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F90OEX
F9X
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Posted - 2009.03.13 21:07:00 -
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Location : 0.5 Piekura Fittings : 4 Drone Control units 4 T2 Cargo Expander 3 Cargohold Optimization rigs Drones : 200 (mixture of T1/T2 mining drones) 20 HammerHead IIs
Number of Belts : 13 + 1 Ice belt.
4 Jumps From Jita
Some lvl5 agents give missions in this system.
Open to offers here or mail in game.
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Hobgoblin ll
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Posted - 2009.03.13 21:36:00 -
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Edited by: Hobgoblin ll on 13/03/2009 21:36:33 Interesting. Can i have he name and location of the lvl5 agent and a screenshot of someone doing a lvl5 in that system ?
Can we also have a rough price estimation ? I guess you don't want to sell it for 2 billion ?
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F90OEX
F9X
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Posted - 2009.03.13 21:51:00 -
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Caldari Navy lvl 5 agents Haan Lekspar in Otsasai and Petur Oskarin in Hakonen. Are known to give missions in Highsec.
As for Piekura its every so often last mission we did here was Rogue Spy (1 of 3)
Sorry 2bil is way to low.
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F90OEX
F9X
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Posted - 2009.03.14 14:42:00 -
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Bump
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F90OEX
F9X
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Posted - 2009.03.15 18:25:00 -
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bump
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Seetesh
Caldari Warped Mining Strip Mining Club
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Posted - 2009.03.15 18:36:00 -
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3bil offered
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F90OEX
F9X
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Posted - 2009.03.16 02:02:00 -
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6bil offered in game.
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F90OEX
F9X
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Posted - 2009.03.16 18:30:00 -
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2 in game bids this morning 9 and 15bil
So current bid is 15bil.
Saturday will be the last day I will be selling it.
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F90OEX
F9X
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Posted - 2009.03.17 16:34:00 -
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Bump for the day
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F90OEX
F9X
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Posted - 2009.03.18 17:08:00 -
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Current bid is 15bil and bump ..
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1W3GHXQZ
PILGRIMS Insane Asylum
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Posted - 2009.03.19 07:03:00 -
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someone would rather pay 15bill for a carrier in 0.5 system than having a mothership? lolz
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Incendi
Gracious Bodily Harm
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Posted - 2009.03.19 11:14:00 -
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Not to burst your bubble or anything, but if you do missions in a high sec cap they class it as an unfair advantage and will move the ship to low sec.
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Hobgoblin ll
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Posted - 2009.03.19 11:37:00 -
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Originally by: Incendi Not to burst your bubble or anything, but if you do missions in a high sec cap they class it as an unfair advantage and will move the ship to low sec.
That's wrong. Only if you do pvp in it, you will be warned and lose the carrier. I'd love to buy that but wtf, 6 .. 10 .. 15 bil Where do people have so much isk from, that's over 1000 hours of mining, won't ever have that much
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Incendi
Gracious Bodily Harm
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Posted - 2009.03.19 11:43:00 -
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Originally by: Hobgoblin ll
Originally by: Incendi Not to burst your bubble or anything, but if you do missions in a high sec cap they class it as an unfair advantage and will move the ship to low sec.
That's wrong. Only if you do pvp in it, you will be warned and lose the carrier. I'd love to buy that but wtf, 6 .. 10 .. 15 bil Where do people have so much isk from, that's over 1000 hours of mining, won't ever have that much
Nope it's not wrong. I can't find the thread now, but a GM specifically said that doing missions in a high sec cap is against the rules.
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Hobgoblin ll
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Posted - 2009.03.19 12:01:00 -
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Edited by: Hobgoblin ll on 19/03/2009 12:02:03
Originally by: Incendi Nope it's not wrong. I can't find the thread now, but a GM specifically said that doing missions in a high sec cap is against the rules.
That's not true, there is no such GM statement.
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Fossil Wolf
omen. Gay4Life
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Posted - 2009.03.19 12:13:00 -
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Originally by: Hobgoblin ll Edited by: Hobgoblin ll on 19/03/2009 12:02:03
Originally by: Incendi Nope it's not wrong. I can't find the thread now, but a GM specifically said that doing missions in a high sec cap is against the rules.
That's not true, there is no such GM statement.
I think the post Incendi is referring to is; Here
Quote: 3. You may not use your capital ship's attributes to gain any sort of advantage over other players while in high security space.
But its all how the GM at the time interprets this if someone petitions I guess..
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Hobgoblin ll
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Posted - 2009.03.19 12:24:00 -
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Heh i knew you'll come up with this quote, but it does not forbid missionrunning. It's too open, you could also say that mining may not be done with it or undocking, since you can't be suicide ganked by others compared to if you were in a sub capital ship. If someone buys a state Raven with Estamel fits and logistic support, he's better than the capital ship anyways. So you want to compare the capital ship with an average ship , in order to have an advantage over other players situation, or what ? The dev explicitely mentioned pvp but not missions.
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Incendi
Gracious Bodily Harm
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Posted - 2009.03.19 12:34:00 -
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Doing missions in a high sec cap is a clear advantage. If you had the same fit on a state raven as a cap ship the cap ship would out perform the state raven. However mining in a cap ship there is no clear advantage as hulks will always out mine any cap ship.
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Hobgoblin ll
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Posted - 2009.03.19 13:07:00 -
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Originally by: Incendi Doing missions in a high sec cap is a clear advantage. If you had the same fit on a state raven as a cap ship the cap ship would out perform the state raven. However mining in a cap ship there is no clear advantage as hulks will always out mine any cap ship.
