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Lilly Striker
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Posted - 2009.03.10 16:53:00 -
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With the new patch a new attribute needs to be introduced to the character sales: the attribute re-spec counter.
Since only once a year this re-spec process can take place, I'd propose that it become a standard attribute in every character sale/trade, since it has some significance on what can be trained how fast with the character.
Something like:
- re-spec possible
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- next re-spec in 154 days
Ofc characters with re-spec still available would be valued higher.
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Merchaltofme
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Posted - 2009.03.10 16:54:00 -
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agreed this is a rather large factor now
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Jagged F'el
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Posted - 2009.03.10 16:56:00 -
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Agreed - I wonder if that will stop people from re-spec'ing the attributes today if they only gain 1-2 more points in a certain area. |
Inari Darmtu
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Posted - 2009.03.10 17:06:00 -
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hmm - interesting point raised here.
How about a timer reset upon character x-fere? Would make things a lost easier, save CCP a load of hassle (in as much as people missing it off sales threads / not mentioning it and then a petition being logged for being scammed). Also is a potential money make if people want to reset their attributes before the timer is up?
if thats not a goer then it needs to be specified in the sales threads what the current "adjustment" is, or even provide a screenshot to the adjustment screen? That should make sense to the main of people?
Inari
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Merchaltofme
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Posted - 2009.03.10 17:08:00 -
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^ no sorry that would lead to explotation, people should just be required to post how long until they can reset attributes
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Gerdan BloodELF
Shade.
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Posted - 2009.03.10 17:08:00 -
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yes a valid point lilly...
but tbh what ccp does to the game and what they enforce here is crazy : /
Like no assets now to be sent with a char lol
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Inari Darmtu
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Posted - 2009.03.10 17:09:00 -
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Originally by: Merchaltofme ^ no sorry that would lead to explotation, people should just be required to post how long until they can reset attributes
But it would be expensive to do it, 20 Euro's a bash? Not going to lie to you bud, but I don't care that much about my character.
However - you do raise a valid point. :)
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Lord Ryan
Lord Ryan Productions
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Posted - 2009.03.10 19:02:00 -
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so if i don't respec a character and sale it the new owner will be able to respec it? do you know for sure this is possible? does it say somewhere that the new owner won't be able to respec if you have already?
Thank you!
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Crux Belgor
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Posted - 2009.03.10 22:19:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Ryan so if i don't respec a character and sale it the new owner will be able to respec it? do you know for sure this is possible? does it say somewhere that the new owner won't be able to respec if you have already?
Thank you!
Good point, we need a Dev to shine some light into this |
Rudolf Miller
Dawn of a new Empire The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.03.10 22:41:00 -
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/signed
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Lilly Striker
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Posted - 2009.03.10 22:56:00 -
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I didn't even thought of the possibility, that the re-spec counter may be reset after a character transfer, but then again I very much doubt that'd happen.
However, then CCP would have to setup a rule for the re-spec counter, which they'd have to enforce and to me it looks like this will be very very hard. Probably the best way to do this is to add this as a field to the api data, so api skillsheet sites like eve-sheet can extract that information and display how much longer till next respec.
Comments / Ideas ? |
Naomi Halloran
Gallente InterSystem Industries
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Posted - 2009.03.10 23:39:00 -
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Originally by: Merchaltofme ^ no sorry that would lead to explotation
Care to explain how? ---
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QuazTempCEO
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Posted - 2009.03.10 23:56:00 -
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Originally by: Naomi Halloran
Originally by: Merchaltofme ^ no sorry that would lead to explotation
Care to explain how?
In a nutshell people would trasnfer toons between their accounts to keep respeccing, ok so its 20$ but say you are training for carrier 5 etc, then the 20$ would be nothing for time saved.
It would have the effect on game that gtc sales do ;)
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CCP Mitnal
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Posted - 2009.03.11 05:57:00 -
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Thanks for this, it's certainly something we'll look into and discuss with our colleagues in customer support and come back with a decision.
For now, it would be nice to see players voluntarily giving this information in character sale threads.
