51:00 -
[93]
the GMs all judge different,
a corpmate of mine found an abandoned battleship at a safepot, and logged off in space with it.
next time he logged in he was sitting in a station without any ship,
what happend was that the GM gave the ship BACK to the original owner who petitioned for it. o_0 |

TWD
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Posted - 2004.08.15 13:51:00 -
[94]
the GMs all judge different,
a corpmate of mine found an abandoned battleship at a safepot, and logged off in space with it.
next time he logged in he was sitting in a station without any ship,
what happend was that the GM gave the ship BACK to the original owner who petitioned for it. o_0 |

david1090879
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Posted - 2004.08.15 18:47:00 -
[95]
Edited by: david1090879 on 15/08/2004 18:49:37 Im still waiting for the petition result.
I expect it to be any time now or next few days till they reply to the petition
I dont expect to get the stuff back, but hey its worth a try. How did he manage to get it back in 10 minutes - thats what I am wondering. -
seems a bit unfair as stated they all judge different.
Gonna carry on playing anyway. - I`ll let you know what they say in the reply of the petition.
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david1090879
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Posted - 2004.08.15 18:47:00 -
[96]
Edited by: david1090879 on 15/08/2004 18:49:37 Im still waiting for the petition result.
I expect it to be any time now or next few days till they reply to the petition
I dont expect to get the stuff back, but hey its worth a try. How did he manage to get it back in 10 minutes - thats what I am wondering. -
seems a bit unfair as stated they all judge different.
Gonna carry on playing anyway. - I`ll let you know what they say in the reply of the petition.
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Nilit
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Posted - 2004.08.15 20:53:00 -
[97]
Quote: I have sent a petition to ccp ! I hope they have this logged on their severs properly, as this was totally unfair. If I do not get a +++ response from them then Im.
Read my sig heh  Imho petitions are a waste of time.
Arguing with EVE customer support is like chatting up stewardess on the plane - you know you're not gonna get any , but it's still hella fun trying |

Nilit
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Posted - 2004.08.15 20:53:00 -
[98]
Quote: I have sent a petition to ccp ! I hope they have this logged on their severs properly, as this was totally unfair. If I do not get a +++ response from them then Im.
Read my sig heh  Imho petitions are a waste of time.
Arguing with EVE customer support is like chatting up stewardess on the plane - you know you're not gonna get any , but it's still hella fun trying |

Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2004.08.15 22:25:00 -
[99]
Originally by: Dezzyb0y
Originally by: Tenacha Khan 10secs?
A raven on raven and you lasted 10secs
let me calculate this
a raven has 12-15k of hp adding hull arour and sheild
so that means this dude had to do between 1200 and 1500 dmg per second, and that before resistance.
6 launchers with a rof of 10secs with torps that id do 2000 dmg each id do it.
I want some torps like those
Dude ure too clever! mate i wouldnt sit there and work that out! 
ffs i had to sit there and do it, i couldnt stand after hearing a raven went bye bye inside 10secs to another bs
btw, I still want some of those torps
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Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2004.08.15 22:25:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Dezzyb0y
Originally by: Tenacha Khan 10secs?
A raven on raven and you lasted 10secs
let me calculate this
a raven has 12-15k of hp adding hull arour and sheild
so that means this dude had to do between 1200 and 1500 dmg per second, and that before resistance.
6 launchers with a rof of 10secs with torps that id do 2000 dmg each id do it.
I want some torps like those
Dude ure too clever! mate i wouldnt sit there and work that out! 
ffs i had to sit there and do it, i couldnt stand after hearing a raven went bye bye inside 10secs to another bs
btw, I still want some of those torps
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Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2004.08.15 22:26:00 -
[101]
Originally by: TWD the GMs all judge different,
a corpmate of mine found an abandoned battleship at a safepot, and logged off in space with it.
next time he logged in he was sitting in a station without any ship,
what happend was that the GM gave the ship BACK to the original owner who petitioned for it. o_0
I finally managed to stand after hearing about that raven...now i have to sit the **** back down.
Thats evil, real evil 
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Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2004.08.15 22:26:00 -
[102]
Originally by: TWD the GMs all judge different,
a corpmate of mine found an abandoned battleship at a safepot, and logged off in space with it.
next time he logged in he was sitting in a station without any ship,
what happend was that the GM gave the ship BACK to the original owner who petitioned for it. o_0
I finally managed to stand after hearing about that raven...now i have to sit the **** back down.
Thats evil, real evil 
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FlawlesS
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Posted - 2004.08.17 14:33:00 -
[103]
you claim to be a n00b, but you fly a Raven. Anybody in a BS is not to be considered a n00b but a threat.
If you really are someone with less skill points, stay in cruisers untill you can not only fly a BS, but also use it properly. My main char has 8 mill skillpoints, but i'm still fine-tuning some skills before taking her on on real PvP.
If you fly a BS as a n00b, you're not a n00b, but just plain stupid. Also, only fly a BS when you can afford to replace it. Insurance alone doesn't cover it. You need backup money for the modules too.
Learn from this, and consider bugs as a threat and handle them accordingly. In this case, use the autopilot as they said.
But that wasn't your question. I don't have experience petitioning for these kinda request, but don't get your hopes up, thßt i do know |

FlawlesS
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Posted - 2004.08.17 14:33:00 -
[104]
you claim to be a n00b, but you fly a Raven. Anybody in a BS is not to be considered a n00b but a threat.
If you really are someone with less skill points, stay in cruisers untill you can not only fly a BS, but also use it properly. My main char has 8 mill skillpoints, but i'm still fine-tuning some skills before taking her on on real PvP.
If you fly a BS as a n00b, you're not a n00b, but just plain stupid. Also, only fly a BS when you can afford to replace it. Insurance alone doesn't cover it. You need backup money for the modules too.
Learn from this, and consider bugs as a threat and handle them accordingly. In this case, use the autopilot as they said.
But that wasn't your question. I don't have experience petitioning for these kinda request, but don't get your hopes up, thßt i do know |

Dirtball
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Posted - 2004.08.17 19:36:00 -
[105]
That's pretty awesome of your killers to be able to blow up your ship in the 5-10 seconds of time it takes for that bug to go away, or is it just not very awesome of them and very not awesome of you.
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Dirtball
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Posted - 2004.08.17 19:36:00 -
[106]
That's pretty awesome of your killers to be able to blow up your ship in the 5-10 seconds of time it takes for that bug to go away, or is it just not very awesome of them and very not awesome of you.
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