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Saggy Glands	Posted - 2009.03.12 18:12:00 - [1] In Eve you are only allowed to train one character on an active account concurrently. I think Eve is the only MMO that restricts one in this fashion. To achieve this end people would previously use multiple accounts and take advantage of Ghost Training. I propose that we be allowed to train all characters on an active account concurrently. They can even lie and say it's a bug that took them years to identify and fix, if they wish.
Saggy Glands	Posted - 2009.03.12 18:12:00 - [2] I support this great idea!
Santiago Fahahrri Galactic Geographic	Posted - 2009.03.12 18:15:00 - [3] No. Name another game where you can train 2 characters on the same account at the same time.... I can't think of one. In most other games you only gain skills/experience while logged in and actively playing, and you can only log in one character at a time. So again - no. ~ Santiago Fahahrri Galactic Geographic
Drake Draconis Minmatar Shadow Cadre Worlds End Consortium	Posted - 2009.03.12 18:17:00 - [4] NO! <insert 1,000,000 posts from everyone else who said no and there reason> TRY SEARCHING THE FORUMS! =============== CEO of Clan Shadow Cadre www.shadowcadre.com ===============
De'Veldrin Minmatar Special Projects Executive	Posted - 2009.03.12 19:10:00 - [5] If I say something wildly inappropriate here, can we get this thread locked - BEFORE it gets out of hand? Short answer: No. Long answer: IIRC Ghost training was the bug and it has been fixed. Why would they unfix it? --Vel There is no right or wrong way. There is only what works and what leaves you waking up in a clone vat.
Aluthin Caldari Squires of the Roundtable KnightRaven Alliance	Posted - 2009.03.18 14:36:00 - [6] No ermmmm and NO whats the point anyway u can still only use one character at 1 time per account fork out and get another account or 2 or 3 i know some peeps who have 7 accounts and run them all at once (Hats off to them i think they may be octopusses lol) Not Supported
Lucas Tigh East Khanid Trading Khanid Trade Syndicate	Posted - 2009.03.18 16:35:00 - [7] Edited by: Lucas Tigh on 18/03/2009 16:36:51 No. Skill training is the limiting factor (what keeps you from being able to do things until you've "earned" the "right") in EVE. Levels and experience are the limiting factors in many other MMOs (WoW, Guild Wars, etc). None of these games let you log on to the same account twice so that you can level two (or three, etc) characters at the same time. EVE does the same by restricting passive skill training to one character per account. It's not news in the MMO industry. Quote: I think Eve is the only MMO that restricts one in this fashion. You think wrong. tl;dr: Other MMOs do the same thing, but in a different way. Edit: Fail quote tag fixed. ------------------------------------- CCP, make me a winner.
Efrim Black Gallente Apellon	Posted - 2009.03.18 18:02:00 - [8] Originally by: Saggy Glands Saggy Glands. Saggy Glands. Saggy Glands. *Saggy Glands.* Come on...seriously?
Isaac Starstriker Amarr Celestial Ascension Tenth Legion	Posted - 2009.03.18 19:48:00 - [9] Big Fat No. No other MMO does this. Show me one (Legit) MMO and then I'll allow this idea. --Isaac Isaac's Haul*Mart
Gone'Postal Void Engineers	Posted - 2009.03.18 20:08:00 - [10] I'll support it if they disallow char sales. I won't support it as is due to it's free isk for all chars. Originally by: masternerdguy Officer mods arent spread out because the bpos are innacesible to 99% of eve.
Drake Draconis Minmatar Shadow Cadre Worlds End Consortium	Posted - 2009.03.18 20:29:00 - [11] Edited by: Drake Draconis on 18/03/2009 20:30:46 Originally by: Gone'Postal I'll support it if they disallow char sales. I won't support it as is due to it's free isk for all chars. Dont go there. It's bad enough people try to compromise a system that is unique to itself. This is THE MMO... lets make sure it stays that way. =============== CEO of Clan Shadow Cadre www.shadowcadre.com ===============
Hesod Adee Dark-Rising	Posted - 2009.03.18 20:31:00 - [12] Originally by: Saggy Glands In Eve you are only allowed to train one character on an active account concurrently. I think Eve is the only MMO that restricts one in this fashion. You claim that there are MMOs that allow you to train multiple characters on the same account at the same time. So you must know of some. Name them. Apart from Eve, all the MMOs I know of only allow you to train a character when it is online. And since you can't have multiple characters on one account online at the same time, you can't train them at the same time. Instead to train one, you must first log out (pausing its training) to train the other.
Arpad Elo	Posted - 2009.03.18 20:54:00 - [13] I'd prefer to see a more fleshed-out analysis of the pros and cons before I support this. For now I'll have to decline.
Kusum Fawn	Posted - 2009.03.18 20:55:00 - [14] Edited by: Kusum Fawn on 18/03/2009 20:56:24 WOOT !! I love it!, now i can train 2 research alts and sell them, AT A TIME, oh wait .... and i can finally have that titan pilot i always wanted, and since i have 15 accounts that can all train characters at the same time, I can have 30 hulk pilots and 10 research and 3 titans and a Freighter, + my orca and main, wait no this is a terrible idea, Not signed.
