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Giltoniel Amarr Vaab and Company Stainless.	Posted - 2009.03.15 04:42:00 - [91] Lol, one goon pretending that he can write and the other goons pretending that they can read. Same as PL with attention span of a hamster. You are not fooling anybody over here, nobody read that ****e.
RVWinkle Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.15 04:43:00 - [92] Originally by: RVWinkle Fantastic read James, I love how you tie it all together in the end. Hopefully being a prophet doesn't go to you head. On second thought can you predict a sandwich in my future James? I'm kinda hungry.
Mrs Trzzbk Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.15 05:46:00 - [93] Originally by: Spiffy Sunkist Oh my god. I got trough the first two sentences. Gonns=Bad , You=Bad. Go back too your cages. What the hell is a "gonn"?
Valkazm Amarr Russian Specnaz Red Alliance	Posted - 2009.03.15 06:04:00 - [94] One of the best reads i had its fun to look back and see history from another perspective of what happened during that time, thumbs up
Jack Gates Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.15 06:11:00 - [95] Originally by: Giltoniel Lol, one goon pretending that he can write and the other goons pretending that they can read. Same as PL with attention span of a hamster. You are not fooling anybody over here, nobody read that ****e. much like how "stainless" is a nobody alliance
Aurvundill Caldari Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.15 06:20:00 - [96] Originally by: Mrs Trzzbk Originally by: Spiffy Sunkist Oh my god. I got trough the first two sentences. Gonns=Bad , You=Bad. Go back too your cages. What the hell is a "gonn"? He hasn't learned Typing I yet. :/
Amy Frost Gallente eXceed Inc. Minor Threat.	Posted - 2009.03.15 06:24:00 - [97] \o James 315 I've truly enjoyed this write up on EVE History... Keep up the good work mate Originally by: t20 WE AER GIOGN FRO MROE BREE
Proxay Gallente Fallen Angel's Blade.	Posted - 2009.03.15 06:52:00 - [98] Edited by: Proxay on 15/03/2009 06:55:12 Originally by: Gneeznow Originally by: Proxay Originally by: Gneeznow Originally by: Proxay That was a station owned by xelas, some victory that was. You were in xelas at the time Yeah, so why was that whole, ASCN TOOK A XELAS STATION, EPIC MOMENT IN HISTORY, part about then? I mean, _I_ was in Xelas, and ASCN attacked a station belonging to _ME_, and took it. GG that was a challenge worthy of song and dance years later. because firstly at the time xelas were bob's loudest pets on the forums, the second bob done anything they were often the first to come to the forums and brag about it, despite being one of the most awful alliances ever (I was in xelas I know how truly bad they were) Secondly, altho xelas's owned the station, it was bob's space, all the sov maps at the time listed fountain as bob space not xelas space, so trying to downplay ASCN taking that station is pointless, it was in bob space with xelas simply acting as a caretaker. The fact of the matter is, xelas had to go crying to bob to come save them (as usual) bob had to redirect resources to retake the station, which worked in ASCN's favour in the south (to a certain degree) at the time it was also a large boost to moral and a slap in the face to the 'omnipotent' bob but w/e proxay I'm sure you'll just disregard everything I said and repeat your usual downplayed response peppered with bitterness That's completely wrong, Xelas was proud of itself for retaking PNQY without bob assistance, bob didn't send ANYTHING up to fountain, ASCN just didn't turn up to defend. We grinded towers with 20 man bs squads (LOL) that was all we had, or all we could muster, and the only people fighting back were Celest, so they'll back this up. all in all, you don't seem to be too cluey on the whole PNQY thing, I was at least there, for the entirety of the fail. I can retype it later on tonight or something, in great depth, if you want, I may talk to a few people to get backup on how it all went down for a more accurate report, but what you just said there was way off (In regards to ASCN taking the station, sov, bob assistance, how it was taken back), xelas failing was 100% on the mark though. If you want to sit there calling me bitter, 'cos I know you're wrong on something, go ahead, but if you really want, I'll type it up properly, and give you a rough timescale of how things progressed, the killboard (xelas.griefwatch.net)still has a lot of our deaths listed on it, so I can give time frames etc. Also, if any celest members want to help me write it up from their perspective (PNQY During ASCN/BOB war), please eve-mail me in-game, and we'll work something out. Edit - R0ot I'd like a hand from you mate, you were like my best buddy back then :P We don't recruit anyone, go away.
