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John Grimm Amarr Rendili StarDrive Yards	Posted - 2009.03.13 18:46:00 - [1] Any1 have a suggestion, don't forget that it needs to fit a Core Probe Launcher.
Fulton Actual	Posted - 2009.03.13 18:56:00 - [2] I've never harvested gas clouds, though like you, I am training and plan to start doing so in deep space. Since I believe that gas cloud harvesters will fit on any ship, I'm planning to pull my mining Rokh out of retirement, and it would seem to be the best ship for the job hands down. My reason for saying so it that it's the best battleship miner and since barges and exhumers can only fit three gas harvesters, it will out mine them as well. I don't think any of the mining barges or exhumers get bonus for gas havesting that would allow them to out perform a Rokh with eight harvester (or seven and a probe launch) and they certainly can't match it's tank should Sleeper rats crash the party. The only issue I see with using a BS like the Rokh or Domi, is that the small cargo hold would require that you have a hauler to be effective. If you must solo mine in deep space then I would suggest a Hulk (can they fit gas cloud harvesters?) with cargo expanders and cargo rigs to give you that 17,199 m3 of space to make a single jump in and out worth while. Let us know what you decide to go with and how it works out.
NuklearWinter Land Pirates IN SPACE L.L.C.	Posted - 2009.03.13 19:05:00 - [3] I believe you can only fit a max of 5 gas harvesters when the skill is at level 5, 1 for each skill level. check the description on the skill (not in EVE atm).
Jonak Gallente	Posted - 2009.03.13 19:10:00 - [4] I just want those T2 harvesters. We use a team of hurricanes for gas missions. But also have an Armageddon with a T1 cargo rig and lows of T2 cargohold expanders. It's use for soloing a gas mission. Just takes longer to do of course.
Fulton Actual	Posted - 2009.03.13 19:21:00 - [5] Originally by: NuklearWinter I believe you can only fit a max of 5 gas harvesters when the skill is at level 5, 1 for each skill level. check the description on the skill (not in EVE atm). I believe this is correct, and since I am not likely to spend the time to master Gas Cloud Harvesting, I will likely run my Rokh with the following in the highs... Highs ----- 4x Gas Cloud Harvesters 1x Probe Launcher 1x Cloak 1x Tractor 1x Large Smart Bomb for rat protection Mids ---- Regular tank set up Lows ---- 4x Gas Harvester Upgrades (if I can fit that many, might have to swap in one CPU upgrade) Rigs ---- 3x CCC (because that's what I have rigged there now)
foobarx	Posted - 2009.03.13 19:31:00 - [6] I use a Stabber. It only has four turrets, but my skills aren't good enough for five harvesters anyway. With six high slots that's four harvesters, a prototype cloak, and the core probe launcher. There's enough cap to keep everything humming. I fill the lows with (three) WCS. Between the WCS and the fact it's a cruiser I can get away from anything that didn't bring a bubble.
James Ranswer	Posted - 2009.03.13 19:32:00 - [7] Originally by: Fulton Actual ...gas cloud harvesters will fit on any ship... ...mining barges or exhumers... ...Hulk (can they fit gas cloud harvesters?)... question - don't gas cloud harvesters need turret hardpoints?
John Grimm Amarr Rendili StarDrive Yards	Posted - 2009.03.13 19:49:00 - [8] Originally by: James Ranswer Originally by: Fulton Actual ...gas cloud harvesters will fit on any ship... ...mining barges or exhumers... ...Hulk (can they fit gas cloud harvesters?)... question - don't gas cloud harvesters need turret hardpoints? Also wondering about this. I was thinking of a Ship that has a VERY LOW mass as to not collapse the WH behind it and can maybe be followed by more Harvesting Ships and a Hauler to collect it all. So looking for a ship with 4-5 Turrets Hard Points(if needed) and 2 utility slots for clock + probe launcher. Is there a frig that can fit this or i'm i looking for a cruiser?
