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Owl Algernon Starving Hearts of Darkness	Posted - 2009.03.09 21:24:00 - [1] I've built my own PCs for years and years. However, it's gotten to the point where it's just not cost effective to do so anymore. Buying all my parts online (NewEgg, etc) just winds up costing more than dropping some cash on a Dell or Gateway. So, does anyone have any specific suggestions on a new PC to run EVE well (two clients, etc). My current machine is a dinosaur (AMD 3000+, 2 gigs RAM, NVidia GeForce 7800 GS). I want to run the new EVE client with some of the options up. So, let's hear those suggestions! Specific model numbers are very helpful. Thanks in advance, folks!
Silence Duegood	Posted - 2009.03.09 22:40:00 - [2] I'm not sure I'd call that machine of yours a dinosaur quite yet.
Agent Unknown Caldari	Posted - 2009.03.09 22:51:00 - [3] Jeez, if you call that a dinosaur you should see the old laptop I have 450Mhz PIII, 8MB S3 SavageIX, and 196MB of RAM...whooo... And my "upgrade": 1 GHz PIII, 16MB Trident video card, and 256MB of RAM...mmm... ----------------------------------- "What can go wrong, will go wrong."
Zhora Six	Posted - 2009.03.09 22:59:00 - [4] Just a thought, but you might want to specify a price point. ___________________________________ Always enjoy your virtual synthetic psychotropics in moderation.
Minerva IV Caldari	Posted - 2009.03.09 22:59:00 - [5] Im in a smiler boat althogh mine is a slightly more aged dinosaur but tbh im still thinking of building my own so dont have to have a cookie cutter machine, once you start to customise from a shop the price shoots up and you will never get it how you would like it built. Just my oppinion of course but being able to pick things you want differant to the norm is one of the main reasons to build your own pc.
Minerva IV Caldari	Posted - 2009.03.09 23:01:00 - [6] Originally by: Agent Unknown Jeez, if you call that a dinosaur you should see the old laptop I have 450Mhz PIII, 8MB S3 SavageIX, and 196MB of RAM...whooo... And my "upgrade": 1 GHz PIII, 16MB Trident video card, and 256MB of RAM...mmm... Good luck running premium gfx :S
Sabrage	Posted - 2009.03.09 23:07:00 - [7] Of the computers I have owned, the only ones who have ever had problems have been the ones purchased pre-assembled from OEM's. Notably Gateway, Dell and Apple. While my relevant sample size is rather small (because to be fair, nothing that happened over a decade ago is really relevant), I have never, without hyperbole, even had a blue screen on any of the computers I have personally assembled. Meanwhile, the Gateway stopped being stable a few years ago even running from a live OS, the Dell had it's PSU, Motherboard and Monitor replaced, and the Apple Macbook Pro has seen service three times. An enormous bit of luck and bad luck? Defo. Still doesn't stop me from suspecting that OEM's use substandard components, in particular components that have been returned as DOA and subsequently repaired rather than being "really new". At this point in my ongoing anecdote I'm willing to pay a premium for putting it together myself. Your mileage may vary.
Agent Unknown Caldari	Posted - 2009.03.09 23:14:00 - [8] Originally by: Minerva IV Originally by: Agent Unknown Jeez, if you call that a dinosaur you should see the old laptop I have 450Mhz PIII, 8MB S3 SavageIX, and 196MB of RAM...whooo... And my "upgrade": 1 GHz PIII, 16MB Trident video card, and 256MB of RAM...mmm... Good luck running premium gfx :S This is why I have a desktop.... ----------------------------------- "What can go wrong, will go wrong."
Owl Algernon Starving Hearts of Darkness	Posted - 2009.03.09 23:25:00 - [9] Originally by: Zhora Six Just a thought, but you might want to specify a price point. Good point. Edited the OP to include one.
