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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2009.03.18 11:38:00 -
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Edited by: Crumplecorn on 18/03/2009 11:41:50 The links to normal space, changing as they do, give to the systems to which the bring us the appearance of movement, and I was quite taken with the idea of travelling the cluster with a star system as my ship. A full day later I once again stepped off the Wormhole Express onto a platform similarly located in 0.0. My frustration with the process of finding my out blinded me to the lifetime of my probes, and so I dropped from the seemingly sufficient eight to the just enough of four. At some point in the intervening time, I do not remember exactly where or when, I had come across a gas cloud which had been partly harvested by others, the fruits of their labor jettisoned nearby. Having encountered such clouds before but finding myself unable to mine them I was quite glad to find the work done for me. My aim was to retrieve this rarest of ores and bring it with me, but once again I found my ship ill equipped for the task - my cargo hold could hold but a fraction of the find. I took what I could and destroyed the rest - a reminder to those who preceded me that while space is infinite and forever, that left alone within it is quite short-lived indeed. To return from this tangent, my cargo hold now full I aimed to set sail for home, and to this end I sought to bypass the inevitable roaming hoards of belligerents with a further trip to unknown space. What harm could it do? What harm indeed.
It suffices to say that, my frustration not alleviated, I made the same mistake again, and hurried back the way I came to the known world four probes lighter. No choice now but to brave the blockades. It ended as you would expect, no ship, no pod, no gas, no loot, no sight of home save from the inside of a clone bay.
- Trying again with a more specific aim - my main would fly the same ship as before minus the probes, while my alt would fly a combined prober/gas miner/hauler.
Having better prepared for the journey, on my second attempt I found the beginning to be the difficult part. It took some time to find a useful wormhole, and when I did I was most apologetically informed by an ex-militia member that this hole was 'taken'. Had he told me that they had ships within which would greet my presence with antimatter rather than words, and to move along if I valued my ship, I would have left it at that. But this abstract claim to a system with no apparent desire to back it up irked me, so I set about testing this claim. Entering the system in my inty I found two BCs, and determined that the only chance I had, solo as I was (and am), was a BS on my part, and PvE fits on their part. On attempting to implement this near-hopeless plan I found I was thwarted not by the inefficacy of a T1 fitted blasterthon but by the route battle - which denied me access due to being too big for the hole (a better complaint that the opposite, I suppose...). This being my only slight chance, I withdrew, to be informed in local that "a BS can't go in, noob" (it hurts because it's true ;.;).
More luck later on, a more or less unoccupied system. A shuttle appeared, but I killed it and podkilled the pilot. In a BC. Sitting next to a wormhole. *shrug* My alt set about finding and mining a gas cloud, which took some time, and was interrupted at one point by the appearance of Sleeper frigates, fortunately I was not paying so much attention to the movie I was watching that I missed this, so I managed to warp my alt out and have my main dispatch the little red pluses. Little else of note happened and I eventually left.
- Realised that wormholes, while quite possibly the most awesome addition to EVE ever, are too time consuming and not soloable enough for the time I am able to put in the game (very little) and the people I work with (my alt) respectively, and cancelled my subscription (again XD).
How is it I can sum up entire threads in 400x120px, but it took me two full posts to say "I went, I saw, I died", "I went, I postured, I failed". -
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Kendar
Gallente Disney inc
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Posted - 2009.03.18 12:07:00 -
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The other day i entered Sett's wormhole, i traveled manny times in and out of it before it collapsed
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CommmanderInChief
Comply Or Die
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Posted - 2009.03.18 14:28:00 -
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Err thats awesome ^^ 
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Xendie
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2009.03.18 14:53:00 -
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Day 01. Enter Wormhole Day 02. Seek help in local to get out with the promise of 10mil Day 03. Seek help in local to get out with the promise of 30mil Day 04. Seek help in local to get out with the promise of 50mil Day 05. Seek help in local to get out with the promise of 250mil Day 06. Explode fully fitted Ishtar, Explode fully loaded head. Priceless.
That shall remain my one and only adventure into ye olde wormhole.
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Rawr Cristina
Caldari Naqam Exalted.
