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Gordano
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Posted - 2004.08.16 14:56:00 -
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Moved to Corp forum - Orestes
After liberating the NOL-M9 station from CA control (which it had been for several days), I was posted to defend our acquisition.
It started with a FA imparior, attacking our station.
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Channelname: Local Listener: Gordano Session started: 2004.08.16 13:23:17
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[ 2004.08.16 13:56:11 ] Gordano > hello there [ 2004.08.16 13:56:37 ] Gordano > you attacking this station? [ 2004.08.16 13:56:51 ] Gordano > 2004.08.16 13:56:00
Solar System: NOL-M9 Current Shield Level: 100% [ 2004.08.16 13:57:00 ] Sir Adam > This is not your station mate;') [ 2004.08.16 13:57:13 ] Gordano > afraid so right now [ 2004.08.16 13:57:23 ] Gordano > please sir, cease your attack [ 2004.08.16 13:57:36 ] Gordano > i am peaceful but i will defend the station [ 2004.08.16 13:57:46 ] Sir Adam > I hope you do engage me, you will feel the wrath of the fountain alliance on your ass if you engage me. [ 2004.08.16 13:58:13 ] Sir Adam > Mind i remind you, your fountain passport has expired? [ 2004.08.16 13:58:35 ] Gordano > seriously m8.. please leave this station alone, i liberated it from CA with the help of the Delve Alliance [ 2004.08.16 13:58:53 ] Gordano > yes, should probablly take that out of my bio :) [ 2004.08.16 13:59:44 ] Gordano > i request that you hold fire on the station [ 2004.08.16 14:00:45 ] Sir Adam > And if not? [ 2004.08.16 14:00:56 ] Gordano > i guess you will be here all night [ 2004.08.16 14:01:08 ] Gordano > and into tomorrow [ 2004.08.16 14:01:12 ] Gordano > then maybe into the next day [ 2004.08.16 14:01:49 ] Gordano > *yawn* [ 2004.08.16 14:02:09 ] Gordano > what do you do like 1 damage per shot? [ 2004.08.16 14:02:30 ] Sir Adam > 2004.08.16 14:01:14combatYour Civilian Gatling Pulse Laser perfectly strikes Deep Space 5, wrecking for 9.8 damage. Your Civilian Gatling Pulse Laser perfectly strikes Deep Space 5, wrecking for 9.8 damage. [ 2004.08.16 14:02:49 ] Gordano > oo, dont you feel special? [ 2004.08.16 14:03:01 ] Sir Adam > Your going to feel special in about 15 minutes. [ 2004.08.16 14:03:32 ] Gordano > will i? [ 2004.08.16 14:03:43 ] Gordano > seriously, leave this station alone m8 [ 2004.08.16 14:04:58 ] Sir Adam > Oh, I will. [ 2004.08.16 14:05:03 ] Gordano > thank you [ 2004.08.16 14:05:11 ] Gordano > and dont call your buddies in either ;) ------------------------------------------------------------
Continued...
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Gordano
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Posted - 2004.08.16 14:56:00 -
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Moved to Corp forum - Orestes
After liberating the NOL-M9 station from CA control (which it had been for several days), I was posted to defend our acquisition.
It started with a FA imparior, attacking our station.
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Channelname: Local Listener: Gordano Session started: 2004.08.16 13:23:17
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[ 2004.08.16 13:56:11 ] Gordano > hello there [ 2004.08.16 13:56:37 ] Gordano > you attacking this station? [ 2004.08.16 13:56:51 ] Gordano > 2004.08.16 13:56:00
Solar System: NOL-M9 Current Shield Level: 100% [ 2004.08.16 13:57:00 ] Sir Adam > This is not your station mate;') [ 2004.08.16 13:57:13 ] Gordano > afraid so right now [ 2004.08.16 13:57:23 ] Gordano > please sir, cease your attack [ 2004.08.16 13:57:36 ] Gordano > i am peaceful but i will defend the station [ 2004.08.16 13:57:46 ] Sir Adam > I hope you do engage me, you will feel the wrath of the fountain alliance on your ass if you engage me. [ 2004.08.16 13:58:13 ] Sir Adam > Mind i remind you, your fountain passport has expired? [ 2004.08.16 13:58:35 ] Gordano > seriously m8.. please leave this station alone, i liberated it from CA with the help of the Delve Alliance [ 2004.08.16 13:58:53 ] Gordano > yes, should probablly take that out of my bio :) [ 2004.08.16 13:59:44 ] Gordano > i request that you hold fire on the station [ 2004.08.16 14:00:45 ] Sir Adam > And if not? [ 2004.08.16 14:00:56 ] Gordano > i guess you will be here all night [ 2004.08.16 14:01:08 ] Gordano > and into tomorrow [ 2004.08.16 14:01:12 ] Gordano > then maybe into the next day [ 2004.08.16 14:01:49 ] Gordano > *yawn* [ 2004.08.16 14:02:09 ] Gordano > what do you do like 1 damage per shot? [ 2004.08.16 14:02:30 ] Sir Adam > 2004.08.16 14:01:14combatYour Civilian Gatling Pulse Laser perfectly strikes Deep Space 5, wrecking for 9.8 damage. Your Civilian Gatling Pulse Laser perfectly strikes Deep Space 5, wrecking for 9.8 damage. [ 2004.08.16 14:02:49 ] Gordano > oo, dont you feel special? [ 2004.08.16 14:03:01 ] Sir Adam > Your going to feel special in about 15 minutes. [ 2004.08.16 14:03:32 ] Gordano > will i? [ 2004.08.16 14:03:43 ] Gordano > seriously, leave this station alone m8 [ 2004.08.16 14:04:58 ] Sir Adam > Oh, I will. [ 2004.08.16 14:05:03 ] Gordano > thank you [ 2004.08.16 14:05:11 ] Gordano > and dont call your buddies in either ;) ------------------------------------------------------------
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Gordano
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Posted - 2004.08.16 15:00:00 -
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I was a bit miffed about this, so I convo'd his (Co-)CEO
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Channelname: feroci0us conversation Listener: Gordano Session started: 2004.08.16 14:17:31
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[ 2004.08.16 14:19:01 ] -> feroci0us has joined the channel [ 2004.08.16 14:19:07 ] Gordano > hello there [ 2004.08.16 14:19:19 ] feroci0us > Hi. [ 2004.08.16 14:19:22 ] Gordano > i had a visit from one of your members that disturbed me [ 2004.08.16 14:19:44 ] feroci0us > Oh yes? [ 2004.08.16 14:19:55 ] Gordano > yes [ 2004.08.16 14:20:25 ] Gordano > sir adam came, attempted to attack the station that we liberated from the CA, and then threatened me with "FA's wrath" if was to defend the station from him [ 2004.08.16 14:20:55 ] feroci0us > Well, it was, Fa's station in the first place, eh. [ 2004.08.16 14:21:02 ] Gordano > at one point, yes [ 2004.08.16 14:21:15 ] Gordano > however, you boys dont really have interests in this area, we do [ 2004.08.16 14:22:04 ] feroci0us > Oh, and your assured that we dont have interests in the area, huh? [ 2004.08.16 14:22:09 ] Gordano > it was CA for several days before we liberated it [ 2004.08.16 14:22:30 ] Gordano > the only people i see around here usually are STAR, DA, and us [ 2004.08.16 14:24:48 ] feroci0us > I see. [ 2004.08.16 14:25:04 ] Gordano > all we request is that you leave the station alone :) [ 2004.08.16 14:25:19 ] Gordano > we are prepared to defend it/retake it in case of a CA onslaught [ 2004.08.16 14:25:35 ] feroci0us > AS are we, we've just had our hands sligtly full in the recent week. [ 2004.08.16 14:25:41 ] feroci0us > if you knew what was going on, you'd understand [ 2004.08.16 14:25:50 ] Gordano > i understand your at war with them [ 2004.08.16 14:26:13 ] Gordano > however, my alliance will be using NOL as a base of operations... [ 2004.08.16 14:31:38 ] Gordano > so is it possible to leave it under our command? [ 2004.08.16 14:31:50 ] feroci0us > I cannot say. [ 2004.08.16 14:32:00 ] Gordano > err,arent you a CEO? [ 2004.08.16 14:34:43 ] feroci0us > yes i am. [ 2004.08.16 