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Mograph
Caldari SwEaTy ArMpIT RaIDeRs The Council.
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Posted - 2009.03.09 18:09:00 -
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To any alliances thinking of allowing Phase-shift corp to join them beware their leader Krenu - He recently joined our alliance and from the begining tried to take over all the command positions making descision on the behalf of the alliance, without consulting any other CEO's Diplomat's Leaders.
Then when we told him not to do that he emoragequit like a little child and hacked into our killboard and forums and deleted most if not all the forum posts and ip banned the leadership - Do not let him have any sort of roles or privalages in your alliance he is not to be trusted.
Mograph - The Council
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Chack'Nul
Gallente Broski Enterprises The Council.
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Posted - 2009.03.09 18:12:00 -
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Sounds about right. He's a trouble-maker, that Krenu.
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HackG
Caldari SwEaTy ArMpIT RaIDeRs The Council.
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Posted - 2009.03.09 18:29:00 -
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He's a unreliable person, don't trust any roles or wallet divisions towards him, nor diplomatic roles. he will try to set you up against your allies. and he will try to takeover your own builded corp/alliance. keep eyes on that guy, or just don't accept him. balls/mouth |
Krenu
Minmatar Phase-Shift
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Posted - 2009.03.09 18:47:00 -
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First off, the reason why we left our other alliance(s) is largly due to the fact that they couldent defend their own space.
Now on the story of council
I joined about two weeks ago, After a few days i was recognized as a leader and made a member of high command. Two weeks went buy, and i was constant praised by many in the alliance, not just the ones who are here, as a great leader and an energetic person.
I tried my best to help this alliance, i contacted old friends and got them jump bridge access among other things, which can all be confirmed by diplos of irons.
as for theift... this is a sad attempt to get back at me. I never had access to anything but my corp wallet, so it was not possible, Doubt me? i can provide api's that show my alts and them never being in any of the holdings corps ect.
The true story is that the leaders of this alliance dident care about their body. I was left to make many of the choices because they are the most un-experienced undedicated group of leaders i have yet to experience. The website and such stuff is true, i sure did ban them from it, but hey, everyone gets ****ed some times, and they cost one of my corp members 7b isk in assets.
Our corp tried to leave this alliance respectfully and tactfully, a nice alliance mail with " nice flying with you but we just dont fit in ", and after that an immidate alliance kick due to us leaving and the so called co-leader throwing a fit about us doing so.
In the end some trolling and such on this manner can be posted, but let it be known that this alliance is piled with a handful of wounderful people ( 3-4 ) and the rest of them are completly know-it all noobs, or leaders who claim to lead by getting drunk and wasted daily.
your choice to follow what you wish and believe, but this sort of spam does only 1 thing for me, allows me to push the report button in hopes that the gms will remove you from the forums.
-kren Drop Bears! Everywhere..... Help! |
Harry Besebes
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.09 18:53:00 -
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SwEaTy ArMpIT RaIDeRs
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Grarr Dexx
Amarr Broski Enterprises The Council.
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Posted - 2009.03.09 19:05:00 -
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Goonfleet
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Delfinu
Gallente Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.09 19:12:00 -
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This is shocking news.
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Venomire
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.09 19:13:00 -
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Originally by: Krenu ... but let it be known that this alliance is piled with a handful of wounderful people ( 3-4 ) and the rest of them are completly know-it all noobs, or leaders who claim to lead by getting drunk and wasted daily.
I like them already.
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Grarr Dexx
Amarr Broski Enterprises The Council.
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Posted - 2009.03.09 19:18:00 -
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Originally by: Venomire
Originally by: Krenu ... but let it be known that this alliance is piled with a handful of wounderful people ( 3-4 ) and the rest of them are completly know-it all noobs, or leaders who claim to lead by getting drunk and wasted daily.
I like them already.
We try
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Eli Porter
Amarr Broski Enterprises The Council.
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Posted - 2009.03.09 19:25:00 -
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They once muted one of our finest quality members for being high on vent and making sounds of brain cells dying. They ruined our fun. Unforgivable.
I don't know about you people, but I'd say that's demonizing enough for a CAOD post.
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HackG
Caldari SwEaTy ArMpIT RaIDeRs The Council.
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Posted - 2009.03.09 19:26:00 -
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And now the real story :
Krenu was in our corp for 1 day. after being a smartass my fella director/ceo kicked him out. after a couple of weeks he tried to come back into alliance with a different corp. we aren't the most hardheaded guys so we're willing to give him a 2nd chance. after a couple of days Krenu was being promoted to campaign leader and he did the job very well. But, after repeatly interphering with the diplomatical stuff and alliance lead. he was told like 10 times not to try get his boot in there. last time we told him he was pretty much annoyed and he started to kick out everybody from his vent (which he had offered earlier for alliance ventrilo). + private convoes with our NC allies trying in an emo-rage to get us neuted. later on he tried to spoil the killboard + forums. in my opinion thats just a kiddo who got too much power he ever could handle. i think there's nuff said about it.