Drake Draconis Minmatar Shadow Cadre Worlds End Consortium	Posted - 2009.03.18 20:56:00 - [15] Originally by: Arpad Elo I'd prefer to see a more fleshed-out analysis of the pros and cons before I support this. For now I'll have to decline. I'll make it easy for you. 1: Think about what would happen if you could train all 3 char's on one account without penalty. 2: Think about what the next guy will do. 3: Think about the WORST bunch of guys will do. Starting to sink in yet? Good... Because if you can't figure that out... you don't belong here. Look I'll be the first to admit that would be cool. But it would be a total nightmare/deathmatch out there... easily abused/exploited. You people where given a damn skill queue... now you want the bloody galaxy... yeah... I get it. Greed...does the body good eh? =============== CEO of Clan Shadow Cadre www.shadowcadre.com ===============
CrestoftheStars Caldari Recreation Of The World	Posted - 2009.03.18 23:52:00 - [16] the idea about being allowed to have alts at all or more then one account is already destroying a main and VERY importent aspect of the game, the same is charecter trading, shouldn't be allowed. it removes the unique identification which this whole game is build upon, reputation (it is the only thing that can be dmg for scamming and doing stuff that no other game would allow, and the alts etc are removing that one penalty.. and i find it very wierd that they are allowed to do so when the system is build like this ___________________________________________ Whoever appeals to the law against his fellow man is either a fool or a coward. Whoever cannot take care of himself without that law is both. For a wounded
CrestoftheStars Caldari Recreation Of The World	Posted - 2009.03.18 23:56:00 - [17] Originally by: Kusum Fawn Edited by: Kusum Fawn on 18/03/2009 20:56:24 WOOT !! I love it!, now i can train 2 research alts and sell them, AT A TIME, oh wait .... and i can finally have that titan pilot i always wanted, and since i have 15 accounts that can all train characters at the same time, I can have 30 hulk pilots and 10 research and 3 titans and a Freighter, + my orca and main, wait no this is a terrible idea, Not signed. what's the difference between that and now? you just need 3* the amount of accounts, only difference is that you pay more and can log them all IN at the same time.. i see that as a bigger problem,which should be corrected ___________________________________________ Whoever appeals to the law against his fellow man is either a fool or a coward. Whoever cannot take care of himself without that law is both. For a wounded
Drake Draconis Minmatar Shadow Cadre Worlds End Consortium	Posted - 2009.03.19 00:09:00 - [18] Originally by: CrestoftheStars Originally by: Kusum Fawn Edited by: Kusum Fawn on 18/03/2009 20:56:24 WOOT !! I love it!, now i can train 2 research alts and sell them, AT A TIME, oh wait .... and i can finally have that titan pilot i always wanted, and since i have 15 accounts that can all train characters at the same time, I can have 30 hulk pilots and 10 research and 3 titans and a Freighter, + my orca and main, wait no this is a terrible idea, Not signed. what's the difference between that and now? you just need 3* the amount of accounts, only difference is that you pay more and can log them all IN at the same time.. i see that as a bigger problem,which should be corrected The difference is your paying for the privilege. Honestly there's no purpose to an alt other than to cause trouble... If I had it my way you should be only allowed 1 personalty per account. would make things a little easier on everyone... and honesty would be valued. =============== CEO of Clan Shadow Cadre www.shadowcadre.com ===============
De'Veldrin Minmatar Special Projects Executive	Posted - 2009.03.19 04:54:00 - [19] Originally by: Drake Draconis If I had it my way you should be only allowed 1 personalty per account. Now there's an idea I can get behind --Vel There is no right or wrong way. There is only what works and what leaves you waking up in a clone vat.
Anne Archer	Posted - 2009.03.30 01:12:00 - [20] I support this. Other MMO's dont' require YEARS of trainining to make 1 character proficient in an area. Doubt it will every happen, because CCP would lose a cash cow
De'Veldrin Minmatar Special Projects Executive	Posted - 2009.03.30 02:27:00 - [21] Originally by: Anne Archer I support this. Other MMO's dont' require YEARS of trainining to make 1 character proficient in an area. Doubt it will every happen, because CCP would lose a cash cow Neither does EVE. Unless of course you define proficient as "Super OMGWTF Pwnage Army of One". --Vel Originally by: Tachyon Shade Idealism is what precedes experience. Cynicism is what follows it.
Aethrwolf Caldari Home for Wayward Gamers	Posted - 2009.03.30 04:46:00 - [22] Originally by: De'Veldrin Originally by: Drake Draconis If I had it my way you should be only allowed 1 personalty per account. Now there's an idea I can get behind ditto with one slight difference.. you can only CREATE one personality per account but have the other slots available should you buy another. Absolutely everything is subjective.
Malcanis R.E.C.O.N. Dara Cothrom	Posted - 2009.03.30 11:39:00 - [23] Originally by: Saggy Glands In Eve you are only allowed to train one character on an active account concurrently. I think Eve is the only MMO that restricts one in this fashion. To achieve this end people would previously use multiple accounts and take advantage of Ghost Training. I propose that we be allowed to train all characters on an active account concurrently. They can even lie and say it's a bug that took them years to identify and fix, if they wish. NO.

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