14:34:49 ] feroci0us > But i dont represent the Fountain alliance.. [ 2004.08.16 14:34:53 ] feroci0us > as a 'rep' [ 2004.08.16 14:34:59 ] feroci0us > i'm just another Member Corporation. [ 2004.08.16 14:35:04 ] feroci0us > As a side note, what alliance are you with. [ 2004.08.16 14:35:13 ] Gordano > allright, fair enough, could you at least agree not to authorize an assault on the station by your boys? i.e so i can defend it [ 2004.08.16 14:35:38 ] Gordano > i am the founder of the United Systems Commonwealth (alliance) [ 2004.08.16 14:36:06 ] feroci0us > Well, the way my corporation sees it [ 2004.08.16 14:36:15 ] feroci0us > You came in after the war, and collected the spoils [ 2004.08.16 14:36:17 ] feroci0us > my boys dont like that. [ 2004.08.16 14:36:18 ] feroci0us > Be warned. [ 2004.08.16 14:36:24 ] Gordano > sir [ 2004.08.16 14:36:47 ] Gordano > i just want your assurances that you/FA will not authorize an attack on this station [ 2004.08.16 14:36:59 ] feroci0us > I cannot assure that. [ 2004.08.16 14:37:01 ] Gordano > and it isnt a spoil, i did the work to capture it back, and this war is still on afaik [ 2004.08.16 14:37:08 ] feroci0us > It was our station, and eventually we will want it back. [ 2004.08.16 14:37:27 ] feroci0us > Whether it be today, or tomorrow..or next week. [ 2004.08.16 14:40:07 ] feroci0us > Mind you, i only represent the views of my corporation [ 2004.08.16 14:40:15 ] Gordano > Can you please put me in contact with someone that CAN make the assurances your cant [ 2004.08.16 14:40:16 ] feroci0us > and not of my alliance. [ 2004.08.16 14:40:33 ] Gordano > *you [ 2004.08.16 14:41:29 ] feroci0us > Theres nobody, including the fountain alliance, that controls what my corporation does with its station. [ 2004.08.16 14:41:35 ] feroci0us > Including you, mate. [ 2004.08.16 14:43:36 ] Gordano > why do you feel the need to threaten me? [ 2004.08.16 14:44:41 ] Gordano > also, what are your alliances thoughts on piracy? [ 2004.08.16 14:45:00 ] Gordano > because you do realize, that stealing a station from a peaceful body would be considered an act of piracy.. [ 2004.08.16 14:45:24 ] feroci0us > Shall i say its what i do? [ 2004.08.16 14:45:29 ] feroci0us > 'threatening' people. [ 2004.08.16 14:45:51 ] Gordano > and your thoughts on piracy? [ 2004.08.16 14:46:03 ] feroci0us > The proper act would have been to give the station back to its original owner ------------------------------------------------------------
At this point, feroci0us warped in, and proceeded to open fire on my armageddon, without any provocation.
United Systems Commonwealth is a peaceful coporation actively enguaged in the war against the CA in Delve, we have friends all over the board, and this act has bothered me.
Continued..
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Gordano
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Posted - 2004.08.16 15:00:00 -
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I was a bit miffed about this, so I convo'd his (Co-)CEO
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Channelname: feroci0us conversation Listener: Gordano Session started: 2004.08.16 14:17:31
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[ 2004.08.16 14:19:01 ] -> feroci0us has joined the channel [ 2004.08.16 14:19:07 ] Gordano > hello there [ 2004.08.16 14:19:19 ] feroci0us > Hi. [ 2004.08.16 14:19:22 ] Gordano > i had a visit from one of your members that disturbed me [ 2004.08.16 14:19:44 ] feroci0us > Oh yes? [ 2004.08.16 14:19:55 ] Gordano > yes [ 2004.08.16 14:20:25 ] Gordano > sir adam came, attempted to attack the station that we liberated from the CA, and then threatened me with "FA's wrath" if was to defend the station from him [ 2004.08.16 14:20:55 ] feroci0us > Well, it was, Fa's station in the first place, eh. [ 2004.08.16 14:21:02 ] Gordano > at one point, yes [ 2004.08.16 14:21:15 ] Gordano > however, you boys dont really have interests in this area, we do [ 2004.08.16 14:22:04 ] feroci0us > Oh, and your assured that we dont have interests in the area, huh? [ 2004.08.16 14:22:09 ] Gordano > it was CA for several days before we liberated it [ 2004.08.16 14:22:30 ] Gordano > the only people i see around here usually are STAR, DA, and us [ 2004.08.16 14:24:48 ] feroci0us > I see. [ 2004.08.16 14:25:04 ] Gordano > all we request is that you leave the station alone :) [ 2004.08.16 14:25:19 ] Gordano > we are prepared to defend it/retake it in case of a CA onslaught [ 2004.08.16 14:25:35 ] feroci0us > AS are we, we've just had our hands sligtly full in the recent week. [ 2004.08.16 14:25:41 ] feroci0us > if you knew what was going on, you'd understand [ 2004.08.16 14:25:50 ] Gordano > i understand your at war with them [ 2004.08.16 14:26:13 ] Gordano > however, my alliance will be using NOL as a base of operations... [ 2004.08.16 14:31:38 ] Gordano > so is it possible to leave it under our command? [ 2004.08.16 14:31:50 ] feroci0us > I cannot say. [ 2004.08.16 14:32:00 ] Gordano > err,arent you a CEO? [ 2004.08.16 14:34:43 ] feroci0us > yes i am. [ 2004.08.16 14:34:49 ] feroci0us > But i dont represent the Fountain alliance.. [ 2004.08.16 14:34:53 ] feroci0us > as a 'rep' [ 2004.08.16 14:34:59 ] feroci0us > i'm just another Member Corporation. [ 2004.08.16 14:35:04 ] feroci0us > As a side note, what alliance are you with. [ 2004.08.16 14:35:13 ] Gordano > allright, fair enough, could you at least agree not to authorize an assault on the station by your boys? i.e so i can defend it [ 2004.08.16 14:35:38 ] Gordano > i am the founder of the United Systems Commonwealth (alliance) [ 2004.08.16 14:36:06 ] feroci0us > Well, the way my corporation sees it [ 2004.08.16 14:36:15 ] feroci0us > You came in after the war, and collected the spoils [ 2004.08.16 14:36:17 ] feroci0us > my boys dont like that. [ 2004.08.16 14:36:18 ] feroci0us > Be warned. [ 2004.08.16 14:36:24 ] Gordano > sir [ 2004.08.16 14:36:47 ] Gordano > i just want your assurances that you/FA will not authorize an attack on this station [ 2004.08.16 14:36:59 ] feroci0us > I cannot assure that. [ 2004.08.16 14:37:01 ] Gordano > and it isnt a spoil, i did the work to capture it back, and this war is still on afaik [ 2004.08.16 14:37:08 ] feroci0us > It was our station, and eventually we will want it back. [ 2004.08.16 14:37:27 ] feroci0us > Whether it be today, or tomorrow..or next week. [ 2004.08.16 14:40:07 ] feroci0us > Mind you, i only represent the views of my corporation [ 2004.08.16 14:40:15 ] Gordano > Can you please put me in contact with someone that CAN make the assurances your cant [ 2004.08.16 14:40:16 ] feroci0us > and not of my alliance. [ 2004.08.16 14:40:33 ] Gordano > *you [ 2004.08.16 14:41:29 ] feroci0us > Theres nobody, including the fountain alliance, that controls what my corporation does with its station. [ 2004.08.16 14:41:35 ] feroci0us > Including you, mate. [ 2004.08.16 14:43:36 ] Gordano > why do you feel the need to threaten me? [ 2004.08.16 14:44:41 ] Gordano > also, what are your alliances thoughts on piracy? [ 2004.08.16 14:45:00 ] Gordano > because you do realize, that stealing a station from a peaceful body would be considered an act of piracy.. [ 2004.08.16 14:45:24 ] feroci0us > Shall i say its what i do? [ 2004.08.16 14:45:29 ] feroci0us > 'threatening' people. [ 2004.08.16 14:45:51 ] Gordano > and your thoughts on piracy? [ 2004.08.16 14:46:03 ] feroci0us > The proper act would have been to give the station back to its original owner ------------------------------------------------------------
At this point, feroci0us warped in, and proceeded to open fire on my armageddon, without any provocation.