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Ban Dwagon
Gallente Broski Enterprises The Council.
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Posted - 2009.03.09 19:35:00 -
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Originally by: Krenu they cost one of my corp members 7b isk in assets.
because everyone agrees soloing in a kronos is a good idea.
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Mograph
Caldari SwEaTy ArMpIT RaIDeRs The Council.
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Posted - 2009.03.09 19:45:00 -
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look they are smart as well then can post fake kilmails to make them look better than they really are
http://www.battleclinic.com/eve_online/pk/view.php?type=player&name=lylaal&id=6139480&page=1&filter=kills#mail
Or in that case, look like they can post fake killmails
Fail killmail is fail.
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Adeptus mecanicus
Caldari The Flaming Sideburn's CORPVS DELICTI
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Posted - 2009.03.09 20:37:00 -
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saberx has to be on a holliday sine this dramalama ever has taken place
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monomatic
Minmatar SwEaTy ArMpIT RaIDeRs The Council.
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Posted - 2009.03.09 20:39:00 -
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Originally by: Krenu
or leaders who claim to lead by getting drunk and wasted daily.
-kren
tbh hackg drive me to drink and if i had any hair id proberly be bold now
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Chae Csee
Minmatar The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2009.03.09 21:47:00 -
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Originally by: Ban Dwagon
Originally by: Krenu they cost one of my corp members 7b isk in assets.
because everyone agrees soloing in a kronos is a good idea.
That would be running high sec missions in an officer and deadspace fitted t2 rigged Kronos without using an alt scout while having a whole slew of war decs against the alliance (how many does The Council have right now?).
But to a large degree, Krenu is correct... The Council scoops up corps with active war decs.
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Xelios
Minmatar Broski Enterprises The Council.
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Posted - 2009.03.09 22:23:00 -
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Edited by: Xelios on 09/03/2009 22:24:14
Originally by: Chae Csee (how many does The Council have right now?). .
1 active war right now, 1 retracted
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HackG
Caldari SwEaTy ArMpIT RaIDeRs The Council.
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Posted - 2009.03.09 22:36:00 -
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convo from krenu : Krenu > back off or i will post the edited logs on forums, i will make sure they know, and i will make sure iron and the nc knows what kind of people you are!
in my opinion.. emo kid...
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Mograph
Caldari SwEaTy ArMpIT RaIDeRs The Council.
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Posted - 2009.03.09 22:40:00 -
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Originally by: HackG convo from krenu : Krenu > back off or i will post the edited logs on forums, i will make sure they know, and i will make sure iron and the nc knows what kind of people you are!
in my opinion.. emo kid...
note edited forum logs - so he's making them up basically - plus if he wanted proof maybe he shouldnt have deleted the forums - NOOB
oh nother extract from MSN chat
krenum@*****.com (E-mail address not verified) says: I am a member of high command krenum@*****.com (E-mail address not verified) says: or was krenum@*****.com (E-mail address not verified) says: i dont need to answer to diplos krenum@*****.com (E-mail address not verified) says: they are below hc Andrew says:
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Krenu
Minmatar Phase-Shift
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Posted - 2009.03.09 22:42:00 -
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Edited by: Krenu on 09/03/2009 22:43:14
Originally by: HackG convo from krenu : Krenu > back off or i will post the edited logs on forums, i will make sure they know, and i will make sure iron and the nc knows what kind of people you are!
in my opinion.. emo kid...
actually the convo was in msn, so it was more like.
"im not going to debate symantics, Leave us alone, and tell mono that if he does not back off im going to make sure people know who he is, and make sure iron knows what kind of people you are"
IE that the leader(s) of council stole a few billion isk in assets, get drunk nightly, and dont apply effort to their alliance. im done with this emo drama forum stuff, 0/ Drop Bears! Everywhere..... Help! |
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HackG
Caldari SwEaTy ArMpIT RaIDeRs The Council.
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Posted - 2009.03.09 22:46:00 -
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Originally by: Krenu
Originally by: HackG convo from krenu : Krenu > back off or i will post the edited logs on forums, i will make sure they know, and i will make sure iron and the nc knows what kind of people you are!
in my opinion.. emo kid...
actually the convo was in msn, so it was more like.
"im not going to debate symantics, Leave us alone, and tell mono that if he does not back off im going to make sure people know who he is, and make sure iron knows what kind of people you are"
you can turn the words in whatever you like.. you got pretty experienced in it. So go ahead. We got nothing to hide. Atleast we we're the guys who allways been honest about stuff. And now you don't get your boot into your silly plan to takeover our alliance like you planned it, you gonna try to give us a bad name? LOL says more about you my big muslim friend then us. What you think to try looking people bad without any reason only but yourselve? guess what allah is gonna say about that in your agressing manner of bringing it. balls/mouth |
Mograph
Caldari SwEaTy ArMpIT RaIDeRs The Council.