13th	Posted - 2009.03.13 19:51:00 - [9] I used to gas mine in 0.0 with a dominix and a blockade runner. The dominix was my ship of choice because I could fit a bunch of gas harvesters without completely crippling it's dps and it could fit a decent tank. This might not be a good idea for sleeper territory because they like to shoot down drones. If you just want a cheap mining vessel and you have someone else to handle the hauling and clearing away of spawns then battlecruisers make a lot of sense. The Ferox, Harbinger, Myrmidon and Hurricane make good gas miners. The harbinger is techncially the 'best' of the battlecruisers at pure mining with it's 7 turrets and 8 high slots, the Ferox would pack the meanest tank and can fit a bunch of expanders; the Myrmidon would have the flexibility to be able to help deal with some of the weaker sleeper spawns while mining. If you don't have someone to clear out the spawns for you then the Dominix is probably your best bet. Stick to medium T2 drones as those can get to orbit frigate and cruiser sleepers and you will be able to replace them easily with it's large drone bay. You would only have 5 harvesters but you would be able to stick around once the spawns come in.
13th	Posted - 2009.03.13 19:56:00 - [10] Originally by: John Grimm Also wondering about this. I was thinking of a Ship that has a VERY LOW mass as to not collapse the WH behind it and can maybe be followed by more Harvesting Ships and a Hauler to collect it all. So looking for a ship with 4-5 Turrets Hard Points(if needed) and 2 utility slots for clock + probe launcher. Is there a frig that can fit this or i'm i looking for a cruiser? You would want at least a cruiser so you can actually haul what you mine. Anything smaller than a cruiser won't be able to take care of the sleeper spawns, a lone cruiser can barely manage it with good skills and strategy. A battlecruiser is still your best bet, if you want a cloak + prober then the hurricane would be ideal for that if you can fly it.

John Grimm Amarr Rendili StarDrive Yards	Posted - 2009.03.13 20:05:00 - [11] Just did some checking on mass values and thaking in a BS to Harvest in W-Space is a BIG mistake: BS:~100kk BC:~13kk CS:~11kk Transports:10~20kk So I'll pick any of the BCs because they have excellent tanks and all the high slots you need.
Ashvul Amarr XenoTech The Fonz Presidium	Posted - 2009.03.13 20:57:00 - [12] Originally by: Fulton Actual Lows ---- 4x Gas Harvester Upgrades (if I can fit that many, might have to swap in one CPU upgrade) What? I'm fairly certain there is no such module. And to clear things up, yes the gas cloud harvester requires a turret hardpoint.
John Grimm Amarr Rendili StarDrive Yards	Posted - 2009.03.13 21:00:00 - [13] I was hopping that some1 will post some set-ups by the time i got home, but here is what i got after about 15mins of EFT + Windows Calculator: [Gas Harvesting Cyclone] LOWS: Co-Processor II Co-Processor II Type-E Power Core Modification: Capacitor Flux Expanded Cargohold II MEDS: Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Heat Dissipation Amplifier II Magnetic Scattering Amplifier II Medium Shield Booster II HIGHS: Gas Cloud Harvester Gas Cloud Harvester Gas Cloud Harvester Gas Cloud Harvester Gas Cloud Harvester Core Probe Launcher Improved Cloaking Device II Empty High Slot RIGS: Capacitor Control Circuit I Capacitor Control Circuit I Capacitor Control Circuit I Cap stable and has enough CPU to fit the T2 Harvesters(JUST ENOUGH). I tryed all the other BCs and CPU is always a problem, if you want a Cloack/ProbeLauncher/Tank.
Arch Miner	Posted - 2009.03.13 21:16:00 - [14] You could always offline the cloak and probe, onlining it if you needed it. Just ot make things fit.
Abrazzar	Posted - 2009.03.13 22:14:00 - [15] Played around with EFT a little while ago and came up with a Cyclone fit: [Cyclone, WH Gas Harvester] Expanded Cargohold II Expanded Cargohold II Expanded Cargohold II Co-Processor II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II Small Shield Booster II Survey Scanner I Gas Cloud Harvester II Gas Cloud Harvester II Gas Cloud Harvester II Gas Cloud Harvester II Gas Cloud Harvester II Small Tractor Beam I Salvager I Core Probe Launcher Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Valkyrie II x4 Could add replacement drones for gang mates and go completely carebear. The extenders and small booster offer enough buffer/time-to-pop. to allow gang mates to intervene. Tractor and Salvager are only there so it can double as clean-up support when wrapping up other sites. A core launcher is always useful should the main prober get popped. -------- Ideas for: Mining
John Grimm Amarr Rendili StarDrive Yards	Posted - 2009.03.13 22:46:00 - [16] Originally by: Arch Miner You could always offline the cloak and probe, onlining it if you needed it. Just ot make things fit. Problem is that grief... i mean PvPers will hunt you like a dog and warp >>> save spot >>> cloak will be needed and no time to wait for your cap to full-up so you can on-line stuff.