Himo Amasacia Minmatar Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.15 08:06:00 - [99] Very nice writeup James. you have somewhat inspired me to do up my own story on some of the stuff I've been involved in. I'll see what I can put together. "Constant practice devoted to one subject often outdoes both intelligence and skill." -Cicero
Dahlia Houghton Caldari DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.15 09:04:00 - [100] Originally by: Proxay Xelas was proud of itself for retaking PNQY without bob assistance, bob didn't send ANYTHING up to fountain, ASCN just didn't turn up to defend. I really wasn't going to post but thanks for a good laugh.
Fintroll Minmatar Amok. Minor Threat.	Posted - 2009.03.15 10:14:00 - [101] You're like a ****ing posting magician. This is amazing.
Therem Harth Caldari Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2009.03.15 13:12:00 - [102] Originally by: James 315 Nevertheless, AAA was enlisted to destroy Axiom Empire so that ASCN would have no allies to count on, either. A vulture's vulture, AAA agreed, though it struggled mightily to take the future BoB pet's one station system. James, while all in all I would like to commend you on a very nice job writing down history of important EvE politics and wars, this little slimy piece of contemporary propaganda throws bad light on the veracity of your text in a whole. I understand that the current venomous hate to -A- flowing top-down in Goonswarm dictates necessity to spew stuff like this. I also should say it's a nifty way to insert a little bit of lies in the middle of a big bag of truth, or almost truth, and an entertaining read at that. However, this doesn't mean lies won't be noticed. At that historical moment in time, -A- never took any orders, or contracts, or political and/or other offers from BoB. Impass was taken in a specific war campaign which had strategic importance to the then relatively small, and hardly formed yet -A- alliance, due to the control of lucrative isk-generating assets in that area, necessary for fast growth of war machine and alliance financing in general, especially important in the light of the just finished war with Huzzah Federation. If you recall, Impass is the core -A- region in terms of historical territory-holding. There is no doubt that attack on Impass used an opportunity of ASCN being embroiled in a quarrel with BoB; also, your remark on "struggling mightily" might benefit from the fact that Impass holders, AXE, led by Steel Rat, were in all reality the only PVP-capable force in ASCN/AXE alliance born out of the great XETIC betrayal (yes, I'm biased against ASCN, sorry, can't restraint myself to not insert a betrayal remark), technically the ASCN military. After being evicted from Impass, AXE has wandered around the Galaxy and rather quickly fell to the BoB side. As much as you would like to say that your version of taking of the Impass is true, I am afraid that you do not have any first-hand knowledge of the decision-making process, and will be unable to provide any proof of your accusation, Mr.K skills notwithstanding. To verify that my initial understanding was correct, I have made several direct inquiries within -A- and cross-referenced results with my old Red Alliance contacts (those who were close to the top at the times).
Dkiler Gallente Dkiller Delta Force Corp. CORPVS DELICTI	Posted - 2009.03.15 13:25:00 - [103] get a life ohhwait dont
Tyrrax Thorrk Amarr Guiding Hand Social Club	Posted - 2009.03.15 13:27:00 - [104] yeah you're right -A- had nothing to do with BoB at the time, but BoB did benefit from you taking AXE out but didn't you destroy Huzzah after AXE was already gone ?