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Posted - 2009.03.09 22:53:00 -
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Interesting comment Krenu Now I wonder how does one amass a fortune of almost 3 billion isk?
hmmm well I look at your employment history within eve and rightly or wrongly cant help but think that you may have stolen your fair share of assets in the past from the 12 differenct corps Youve been in since starting int 2007.
Now your starting an alliance, so you can take all the other corps assets I imagine.
I stand by my first comment- Krenu is not to be trusted. why would we kick him otherwise.
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Nexa Necis
Amarr The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2009.03.09 22:59:00 -
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The Council. seems to be a funny alliance to say the least. They recruited a target of ours and brought war to the entire alliance. They booted the corp we initially dec'd iirc, and we decided to keep the war on for an extra 6 weeks, recruiting people the entire time.
I enjoyed that Kronos kill, and have to say the pilot was a good sport about it. Much better than some of the other people who ragequit corp when they died.
I was amazed that they were even in 0.0 given the odd fittings and poor performance against us, but someone told me they are big buttkissers with IRON and praying that IRON helps them get a foothold in 0.0.
I don't know much about politics and that sort of thing, but I can certainly buy that story as it was told to me.
You haven't seen the last of TRAPS, this I assure you. I am just glad we've inflicted so much more damage than the initial 150mil surrender fee that the Grave Digger corp was offered.
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BogWopit
Amarr Draconian Enforcers Available To Hire
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Posted - 2009.03.09 23:05:00 -
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Krenu stop posting, your only making yourself look more of a fool than the OP makes clear.
Included in your rants thus far have been a few phrases that tickled me inside and really do paint you as a child in charge of interweb pixels. Also, as someone who is supposedly representing a corp you seem to enjoy the word 'I' quite a lot, not a particularly good indicater of a selfless leader and im my humble opinion, which is probably not wanted here but your getting it anyway, gives the impression you are only in it for yourself which is the wrong attitude for any leadership position. The One serves the many, not the other way around.
My advice, quit while your ahead and re-evaluate whether you are cut out for leadership at all.
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HackG
Caldari SwEaTy ArMpIT RaIDeRs The Council.
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Posted - 2009.03.09 23:06:00 -
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Originally by: Nexa Necis The Council. seems to be a funny alliance to say the least. They recruited a target of ours and brought war to the entire alliance. They booted the corp we initially dec'd iirc, and we decided to keep the war on for an extra 6 weeks, recruiting people the entire time.
I enjoyed that Kronos kill, and have to say the pilot was a good sport about it. Much better than some of the other people who ragequit corp when they died.
I was amazed that they were even in 0.0 given the odd fittings and poor performance against us, but someone told me they are big buttkissers with IRON and praying that IRON helps them get a foothold in 0.0.
I don't know much about politics and that sort of thing, but I can certainly buy that story as it was told to me.
You haven't seen the last of TRAPS, this I assure you. I am just glad we've inflicted so much more damage than the initial 150mil surrender fee that the Grave Digger corp was offered.
If you think buttkissing is working together with allies, you just prove your unawareness about any gameplay. and in future post corp/member name who you killed instead of trying to make it a "council"-loss. so goodluck with kissing Krenu's back :) and continue spying on NC like you supposed to, wannabe goon. balls/mouth |
HackG
Caldari SwEaTy ArMpIT RaIDeRs The Council.
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Posted - 2009.03.09 23:07:00 -
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Originally by: Bog***it Krenu stop posting, your only making yourself look more of a fool than the OP makes clear.
Included in your rants thus far have been a few phrases that tickled me inside and really do paint you as a child in charge of interweb pixels. Also, as someone who is supposedly representing a corp you seem to enjoy the word 'I' quite a lot, not a particularly good indicater of a selfless leader and im my humble opinion, which is probably not wanted here but your getting it anyway, gives the impression you are only in it for yourself which is the wrong attitude for any leadership position. The One serves the many, not the other way around.
My advice, quit while your ahead and re-evaluate whether you are cut out for leadership at all.
finally someone with active brains... balls/mouth |
HackG
Caldari SwEaTy ArMpIT RaIDeRs The Council.
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Posted - 2009.03.09 23:14:00 -
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Krenu > can i tell you something how IRON is trying to manipulate you? HackG > ? Krenu > they do not care about anything except theirselve so try to play their game with them we can take the best of it HackG > i dunno where you upto m8 but we have some nice relation with those why trying to come in between? Krenu > i just want to warn you! HackG > no need for, we have enough excuses who plead the difference Krenu > ok fine, you will find it out yourselve in a short time HackG > don't think so i trust them with and we have a good relationship dunno what you want to reach with this? Krenu > nevermind. balls/mouth |
Mograph
Caldari SwEaTy ArMpIT RaIDeRs The Council.