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Posted - 2009.03.18 14:54:00 -
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Originally by: Xendie
Day 06. Explode fully fitted Ishtar, Explode fully loaded head.
you could have at least ejected first... 
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2009.03.18 14:55:00 -
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Originally by: Xendie Day 06. Explode fully fitted Ishtar, Explode fully loaded head.
Explode decapitated body? -
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Xendie
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2009.03.18 14:56:00 -
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I did actually change the ship name to 'Free - I Got Lost' or something like that :)
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Xendie
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2009.03.18 14:56:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn
Originally by: Xendie Day 06. Explode fully fitted Ishtar, Explode fully loaded head.
Explode decapitated body?
If that's your beef, it'll be out there somewhere for some loving 
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nails
Caldari Ota Corps
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Posted - 2009.03.18 14:59:00 -
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Nothing too crazy, for my first wormhole, my roomate tracked down a system 7 jumps from home with a "dangerous" status. We jumped in with battleships and wiped out a few spawns trying to feel out the sleepers, how they gave and took damage. I can honestly say, sleepers are not big fans of losing. We got to the 3rd spawn (crusers and battleships), and found that even we couldn't tank the unholy massive amount of damage they were giving out with our current setups. Also the 3rd spawn added a nice warp scramble suprise for my roomate in his golem. Sleepers are smart, but humans are smarter. I'm trying to piece out the AI, the actions are always the same, not quite as random as I'd expect. Sleepers will lock onto whoever warps in last. Reguardless if they stay locked, or instantly move back to their original target. Keep this in mind when wanting to break your mate's sleeper lock long enough for them to hit the warp drive. We have to tweak a better tank now, as long as we can survive the damage, we can last agains all of the crazy shield transporting sleepers do.
PS, frig spider tanks are annoying. --------------
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Devasatation
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Posted - 2009.03.19 02:35:00 -
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I found a wormhole while randomly scanning systems looking for nothing inparticular. Me and two corpies jumped through in a rokh, hyperion and anathema. The Rokh did a directional scan while I (in the Anathema) went to probe down some plexes and stuff. The Rokh found a plex and fleet warped in with the Hyp. Upon arrival they were greeted by two war targets in domi's, they engaged and got both domi's into structure before they warped off. Figuring they retreated to the wormhole we went after them and after a few minutes they joined us. This time they were closer together and could remote rep each other, we couldnt break their tank and had to warp out. The domi's left the system and we went back to the site to steal their loot from the site.
Later they came back in a Hurricane, Fleet Stabber and Rifter and engaged us at the site while I was salvaging the wrecks. I warped off to the wormhole and cloaked. Our gang (now with a drake to add to the battleships) held off theirs and the fight ended in a stalemate. We jumped through the wormhole and let them be.
Was a cool little expedition, and kudos to the war targets, they put up a good fight :)
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Arushia
Nova Labs Empire Research
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Posted - 2009.03.19 07:27:00 -
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I found a wormhole that leads from Luromooh-Sahdil. Those systems are already connected by a stargate.
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Clanrat1
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Posted - 2009.03.19 08:00:00 -
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First wormhole I did was a total failure.
Me and my fleet had fun killing sleepers. When our prober needed to eat dinner, he left the wh system and (dramatic music) The wormhole collapsed behind him.
5 people in everything from cheap frigs to raven navy issues were stuck. The guy in the raven had never updated his clone, EVER!
Well theres is one guy still stuck, and you can see his thread on the front page I think.
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Marmios
Elite Aeronautic Developer Syndicate Kraftwerk.
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Posted - 2009.03.19 13:18:00 -
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Edited by: Marmios on 19/03/2009 13:18:05 bump for a great thread.
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2009.03.19 13:21:00 -
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Originally by: Arushia I found a wormhole that leads from Luromooh-Sahdil. Those systems are already connected by a stargate.