United Systems Commonwealth is a peaceful coporation actively enguaged in the war against the CA in Delve, we have friends all over the board, and this act has bothered me.
Continued..
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Gordano
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Posted - 2004.08.16 15:02:00 -
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Edited by: Gordano on 16/08/2004 15:05:38 We felt that the FA was a peaceful, non-pirate organization, but after this action, they seem no better than the CA themselves.
I request an FA representative gets in touch with me over said actions to explain FA's position on the matter, please.
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Gordano
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Posted - 2004.08.16 15:02:00 -
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Edited by: Gordano on 16/08/2004 15:05:38 We felt that the FA was a peaceful, non-pirate organization, but after this action, they seem no better than the CA themselves.
I request an FA representative gets in touch with me over said actions to explain FA's position on the matter, please.
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Phoenus
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Posted - 2004.08.16 15:04:00 -
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This is an IC Forum, what you posted was definately not IC
Try the Corp HQ Forum, not Galnet
Phoenus Enlightened Incorporated |
Phoenus
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Posted - 2004.08.16 15:04:00 -
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This is an IC Forum, what you posted was definately not IC
Try the Corp HQ Forum, not Galnet
Phoenus Enlightened Incorporated |
Celebon
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Posted - 2004.08.16 15:05:00 -
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Edited by: Celebon on 16/08/2004 15:07:46 ( Well, depends how he's taking it, it could certainly be IC - I didn't see anything really OOC. However, he might want to post it OOC here as well as these corps have some beef with FA politics as well. )
Drink StarsiÖ Security Division Caldari State Citizen
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Celebon
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Posted - 2004.08.16 15:05:00 -
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Edited by: Celebon on 16/08/2004 15:07:46 ( Well, depends how he's taking it, it could certainly be IC - I didn't see anything really OOC. However, he might want to post it OOC here as well as these corps have some beef with FA politics as well. )
Drink StarsiÖ Security Division Caldari State Citizen
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Gordano
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Posted - 2004.08.16 15:08:00 -
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Oop, I suppose it does belong in the Corp HQ too.. Moving it over now, I apologize.
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Gordano
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Posted - 2004.08.16 15:08:00 -
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Oop, I suppose it does belong in the Corp HQ too.. Moving it over now, I apologize.
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Phoenus
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Posted - 2004.08.16 15:08:00 -
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Posting reams and reams of IG chatlogs isn't RP, it's attempting to state facts, and tbh, should be on Corps and Factions :)
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Phoenus
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Posted - 2004.08.16 15:08:00 -
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Posting reams and reams of IG chatlogs isn't RP, it's attempting to state facts, and tbh, should be on Corps and Factions :)
Phoenus Enlightened Incorporated |
Celebon
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Posted - 2004.08.16 15:13:00 -
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( In a sense, though chatlogs can still be used in RP, depends how you do the addition to the chatlogs. But i'm not going to say to someone what is and what isn't RP to them. )
Drink StarsiÖ Security Division Caldari State Citizen
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Celebon
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Posted - 2004.08.16 15:13:00 -
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( In a sense, though chatlogs can still be used in RP, depends how you do the addition to the chatlogs. But i'm not going to say to someone what is and what isn't RP to them. )
Drink StarsiÖ Security Division Caldari State Citizen
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Gordano
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Posted - 2004.08.16 15:37:00 -
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Apparently its supposed to be here.. They locked the other one..
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Gordano
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Posted - 2004.08.16 15:37:00 -
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Apparently its supposed to be here.. They locked the other one..
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.08.16 15:42:00 -
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/me awaits the "Goaway CA ALT" reply from FA.
Reverend Necrona |
Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.08.16 15:42:00 -
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/me awaits the "Goaway CA ALT" reply from FA.
Reverend Necrona |
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Gordano
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Posted - 2004.08.16 15:46:00 -
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I'm not a CA alt, I am VERY anti CA, they blew up my first thorax, they podded me with implants, and recently they ganked my corpmate... I've been fighting them on a daily basis in 5-6, and I work very hard to keep them out.
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Gordano
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Posted - 2004.08.16 15:46:00 -
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I'm not a CA alt, I am VERY anti CA, they blew up my first thorax, they podded me with implants, and recently they ganked my corpmate... I've been fighting them on a daily basis in 5-6, and I work very hard to keep them out.
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Omniscience
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Posted - 2004.08.16 15:49:00 -
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Originally by: Gordano Apparently its supposed to be here.. They locked the other one..
I descided to lock the other thread since this one was older and had already been moved to the Corp & Factions, which is indeed the correct place for it.
Please do not post duplicate topics.
Any inquiries regarding moderation can be directed to us on e-mail.
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Omniscience
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Posted - 2004.08.16 15:49:00 -
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Originally by: Gordano Apparently its supposed to be here.. They locked the other one..
I descided to lock the other thread since this one was older and had already been moved to the Corp & Factions, which is indeed the correct place for it.
Please do not post duplicate topics.
Any inquiries regarding moderation can be directed to us on e-mail.
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sim2killa
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Posted - 2004.08.16 16:16:00 -
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Just for the record ferocious and sir adam are the same person.
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sim2killa
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Posted - 2004.08.16 16:16:00 -
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Just for the record ferocious and sir adam are the same person.
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Dafuzz
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Posted - 2004.08.16 16:24:00 -
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Originally by: Gordano We felt that the FA was a peaceful, non-pirate organization, but after this action, they seem no better than the CA themselves.
With all due respect, I don't see feroci0us as committing piracy by wanting his corporation station back. AFDT have held that station since the station came to be. I am quite sure that you can use the station as a base of operations within the framework AFDT lays out, provided you haven't made a lifelong enemy by your actions.
I am an interested observer to this, as I use that station myself when I operate down there.
Good job on taking the station. But, since it is conquerable, having AFDT come to take it back can hardly be considered piracy. --
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Dafuzz
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Posted - 2004.08.16 16:24:00 -
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Originally by: Gordano We felt that the FA was a peaceful, non-pirate organization, but after this action, they seem no better than the CA themselves.
With all due respect, I don't see feroci0us as committing piracy by wanting his corporation station back. AFDT have held that station since the station came to be. I am quite sure that you can use the station as a base of operations within the framework AFDT lays out, provided you haven't made a lifelong enemy by your actions.
I am an interested observer to this, as I use that station myself when I operate down there.
Good job on taking the station. But, since it is conquerable, having AFDT come to take it back can hardly be considered piracy. --
-If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets.. |
Royal Tenenbaum
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Posted - 2004.08.16 16:32:00 -
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Edited by: Royal Tenenbaum on 16/08/2004 16:39:45 The act of piracy was firing on Gordano without any stated warning.
I can see ferocious is no diplomat, threatening people with the 'wrath of FA' over an easily resolved dispute is hardly sensible or becoming of an FA CEO. Its interesting that with CA flying around CFS space (although apparently Delve is no longer CFS space, according to the aforementioned ferocious), people are growing increasingly wary of FA - instead of fighting with them against a common enemy.
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Royal Tenenbaum
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Posted - 2004.08.16 16:32:00 -
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Edited by: Royal Tenenbaum on 16/08/2004 16:39:45 The act of piracy was firing on Gordano without any stated warning.
I can see ferocious is no diplomat, threatening people with the 'wrath of FA' over an easily resolved dispute is hardly sensible or becoming of an FA CEO. Its interesting that with CA flying around CFS space (although apparently Delve is no longer CFS space, according to the aforementioned ferocious), people are growing increasingly wary of FA - instead of fighting with them against a common enemy.
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Tikl3r
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Posted - 2004.08.16 16:39:00 -
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Gordano, you have 1 member in the area. When we took the station once you kept on firing for 15 mins so you could take the station. Do you honestly think you should have the station ?
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Tikl3r
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Posted - 2004.08.16 16:39:00 -
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Gordano, you have 1 member in the area. When we took the station once you kept on firing for 15 mins so you could take the station. Do you honestly think you should have the station ?