Elysarian Minmatar dudetruck corp	Posted - 2009.03.09 23:32:00 - [10] Seriously: save your cash, if you have an AM2+ board in there then get yourself some more RAM, a better gfx card and a Phenom II. Failing that, you can get an AM2+ board for less than $50 my 8800's (2 of), Phenom II 940 black edition and AM2+ board came in at less than $600. ===================================== It smells of spoon! =====================================

SadisticSavior Caldari	Posted - 2009.03.09 23:32:00 - [11] I had a 7800GS and upgraded to an 8600 and noticed a significant improvement. Both in quality and framerate. And 8600s are cheap. But you will have to upgrade your motherboard to PCIe...I think the 7800GS is as good as it gets if you have AGP. Dual/Multi core will improve multiple clients. Dual core system are pretty cheap nowadays too. I got a 3ghz dual core w/vista premium and 3 gigs ram for $250 at Best Buy (though I got lucky with my timing...normal price was $500). I shoehorned a GeForce 8600 on it (it technically requires a 350 watt power supply...this system only has a 300...and a MicroAT at that, so it will be expensive to upgrade). If your system is already PCIe, you should be able to get a significant performance boost cheap. (Reunification is Coming)
Owl Algernon Starving Hearts of Darkness	Posted - 2009.03.09 23:38:00 - [12] Originally by: SadisticSavior I had a 7800GS and upgraded to an 8600 and noticed a significant improvement. Both in quality and framerate. And 8600s are cheap. But you will have to upgrade your motherboard to PCIe...I think the 7800GS is as good as it gets if you have AGP. Dual/Multi core will improve multiple clients. Dual core system are pretty cheap nowadays too. I got a 3ghz dual core w/vista premium and 3 gigs ram for $250 at Best Buy (though I got lucky with my timing...normal price was $500). I shoehorned a GeForce 8600 on it (it technically requires a 350 watt power supply...this system only has a 300...and a MicroAT at that, so it will be expensive to upgrade). If your system is already PCIe, you should be able to get a significant performance boost cheap. That's my exact problem. I built this to be a last generation AGP machine, as good as it gets for the end of the line. I'm going to have to go from the ground up with a PCIe machine. Dual/Quad core is a must because, as you so wisely mentioned, it makes a big deal for multiple clients. I've been leaning toward doing precisely what you did, and buying a cheap base model and throwing a great video card and more RAM into it. I'll look into BestBuy, which is a plus, as I have a solid line of credit with them and they are having a special on no interest for a year on purchases of $500 or more.
cpt Mark	Posted - 2009.03.09 23:41:00 - [13] why don't you just buy yourself a nice graphics card for 100 USD? your RAM is fine, your processor i'm not sure. Your graphics card is ancient (although mine is worse!)
Prodigy System Amarr Red Horizon Inc	Posted - 2009.03.10 00:13:00 - [14] Well, I own a company that builds various systems, predominately gaming rigs and servers. If Dell etc were actually any good I would have been out of business a long time ago. As it happens alot of the work my company does is fixing the "cackboxes" these big oem companies throw out the door by the bucketload. I'm not sure on the rules of advertising so I wont link my companies website here but you or anyone else can convo me in-game for details.
Trebor Notlimah Lone Star EVE Group Veni Vidi Vici	Posted - 2009.03.10 01:22:00 - [15] I'd still build the machine instead of going Dell/pre-built. You can get SO much more doing it yourself. For $1000 you can basically upgrade to a new Intel Core i7 system (sexy quad core) if you keep you'r old HDDs, video card, and case.
Khlitouris RegusII	Posted - 2009.03.10 01:24:00 - [16] Originally by: Owl Algernon Edited by: Owl Algernon on 09/03/2009 23:25:54 I've built my own PCs for years and years. However, it's gotten to the point where it's just not cost effective to do so anymore. Buying all my parts online (NewEgg, etc) just winds up costing more than dropping some cash on a Dell or Gateway. So, does anyone have any specific suggestions on a new PC to run EVE well (two clients, etc). My current machine is a dinosaur (AMD 3000+, 2 gigs RAM, NVidia GeForce 7800 GS). I want to run the new EVE client with some of the options up. So, let's hear those suggestions! Specific model numbers are very helpful. My price point is ~$1000 USD. Under that is a bonus. And I don't need a monitor, my Dell 2001FP is still going strong. Thanks in advance, folks! Never ever buy a prebuilt piece of ****e from dell etc if your gonna buy a pre built pc buy one from people who actually know how to put together a decent pc. of course i'd always recommend building it yourself.
Khlitouris RegusII	Posted - 2009.03.10 01:43:00 - [17] As an example my friend bought a dell netbook mini 10 i believe it's called it comes with a 8 gig ssd and has over 7 gig of crap installed it cant be used as it runs out of virtual memory 5 minutes after powering on, i will be reinstalling a cut down windows xp for him so he can actually use it.


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