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Posted - 2009.03.09 23:28:00 -
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haha loving how he's now insinuating how IRON are the bad guys as well, especially after he pleaded with them to set him blue so he could get his assets our of pure blind after we kicked his corp.
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Krenu
Minmatar Phase-Shift
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Posted - 2009.03.09 23:35:00 -
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Edited by: Krenu on 09/03/2009 23:36:43 Edited by: Krenu on 09/03/2009 23:35:41 (deleted part not relivent stuff about a blue shotting me)
[ 2009.03.08 21:01:22 ] Krenu > the blue on blue? [ 2009.03.08 21:01:30 ] tyrol > no the joining iron [ 2009.03.08 21:01:33 ] Krenu > no, today. [ 2009.03.08 21:02:08 ] tyrol > oh, noones passed it to us [ 2009.03.08 21:03:24 ] Krenu > are we still blue? [ 2009.03.08 21:03:30 ] Krenu > we have 2 ships in ec- [ 2009.03.08 21:04:07 ] tyrol > council is [ 2009.03.08 21:04:10 ] tyrol > your corp isnt [ 2009.03.08 21:04:26 ] Krenu > mind setting it for 10 so we can try to get the stuff out? [ 2009.03.08 21:04:53 ] tyrol > KK
[ 2009.03.08 21:12:06 ] tyrol > ok your blue [ 2009.03.08 21:12:42 ] Krenu > cheers mate we will move it when the camp breaks later [ 2009.03.08 21:12:48 ] Krenu > ill email you when we have it out [ 2009.03.08 21:12:54 ] tyrol > kk [ 2009.03.08 21:13:02 ] Krenu > fly safe old friend [ 2009.03.08 21:13:05 ] Krenu > o/ [ 2009.03.08 21:13:06 ] tyrol > o/
I do believe we can see mograph,hack and the rest sitting here lying now =) Drop Bears! Everywhere..... Help! |
lylaal
Caldari Phase-Shift
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Posted - 2009.03.09 23:37:00 -
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Originally by: HackG Krenu > can i tell you something how IRON is trying to manipulate you? HackG > ? Krenu > they do not care about anything except theirselve so try to play their game with them we can take the best of it HackG > i dunno where you upto m8 but we have some nice relation with those why trying to come in between? Krenu > i just want to warn you! HackG > no need for, we have enough excuses who plead the difference Krenu > ok fine, you will find it out yourselve in a short time HackG > don't think so i trust them with and we have a good relationship dunno what you want to reach with this? Krenu > nevermind.
WoW, I mean really wow.
Everyone look at Krenu's prievous posts and this grammar and spelling, its perfect and always is now compare it to the quote above, seems different doesn't it? Well people that is becuase it is written by the same guy, HackG. This convo is completely fake, and to even stoop to the level of posting fake convo's is as low as it gets. From that one mistake there you can gaurentee that the rest of their 'truth' is also seriously void.
Have a good day.
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Mirtazapine
Gallente We The People
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Posted - 2009.03.10 00:05:00 -
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Lets bring our Alliance drama to the eve-o forums !!! Such a good idea.
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Venomire
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.10 00:32:00 -
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It's the best idea.
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Krenu
Minmatar Phase-Shift
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Posted - 2009.03.10 01:10:00 -
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We all know that i was not in the area when the fleet got there. and we all know that i was in a logistics ship and warped twice and docked to prevent being popped. We all know that i asked for a back up fc Just as its clear that this forum post has gone from a flame of lies( which i proved), to just a desperate unacceptable level of smack.
get over yourselves and stop making yourselves look immature, to say the least. Drop Bears! Everywhere..... Help! |
Lord StarJacker
Minmatar Broski Enterprises The Council.
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Posted - 2009.03.10 01:15:00 -
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Edited by: Lord StarJacker on 10/03/2009 01:17:20 Edited by: Lord StarJacker on 10/03/2009 01:16:27 I have never in my entire life witnessed such complete incompetence to communicate properly with corpmates. This guy is completely out of his mind. He mutes people on vent so he can go into hour long speaches about islamic nonsense, and gets rage if you say anything that would deter him from his god. He is power hungry, an incompetent FC and most of all, he's just not a nice person to be around. I tried to be nice, kind, and properly diplomatic about issues regarding my corp in the alliance, and this guy just could not accept that he may of been a little rude.
But you know, I see some goons in this thread, so i'll toss you guys a bone.
You have seriously caused psychological damage to this guy. He is delusional.
He speaks of how the goons are loosing the game, about how bobbits are hiding in some system waiting to attack, he rages every night about how much he hates you. He randomly sings the "little bees" song on vent, and types it in the game. He talks about making alliance logos of knives and blood sticking into bees. He hates, rages, and detests goons to an unhealthy level.