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.08.16 16:43:00 -
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Originally by: Dafuzz
Originally by: Gordano We felt that the FA was a peaceful, non-pirate organization, but after this action, they seem no better than the CA themselves.
With all due respect, I don't see feroci0us as committing piracy by wanting his corporation station back. AFDT have held that station since the station came to be. I am quite sure that you can use the station as a base of operations within the framework AFDT lays out, provided you haven't made a lifelong enemy by your actions.
I am an interested observer to this, as I use that station myself when I operate down there.
Good job on taking the station. But, since it is conquerable, having AFDT come to take it back can hardly be considered piracy.
How niavie are you? Or did you not read the log. The issue here is this: CFS/Star Alliance/Delve pilots etc. whatever, fought for this station, lost ships for this station and will continue to lose ships. FA who part of the agreement stated that they would DEFEND these stations are indeed nowhere to be seen.
So the CFS people do their bit and instead of thanking them, swallowing ones ego for a minute and doing the sensible thing by allowing them to maintain control of these stations as at the current momment in time the FA is unable to commit any force there, they send a frigate with a gattling laser to attack the station. When resitance is met by the sheer insult of this action they attack those that have fought for this very station.
I find it very interesting that you are uanble to commit resources to defend this station against the CA, yet you are able to commit a ship or two to attack those who defended it.
Now i'll sit here and listen to beuarcratic drivel that will somehow argue that black is white and that FA are not in the wrong, accompanied by an army of alts ripping to pieces the person who started this thread over something daft.
Can't win the arguement? Discredit the person making the arguement against u via completley irrelevant issues. Rinse repeat until the forum becomes a place of alts.
*yawn* Reverend Necrona |
Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.08.16 16:43:00 -
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Originally by: Dafuzz
Originally by: Gordano We felt that the FA was a peaceful, non-pirate organization, but after this action, they seem no better than the CA themselves.
With all due respect, I don't see feroci0us as committing piracy by wanting his corporation station back. AFDT have held that station since the station came to be. I am quite sure that you can use the station as a base of operations within the framework AFDT lays out, provided you haven't made a lifelong enemy by your actions.
I am an interested observer to this, as I use that station myself when I operate down there.
Good job on taking the station. But, since it is conquerable, having AFDT come to take it back can hardly be considered piracy.
How niavie are you? Or did you not read the log. The issue here is this: CFS/Star Alliance/Delve pilots etc. whatever, fought for this station, lost ships for this station and will continue to lose ships. FA who part of the agreement stated that they would DEFEND these stations are indeed nowhere to be seen.
So the CFS people do their bit and instead of thanking them, swallowing ones ego for a minute and doing the sensible thing by allowing them to maintain control of these stations as at the current momment in time the FA is unable to commit any force there, they send a frigate with a gattling laser to attack the station. When resitance is met by the sheer insult of this action they attack those that have fought for this very station.
I find it very interesting that you are uanble to commit resources to defend this station against the CA, yet you are able to commit a ship or two to attack those who defended it.
Now i'll sit here and listen to beuarcratic drivel that will somehow argue that black is white and that FA are not in the wrong, accompanied by an army of alts ripping to pieces the person who started this thread over something daft.
Can't win the arguement? Discredit the person making the arguement against u via completley irrelevant issues. Rinse repeat until the forum becomes a place of alts.
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Oohwha Schipperman
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Posted - 2004.08.16 16:45:00 -
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Truly my favorite part of the logs Gordano posted ...
[ 2004.08.16 14:26:13 ] Gordano > however, my alliance will be using NOL as a base of operations... [ 2004.08.16 14:31:38 ] Gordano > so is it possible to leave it under our command? [ 2004.08.16 14:31:50 ] feroci0us > I cannot say. [ 2004.08.16 14:32:00 ] Gordano > err,arent you a CEO? [ 2004.08.16 14:34:43 ] feroci0us > yes i am. [ 2004.08.16 14:34:49 ] feroci0us > But i dont represent the Fountain alliance.. [ 2004.08.16 14:34:53 ] feroci0us > as a 'rep' [ 2004.08.16 14:34:59 ] feroci0us > i'm just another Member Corporation ...
[ 2004.08.16 14:41:29 ] feroci0us > Theres nobody, including the fountain alliance, that controls what my corporation does with its station.
That's six an a half minutes from "I can't tell you if we'll leave the station alone, because I'm just the CEO of an FA member corp" to "no one, including FA, tells me what to do with that station."
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Oohwha Schipperman
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Posted - 2004.08.16 16:45:00 -
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Truly my favorite part of the logs Gordano posted ...
[ 2004.08.16 14:26:13 ] Gordano > however, my alliance will be using NOL as a base of operations... [ 2004.08.16 14:31:38 ] Gordano > so is it possible to leave it under our command? [ 2004.08.16 14:31:50 ] feroci0us > I cannot say. [ 2004.08.16 14:32:00 ] Gordano > err,arent you a CEO? [ 2004.08.16 14:34:43 ] feroci0us > yes i am. [ 2004.08.16 14:34:49 ] feroci0us > But i dont represent the Fountain alliance.. [ 2004.08.16 14:34:53 ] feroci0us > as a 'rep' [ 2004.08.16 14:34:59 ] feroci0us > i'm just another Member Corporation ...
[ 2004.08.16 14:41:29 ] feroci0us > Theres nobody, including the fountain alliance, that controls what my corporation does with its station.
That's six an a half minutes from "I can't tell you if we'll leave the station alone, because I'm just the CEO of an FA member corp" to "no one, including FA, tells me what to do with that station."
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Trooper B99
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Posted - 2004.08.16 16:52:00 -
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Originally by: Dafuzz
AFDT have held that station since the station came to be.
If i remember correctly lad, it was a CFS corporation that held NOL first before it was taken by AFDT . . though my memory is hazy on that so I might be wrong. No matter, didn't stop me getting an office there. I also belive the refining station around Delve was held by an EmpFed corp before it was taken by FIV. That I do remember as it certainly caused a rukuss when they took it.
*shrugs*
Old news now anyways boys, matter is that all the stations in CFS's space are now held by FA and they will always be taken back by FA if taken by a conquering force be it CA, CFS, DSMA or whatever.
There seems to be a bit of a groundswell of late (probably caused by the fact that FA are a little busy atm) of the CFS and independant "little" people (the non-politicians) wanting FA to give them their stations back. Not that I can blame em, they apparently, doing most of the fighting and dying down there.
Ah well, probably end up with CFS doing nuthin' much again and various corporations leaving 'em and joiing other alliances or corporations.
Seems to be cyclical. *chuckles*
Just get your guns lads and take the Stations and hold onto em. Or at least die trying. Nothing wrong with dying. Does you good it does.
Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106
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Trooper B99
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Posted - 2004.08.16 16:52:00 -
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Originally by: Dafuzz
AFDT have held that station since the station came to be.
If i remember correctly lad, it was a CFS corporation that held NOL first before it was taken by AFDT . . though my memory is hazy on that so I might be wrong. No matter, didn't stop me getting an office there. I also belive the refining station around Delve was held by an EmpFed corp before it was taken by FIV. That I do remember as it certainly caused a rukuss when they took it.
*shrugs*
Old news now anyways boys, matter is that all the stations in CFS's space are now held by FA and they will always be taken back by FA if taken by a conquering force be it CA, CFS, DSMA or whatever.
There seems to be a bit of a groundswell of late (probably caused by the fact that FA are a little busy atm) of the CFS and independant "little" people (the non-politicians) wanting FA to give them their stations back. Not that I can blame em, they apparently, doing most of the fighting and dying down there.
Ah well, probably end up with CFS doing nuthin' much again and various corporations leaving 'em and joiing other alliances or corporations.
Seems to be cyclical. *chuckles*
Just get your guns lads and take the Stations and hold onto em. Or at least die trying. Nothing wrong with dying. Does you good it does.
Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106
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Gordano
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Posted - 2004.08.16 16:58:00 -
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Just to respond to tickl3r, this is the NOL-M9 station we are discussing here, not 5-6QW7...
At this time, I was the ONLY person in the system, and I captured the station with a joint fleet between Delve Alliance and USC.