Therem Harth Caldari Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2009.03.15 14:20:00 - [105] Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk yeah you're right -A- had nothing to do with BoB at the time, but BoB did benefit from you taking AXE out but didn't you destroy Huzzah after AXE was already gone ? I did some additional fact-checking, and it seems that my description is correct. Huzzah was attacked around the time when Hans Roaming left the alliance, somewhere around the summer 2006. AXE was attacked later, in the fall of 2006 and the actual finishing touches in winter 2006/2007. As to unintended side influences, this is one of the fun parts of EvE political landscape. E.g. when RAZOR was battling goons in XZH together with D2, it was also benefiting BoB, and RAZOR roaming gangs flew in Syndicate against goons during that time, too, including some (granted, not permanent, and not official, spur-of-the-moment only) FC coordination with BoB. P.S. Just checked ingame, this is from Hans employment record - Galactic Shipyards Inc from 2005.05.20 18:06 to 2006.07.15 00:12
Koronos Minmatar Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.	Posted - 2009.03.15 14:50:00 - [106] The seeds of the -A- v Axe conflict arose with the creation of -A- and COL leaving Stain- Alliance to fight Axe for the AOK area (only arkanor near stain and a complex there). But I'm not sure that changes James' narrative in any substantive way.
Deridium Caldari Young Enterprise DEFI4NT	Posted - 2009.03.15 15:09:00 - [107] Reading this brings up lots of memories. Was a very good read. The only part of your tale that I find hard to digest is the way you have made yourself out to be the puppetmaster. Originally by: James 315 BoB had to destroy its own largest ally, and in slow motion. So I joined ASCN. From a person who was there since right after the first outpost was put up in 5p till the end of ASCN I take exception to your claims. Your attempts at self-aggrandising in that you knowingly steered ASCN into provoking BOB's wrath and start the campaign against it is just too difficult for me to take seriously. I am not saying that you did not participate in these events. To come on here way after the fact though and pretend that you knew exactly how your small part in it was going to eventually culminate in the destruction of BOB is ridiculous. I still mourn the passing of ASCN. For all its problems and shortcomings we built an empire in 0.0 the likes of which in my opinion hasn't been matched yet. A lot of things went wrong that led to its demise but you sir I do not believe had as much of an effect as you would like people now to believe. just my 2 isk.
NotACynoAlt CynoAlt Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.15 15:38:00 - [108] Originally by: Therem Harth Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk yeah you're right -A- had nothing to do with BoB at the time, but BoB did benefit from you taking AXE out but didn't you destroy Huzzah after AXE was already gone ? I did some additional fact-checking, and it seems that my description is correct. Huzzah was attacked around the time when Hans Roaming left the alliance, somewhere around the summer 2006. AXE was attacked later, in the fall of 2006 and the actual finishing touches in winter 2006/2007. As to unintended side influences, this is one of the fun parts of EvE political landscape. E.g. when RAZOR was battling goons in XZH together with D2, it was also benefiting BoB, and RAZOR roaming gangs flew in Syndicate against goons during that time, too, including some (granted, not permanent, and not official, spur-of-the-moment only) FC coordination with BoB. P.S. Just checked ingame, this is from Hans employment record - Galactic Shipyards Inc from 2005.05.20 18:06 to 2006.07.15 00:12 Guys guys GUYS AAA alliance members providing facts to other AAA alliance members to support a CAOD post about James being wrong about something. GUYS GUYS GUYS!!!!!!!! Haha and James has been doing this FAR longer than he's been in GoonSwarm. Being in GoonSwarm makes this no history no less accurate than it already is.
R0ot Caldari North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.03.15 15:54:00 - [109] Originally by: Proxay We grinded towers with 20 man bs squads (LOL) that was all we had, or all we could muster, and the only people fighting back were Celest, so they'll back this up. It was more like 18 ravens and you and one other lad in megas. Good times y0! True that though xelas needed to die the death it did, especially with instances of carriers going inside large bubbles to unanchor them.... ....whats this thread about again? Originally by: Proxay Edit - R0ot I'd like a hand from you mate, you were like my best buddy back then :P Shush our butt buddy times must never be known.... And i'm not going to step in front of the limerick man, the phrase 'look out he's got a knife comes to mind' <11cflux> OTH, pandemic can only wield 40 dreads and 10 support.