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CommmanderInChief
Comply Or Die
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Posted - 2009.03.19 21:28:00 -
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keep alive¼
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Apollo Manton
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Posted - 2009.03.19 21:42:00 -
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While my first trip in WH space ended in a gtfo call since we could not tank the sleepers the rest have been quite fun. Lots of isk being made and when looking for wormholes sometimes find nice radar sites in empire. cant remember ever coming across so much isk so fast. Anyway until now no probs for i'm not stuck in a WH since a cruiser i was with collapsed it o well just a drake and no i wont leave it in one piece for someone else to find. I'll take the insurance.
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Arfvedson
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Posted - 2009.03.19 21:51:00 -
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Originally by: Clanrat1
The guy in the raven had never updated his clone, EVER!
Oh dear god... lol
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CommmanderInChief
Comply Or Die
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Posted - 2009.03.20 13:48:00 -
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daily bump
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Benco97
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.03.20 13:54:00 -
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I made two bookmarks, one that led to a wormhole entrance and one inside the wormhole that led back to it. However, as part of my cunning plan I deliberately made the return bookmark WRONG, knowing that whoever bought them would NOT bookmark the wormhole themselves on account of having MY bookmarks.
With me so far?
Good. I sold the bookmarks for 5mil and then when I got a pretty furious mail back saying they were wrong and they can't get out I charged a 10mil retrieval fee.
A good day's work. 
Originally by: P'uck
You're a DUMBASS - bold italic underline at the VERY LEAST.

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Ferria
Caldari FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2009.03.20 14:36:00 -
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Sol Tag: J144725 System Name: Lost Storm
Currently the living space of several members of my corp, myself included. We have been here since the 11th and no plan to leave. Currently have enough fuel to last a long time, and making money faster than I can haul it
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Blue Dice
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.03.20 15:28:00 -
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Originally by: Benco97 I made two bookmarks, one that led to a wormhole entrance and one inside the wormhole that led back to it. However, as part of my cunning plan I deliberately made the return bookmark WRONG, knowing that whoever bought them would NOT bookmark the wormhole themselves on account of having MY bookmarks.
With me so far?
Good. I sold the bookmarks for 5mil and then when I got a pretty furious mail back saying they were wrong and they can't get out I charged a 10mil retrieval fee.
A good day's work. 
Benco gone form the former nice guy in 2006 to the actual griefer? Remember when back then I killed your T2 Ship (dont remember what it was) as a total noob, in our corp scirmish... I'm still feeling guilty for that.
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Katamarino
Can't Decide Balance of Judgment
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Posted - 2009.03.20 15:39:00 -
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Ah, my first and only WH adventure...
We took a gang of about 15 of us to fully clean out a WH. It turned out in the end that it wasn't a very hard WH, and that 4 logistics ships, 3 Marauders, a Damnation, 3 Scorpions, an Abaddon and a Dominix were slight overkill. They were however the perfect amount of ships to collapse the entrance from our low sec home (handily trapping a prober from an enemy Alliance in there with us!)
Another WH was found to low sec, through which we brought an Orca, and proceeded to clear out all combat sites, and mine a full load of gas. This Orca then jumped back to low sec, along with the entire fleet...apart from 2 covops, a Scorp, the Abaddon, and my Domi!
A third and final wormhole was found...to deep in the Drone Regions. With the covops scouting, we set out for empire, only to be caught by a gatecamping Eris and Thanatos combo (hmm...), which we burned through. In retrospect this was an error, as there were more camps ahead, and now a reinforced one behind. But wait...
Another WH! This one took us away from our confused enemies to Catch, where we set out once again for Empire. This time we were only 2J from low sec before once again getting trapped in by camps ahead and behind.
So, if in doubt...ANOTHER wormhole! This took us back to the Drone Regions, but one jump from Empire, and before long we were home free! Total time...9 hours 
Hurrah for WHs!
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Benco97
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.03.20 15:44:00 -
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Originally by: Blue Dice Benco gone form the former nice guy in 2006 to the actual griefer? Remember when back then I killed your T2 Ship (dont remember what it was) as a total noob, in our corp scirmish... I'm still feeling guilty for that.
Hahah, nah, I'm still a nice guy I just like to have a little fun now and then, why just last night I gave my entire day's worth of earnings away to some random newbie to help them get started.
I think the ship was a hound wasn't it? Can't remember though, was that before or after I was using the War Wreathe?