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Gordano
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Posted - 2004.08.16 16:58:00 -
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Just to respond to tickl3r, this is the NOL-M9 station we are discussing here, not 5-6QW7...
At this time, I was the ONLY person in the system, and I captured the station with a joint fleet between Delve Alliance and USC.
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Propehcy
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Posted - 2004.08.16 17:14:00 -
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ROFL!! So you've gotten a taste of FA's retarded form of politics eh? HAHAHA.
FA annexed delve, and killed CFS for it. And now hold it to suck off the miners down there .
Hope youre "friends across the board" are good pvp'ers, well, even mediocre-decent will do vs FA.
Now seriously, who the hell are the "Delve Alliance", and those other jokers you mentioned? are they like a CFS reincarnation? Manned my miners, and using mining ships?
Btw, CA podded/killed your ass because that's what they do, you were undoubtedly in a warzone, or there space.
FA will podd you, then falsley justify it, call them the victems/defenders, with full authority to do w/e they want. And YET, they still don't 'officially' claim CFS space. ***** footers, the lot of them.
-Prophecy
** Ex-CA Rep and Ex-CA Member **
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The Prop And Notferr Chronicles
Notferr> Propehcy Owns me! Yet I feel so much Fear in his Evil Presence! Propehcy> Bow Down, You know who your Master is. Notferr> Only Prop is King!! Only Prop!! I Am nothing! Propehcy> I think Stav would be Proud.
Propehcy> I Need a Tool... Where is that Notferr...
[ 2004.09.11 28:63:98 ] Propehcy 2004.09.11 29:05:33.3 combat Your Miner II perfectly strikes Notferr, wrecking for WTFPWNAGE. |
Propehcy
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Posted - 2004.08.16 17:14:00 -
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ROFL!! So you've gotten a taste of FA's retarded form of politics eh? HAHAHA.
FA annexed delve, and killed CFS for it. And now hold it to suck off the miners down there .
Hope youre "friends across the board" are good pvp'ers, well, even mediocre-decent will do vs FA.
Now seriously, who the hell are the "Delve Alliance", and those other jokers you mentioned? are they like a CFS reincarnation? Manned my miners, and using mining ships?
Btw, CA podded/killed your ass because that's what they do, you were undoubtedly in a warzone, or there space.
FA will podd you, then falsley justify it, call them the victems/defenders, with full authority to do w/e they want. And YET, they still don't 'officially' claim CFS space. ***** footers, the lot of them.
-Prophecy
** Ex-CA Rep and Ex-CA Member **
http://www.designegrafix.com/eve/prop5.jpg
Props Chop Shop: Ships, Arms, and Armaments producer for Northern Eve! Located at Torrinos 5 - 6 - Home Guard Assembley.
The Prop And Notferr Chronicles
Notferr> Propehcy Owns me! Yet I feel so much Fear in his Evil Presence! Propehcy> Bow Down, You know who your Master is. Notferr> Only Prop is King!! Only Prop!! I Am nothing! Propehcy> I think Stav would be Proud.
Propehcy> I Need a Tool... Where is that Notferr...
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Chowdown
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Posted - 2004.08.16 17:15:00 -
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Well this interesting. Stay with FA and lose your stations again? Or give CA a chance? Seems that we are both pirate scum . Only CA does not pretend to be your friend.
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Chowdown
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Posted - 2004.08.16 17:15:00 -
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Well this interesting. Stay with FA and lose your stations again? Or give CA a chance? Seems that we are both pirate scum . Only CA does not pretend to be your friend.
New Shinra Kill system, please be patient were still ironing out the finer points!! |
Gordano
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Posted - 2004.08.16 17:16:00 -
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So that it is public, I lost my Armageddon in the line of duty.
Upon undocking, feroci0us locked me and opened fire, I defended myself to the best of my abilities, yet could not hold my own (at 5km, pulse lasers don't do damage), although I had the help of the Royal Tenembaum, we did not manage to eliminate this pirate threat.
Needless to say, the USC WILL be RETAKING and holding the NOL-M9 station, we will defend this station, and will not relinquish the command without some sort of negotiation.
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Gordano
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Posted - 2004.08.16 17:16:00 -
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So that it is public, I lost my Armageddon in the line of duty.
Upon undocking, feroci0us locked me and opened fire, I defended myself to the best of my abilities, yet could not hold my own (at 5km, pulse lasers don't do damage), although I had the help of the Royal Tenembaum, we did not manage to eliminate this pirate threat.
Needless to say, the USC WILL be RETAKING and holding the NOL-M9 station, we will defend this station, and will not relinquish the command without some sort of negotiation.
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Shredder
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Posted - 2004.08.16 17:17:00 -
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CA doesnt even want to own stations in cfs space, we just dont want FA owning them. Raindrop is CLEARLY an FA alt, its the only explanation.
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Shredder
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Posted - 2004.08.16 17:17:00 -
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CA doesnt even want to own stations in cfs space, we just dont want FA owning them. Raindrop is CLEARLY an FA alt, its the only explanation.
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StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2004.08.16 17:20:00 -
[49]
lol STAN
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StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2004.08.16 17:20:00 -
[50]
lol STAN
FACTA NON VERBA |
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.08.16 17:25:00 -
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lol
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.08.16 17:25:00 -
[52]
lol
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Tommy Boy
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Posted - 2004.08.16 17:25:00 -
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lol, refer to post "FA DIPLOMATIC CHANNELS" for another agurgment agaisnt ebil FA, i agree Raindrop is either an alt, or giving them sexual favors. _____________________ Times have to change --------------------- |
Tommy Boy
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Posted - 2004.08.16 17:25:00 -
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lol, refer to post "FA DIPLOMATIC CHANNELS" for another agurgment agaisnt ebil FA, i agree Raindrop is either an alt, or giving them sexual favors. _____________________ Times have to change --------------------- |
Cruz
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Posted - 2004.08.16 17:27:00 -
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Gordano, and now you should better understand the situation that CFS is in at the moment, except we have council members like raindrop not allowing us to do anything, and taking things into his own hands by declaring outright war on CA and dissolving the CFS Defense Force because they tried to defend CFS space. ................. |
Cruz
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Posted - 2004.08.16 17:27:00 -
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Gordano, and now you should better understand the situation that CFS is in at the moment, except we have council members like raindrop not allowing us to do anything, and taking things into his own hands by declaring outright war on CA and dissolving the CFS Defense Force because they tried to defend CFS space. ................. |
Tommy Boy
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Posted - 2004.08.16 17:28:00 -
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I was once told by an FA "rep" that they cant give the stations back, it would be a sign of weakness, lol. So CA owning all up and down (except for the blob in yz) thats not a sign of weakness... _____________________ Times have to change --------------------- |
Tommy Boy
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Posted - 2004.08.16 17:28:00 -
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I was once told by an FA "rep" that they cant give the stations back, it would be a sign of weakness, lol. So CA owning all up and down (except for the blob in yz) thats not a sign of weakness... _____________________ Times have to change --------------------- |
Joel Pilkington
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Posted - 2004.08.16 17:34:00 -
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Edited by: Joel Pilkington on 16/08/2004 17:36:21
Just a few question that nobody seems to consider:
Would an interested FA corporation be willing to reimburse those who took the station from CA for their troubles and losses, offer a substantial reward and other considerations, including station access?
Or would the CA agree to support the people who took the station from them if only to annoy the FA?
Would the FA like to be annoyed?
See, the only options should not be "Gimme or croak".
Joel Pilkington
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Joel Pilkington
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Posted - 2004.08.16 17:34:00 -
[60]
Edited by: Joel Pilkington on 16/08/2004 17:36:21
Just a few question that nobody seems to consider:
Would an interested FA corporation be willing to reimburse those who took the station from CA for their troubles and losses, offer a substantial reward and other considerations, including station access?
Or would the CA agree to support the people who took the station from them if only to annoy the FA?
Would the FA like to be annoyed?
See, the only options should not be "Gimme or croak".
Joel Pilkington
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Woetra
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Posted - 2004.08.16 17:35:00 -
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Take a look at the alliance map, FA claim the region, and by taking the station you have made an act of war exactly the same as CA did.
If the space itself was unclaimed then your "hey we took it first" attitude might wash, but it doesn't.