Props to you guys.
But back to the topic; He's childish, it's impossible to work with him, power hungry, and most of all
incredibly butthurt and mad.
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Korrakas
Caldari Legion of Ascension Beyond Ascension
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Posted - 2009.03.10 01:26:00 -
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duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude are you by any chance ginger Magician reborn ???
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Queen Boxxy
Caldari Broski Enterprises The Council.
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Posted - 2009.03.10 02:27:00 -
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Originally by: Korrakas duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude are you by any chance ginger Magician reborn ???
Wasn't ginger unbanned recently?
Hmmm maybe?
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Nexa Necis
Amarr The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2009.03.10 02:34:00 -
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Originally by: HackG
If you think buttkissing is working together with allies, you just prove your unawareness about any gameplay. and in future post corp/member name who you killed instead of trying to make it a "council"-loss. so goodluck with kissing Krenu's back :) and continue spying on NC like you supposed to, wannabe goon.
I do think it could be a bit of asskissing on The Council.'s part tbh. I mean the only thing you might offer is just numbers, not much else.
When you're players are shield and armor tanking their Myrms or fitting heavy missiles on their Raven, or people who undock a Hulk while I am at the undock point, fly it to a belt and start mining and lose their second rigged Hulk in 24 hours, or AFK on a gate for an hour with a half fit ship, or rocking a Rokh with ECM mods in mids and ECM boosts in lows with shield rigs and no shield mods fitted, or the pilots who fly their CNR's and then ragequit corp and cry in local, this happened many, many, many times.
I mean if you're a real alliance aimed at working with others, you should be helping each other first. Instead you got a ton of people flying fail setups like the shield and armor tanking Drake, and others shooting their own teammates.
Was that enough links to show that you guys have a ton of ridiculously fitted ships and flaky pilots all over that alliance? Any decent CEO, any decent alliance leader would educate those players. I highly doubt anything like that was done because we have killed the same people with the same oddball fits. I'd say there's easily 20 kills that resulted in the immediate jumping of the corp they were in. Many whining they don't want war or pvp, many not knowing why we even were at war to begin with.
According to several CEO's that left the alliance, there was no real consent to allow Gravediggers into the alliance with the active war on them. I don't know the full story, only what they told me. I can't see them as having a reason to lie.
As far as Krenu goes he never undocked in anything but a shuttle to run back and forth into EC from Torrinos if at all. Are you insinuating he hired us? I came back home today and had several convoes from Council members asking me why we dec'd you. We never dec'd you, you brought in a corp we were at war with, so it transferred to your alliance.
If you guys are struggling in Empire space, you're likely going to be a liability in 0.0. You have crappy tactics, crappy fits, and people who quit after a single loss. That doesn't bode well for your "allies" in 0.0.
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Queen Boxxy
Caldari Broski Enterprises The Council.
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Posted - 2009.03.10 02:41:00 -
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Originally by: Krenu We all know that i was not in the area when the fleet got there. and we all know that i was in a logistics ship and warped twice and docked to prevent being popped. We all know that i asked for a back up fc Just as its clear that this forum post has gone from a flame of lies( which i proved), to just a desperate unacceptable level of smack.
get over yourselves and stop making yourselves look immature, to say the least.
Funny how you change your tune.
[ 2009.03.08 01:09:19 ] Krenu > cs dont matter if its primarywith the [ 2009.03.08 01:09:24 ] Krenu > dps we have we could of took it
I'm not even faking this.
Quote: He mutes people on vent so he can go into hour long speaches about islamic nonsense, and gets rage if you say anything that would deter him from his god.
This is true. I personally wasnt going to bring this up. His personal religion and beliefs as pretaining outside of the game shouldn't matter in caod. However yes. He will go on very long rants about how the world is 6000 years old and etc etc. He mutes you or moves you out of the channel if you speak up against it. He even disabled recording on the vent channel. Saying that we no longer have the rights to record him. He apparently doesnt understand that 3rd party programs can still record.
Quote: But you know, I see some goons in this thread, so i'll toss you guys a bone. You have seriously caused psychological damage to this guy.
The story I vaguely remember is that goons accepted him into goons. Forced him to pay isk to join. When he got to their space. They would kill him.
Something like that. If it's true. Epic win for goons.
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Orebuster
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.10 16:22:00 -
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Originally by: Krenu First off, the reason why we left our other alliance(s) is largly due to the fact that they couldent defend their own space.
Isn't the space of your alliance, also, your space? Weren't you willing to help them defend?
Originally by: Krenu
Now on the story of council
I joined about two weeks ago, After a few days i was recognized as a leader and made a member of high command. Two weeks went buy, and i was constant praised by many in the alliance, not just the ones who are here, as a great leader and an energetic person.
