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Shepard Book Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 44	Posted - 2012.04.27 12:56:00 - [1] - Quote I have heard it mentioned as an idea for many months now but never stated as a feature coming out. I for one would really like to see it happen. I believe CCP can learn from the leasons of T3 cruisers and make the roll out even better this time. Can we get any word on this please? PS We are still waiting for covert cynos on Covert T3 cruisers
Nirnias Stirrum Ore Mongers BricK sQuAD. 111	Posted - 2012.04.27 12:59:00 - [2] - Quote Wheres the dislike button? I cant find it!
Skippermonkey Tactical Knightmare 934	Posted - 2012.04.27 13:00:00 - [3] - Quote there shouldnt be any other T3 ship type other than cruisers ever My homeboys tried to warn me But that butt you got makes me so horny
Shepard Book Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 44	Posted - 2012.04.27 13:00:00 - [4] - Quote Nirnias Stirrum wrote: Wheres the dislike button? I cant find it! You have been waiting to get me back huh. Hehe, good show. Thanks for the bump!
Shepard Book Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 44	Posted - 2012.04.27 13:03:00 - [5] - Quote Skippermonkey wrote: there shouldnt be any other T3 ship type other than cruisers ever I am pretty sure worm hole people, new players, and other veterans would disagree with you. Thanks for your opinion though.
Nirnias Stirrum Ore Mongers BricK sQuAD. 111	Posted - 2012.04.27 13:15:00 - [6] - Quote Shepard Book wrote: Nirnias Stirrum wrote: Wheres the dislike button? I cant find it! You have been waiting to get me back huh. Hehe, good show. Thanks for the bump! Im not sure what your refering to to be honest with you :D Did you post in a topic i made at some stage? :P
Vertisce Soritenshi Varion Galactic Tragedy. 1581	Posted - 2012.04.27 13:20:00 - [7] - Quote Title is misleading... We talking Tech 3 or Tier 3...never can be really sure anymore. I am all for new ships and designs...especially of the Tech 3 kind because they are more customizable in designs making them a little more unique to each person. Sorta... Unfortunately, introducing new ships for the sake of new ships is a bad idea. They need to have a purpose and a reason for existing first. After that I am all for it. EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!!
Lucas Schuyler Mortis Noir. Ineluctable. 16	Posted - 2012.04.27 13:30:00 - [8] - Quote The problem with new Tech 3 ships is you need a really good plan for their capabilities. Just taking T3 Cruisers and doing the same thing but in a smaller hull is kind of pointless. What is going to be the role of these modular... destroyers? From where I sit, Cruisers work because they are already a very generalist ship class, Combat ships, Recon Ships, Logistics, etc. Cruiser hulls were already used for a wide variety of purposes. The gold standard of general purpose. Destroyers are an anti-frigate platform and for interdiction... That is not a lot to work with for a modular design. And on the PVE side... what Destroyer can be expected to stand up to Sleepers? It really doesn't have the requisite PVE niche.
Hicksimus Red Dwarf Mining Corporation space weaponry and trade 99	Posted - 2012.04.27 13:53:00 - [9] - Quote I would love to buy a covert nullified destroyer with a sig radius of 1 and 150k ehp. But I'm not sure that would be good for anything other than trolling. Things I have realized from the EvE forums: Many people beleive cost means money and only money
Michael1995 Lead Farmers Academy Kill It With Fire 9	Posted - 2012.04.27 14:01:00 - [10] - Quote Last I heard the next shipment of T3 goodies would be coming out in 2013 at the earliest, unless things have changed. One does not simply buy their way into Goonswarm.
Shepard Book Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 44	Posted - 2012.04.27 21:46:00 - [11] - Quote Nirnias Stirrum wrote: Shepard Book wrote: Nirnias Stirrum wrote: Wheres the dislike button? I cant find it! You have been waiting to get me back huh. Hehe, good show. Thanks for the bump! Im not sure what your refering to to be honest with you :D Did you post in a topic i made at some stage? :P I used same verbiage not to far back hehe
Shepard Book Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 44	Posted - 2012.04.27 21:47:00 - [12] - Quote Vertisce Soritenshi wrote: Title is misleading... We talking Tech 3 or Tier 3...never can be really sure anymore. I am all for new ships and designs...especially of the Tech 3 kind because they are more customizable in designs making them a little more unique to each person. Sorta... Unfortunately, introducing new ships for the sake of new ships is a bad idea. They need to have a purpose and a reason for existing first. After that I am all for it. Yeah, Your right thanks and I will update it. Tech 3 all the way!