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Lecero
Minmatar Black Elite StarFleet Federation
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Posted - 2009.03.17 20:57:00 -
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Edited by: Lecero on 17/03/2009 21:00:04 Well if CCP did reset the timer on redist SP on character transfer, if someone is willing to spend the 20 bucks just to respec, hell i say why not make more money?
In that case then why not just add a 20 dollar/euro Attribute reset to the accounts management page.
Sure give us free stuff as much as you want, but you know there are those out there who would pay real money to get something a little quicker or more often.
However with that mind set - CCP could make alot of extra income by selling cans of SP... heh SPinach anyone... SPinach = Skill Points In A Cargo Hold
So there has to be a limit on things... if i made the call I guess the green looks better...
Well, my post, as usual; absolutely pointless
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Rjahl
Gravimetrics Industries
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Posted - 2009.03.18 01:13:00 -
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Edited by: Rjahl on 18/03/2009 01:17:56
Originally by: Lecero Edited by: Lecero on 17/03/2009 21:00:04 Well if CCP did reset the timer on redist SP on character transfer, if someone is willing to spend the 20 bucks just to respec, hell i say why not make more money?
In that case then why not just add a 20 dollar/euro Attribute reset to the accounts management page.
Sure give us free stuff as much as you want, but you know there are those out there who would pay real money to get something a little quicker or more often.
However with that mind set - CCP could make alot of extra income by selling cans of SP... heh SPinach anyone... SPinach = Skill Points In A Cargo Hold
So there has to be a limit on things... if i made the call I guess the green looks better...
Well, my post, as usual; absolutely pointless
Thank you.. Thank you for that.. I really needed a laugh.
Also, while we are on the subject of skill points.
I know for my character i trained some skills i thought would have been awesome to have, however now (mostly that i know better) the skills are not very useful to me. Could CCP possibly charge a 50euro fee for say, redistributing your skill points?
Attributes are fine and all.. however i know a few people would love to be able to get rid of some certain skills in place for others.
Of course limit the 'respec' to one per account per year.
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Khanak Hryad
Amarr We See Dead People Visions of Warfare
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Posted - 2009.03.27 17:13:00 -
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Originally by: Lecero
However with that mind set - CCP could make alot of extra income by selling cans of SP... heh SPinach anyone... SPinach = Skill Points In A Cargo Hold
lol'd
OP has a good point though. Maybe characters need some sort of semi-public indicator of how many respec's are available, or if none, when it becomes available. Maybe make it part of the character export information, just tack it on right under the character's attributes...
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Ms Leonora
Leonora Corporation
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Posted - 2009.05.02 23:17:00 -
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Edited by: Ms Leonora on 02/05/2009 23:17:38
Originally by: Rjahl
Thank you.. Thank you for that.. I really needed a laugh.
Also, while we are on the subject of skill points.
I know for my character i trained some skills i thought would have been awesome to have, however now (mostly that i know better) the skills are not very useful to me. Could CCP possibly charge a 50euro fee for say, redistributing your skill points?
Attributes are fine and all.. however i know a few people would love to be able to get rid of some certain skills in place for others.
Of course limit the 'respec' to one per account per year.
I asked this question via a petition not so long ago. Specifically I asked if I could have a couple of skills removed. I trained them to a combined total of around 2 mil SP and wondered if they could simply be removed as I will never use them. The petition response was that CCP will not interfere with a characters skill training "to maintain the integrity of the character" so I can guarantee they will not redistribute SP.
As far as attribute remaps go I would like to see the limit lowered in some fashion from the year timer we currently have. When it was originally trialed on SiSi the first timer was 6 months plus a 5 mil ISK fee. I think this was better than the year timer we have now however CCP must have seen some reason to double the limit. Perhaps the timer could be left at a year with an option to pay ISK or RL cash after 6 months through account transfer / management panel option to change the attributes again and start the year timer off again ...
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CCP Mitnal
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Posted - 2009.05.17 16:54:00 -
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Unstickied.
As this has become common, either for OPs to mention or to be asked in the thread, I'm unstickying this.
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