foobarx	Posted - 2009.03.14 01:29:00 - [17] Originally by: 13th I used to gas mine in 0.0 with a dominix and a blockade runner. The dominix was my ship of choice because I could fit a bunch of gas harvesters without completely crippling it's dps and it could fit a decent tank. This might not be a good idea for sleeper territory because they like to shoot down drones. If you just want a cheap mining vessel and you have someone else to handle the hauling and clearing away of spawns then battlecruisers make a lot of sense. The Ferox, Harbinger, Myrmidon and Hurricane make good gas miners. The harbinger is techncially the 'best' of the battlecruisers at pure mining with it's 7 turrets and 8 high slots, the Ferox would pack the meanest tank and can fit a bunch of expanders; the Myrmidon would have the flexibility to be able to help deal with some of the weaker sleeper spawns while mining. If you don't have someone to clear out the spawns for you then the Dominix is probably your best bet. Stick to medium T2 drones as those can get to orbit frigate and cruiser sleepers and you will be able to replace them easily with it's large drone bay. You would only have 5 harvesters but you would be able to stick around once the spawns come in. Well, if you only have five harvesters there's no reason to despair, as you have the maximum number unless you figure out how to train Gas Cloud Harvesting above level 5. Also, I wouldn't focus too much on the rat spawns. I vacuumed for two hours last night and didn't get a single spawn, though there were rats there when I arrived. If they spawn less than once every two hours it's not that big of a deal to pop through the wormhole and get a dedicated combat ship.
John Grimm Amarr Rendili StarDrive Yards	Posted - 2009.03.14 08:26:00 - [18] Edited by: John Grimm on 14/03/2009 08:27:53 There is another take on the Gas Harvesting BCs. I think that i finally found something that my old Ferox does with excellence and that is gas harvesting, the ship is perfect for the job and fits all with almost no CPU to spare and it has the best tank for it's weight class. Lets face it due to WH mass issues the best ships to use are the BCes that have a mass just a fraction more than cruisers, but 7-8 times less than BSes. [Gas Harvesting] LOWS: Co-Processor II Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I Damage Control II MIDS: Invulnerability Field II Heat Dissipation Amplifier II Magnetic Scattering Amplifier II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II HIGHS: Gas Cloud Harvester II Gas Cloud Harvester II Gas Cloud Harvester II Gas Cloud Harvester II Gas Cloud Harvester II Core Probe Launcher II Prototype Cloaking Device I RIGS: Core Defence Field Purger I Core Defence Field Purger I Core Defence Field Purger I Alternatively you could remove all the low slots (including the CPU upgrade II, everything else will still fits.) and mash in Expanded Cargohold II for some 912 m3 of cargo for solo WH hopping set-up( if you don't have an alt with a hauler to follow you around), but your tank will be equivalent to that of the Cyclon set-up i posted above. EDIT: Spelling.
Raiven Parker The Athiest Syndicate	Posted - 2009.03.15 19:50:00 - [19] Originally by: John Grimm Edited by: John Grimm on 14/03/2009 08:27:53 There is another take on the Gas Harvesting BCs. I think that i finally found something that my old Ferox does with excellence and that is gas harvesting, the ship is perfect for the job and fits all with almost no CPU to spare and it has the best tank for it's weight class. Lets face it due to WH mass issues the best ships to use are the BCes that have a mass just a fraction more than cruisers, but 7-8 times less than BSes. [Gas Harvesting] LOWS: Co-Processor II Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I Damage Control II MIDS: Invulnerability Field II Heat Dissipation Amplifier II Magnetic Scattering Amplifier II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II HIGHS: Gas Cloud Harvester II Gas Cloud Harvester II Gas Cloud Harvester II Gas Cloud Harvester II Gas Cloud Harvester II Core Probe Launcher II Prototype Cloaking Device I RIGS: Core Defence Field Purger I Core Defence Field Purger I Core Defence Field Purger I Alternatively you could remove all the low slots (including the CPU upgrade II, everything else will still fits.) and mash in Expanded Cargohold II for some 912 m3 of cargo for solo WH hopping set-up( if you don't have an alt with a hauler to follow you around), but your tank will be equivalent to that of the Cyclon set-up i posted above. EDIT: Spelling. Is this setup really cap stable? Also dont you guys have problems with the wormholes collapsing when using haulers to get the gases out?