Shepard Book Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 44	Posted - 2012.04.27 21:49:00 - [13] - Quote Lucas Schuyler wrote: The problem with new Tech 3 ships is you need a really good plan for their capabilities. Just taking T3 Cruisers and doing the same thing but in a smaller hull is kind of pointless. What is going to be the role of these modular... destroyers? From where I sit, Cruisers work because they are already a very generalist ship class, Combat ships, Recon Ships, Logistics, etc. Cruiser hulls were already used for a wide variety of purposes. The gold standard of general purpose. Destroyers are an anti-frigate platform and for interdiction... That is not a lot to work with for a modular design. And on the PVE side... what Destroyer can be expected to stand up to Sleepers? It really doesn't have the requisite PVE niche. Good questions. I have seen quite a few ideas in the CSM and features areas that could be incorporated.
Jayrendo Karr Suns Of Korhal Terran Commonwealth 61	Posted - 2012.04.27 21:58:00 - [14] - Quote I despide Tech 3 cruisers and what they stand for. The tengu/loki/proteus all need nerfs, tbh the Legion is what tech 3's should be. Adaptable to an extent but against a ship fit for the same role it should be subpar.
Shepard Book Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 44	Posted - 2012.04.27 21:58:00 - [15] - Quote Hicksimus wrote: I would love to buy a covert nullified destroyer with a sig radius of 1 and 150k ehp. But I'm not sure that would be good for anything other than trolling. Trolls gotta fly too hehe. Interdictor along with stealth ships are my favorite ships TBH. I am not sure I like the idea but a limited anti stealth destroyer is one idea for modular I could see working, Id like it to be a short range anti stealth bubble so it could still be countered though. Same size as current dictor bubble I think is a place for them but it should never make flying stealth obsolete. I believe we could take on the challenge as long as it is not grid wide. Maybe the same size as current bubbles could work though. I think it is important to remove local as an intel tool before any kind of counter or nerf to stealth comes in though. Maybe even a mini command with one slot for a command module? Id really like to see a T3 stealther dictor to be able to travel with Black Ops BS. Just a few ideas. I am not claiming any as my own.
Shepard Book Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 44	Posted - 2012.04.27 21:59:00 - [16] - Quote Michael1995 wrote: Last I heard the next shipment of T3 goodies would be coming out in 2013 at the earliest, unless things have changed. Thanks for the heads up. I wish we could get some confirmation.
ITTigerClawIK Galactic Rangers 113	Posted - 2012.04.27 22:00:00 - [17] - Quote can we please get a teir 2 destroyer before we even consider "TECH 3" destroyer here?
Shepard Book Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 44	Posted - 2012.04.27 22:01:00 - [18] - Quote Jayrendo Karr wrote: I despide Tech 3 cruisers and what they stand for. The tengu/loki/proteus all need nerfs, tbh the Legion is what tech 3's should be. Adaptable to an extent but against a ship fit for the same role it should be subpar. I have the skills ( Mains ) for all of them but mainly I have flown the Loki so can't say from personal experience but the trolls seem to talk about tengu a lot.
Shepard Book Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 44	Posted - 2012.04.27 22:02:00 - [19] - Quote ITTigerClawIK wrote: can we please get a teir 2 destroyer before we even consider "TECH 3" destroyer here? Interdictors fill that role I thought.
Dbars Grinding Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation 484	Posted - 2012.04.27 22:10:00 - [20] - Quote Jayrendo Karr wrote: I despide Tech 3 cruisers and what they stand for. The tengu/loki/proteus all need nerfs, tbh the Legion is what tech 3's should be. Adaptable to an extent but against a ship fit for the same role it should be subpar. let me translate. "i am angry i didnt train for a tengu loki or proteus" I have more space likes than you.-á
Belshazzar Babylon Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 26	Posted - 2012.04.28 05:24:00 - [21] - Quote We don't even have Tier 2 destroyers hulls. I don't see Tech 3 destroyers coming soon.