RVWinkle Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.15 16:23:00 - [110] Originally by: Deridium I am not saying that you did not participate in these events. To come on here way after the fact though and pretend that you knew exactly how your small part in it was going to eventually culminate in the destruction of BOB is ridiculous. Do you really think that James perceives himself as a Christlike figure who can see the future? Did you consider that embellishing makes the story far more entertaining? Before you answer be sure to recognize that the entire setting is fictional.
Deridium Caldari Young Enterprise DEFI4NT	Posted - 2009.03.15 16:50:00 - [111] Originally by: RVWinkle Originally by: Deridium I am not saying that you did not participate in these events. To come on here way after the fact though and pretend that you knew exactly how your small part in it was going to eventually culminate in the destruction of BOB is ridiculous. Do you really think that James perceives himself as a Christlike figure who can see the future? Did you consider that embellishing makes the story far more entertaining? Before you answer be sure to recognize that the entire setting is fictional. I must have misunderstood the op then, or at least its intent. I mistook it as a telling of the history of EVE through the use of factual events. My bad. I see now then that it is a fairy tale of sorts, with just a basis in fact. Thank you for setting things straight for me.
Lord Abbadon Gallente Volition Cult The Volition Cult	Posted - 2009.03.15 20:37:00 - [112] always enjoyed your posts james, don't ever stop and ignore the crying pets.
Faekurias Caldari Black Legion Command Black Legion.	Posted - 2009.03.15 20:50:00 - [113] Holy sh!t. ------------------------- *FAEKURIAS* Recruiting NOW. Join channel "Black Legion public"
THEDON1 Caldari Dark-Rising	Posted - 2009.03.15 20:55:00 - [114] ' my supermodel girlfriend 'yeah right we all belive u
Ackaroth Gallente Digital assassins The Foray Project	Posted - 2009.03.16 03:19:00 - [115] 9/10, would read again. Pretty good writeup, whether factual or not I haven't a clue. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Leader of Gay Ops since '05
Himo Amasacia Minmatar Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.16 03:57:00 - [116] Originally by: R0ot And i'm not going to step in front of the limerick man, the phrase 'look out he's got a knife comes to mind' Proxays from Limerick? Sheesh how come all the most obnoxious and annoying players come from Limerick? (including Coranor and, yes, my good self.) "Constant practice devoted to one subject often outdoes both intelligence and skill." -Cicero
Graelyn Amarr Order of Catharsis	Posted - 2009.03.16 05:19:00 - [117] That was an incredible read. Grandmaster, [OCATH] War Monastery and Brewery
Murk Loar Caldari O.W.N. Corp OWN Alliance	Posted - 2009.03.16 06:38:00 - [118] That was pretty damn awesome.
The Mittani Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.16 06:44:00 - [119] Originally by: Proxay That's completely wrong, Xelas was proud of itself for retaking PNQY without bob assistance, bob didn't send ANYTHING up to fountain, ASCN just didn't turn up to defend. We grinded towers with 20 man bs squads (LOL) that was all we had, or all we could muster, and the only people fighting back were Celest, so they'll back this up. all in all, you don't seem to be too cluey on the whole PNQY thing, I was at least there, for the entirety of the fail. I can retype it later on tonight or something, in great depth, if you want, I may talk to a few people to get backup on how it all went down for a more accurate report, but what you just said there was way off (In regards to ASCN taking the station, sov, bob assistance, how it was taken back), xelas failing was 100% on the mark though. If you want to sit there calling me bitter, 'cos I know you're wrong on something, go ahead, but if you really want, I'll type it up properly, and give you a rough timescale of how things progressed, the killboard (xelas.griefwatch.net)still has a lot of our deaths listed on it, so I can give time frames etc. Also, if any celest members want to help me write it up from their perspective (PNQY During ASCN/BOB war), please eve-mail me in-game, and we'll work something out. Edit - R0ot I'd like a hand from you mate, you were like my best buddy back then :P um im a little confused here are you defending xelas or is this a troll
Al'Htaed Minmatar Hug Nutz	Posted - 2009.03.16 07:03:00 - [120] SirMolle's (or whoever wrote it) playbook was the best part. I haven't seen it before. Especially when he's coaching Bobits to post on CAOD. How pathetic.

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