Renllek Minmatar unrestrained aggressor	Posted - 2009.03.15 20:12:00 - [20] Originally by: foobarx Also, I wouldn't focus too much on the rat spawns. I vacuumed for two hours last night and didn't get a single spawn, though there were rats there when I arrived. If they spawn less than once every two hours it's not that big of a deal to pop through the wormhole and get a dedicated combat ship. ill agree with this. im using a BC with no tank at all and filled the lows with cargo expanders so that i dont need to ferry back and forth to often

Herring Caldari Alcatraz Inc. THE INTERSTELLAR FOUNDRY	Posted - 2009.03.16 00:02:00 - [21] These fittings are all well and good but as someone who's been out there harvesting gas, I can personally tell you there's a new lame game mechanic that only allows you to operate three for harvesting purposes. It just tells you that 'you have the maximum number of harvesters that can be operated right now' or some **** like that.
Kahor Minmatar	Posted - 2009.03.16 00:17:00 - [22] Afraid that error might ust be you mate, I was successfully gas cloud mining with 4 harvesters about an hour ago, works fine. To be honest, if you can afford the investment, HACs really are the best choice. Deimos performs well, Muninn too.
Abrazzar	Posted - 2009.03.16 01:08:00 - [23] Originally by: Herring These fittings are all well and good but as someone who's been out there harvesting gas, I can personally tell you there's a new lame game mechanic that only allows you to operate three for harvesting purposes. It just tells you that 'you have the maximum number of harvesters that can be operated right now' or some **** like that. That's most likely because you only have it trained to level 3 and thus have a max limit of 3 active harvesters at a time. -------- Ideas for: Mining
Halada Caldari Lone Star Joint Venture Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.03.16 01:55:00 - [24] For WH space a battleship, imho, is the best gas mining platform. Albeit not the cheapest, it has a considerably better tank and can stand his own against sleepers with the proper fleet. ★ LSJV now recruiting ★
Karanth Gallente Independent Fleet Dark Taboo	Posted - 2009.03.16 04:04:00 - [25] Bucking the trend to go for my favoured gas harvesting ship: Gas Mining Exequor Hi 4x Gas Cloud Harvester II Mid Large Shield Extender II Survey Scanner Low 2x Expanded Cargohold II 1x Co-Processor II Drones Random junk laying around Rigs None yet Bring a friend for the probing or make sure you keep your trips short. The drones are there to launch if Sleepers decide to freak out and spawn on you or something, using them as chaff. It'll pull good amounts of gas, but the main point is the cargo space it has; 1,365.5m^3 with 2 t2 expanders. The idea is to minimize the number of trips you need to make, and keep your mass down when you do go through, and if you're working solo and don't mind some risk it works pretty well. Substitute T1 harvesters or a probe launcher if desired. Originally by: CCP t0rfifrans Sorry, no. You have to go into wormholes and get farmed by the new AI NPCs like everyone else...
foobarx	Posted - 2009.03.16 10:33:00 - [26] Originally by: Halada For WH space a battleship, imho, is the best gas mining platform. Albeit not the cheapest, it has a considerably better tank and can stand his own against sleepers with the proper fleet. It's not the sleepers I worry about. But that brings up a question. Has the signal strength formula for probing changed? In other words, is it still faster to find a BS than a smaller ship?
Renllek Minmatar unrestrained aggressor	Posted - 2009.03.16 10:44:00 - [27] Edited by: Renllek on 16/03/2009 10:45:43 Originally by: foobarx It's not the sleepers I worry about. But that brings up a question. Has the signal strength formula for probing changed? In other words, is it still faster to find a BS than a smaller ship? yes, i can sit there scaning and can see the different sig strengths of the diff types of ships, frigs and cruisers would be harder to scan down than say BS or BC. i would say that a BS is not the best ship for the job. but that is just my opinion. Hense the maller fit, nice small ship. Has enough CPU to fit 5 T2 harvesters without the need to CPU upgrades. can fill the lows with cargo expanders. Sleepers aint a problem, i have been sat at a gas cloud with sleepers sitting 97k away and no aggro from them at all!!??!!?? only thing that you really need to worry about is other players, so long as you are aligned ready to warp as soon as someone appears on grid you should be ok. have been mining gas like this now for the last few days with no problems


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