I'm just in Aliastra now, floating around being as useless as ever, it's good fun.
Originally by: P'uck
You're a DUMBASS - bold italic underline at the VERY LEAST.

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Ginako
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Posted - 2009.03.20 15:44:00 -
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Originally by: Arfvedson
Originally by: Clanrat1
The guy in the raven had never updated his clone, EVER!
Oh dear god... lol
How can a person justify that? For the love of GOD it isn't that expensive!!  --------------
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Cybarite
Gallente Best Path Inc. Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2009.03.20 16:50:00 -
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Originally by: Ginako
Originally by: Arfvedson
Originally by: Clanrat1
The guy in the raven had never updated his clone, EVER!
Oh dear god... lol
How can a person justify that? For the love of GOD it isn't that expensive!! 
I'm guessing they never left their mission running system before now... ... Why do I PvP? Because I love the feeling I get when I see the pretty lights and know that someone somewhere is screaming incoherently at their computer screen. |

QWAD
Caldari Black Aces Dead Mans Hand
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Posted - 2009.03.20 17:43:00 -
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My Wormhole Story is actually fairly epic.
My goal was to go prepared and do some solo ratting in the grav sites. They are easy and the pay is good.
Fresh clone, cheep fit insured Drake, ammo, probes, lets ROCK!
It turned out that just getting into WH space (from now on known as J-space) was going to be a challenge.
The plan was to scan in quiet systems as it increases the odds of finding a quiet J Sector.
The first Portal whisked me 20 jumps into low sec empire into a nice Quiet system, perfect to find good portals, or so I thought. In that very same system I found my target, a perfect WH to J-Space but some one else had found it first.
I decide to take a peek on the other side. PORTAL CAMP, You got to be kidding me, I high tail it back to the gate and escape.
Moments latter I get a message from the FC who attacked me. They apologize and proclaim they are friends with my alliance and promise not to shoot. I trust them and join them in J-space. Cool I am IN.
Locus Signature J123438, Location Unknown, and Bathed in the blazing light of a distant super nova my journey begins. I start to map out the Exploration sites and all the while talk with this other fleet. I learned that they got demolished by the sleepers and decide to pull out. The portal remained open and I continue my exploration.
During my exploration I keep a probe on the gate to watch it. Scanning signature 14, the gate does not register... No one in local, No one on 360... I am now officially Lost in Space.
I continue to rat and scan, learning new techniques to make it faster. It took around 3 hours to find a new WH. I thought it was time to go home. Not so lucky....
Welcome to J104448, a new system about half the size of the last one but just as dense with signatures. I finished ratting the old system and moved to the new one. Make a safe spot and log off.
The next day I broadcast the mayday to local...nothing. I do 360 scans around system...nothing; looks like there is no easy way out. I had a good scan shape that I use to get quick group readings on contacts to try and find a WH fast but it just wasnĘt there. So I took the time to map the entire system out. Just my luck that the worm hole was contact 19 X_X
An Exit...To Empire...The slums of empire, the closest thing to lawless empire you can find and Amarr no less. Still 20 + jumps from home and a cargo hold packed with about 20 mil in loot; this wonĘt be fun.
I examine the locals of the systems I go through, Blind Octopus alliance. I think to myself I am in trouble, they run the show here and they will want blood. I high tail it to the nearest 0.5 station and bring up the map stats.
Only one way out, and I see the tell tail signs of a gate camp but not a serious one. I decide to risk it, letĘs run for it! I buy a cloak (THANK GOD FOR THAT) and fit it on.
I am counting on them being caught off guard by me coming from the opposite side. And so off I go, Zooming through the camp and jumping on zero the Hostiles are quick to move after me. On the other side I expertly align and activate cloak; perfect, not so much as a glint off the hull.
What follows is a scene from those classic sub movies like Das Boot. A hostile ship cruised by a mere 2000m away from uncloaking me. They flew to the next gate and back again. Eventually they gave up and returned to there camp.
My Escape was complete, clicked on the auto pilot and got a cold one, I earned it.