Corbin Blair Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 55	Posted - 2012.04.28 05:35:00 - [22] - Quote Skippermonkey wrote: there shouldnt be any other T3 ship type other than cruisers ever Care to offer a reason or did you just want to spam?
Destination SkillQueue Are We There Yet 2310	Posted - 2012.04.28 05:42:00 - [23] - Quote Dbars Grinding wrote: Jayrendo Karr wrote: I despide Tech 3 cruisers and what they stand for. The tengu/loki/proteus all need nerfs, tbh the Legion is what tech 3's should be. Adaptable to an extent but against a ship fit for the same role it should be subpar. let me translate. "i am angry i didnt train for a tengu loki or proteus" I doubt it. I like my T3, but I don't like that I don't even have to think about whether or not to use them. They should be sub par to specialized ships, but be more adaptable. Currently they are more adaptable and often also better than the specialized ships, so why on earth would I fly something else, if my wallet can take it? A mix of T3 ability nerfs and boosts to specialized hulls should be enough to bring things in line and at least make using them a bit less obvious choice in some cases.
Jayrendo Karr Suns Of Korhal Terran Commonwealth 65	Posted - 2012.04.28 05:59:00 - [24] - Quote Dbars Grinding wrote: Jayrendo Karr wrote: I despide Tech 3 cruisers and what they stand for. The tengu/loki/proteus all need nerfs, tbh the Legion is what tech 3's should be. Adaptable to an extent but against a ship fit for the same role it should be subpar. let me translate. "i am angry i didnt train for a tengu loki or proteus" I could be in a tengu in less than an hour, but i refuse too.
Kietay Ayari Caldari State 353	Posted - 2012.04.28 06:06:00 - [25] - Quote Skippermonkey wrote: there shouldnt be any other T3 ship type other than cruisers ever I agreeee. I love the Tengu most and I hope there are never any new T3 ships added even in seven billion years. Ferox #1
Nariya Kentaya Tartarus Ventures Surely You're Joking 179	Posted - 2012.04.28 06:11:00 - [26] - Quote Shepard Book wrote: Skippermonkey wrote: there shouldnt be any other T3 ship type other than cruisers ever I am pretty sure worm hole people, new players, and other veterans would disagree with you. Thanks for your opinion though. no, more tier 3's would just obsolete even more ships, i eman, holy crap, think of the ridiculous amount fo DPS a NORMAL destroyer can get, now slap some T3 specialties on that mofo, you LITERALLY have an "i kill everything" ship.
Nariya Kentaya Tartarus Ventures Surely You're Joking 179	Posted - 2012.04.28 06:13:00 - [27] - Quote Jayrendo Karr wrote: I despide Tech 3 cruisers and what they stand for. The tengu/loki/proteus all need nerfs, tbh the Legion is what tech 3's should be. Adaptable to an extent but against a ship fit for the same role it should be subpar. your RIGHT, 700mil should buy you a ship that will NEVER outperform ANYTHING, it amkes perfect since, paying more for less, with the threat of insta-losing SP if you dont eject in time, is TOTALY gonna make people want to even own a T3 of any kind.
Kietay Ayari Caldari State 353	Posted - 2012.04.28 06:38:00 - [28] - Quote For the person who said make them more adaptable but less efficient at specific roles. Only if you are able to change roles instantly anywhere in space with ease. Otherwise being able to dock and change roles is the same as switching to a new ship. Ferox #1
MotherMoon Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic 574	Posted - 2012.04.28 07:01:00 - [29] - Quote the art for tech 3 frigates is rumored to be done, I'd like to see that. frigates as expensive as battleships, cool.
Valerie Tessel Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 112	Posted - 2012.04.28 23:00:00 - [30] - Quote I would like to see new kinds of tech 1 destroyers. In particular Aegis destroyers. Please support my proposal.

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