After just a few days they made you a member of high command? That seems unusual, you must have really awesome leadership skills. I'm curious, though, you say you were constantly praised by many in the alliance (not just the ones here). Do you mean, you were constantly praised by many people in the alliance who aren't here now, or you were constantly praised by people who were in alliances outside of Eve online?
Originally by: Krenu I tried my best to help this alliance, i contacted old friends and got them jump bridge access among other things, which can all be confirmed by diplos of irons.
as for theift... this is a sad attempt to get back at me. I never had access to anything but my corp wallet, so it was not possible, Doubt me? i can provide api's that show my alts and them never being in any of the holdings corps ect.
What about being made a member of the high command (420)? Don't you get some hangar access with that level of command?
Originally by: Krenu
The true story is that the leaders of this alliance dident care about their body. I was left to make many of the choices because they are the most un-experienced undedicated group of leaders i have yet to experience. The website and such stuff is true, i sure did ban them from it, but hey, everyone gets ****ed some times, and they cost one of my corp members 7b isk in assets.
How did they cost one of your corp members 7b isk in assets??
Originally by: Krenu Our corp tried to leave this alliance respectfully and tactfully, a nice alliance mail with " nice flying with you but we just dont fit in ", and after that an immidate alliance kick due to us leaving and the so called co-leader throwing a fit about us doing so.
In the end some trolling and such on this manner can be posted, but let it be known that this alliance is piled with a handful of wounderful people ( 3-4 ) and the rest of them are completly know-it all noobs, or leaders who claim to lead by getting drunk and wasted daily.
Aren't the terms "know-it all" and "noobs" mutually exclusive?
Originally by: Krenu your choice to follow what you wish and believe, but this sort of spam does only 1 thing for me, allows me to push the report button in hopes that the gms will remove you from the forums.
-kren
I don't know, maybe if you presented more evidence to back up your arguments, you would have a stronger case. I'm still not sure who to believe.
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Brobuck
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.10 16:36:00 -
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Originally by: Queen Boxxy He has an intense hatred for goonswarm. One that doesn't make sense. I believe what he is trying to do is is ally or join a coalition or alliance with the purpose of attacking and destroying goonswarm.
This is a very alarming charge, if true. How do you respond to this accusation Krenu?
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Rico Naginata
Caldari DEATHFUNK Doctrine.
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Posted - 2009.03.10 18:25:00 -
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Haha both your alliance and your butthurt ex-buddy Krenu sound like absolute nubs.
Please disband or at least move into 0.0 ASAP so you can be put out of your misery.
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Mograph
Caldari SwEaTy ArMpIT RaIDeRs The Council.
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Posted - 2009.03.10 18:55:00 -
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Edited by: Mograph on 10/03/2009 18:59:01
Originally by: Orebuster
After just a few days they made you a member of high command? That seems unusual, you must have really awesome leadership skills. I'm curious, though, you say you were constantly praised by many in the alliance (not just the ones here). Do you mean, you were constantly praised by many people in the alliance who aren't here now, or you were constantly praised by people who were in alliances outside of Eve online?
Being a member of High Command in Our alliance simply means being a CEO of a member Corp or being a Diplomat - We arn't Called The Council becuase 1 guy runs it all and everybody must adhere to his requests, everyhing is discussed beforehand and views opinions shared around
Originally by: Orebuster
What about being made a member of the high command (420)? Don't you get some hangar access with that level of command?
See above: True High Ccommand of the Alliance are the members with alts in the Holding Corp. Those members are the only ones who can affect the descision made by CEO / Diplomat discussion, Krenu was never asked to place an alt into this corp and therefore was never Part of High Command in the truest sense.
He showed he had some skills as an FC and had some good ideas about future campaigns - We listened to them and as we were looking for a dedicated Campaign Leader he seemed at the time to be the Ideal Man, despite the fact he died alot in battles and got us killed he was one of those FC's that made a Descision and stuck to it, which in his defence is something to be praised.
In the end it became clear that Krenu had some Ideas slightly above his station and there was an alarming amount of descision being made on behalf of the alliance that had been undiscussed with the CEO's
I may be quoting wrong here so dont shoot me down - in a conversation on vent Krenu stated that "The best Alliances are run by a dictator who makes the descision and the guys below him go do the work" Unfortunatly thats not how Our Alliance works, We may be a bunch of lazy drunks, but we are lazy drunks together and everyone has a voice (slurred and rambling or not), We are not a one man show we are just one.
Its not just a name.
After he go kiled ratting in space we had been told not to rat in, he decided to quit and for some reason was kicked from the alliance (I wasnt there I only heard what happened) In retaliation to this he Abused some of the privalages I trusted him with and deleted our forum and many killmails from our killboard. In any case this is an unnacceptable response to any situation and simply confirms that he cannot be trusted.