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Ahz
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Posted - 2009.03.20 17:59:00 -
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Edited by: Ahz on 20/03/2009 18:06:25 Day 1:
- Scanned down a WH in 0.0 (Curse) and entered in a rigged-up Cheetah
- Scanned down a ladar site and investigated
- Realized that I'd forgotten to bookmark the wormhole on the way in and spent the next two hours scanning my way out
- Began harvesting gas in the Cheetah. Logged out in system
Day 2:
- Logged in and scanned down a new exit. This time into .4 Amarr space
- Realized that I'd forgotten to bookmark the WH on the .4 side and spent another two hours getting back in
- Exited the system, bought an industrial and a gas harvester, re-entered and loaded up
- Continued my AFK harvesting until my industrial was blown up by rats which spawned while I was away eating breakfast
- Left in my pod and re-entered in the Cheetah and logged out
Day 3:
- Logged in and scanned down a new exit. This time in .3 Caldari space. It took me about 20 minutes
- A bunch of hammerhead IIs on scan confirms for me that someone has been in my WH in the time I was logged out. Looks like they left in a hurry
- Discovered deep space probes! Much better! This leads me to discover a second wormhole exit to a new unknown space. This unknown space in turn leads to a low security system in the Citadel. Fly to Jita and do some price checking
- Exit system and buy an industrial and a Jaguar, ferry both ships (and the cheetah) back into WH space at a safe spot
- Kill the rats with the Jag and harvest the ladar site
- Log out with both my backup ships in a safe spot at the edge of the sytem
Day 4:
- Logged in and scanned down a new exit. This time .4 Minnie space.
- Set up for hours of AFK harvesting
- Check in on my industrial, hit the scanner and find deep space probes on scan. Take mammoth full of gas and get the heck out. Dock up in a neighboring system
- Ferry the Jaguar back out and dock up (both my backup ships are now safe)
- Get back into the system with the Cheetah and scan down 3 marauders, 2 logistics, a cov ops and a command ship, all hostile, red and yellow blinky types
- Cloak up, get to the edge of the system and log out
Conclusions so far:
- Living in unknown space is possible but a management headache. Best done with teams but the solo player can pull it off if he's willing to live there full time
- The wormholes are getting crowded already. All of the unknown systems that I've been in have seen traffic while I was in there
- The most dangerous things in unknown space are other players
- It won't be easy to get rich by doing solo work in unknown space. The prices for sleeper space loot have yet to stabilize but I suspect that the good stuff will take teams of well-tanked ships to get at. Prices for everything else will settle in at relatively low levels
I'm still in my wormhole (assuming I wasn't scanned down and podded after I logged out). I'll try this for a bit longer but it's already starting to feel like a novelty. At this point my opinion is that the ultimate impact of unknown space will simply be less traffic in low sec and 0.0 as mission-running corps move to unknown space full time.
To be continued.
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Marlenus
Caldari Ironfleet Towing And Salvage Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2009.03.20 18:34:00 -
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Originally by: Ahz The wormholes are getting crowded already. All of the unknown systems that I've been in have seen traffic while I was in there.
The thing to remember is how many different WH systems there are.
I've been living in an "unknown" system for a week now. So far, it's always had at least two wormholes, often three; and one of them has always connected to high-sec empire. I'd say there have been visitors every day, but some days, nothing but tourists -- folks who scan a bit and leave.
However, I have also popped through my wormholes that go into other unknown space (sometimes "dangerous unknown" space). Each time I've done this, I've found a completely empty, apparently unvisited system; six to eight Cosmic Anomalies on scan, no ships, no sign of life.
These are snapshots, but the presence of numerous CAs in every one of these systems suggests to me that once you get "one jump in" there are lots and lots of wormhole systems that aren't crowded yet. ------------------ Ironfleet.com |

CommmanderInChief
Comply Or Die
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Posted - 2009.03.21 16:57:00 -
[89]
bumpage
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Taradis
Amarr The Imperial Assassins
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Posted - 2009.03.21 19:09:00 -
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I lol everytime someone posts that they are lost in the wh's. 2 of my corp mates r lost in a wh and I lol'd plus i was jealous cuz I wanted to join in the fun haha   
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