The only pirate in this thread is the one who started it.
Sig Thief
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Woetra
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Posted - 2004.08.16 17:35:00 -
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Take a look at the alliance map, FA claim the region, and by taking the station you have made an act of war exactly the same as CA did.
If the space itself was unclaimed then your "hey we took it first" attitude might wash, but it doesn't.
The only pirate in this thread is the one who started it.
Sig Thief
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sim2killa
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Posted - 2004.08.16 17:36:00 -
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Weakness?
Dont think the rest of FA thinks very highly of these people anyway..
Quote: Shannon Foraker > wow... busy system Shannon Foraker > anyone killed any Patriarchs here? Kar'Nage > holy how many ppl Kar'Nage > yup StiZum Hilidii > another carebear corp joins Shannon Foraker > eh? StiZum Hilidii > aggressive faction my ass StiZum Hilidii > try passive faction Shannon Foraker > ? Shannon Foraker > joins what? StiZum Hilidii > the system StiZum Hilidii > dont worry carebear StiZum Hilidii > i will leave it to you Shannon Foraker > excuse me? Shannon Foraker > what have I done to get this crap attitude? StiZum Hilidii > muppet
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sim2killa
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Posted - 2004.08.16 17:36:00 -
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Weakness?
Dont think the rest of FA thinks very highly of these people anyway..
Quote: Shannon Foraker > wow... busy system Shannon Foraker > anyone killed any Patriarchs here? Kar'Nage > holy how many ppl Kar'Nage > yup StiZum Hilidii > another carebear corp joins Shannon Foraker > eh? StiZum Hilidii > aggressive faction my ass StiZum Hilidii > try passive faction Shannon Foraker > ? Shannon Foraker > joins what? StiZum Hilidii > the system StiZum Hilidii > dont worry carebear StiZum Hilidii > i will leave it to you Shannon Foraker > excuse me? Shannon Foraker > what have I done to get this crap attitude? StiZum Hilidii > muppet
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Trooper B99
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Posted - 2004.08.16 17:36:00 -
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Well, if some politico's are dead-set against any actions no matter what, maybe they have, say, a mineral selling deal on the side, not known to the little people, or kick-backs.
*chuckles*
Damned double-dealing politico's. Line 'em up against the bulkhead and flachette them, that's what i say.
Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106
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Trooper B99
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Posted - 2004.08.16 17:36:00 -
[66]
Well, if some politico's are dead-set against any actions no matter what, maybe they have, say, a mineral selling deal on the side, not known to the little people, or kick-backs.
*chuckles*
Damned double-dealing politico's. Line 'em up against the bulkhead and flachette them, that's what i say.
Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2004.08.16 17:41:00 -
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woe, that pirate then, is FA
being a former CFS i cannot understand y they r holding back now. if they read their charter what the FA memebrs have done in the last few days (killing locals and insulting/threatening them) is an act of war. gree i wont say anymore cos the flames r just burning up inside
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2004.08.16 17:41:00 -
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woe, that pirate then, is FA
being a former CFS i cannot understand y they r holding back now. if they read their charter what the FA memebrs have done in the last few days (killing locals and insulting/threatening them) is an act of war. gree i wont say anymore cos the flames r just burning up inside
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Kayosoni
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Posted - 2004.08.16 17:48:00 -
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Ferocious is just mad about getting his butt handed to him in fights -----------------------------------
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Kayosoni
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Posted - 2004.08.16 17:48:00 -
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Ferocious is just mad about getting his butt handed to him in fights -----------------------------------
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Woetra
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Posted - 2004.08.16 17:54:00 -
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Originally by: MAXSuicide being a former CFS i cannot understand
you'll be going back to being CFS in a minute
I am glad that you openly admit that you do not understand, before you go on to say completely the opposite of what I say from a viewpoint of extreme and unequivocal understanding.
If you had pretended for a second that you did understand, I would have had to extrapolate you from your ship.
Sig Thief
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Woetra
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Posted - 2004.08.16 17:54:00 -
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Originally by: MAXSuicide being a former CFS i cannot understand
you'll be going back to being CFS in a minute
I am glad that you openly admit that you do not understand, before you go on to say completely the opposite of what I say from a viewpoint of extreme and unequivocal understanding.
If you had pretended for a second that you did understand, I would have had to extrapolate you from your ship.
Sig Thief
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Tommy Boy
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Posted - 2004.08.16 18:09:00 -
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Nice to se corp mates getting along _____________________ Times have to change --------------------- |
Tommy Boy
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Posted - 2004.08.16 18:09:00 -
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Nice to se corp mates getting along _____________________ Times have to change --------------------- |
Gordano
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Posted - 2004.08.16 18:40:00 -
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Apparently, this ship was NOT acting alone, the entire FA alliance has gone pirate (and they don't like the spotlight)!
After waiting in my pod for things to clear up, I decided to get another ship... I was chased 10 jumps to the next station by Xanadu, as well as FinFleet battleships bearing SmartBombs, attempting (usuccessfully I might add) to pod me!
This is an ATTEMPTED MURDER of the Fleet Admiral of the United Systems Commonwealth. I would like to hear what FA high council has to say about this.
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Gordano
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Posted - 2004.08.16 18:40:00 -
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Apparently, this ship was NOT acting alone, the entire FA alliance has gone pirate (and they don't like the spotlight)!
After waiting in my pod for things to clear up, I decided to get another ship... I was chased 10 jumps to the next station by Xanadu, as well as FinFleet battleships bearing SmartBombs, attempting (usuccessfully I might add) to pod me!
This is an ATTEMPTED MURDER of the Fleet Admiral of the United Systems Commonwealth. I would like to hear what FA high council has to say about this.
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IIIIII
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Posted - 2004.08.16 19:01:00 -
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Originally by: Gordano Apparently, this ship was NOT acting alone, the entire FA alliance has gone pirate (and they don't like the spotlight)!
After waiting in my pod for things to clear up, I decided to get another ship... I was chased 10 jumps to the next station by Xanadu, as well as FinFleet battleships bearing SmartBombs, attempting (usuccessfully I might add) to pod me!
This is an ATTEMPTED MURDER of the Fleet Admiral of the United Systems Commonwealth. I would like to hear what FA high council has to say about this.
do you realise that its not automatically 'piracy' because someone shoot you? the stations have been in control of FA for a long time and naturally they consider it there station, and then you show up and refuse to hand back control of it..
try to see it from there point of view, you was refusing to give back the FA station. naturally they will be ****ed about it
i assume the situation perhaps coudl have been handeled better, from both sides, but i dont really see what the 'piracy' thing is about
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IIIIII
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Posted - 2004.08.16 19:01:00 -
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Originally by: Gordano Apparently, this ship was NOT acting alone, the entire FA alliance has gone pirate (and they don't like the spotlight)!
After waiting in my pod for things to clear up, I decided to get another ship... I was chased 10 jumps to the next station by Xanadu, as well as FinFleet battleships bearing SmartBombs, attempting (usuccessfully I might add) to pod me!
This is an ATTEMPTED MURDER of the Fleet Admiral of the United Systems Commonwealth. I would like to hear what FA high council has to say about this.
do you realise that its not automatically 'piracy' because someone shoot you? the stations have been in control of FA for a long time and naturally they consider it there station, and then you show up and refuse to hand back control of it..
try to see it from there point of view, you was refusing to give back the FA station. naturally they will be ****ed about it
i assume the situation perhaps coudl have been handeled better, from both sides, but i dont really see what the 'piracy' thing is about
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Gordano
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Posted - 2004.08.16 19:04:00 -
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They never asked, I never gave.
They started attacking my station,which I liberated from CURSE, without talking to me, and without PROVOCATION.
When their battleship got there, his first target was ME, not the station, another UNPROVOKED attack. So the way I see it these are the actions of pirates.
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Gordano
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Posted - 2004.08.16 19:04:00 -
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They never asked, I never gave.
They started attacking my station,which I liberated from CURSE, without talking to me, and without PROVOCATION.
When their battleship got there, his first target was ME, not the station, another UNPROVOKED attack. So the way I see it these are the actions of pirates.
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BEAutiful
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Posted - 2004.08.16 19:05:00 -
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both sides? how about: FA stop threatening and using and abusing their powers?