Mograph The Council
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Jaggeh
Gallente Thundercats RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.03.10 19:08:00 -
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wait wat?
who?
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lylaal
Caldari Phase-Shift Unseen Enemy
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Posted - 2009.03.10 20:42:00 -
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Originally by: Orebuster
Originally by: Krenu First off, the reason why we left our other alliance(s) is largly due to the fact that they couldent defend their own space.
Isn't the space of your alliance, also, your space? Weren't you willing to help them defend?
Originally by: Krenu
Now on the story of council
I joined about two weeks ago, After a few days i was recognized as a leader and made a member of high command. Two weeks went buy, and i was constant praised by many in the alliance, not just the ones who are here, as a great leader and an energetic person.
After just a few days they made you a member of high command? That seems unusual, you must have really awesome leadership skills. I'm curious, though, you say you were constantly praised by many in the alliance (not just the ones here). Do you mean, you were constantly praised by many people in the alliance who aren't here now, or you were constantly praised by people who were in alliances outside of Eve online?
Originally by: Krenu I tried my best to help this alliance, i contacted old friends and got them jump bridge access among other things, which can all be confirmed by diplos of irons.
as for theift... this is a sad attempt to get back at me. I never had access to anything but my corp wallet, so it was not possible, Doubt me? i can provide api's that show my alts and them never being in any of the holdings corps ect.
What about being made a member of the high command (420)? Don't you get some hangar access with that level of command?
Originally by: Krenu
The true story is that the leaders of this alliance dident care about their body. I was left to make many of the choices because they are the most un-experienced undedicated group of leaders i have yet to experience. The website and such stuff is true, i sure did ban them from it, but hey, everyone gets ****ed some times, and they cost one of my corp members 7b isk in assets.
How did they cost one of your corp members 7b isk in assets??
Originally by: Krenu Our corp tried to leave this alliance respectfully and tactfully, a nice alliance mail with " nice flying with you but we just dont fit in ", and after that an immidate alliance kick due to us leaving and the so called co-leader throwing a fit about us doing so.
In the end some trolling and such on this manner can be posted, but let it be known that this alliance is piled with a handful of wounderful people ( 3-4 ) and the rest of them are completly know-it all noobs, or leaders who claim to lead by getting drunk and wasted daily.
Aren't the terms "know-it all" and "noobs" mutually exclusive?
Originally by: Krenu your choice to follow what you wish and believe, but this sort of spam does only 1 thing for me, allows me to push the report button in hopes that the gms will remove you from the forums.
-kren
I don't know, maybe if you presented more evidence to back up your arguments, you would have a stronger case. I'm still not sure who to believe.[/quote
1: Majority of the time it was Phase-Shift corp + a couple of IRON alliance and occationally some of the council members that participated in Ops and Camps. We felt there was not enough effort on their part for a 500 member Alliance.
2:He was made high command as Mograph said becuase he was a corp CEO, for the majority of the time in the corp, he was praised by the majority of the people you see in this post but times change i guess.
3:No
4:After we sent the nice alliance mail formally and respectfully letting them know we were leaving, the owner of the alliance logged onto his alt within 2 mins of the mail being posted and kicked us, mean the system turned from blue to neutral when a officer/faction fitted Kronos was just exiting 0.0 space, and was theirfore popped. Along with a BPC of a faction BS.
5: No he meant they were noobs who THOUGHT they knew it all.
6: I just posted to straighten things out, Krenu isn't reading this thread anymore.
Lylaal
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Krenu
Minmatar Phase-Shift Unseen Enemy
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Posted - 2009.03.10 21:10:00 -
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Edited by: Krenu on 10/03/2009 21:10:29 This thread started as a smack talk thread. It went to lies that has been proven to be lies and the such, Examples being how i was accused of stealing such and such, and yet the very people accusing me said i dident have access to the holding corps, so tell me then how did i steal stuff? next we move to how the alliance so graciously make supplication to iron to have us blue so we can get our stuff, i post logs proving once again another lie.
Now the thread has changed to a general smack talk and thread-basing, why? acts of desperation. we are done with this, this will be the final post on the matter from us.
Good day to you gentlemen and gl in your journey in eve.
-Kren
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Queen Boxxy
Caldari Broski Enterprises The Council.
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Posted - 2009.03.10 22:41:00 -
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lylaal you should fix your quotes. You fail at forum.
Quote: 1: Majority of the time it was Phase-Shift corp + a couple of IRON alliance and occationally some of the council members that participated in Ops and Camps. We felt there was not enough effort on their part for a 500 member Alliance.
There's only like 5 of you in the corp. The rest are alts or inactive probably to grant you access to CAOD posting. On top of that. At least 1 person in the corp hated Krenu so much that once they were kicked from the alliance. He immediately quit your corp. Not even just to get access to his goods. He has continued to play; and is playing right now. There's only 3 active players in your corp now. So when we have 30-40man fleets. You guys compose of the majority?
