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Jack Dant Minmatar The Gentlemen of Low Moral Fibre	Posted - 2009.03.10 17:02:00 - [1] I notice neither cans nor wrecks show up on directional scan anymore. Miners in busy systems will be much safer, as can flippers will have to check every belt instead of using directional scan to look for named cans. Same with wrecks, means you can't see how far along a missioner is before warping to him (or check that he's not doing recon 3/3). Good job CCP :(
Smacktalking Alt	Posted - 2009.03.10 17:08:00 - [2] All this has happened before and will happen again. ------------------------------------------------- The world is a dangerous place for stupid people; their one advantage is strength in numbers.
Nexus Kinnon Genos Occidere	Posted - 2009.03.10 17:10:00 - [3] Pretty sure wrecks were removed a few patches ago tbh Originally by: Sol'Kanar I am the spermicidal cream to your semen of lies.
Kavu Genos Occidere	Posted - 2009.03.10 17:11:00 - [4] Originally by: Nexus Kinnon Pretty sure wrecks were removed a few patches ago tbh they also removed me from the OV so you cant see me comin when i ninja YOUR STUPID FACE
Count MonteCarlo Native Freshfood	Posted - 2009.03.10 17:11:00 - [5] Freeforms also got nerfed, you can't edit font size, nor add color anymore
Le Poupon Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2009.03.10 17:24:00 - [6] Originally by: Kavu Originally by: Nexus Kinnon Pretty sure wrecks were removed a few patches ago tbh they also removed me from the OV so you cant see me comin when i ninja YOUR STUPID FACE So they essentialy just made you fly a wreck instead of waiting for you to get shot up? -------sig------------------------------------ A higher grade of posting
Grann Thefauto Minmatar Internal Anarchy	Posted - 2009.03.10 17:27:00 - [7] Edited by: Grann Thefauto on 10/03/2009 17:27:18 This happened a while ago also. It was really annoying then and is still annoying now. It needs to be fixed. Edit: The can thing that is.
Jack Dant Minmatar The Gentlemen of Low Moral Fibre	Posted - 2009.03.10 17:31:00 - [8] Funny, from patch notes: Quote: Secure audit log containers will now display properly on a directional scan if they are in space and in range. I guess "properly" means "not at all". Just tried with secure cans and audit cans, not on scan. Plus, the directional scan doesn't even remember which column to sort by.
Filthy Pervert Eve Banking Solutions	Posted - 2009.03.10 17:38:00 - [9] Originally by: Count MonteCarlo Freeforms also got nerfed, you can't edit font size, nor add color anymore Knew this would happen sooner rather than later , I for one made well in excess of 40 billion in a short time tho so cant complain,
Matrix Skye Caldari	Posted - 2009.03.10 17:42:00 - [10] Originally by: Jack Dant I notice neither cans nor wrecks show up on directional scan anymore. Miners in busy systems will be much safer, as can flippers will have to check every belt instead of using directional scan to look for named cans. Same with wrecks, means you can't see how far along a missioner is before warping to him (or check that he's not doing recon 3/3). Good job CCP :( NOOOOOOOO! why you do this ccp? :( i play eve for this reason this game is sandbox and i can ninja and p*ss other players off but now this game is no sandbax because i cant do those things. and you said in game that we can do whatever we want but then you take aways things so we can have fun like grief players but isnt this sandbox game where we can do anything we want? no not really so please ccp make this game true sandbox so i can have my fun again.

Le Poupon Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2009.03.10 17:44:00 - [11] Originally by: Matrix Skye Originally by: Jack Dant I notice neither cans nor wrecks show up on directional scan anymore. Miners in busy systems will be much safer, as can flippers will have to check every belt instead of using directional scan to look for named cans. Same with wrecks, means you can't see how far along a missioner is before warping to him (or check that he's not doing recon 3/3). Good job CCP :( NOOOOOOOO! why you do this ccp? :( i play eve for this reason this game is sandbox and i can ninja and pss other players off but now this game is no sandbax because i cant do those things. and you said in game that we can do whatever we want but then you take aways things so we can have fun like grief players but isnt this sandbox game where we can do anything we want? no not really so please ccp make this game true sandbox so i can have my fun again. This. Oh wait its matrix. Troll. Am I doing it right? -------sig------------------------------------ A high*er grade of posting
Fisher Boss	Posted - 2009.03.10 17:48:00 - [12] alts, cov-ops, or intel channels. Hell ran an op for a corp not to be named, where they were dealing with competition in a system. They would let us know belt and make up of said competition... we would warp a cloaked ship in to get the bookmarks needed. And then come in and steal the ore driving the others out of the system... Adapt or die off... that is the eve way. I's an alt... with a purpose and use! Other than as a forum alt.