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BEAutiful
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Posted - 2004.08.16 19:05:00 -
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both sides? how about: FA stop threatening and using and abusing their powers?
CFS and co have done NOTHING wrong. |
Zeranna Lords
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Posted - 2004.08.16 19:05:00 -
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This post sounds like your suprised by FA actions. The goal is to control space, the goal is to be wealthy and powerful. I am glad people are seeing FA as not so GOOD. Curse is here to liberate those from the FA grasp.
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Zeranna Lords
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Posted - 2004.08.16 19:05:00 -
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This post sounds like your suprised by FA actions. The goal is to control space, the goal is to be wealthy and powerful. I am glad people are seeing FA as not so GOOD. Curse is here to liberate those from the FA grasp.
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Mon Palae
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Posted - 2004.08.16 19:08:00 -
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This started with an Impairor with Civvie Lasers attacking a STATION??
Amazing how mole hills become mountains.
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Mon Palae
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Posted - 2004.08.16 19:08:00 -
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This started with an Impairor with Civvie Lasers attacking a STATION??
Amazing how mole hills become mountains.
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StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2004.08.16 19:09:00 -
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Edited by: StiZum Hilidii on 16/08/2004 19:13:44 will some one shut this noob up he's giving me a headache. right you got a station great nice one, but tbh we claimed them along time ago.
we will continue to take them back if people take them if you take the station we will endever to kill you
curse will kill ya too. is the one constant about alliances they will kill you if you try to take their stuff all alliances follow this.
we leave space free and open but we hold the stations
btw im a peon again so dont take my views as those of the fa
get over it move on if you dont like getting killed shut up in forums your worse than jade atm
STAN
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StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2004.08.16 19:09:00 -
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Edited by: StiZum Hilidii on 16/08/2004 19:13:44 will some one shut this noob up he's giving me a headache. right you got a station great nice one, but tbh we claimed them along time ago.
we will continue to take them back if people take them if you take the station we will endever to kill you
curse will kill ya too. is the one constant about alliances they will kill you if you try to take their stuff all alliances follow this.
we leave space free and open but we hold the stations
btw im a peon again so dont take my views as those of the fa
get over it move on if you dont like getting killed shut up in forums your worse than jade atm
STAN
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Propehcy
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Posted - 2004.08.16 19:12:00 -
[89]
LOL, did you guys win that battle Kayo?
-Prophecy
** Ex-CA Rep and Ex-CA Member **
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Props Chop Shop: Ships, Arms, and Armaments producer for Northern Eve! Located at Torrinos 5 - 6 - Home Guard Assembley.
The Prop And Notferr Chronicles
Notferr> Propehcy Owns me! Yet I feel so much Fear in his Evil Presence! Propehcy> Bow Down, You know who your Master is. Notferr> Only Prop is King!! Only Prop!! I Am nothing! Propehcy> I think Stav would be Proud.
Propehcy> I Need a Tool... Where is that Notferr...
[ 2004.09.11 28:63:98 ] Propehcy 2004.09.11 29:05:33.3 combat Your Miner II perfectly strikes Notferr, wrecking for WTFPWNAGE. |
Propehcy
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Posted - 2004.08.16 19:12:00 -
[90]
LOL, did you guys win that battle Kayo?
-Prophecy
** Ex-CA Rep and Ex-CA Member **
http://www.designegrafix.com/eve/prop5.jpg
Props Chop Shop: Ships, Arms, and Armaments producer for Northern Eve! Located at Torrinos 5 - 6 - Home Guard Assembley.
The Prop And Notferr Chronicles
Notferr> Propehcy Owns me! Yet I feel so much Fear in his Evil Presence! Propehcy> Bow Down, You know who your Master is. Notferr> Only Prop is King!! Only Prop!! I Am nothing! Propehcy> I think Stav would be Proud.
Propehcy> I Need a Tool... Where is that Notferr...
[ 2004.09.11 28:63:98 ] Propehcy 2004.09.11 29:05:33.3 combat Your Miner II perfectly strikes Notferr, wrecking for WTFPWNAGE. |
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crice
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Posted - 2004.08.16 19:13:00 -
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Originally by: Gordano Apparently, this ship was NOT acting alone, the entire FA alliance has gone pirate (and they don't like the spotlight)!
After waiting in my pod for things to clear up, I decided to get another ship... I was chased 10 jumps to the next station by Xanadu, as well as FinFleet battleships bearing SmartBombs, attempting (usuccessfully I might add) to pod me!
This is an ATTEMPTED MURDER of the Fleet Admiral of the United Systems Commonwealth. I would like to hear what FA high council has to say about this.
There is only the high council of XANADU and BIG and the promises of cheap tech II. We (CA) are trying very hard not to target the innocents and people of the region. FA are the target. Maybe BIG and Xanadu will replace all of the other corps ships and mods for fighting for "THEIR" space. We shall see....
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crice
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Posted - 2004.08.16 19:13:00 -
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Originally by: Gordano Apparently, this ship was NOT acting alone, the entire FA alliance has gone pirate (and they don't like the spotlight)!
After waiting in my pod for things to clear up, I decided to get another ship... I was chased 10 jumps to the next station by Xanadu, as well as FinFleet battleships bearing SmartBombs, attempting (usuccessfully I might add) to pod me!
This is an ATTEMPTED MURDER of the Fleet Admiral of the United Systems Commonwealth. I would like to hear what FA high council has to say about this.
There is only the high council of XANADU and BIG and the promises of cheap tech II. We (CA) are trying very hard not to target the innocents and people of the region. FA are the target. Maybe BIG and Xanadu will replace all of the other corps ships and mods for fighting for "THEIR" space. We shall see....
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Mustafa Wilson
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Posted - 2004.08.16 19:13:00 -
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Originally by: Gordano They never asked, I never gave.
They started attacking my station,which I liberated from CURSE, without talking to me, and without PROVOCATION.
When their battleship got there, his first target was ME, not the station, another UNPROVOKED attack. So the way I see it these are the actions of pirates.
All of the risks, all of the labor, and none of the rewards. That's your lot in life under FA, Gordo.
Suck it up or do something about it.
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Mustafa Wilson
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Posted - 2004.08.16 19:13:00 -
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Originally by: Gordano They never asked, I never gave.
They started attacking my station,which I liberated from CURSE, without talking to me, and without PROVOCATION.
When their battleship got there, his first target was ME, not the station, another UNPROVOKED attack. So the way I see it these are the actions of pirates.
All of the risks, all of the labor, and none of the rewards. That's your lot in life under FA, Gordo.
Suck it up or do something about it.
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Propehcy
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Posted - 2004.08.16 19:13:00 -
[95]
LOL, did you guys win that battle Kayo?
-Prophecy
** Ex-CA Rep and Ex-CA Member **
http://www.designegrafix.com/eve/prop5.jpg
Props Chop Shop: Ships, Arms, and Armaments producer for Northern Eve! Located at Torrinos 5 - 6 - Home Guard Assembley.
The Prop And Notferr Chronicles
Notferr> Propehcy Owns me! Yet I feel so much Fear in his Evil Presence! Propehcy> Bow Down, You know who your Master is. Notferr> Only Prop is King!! Only Prop!! I Am nothing! Propehcy> I think Stav would be Proud.
Propehcy> I Need a Tool... Where is that Notferr...
[ 2004.09.11 28:63:98 ] Propehcy 2004.09.11 29:05:33.3 combat Your Miner II perfectly strikes Notferr, wrecking for WTFPWNAGE. |
Propehcy
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Posted - 2004.08.16 19:13:00 -
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LOL, did you guys win that battle Kayo?
-Prophecy
** Ex-CA Rep and Ex-CA Member **
http://www.designegrafix.com/eve/prop5.jpg
Props Chop Shop: Ships, Arms, and Armaments producer for Northern Eve! Located at Torrinos 5 - 6 - Home Guard Assembley.
The Prop And Notferr Chronicles
Notferr> Propehcy Owns me! Yet I feel so much Fear in his Evil Presence! Propehcy> Bow Down, You know who your Master is. Notferr> Only Prop is King!! Only Prop!! I Am nothing! Propehcy> I think Stav would be Proud.