Quote: 2:He was made high command as Mograph said becuase he was a corp CEO, for the majority of the time in the corp, he was praised by the majority of the people you see in this post but times change i guess.
I think the point that was made that Krenu became a dictator. While the actual hierarchy is that we make decisions together. Which wasnt acceptable.
Quote: 4:After we sent the nice alliance mail formally and respectfully letting them know we were leaving, the owner of the alliance logged onto his alt within 2 mins of the mail being posted and kicked us, mean the system turned from blue to neutral when a officer/faction fitted Kronos was just exiting 0.0 space, and was theirfore popped. Along with a BPC of a faction BS.
Half this said mail was in arabic speaking about allah. The english parts were yes fairly nice. You said you were leaving because you fly expensive ships that you lose. I honestly dont see how you can justify this.
Officer/deadspace/faction fitted kronos in dodixie during war. FAIL. Officer/deadspace/faction fitted kronos in 0.0. FAIL.
Neither of those are our fault.
Then Global's Cerb loss. Something like a 30man pure hac gang came around. We had intel they were coming. We had like 10 guys on the gate(The rest were gone off on a roam). We aren't stupid lol. We disappear. He stays on the gate in his cerb. Of the 30 people or so. Only 8 could get on the killmail because he melted so quickly.
Quote: 6: I just posted to straighten things out, Krenu isn't reading this thread anymore.
He isnt? He posted right after you... So lets read what he said.
Quote: This thread started as a smack talk thread.
No. It is an informative thread.
Quote: It went to lies that has been proven to be lies and the such,
proven by who? The goons who have posted are objective and clearly stated that you have posted no evidence.
Quote: Examples being how i was accused of stealing such and such, and yet the very people accusing me said i dident have access to the holding corps,
How about the time lylaal asked in vent for some with a neutral hauler to goto jita, pick up 50 bombs. To which I did. Then when I get it to where it needed to go. Lylaal would only pay 1/5 the cost. aka I want 200mil isk worth of stuff for free. I'm not a moron though.
Quote: Now the thread has changed to a general smack talk and thread-basing, why? acts of desperation. we are done with this, this will be the final post on the matter from us.
You evidently have reading comprehension problems. The thread is about how you are a scumbag and that should not be trusted in any position of power over anything. The posts are posted in order to justify that position.
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CCP Mitnal
Minmatar C C P
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Posted - 2009.03.10 23:50:00 -
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Locked.
This thread has descended into trolling and with numerous breakages of the forum rules I'm locking it.
Do not discuss religion on the forums or make religious references.
Mitnal Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online Email |
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SodiumCyanide
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.11 00:36:00 -
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Originally by: Krenu
-kren
u mad?
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SodiumCyanide
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.11 00:45:00 -
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lol fail mitnal
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Mograph
Caldari SwEaTy ArMpIT RaIDeRs The Council.
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Posted - 2009.03.11 00:55:00 -
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Edited by: Mograph on 11/03/2009 00:56:04 I reported the Moderator to just clean the Religion posts and allow us to post I'm so L33t :)
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Totally Slick
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.11 01:05:00 -
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Edited by: Totally Slick on 11/03/2009 01:05:09 In the matter of SwEaTy ArMpIT RaIDeRs versus Phase-shift I find the defendant totally slick. |
Elo Behram
Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.11 03:01:00 -
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in after the lock ~ |
monomatic
Minmatar SwEaTy ArMpIT RaIDeRs The Council.
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Posted - 2009.03.11 09:32:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Mitnal Locked.
This thread has descended into trolling and with numerous breakages of the forum rules I'm locking it.
Do not discuss religion on the forums or make religious references.
right click ban
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Chairman Lmao
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.11 09:48:00 -
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im posting
IM POSTING
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Mograph
Caldari SwEaTy ArMpIT RaIDeRs The Council.
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Posted - 2009.03.11 11:57:00 -
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Reports came in last night in the Pure Bline Intel channel that Krenu was attacking IRON members in Pure Blind - More evidence he cannot be trusted These reports are yet to be confirmed - just what i read in the intel channel any IRON members want to Comment?
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Nur AlHuda
Amarr Callide Vulpis
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Posted - 2009.03.11 12:17:00 -
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Well you both should think about yourself i mean who the hell names corporation like that at first place.
The arguments are childish at both sides reminds me on 5-10 years old. Smack talk, accusations, thefts, fake conversations, metagaming all in one thread usual caod drama. Who cares if pro or anti goon its your damn business solve it which each other with blasters or whatever.
I dont know who is right or wrong and simply i dont care at this point.
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Wusti
Caldari The New Era HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2009.03.11 12:28:00 -
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Drama-llama ding dong.
Love these threads MOAR please! _______________________
Welcome to The New Era
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