simply cheese	Posted - 2009.03.10 17:51:00 - [13] Originally by: Matrix Skye NOOOOOOOO! why you do this ccp? :( i play eve for this reason this game is sandbox and i can ninja and p*ss other players off but now this game is no sandbax because i cant do those things. and you said in game that we can do whatever we want but then you take aways things so we can have fun like grief players but isnt this sandbox game where we can do anything we want? no not really so please ccp make this game true sandbox so i can have my fun again. should look into joining goonswarm and do it on a higher level
Count MonteCarlo Native Freshfood	Posted - 2009.03.10 17:59:00 - [14] Originally by: Filthy Pervert Originally by: Count MonteCarlo Freeforms also got nerfed, you can't edit font size, nor add color anymore Knew this would happen sooner rather than later , I for one made well in excess of 40 billion in a short time tho so cant complain, Yea, if you knew how to find the targets, and you're dedicated, you'd make a lot on it, but to be honest with you they will still work, just you can't make fancy formats anymore
RedSplat Heretic Army	Posted - 2009.03.10 18:07:00 - [15] Originally by: Count MonteCarlo Yea, if you knew how to find the targets, and you're dedicated, you'd make a lot on it, but to be honest with you they will still work, just you can't make fancy formats anymore Been a good week for you hasn't it jealous [i] Ransom List Project: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=999677&page=1
Nexus Kinnon Genos Occidere	Posted - 2009.03.10 18:13:00 - [16] Originally by: RedSplat Originally by: Count MonteCarlo Yea, if you knew how to find the targets, and you're dedicated, you'd make a lot on it, but to be honest with you they will still work, just you can't make fancy formats anymore Been a good week for you hasn't it jealous I could go through my msn logs and just get annoyed in the previous week reading my chats w/garm on this "hi, made 2.8b today" "made 800m today" etc Originally by: Sol'Kanar I am the spermicidal cream to your semen of lies.
Filthy Pervert Eve Banking Solutions	Posted - 2009.03.10 18:47:00 - [17] Originally by: Nexus Kinnon Originally by: RedSplat Originally by: Count MonteCarlo Yea, if you knew how to find the targets, and you're dedicated, you'd make a lot on it, but to be honest with you they will still work, just you can't make fancy formats anymore Been a good week for you hasn't it jealous I could go through my msn logs and just get annoyed in the previous week reading my chats w/garm on this "hi, made 2.8b today" "made 800m today" etc Sounds about right , once made just under 6 billion isk in under 10 minutes from a russian 2003 player. He was wanting to buy a lot of gtc and was accepting the contracts as fast as i could fail and resend them. In the end he snt me a message ' i can no longer accept your contracts , what happen ? '
Max Carson	Posted - 2009.03.10 21:07:00 - [18] Originally by: Smacktalking Alt All this has happened before and will happen again. No you could see the wrecks on the directional scanner before this patch. Made it alot easier to figure out if you wanted to jump through someone elses mission gate. You could watch from outside and see if the mission runner was salvaging his stuff.
Smacktalking Alt	Posted - 2009.03.10 22:32:00 - [19] Edited by: Smacktalking Alt on 10/03/2009 22:32:39 Originally by: Max Carson Originally by: Smacktalking Alt All this has happened before and will happen again. No you could see the wrecks on the directional scanner before this patch. Made it alot easier to figure out if you wanted to jump through someone elses mission gate. You could watch from outside and see if the mission runner was salvaging his stuff. I'm pretty sure there was a major patch in the past where they took wrecks off the directional scanner, and subsequently changed it back in a later patch, only to apparently start the same cycle again today. ------------------------------------------------- The world is a dangerous place for stupid people; their one advantage is strength in numbers.
Cyprus Black Caldari Elitist Jerks Dara Cothrom	Posted - 2009.03.10 22:32:00 - [20] To be fair, I never used the directional scanner for ninja salvaging anyways. ______________ Some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

De'Veldrin Minmatar Special Projects Executive	Posted - 2009.03.10 23:15:00 - [21] Originally by: Jack Dant I notice neither cans nor wrecks show up on directional scan anymore. Miners in busy systems will be much safer, as can flippers will have to check every belt instead of using directional scan to look for named cans. Same with wrecks, means you can't see how far along a missioner is before warping to him (or check that he's not doing recon 3/3). Good job CCP :( I'm waiting to hear the part about why I care? --Vel There is no right or wrong way. There is only what works and what leaves you waking up in a clone vat.