Chimera DPS: 1500. Estamel fitted State Raven DPS: 2500. The Chimera doesn't outperform the State Raven for missions. And no, tanking isn't an issue for an Estamel fitted State Raven.
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Incendi
Gracious Bodily Harm
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Posted - 2009.03.19 13:11:00 -
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But it's easier to tank the carrier then it is the state raven.
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Veritech knight
Envoy Corps
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Posted - 2009.03.19 13:29:00 -
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being the owner of a high sec carrier myself, I can say that a GM has told me that you *cannot* run missions with it. no fighting of any kind allowed.
bump for ya F90. if you get 15b I will sell my thanatos :)
o/
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Dark Voynix
Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2009.03.19 15:58:00 -
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Originally by: Veritech knight being the owner of a high sec carrier myself, I can say that a GM has told me that you *cannot* run missions with it. no fighting of any kind allowed.
bump for ya F90. if you get 15b I will sell my thanatos :)
o/
in before cribba's reply!!
This is wrong. you can do missions but you cannot attacke people ( PVE: yes, PVP:no ). This point have been clarified several times in several hi sec auction. Some of them with direct Dev reply.
you cant fight back even if attacked by PCS (so no pvp even to defend yourself .. if you are in war just dont use cap ships) but nothing prevent you to fire at rats.
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F90OEX
F9X
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Posted - 2009.03.19 17:38:00 -
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Hi Veritech ...
I know we have talked about this before, but my understanding has always been its Ok to use it from missions since when your at the belt what you going to do when rats show up and start attacking your mining drones lol ..
3. You may not use your capital ship's attributes to gain any sort of advantage over other players while in high security space.
This is really open to your own interpretation.
You could also assume I am gaining advantage when mining and taking advantage of storing ore in the corp mx bay.
My own belief has been those rules are more directed for pvp. As for the 15bil offer last one sold for 20bil, and I believe this is in a better system and closer to Jita, plus look at the bangbus shuttles some have sold between 450-500mil that's nuts.
IF it sells for 15bil+ it sells, If it don't not going to bother me.
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Veritech knight
Envoy Corps
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Posted - 2009.03.19 18:01:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Voynix
This is wrong. you can do missions but you cannot attacke people ( PVE: yes, PVP:no ). This point have been clarified several times in several hi sec auction. Some of them with direct Dev reply.
you cant fight back even if attacked by PCS (so no pvp even to defend yourself .. if you are in war just dont use cap ships) but nothing prevent you to fire at rats.
look, just repeating what a GM told me. of course, you can pretty much do whatever you want until another player petitions you..then you're at the mercy of a GM.
when at war you're not even allowed to undock.
asked if we could fight corp mates for fun, reply: No, not shooting at other ships whatsoever.
but like I said, YMMV.
F90: when I am mining and get attacked by rats, I just let them shoot at me then send out the drones again
free bump :) o/
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Taius Pax
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Posted - 2009.03.19 18:41:00 -
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What's the current state of this auction? Would you be willing to trade for a combination of isk / ships worth your 15 mil asking price?
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Dzil
Caldari Apache Research Team
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Posted - 2009.03.19 18:54:00 -
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Originally by: Veritech knight
Originally by: Dark Voynix
This is wrong. you can do missions but you cannot attacke people ( PVE: yes, PVP:no ). This point have been clarified several times in several hi sec auction. Some of them with direct Dev reply.
you cant fight back even if attacked by PCS (so no pvp even to defend yourself .. if you are in war just dont use cap ships) but nothing prevent you to fire at rats.
look, just repeating what a GM told me. of course, you can pretty much do whatever you want until another player petitions you..then you're at the mercy of a GM.
when at war you're not even allowed to undock.
asked if we could fight corp mates for fun, reply: No, not shooting at other ships whatsoever.
but like I said, YMMV.
F90: when I am mining and get attacked by rats, I just let them shoot at me then send out the drones again
free bump :) o/
My read of the linked post would lead me to believe employing a carrier in space where most players cannot field one due to game mechanics would be an unfair advantage. High sec carriers are something of a novelty and in limited supply - I don't think I'd risk it being deflated by using it to go missioning in high sec.
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F90OEX
F9X
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Posted - 2009.03.19 20:30:00 -
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Originally by: Taius Pax What's the current state of this auction? Would you be willing to trade for a combination of isk / ships worth your 15 mil asking price?
you mean 15bil? + send me a mail of what your willing to offer with the combination of Isk and ships, and I will let you know.
15bil is the highest I have been offered so far, since other people have expressed interest, I'm running it til Saturday.
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F90OEX
F9X
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Posted - 2009.03.20 12:15:00 -
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Bump for to today, any questions/offers I will be in game for a few hrs later.
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Azorean
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2009.03.20 14:00:00 -
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You may consider this a free bump To all of those that are concern with using a High Sec. Carrier for missions I asked a GM about it and was told they have no problems with it at this time. F900EX I've send you an in game mail with a proposal, I'm not sure you got it? If not let me know, thank you.
Regards, Azorean
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F90OEX
F9X
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Posted - 2009.03.20 16:49:00 -
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Originally by: Azorean You may consider this a free bump To all of those that are concern with using a High Sec. Carrier for missions I asked a GM about it and was told they have no problems with it at this time. F900EX I've send you an in game mail with a proposal, I'm not sure you got it? If not let me know, thank you.
Regards, Azorean
Reply sent back, and thanks for your GM feedback.
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