Demitria Fernir Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2009.03.11 00:12:00 - [22] wait...what? THIS is my main.
Miss Uylear Caldari The Gentlemen of Low Moral Fibre	Posted - 2009.03.11 01:02:00 - [23] Originally by: De'Veldrin I'm waiting to hear the part about why I care? I don't know, are you?
Suitonia Gallente interimo End of The Line.	Posted - 2009.03.11 02:04:00 - [24] It happened last time after Trinity was deployed (both cans and wrecks removed) but then was resolved around feb/march when boost patch was deployed fixing the issue.
Jack Coutu	Posted - 2009.03.11 02:18:00 - [25] Wrecks on the scanner is not a ninja salvaging thing, it's useful for hunting people down in belts when they are ratting. Or baiting people into thinking you are ratting. Also I love killing you sorry bastards in Recon 3/3 and looting the wrecks. I have gotten 5 sisters scan probe launchers that way. Thanks chaps.
Misanth RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE Black Legion.	Posted - 2009.03.11 02:25:00 - [26] Originally by: Jack Coutu Wrecks on the scanner is not a ninja salvaging thing, it's useful for hunting people down in belts when they are ratting. Or baiting people into thinking you are ratting. -
Max Carson	Posted - 2009.03.11 08:42:00 - [27] Originally by: Jack Coutu Wrecks on the scanner is not a ninja salvaging thing, it's useful for hunting people down in belts when they are ratting. Or baiting people into thinking you are ratting. Also I love killing you sorry bastards in Recon 3/3 and looting the wrecks. I have gotten 5 sisters scan probe launchers that way. Thanks chaps. You see sunshine Recon 3/3 is WHY wrecks on the scanner IS a ninja thing. No wrecks or cans means you dont jump through. Also being able to see the wrecks in mission if you know what the mission is can tell you where in a multi-gate mission the runner is. Its real nice to watch a Raven leave while you taking every large wreck in the first gate area, run into the next gate or so and start stealing everything that isnt nailed down while you watch the guy picking up wrecks in his Destroyer in the room you just left. Once the wrecks are down to 4 in the first room you move to the next one. If it works out well he'll never see you but will whine in local about the missing wrecks. Its kinda like counting coup
Misanth RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE Black Legion.	Posted - 2009.03.11 11:41:00 - [28] Originally by: Max Carson Originally by: Jack Coutu Wrecks on the scanner is not a ninja salvaging thing, it's useful for hunting people down in belts when they are ratting. Or baiting people into thinking you are ratting. Also I love killing you sorry bastards in Recon 3/3 and looting the wrecks. I have gotten 5 sisters scan probe launchers that way. Thanks chaps. You see sunshine Recon 3/3 is WHY wrecks on the scanner IS a ninja thing. No wrecks or cans means you dont jump through. Also being able to see the wrecks in mission if you know what the mission is can tell you where in a multi-gate mission the runner is. Its real nice to watch a Raven leave while you taking every large wreck in the first gate area, run into the next gate or so and start stealing everything that isnt nailed down while you watch the guy picking up wrecks in his Destroyer in the room you just left. Once the wrecks are down to 4 in the first room you move to the next one. If it works out well he'll never see you but will whine in local about the missing wrecks. Its kinda like counting coup It's not like Recon 3/3 happens all the time, nor do many people jump out in their rigged cov ops to salvage. Most either use a cheap multipurpose salvager/prober (which is even easier now that you don't need much skills to find a battleship), or they have one good prober which they swap out for a cheap salvage frig. The third option is the cov ops probing things down, exit your ship and warp there in pod, warp back to ship. Not very common but does happen. That's why I ignored the dudes comment about Recon 3/3. And now saying that your comment is flawed as well. Recon 3/3 is a non-issue for 'guests' in missions. Wrecks is for belt hunting/can flipping. Nothing to do with missions. -
Kazang Gallente Arbitrary Freedom	Posted - 2009.03.11 11:45:00 - [29] Originally by: Count MonteCarlo Originally by: Filthy Pervert Originally by: Count MonteCarlo Freeforms also got nerfed, you can't edit font size, nor add color anymore Knew this would happen sooner rather than later , I for one made well in excess of 40 billion in a short time tho so cant complain, Yea, if you knew how to find the targets, and you're dedicated, you'd make a lot on it, but to be honest with you they will still work, just you can't make fancy formats anymore I feel like im being stupid here, but "freeforms" are what? Kazang


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