Propehcy> I Need a Tool... Where is that Notferr...
[ 2004.09.11 28:63:98 ] Propehcy 2004.09.11 29:05:33.3 combat Your Miner II perfectly strikes Notferr, wrecking for WTFPWNAGE. |
Pa1nbringr
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Posted - 2004.08.16 19:14:00 -
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fero is well worth more in fa then just another ceo member, hes also has channel admin rights to the fountain public channel, and the private channels ----------------------
Fedaykin Naib > eh this is boring, think im going to go choke one out Pa1nbringr > sick Fedaykin Naib > lol
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Pa1nbringr
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Posted - 2004.08.16 19:14:00 -
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fero is well worth more in fa then just another ceo member, hes also has channel admin rights to the fountain public channel, and the private channels ----------------------
Fedaykin Naib > eh this is boring, think im going to go choke one out Pa1nbringr > sick Fedaykin Naib > lol
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Kayosoni
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Posted - 2004.08.16 19:21:00 -
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Yes we did prop.
http://www.siegedom.com/Files/Eve/Fountain/YZ-LQL/Aug-12-2004/ -----------------------------------
Currently Playing Lineage 2 - Erica Server |
Kayosoni
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Posted - 2004.08.16 19:21:00 -
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Yes we did prop.
http://www.siegedom.com/Files/Eve/Fountain/YZ-LQL/Aug-12-2004/ -----------------------------------
Currently Playing Lineage 2 - Erica Server |
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MasterofIllusion
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Posted - 2004.08.16 19:39:00 -
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Honestly i dont understand why FA does damage it self by being aggresive where there is no need for it. Me and Gordano have fought alone many times trying to hold CA's off Delve. Gordano, i know, i so anti-CA that should FA come and aske dto take station back he would have done just this. All of us down in Delve started by being friends of FA.During the last month CA has conquered the stations down here many many times and everytime FA wasnt here neither to defend nor to retake(and by then they werent busy with the blob in their space). We take your stations back and we give them to u again more than once, just as long as u actually say "We, FA, want station back". Sure CA is right we r being your dogs going around fighting your enemies.Sure u profit from us protecting your back door.Sure we ask for nothing(all FA friendly corps had 5% tax,the same as the CA corps had in Delve). If FA wants to make an army of enemies in Delve(sure we r carebears but fountain has the blob in it) i say it is working on it perfectly and should keep like that. But FA isnt the all mighty power down here.And if FA doesnt want to have every single indipendent pilot as enemies it should at least show some sympathy to those who fight for it and not kill them.If peopel liek ferocious feel trigger happy they have enough enemies already. |
MasterofIllusion
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Posted - 2004.08.16 19:39:00 -
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Honestly i dont understand why FA does damage it self by being aggresive where there is no need for it. Me and Gordano have fought alone many times trying to hold CA's off Delve. Gordano, i know, i so anti-CA that should FA come and aske dto take station back he would have done just this. All of us down in Delve started by being friends of FA.During the last month CA has conquered the stations down here many many times and everytime FA wasnt here neither to defend nor to retake(and by then they werent busy with the blob in their space). We take your stations back and we give them to u again more than once, just as long as u actually say "We, FA, want station back". Sure CA is right we r being your dogs going around fighting your enemies.Sure u profit from us protecting your back door.Sure we ask for nothing(all FA friendly corps had 5% tax,the same as the CA corps had in Delve). If FA wants to make an army of enemies in Delve(sure we r carebears but fountain has the blob in it) i say it is working on it perfectly and should keep like that. But FA isnt the all mighty power down here.And if FA doesnt want to have every single indipendent pilot as enemies it should at least show some sympathy to those who fight for it and not kill them.If peopel liek ferocious feel trigger happy they have enough enemies already. |
sim2killa
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Posted - 2004.08.16 19:39:00 -
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Originally by: Pa1nbringr fero is well worth more in fa then just another ceo member, hes also has channel admin rights to the fountain public channel, and the private channels
Yep hes head marshal.Funny considering his nubness
But then again look at FA "military"
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sim2killa
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Posted - 2004.08.16 19:39:00 -
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Originally by: Pa1nbringr fero is well worth more in fa then just another ceo member, hes also has channel admin rights to the fountain public channel, and the private channels
Yep hes head marshal.Funny considering his nubness
But then again look at FA "military"
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Tommy Boy
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Posted - 2004.08.16 19:39:00 -
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Looked like a well matched #'s battle, maybe thats why Fountain Alliance was too busy to talk to us about the TPAR station... _____________________ Times have to change --------------------- |
Tommy Boy
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Posted - 2004.08.16 19:39:00 -
[106]
Looked like a well matched #'s battle, maybe thats why Fountain Alliance was too busy to talk to us about the TPAR station... _____________________ Times have to change --------------------- |
Tommy Boy
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Posted - 2004.08.16 19:42:00 -
[107]
There is no way Delve alliance, DSMA, what is left of CFS or anything will attack FA. They fear FA soo much just like FA want, but what all you miners don't see IS YOU CANNOT LOSE IN THIS GAME! What are you so freaking afraid of? _____________________ Times have to change --------------------- |
Tommy Boy
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Posted - 2004.08.16 19:42:00 -
[108]
There is no way Delve alliance, DSMA, what is left of CFS or anything will attack FA. They fear FA soo much just like FA want, but what all you miners don't see IS YOU CANNOT LOSE IN THIS GAME! What are you so freaking afraid of? _____________________ Times have to change --------------------- |
BEAutiful
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Posted - 2004.08.16 19:49:00 -
[109]
FA were not the first to have those stations i believe, so once again FA r in the wrong. What FA r doing is blatent acts of piracy, and are the oppressors in this situation.
i wonder what FA would think if it was CFS being the oppressors (owning stations in fountain and charging money and tax and not defending it.)
what would FA do? |
BEAutiful
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Posted - 2004.08.16 19:49:00 -
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FA were not the first to have those stations i believe, so once again FA r in the wrong. What FA r doing is blatent acts of piracy, and are the oppressors in this situation.
i wonder what FA would think if it was CFS being the oppressors (owning stations in fountain and charging money and tax and not defending it.)
what would FA do? |
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Propehcy
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Posted - 2004.08.16 19:51:00 -
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lmao, good stuff kayo! kudos bro! keep the CA love alive.
Master - if you know all this why are you still fighting for them, and letting themp stomp all over you? seems foolish to me..
-Prophecy
** Ex-CA Rep and Ex-CA Member **
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Props Chop Shop: Ships, Arms, and Armaments producer for Northern Eve! Located at Torrinos 5 - 6 - Home Guard Assembley.
The Prop And Notferr Chronicles
Notferr> Propehcy Owns me! Yet I feel so much Fear in his Evil Presence! Propehcy> Bow Down, You know who your Master is. Notferr> Only Prop is King!! Only Prop!! I Am nothing! Propehcy> I think Stav would be Proud.
Propehcy> I Need a Tool... Where is that Notferr...
[ 2004.09.11 28:63:98 ] Propehcy 2004.09.11 29:05:33.3 combat Your Miner II perfectly strikes Notferr, wrecking for WTFPWNAGE. |
Propehcy
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Posted - 2004.08.16 19:51:00 -
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lmao, good stuff kayo! kudos bro! keep the CA love alive.
Master - if you know all this why are you still fighting for them, and letting themp stomp all over you? seems foolish to me..
-Prophecy
** Ex-CA Rep and Ex-CA Member **
http://www.designegrafix.com/eve/prop5.jpg
Props Chop Shop: Ships, Arms, and Armaments producer for Northern Eve! Located at Torrinos 5 - 6 - Home Guard Assembley.
The Prop And Notferr Chronicles
Notferr> Propehcy Owns me! Yet I feel so much Fear in his Evil Presence! Propehcy> Bow Down, You know who your Master is. Notferr> Only Prop is King!! Only Prop!! I Am nothing! Propehcy> I think Stav would be Proud.
Propehcy> I Need a Tool... Where is that Notferr...
[ 2004.09.11 28:63:98 ] Propehcy 2004.09.11 29:05:33.3 combat Your Miner II perfectly strikes Notferr, wrecking for WTFPWNAGE. |
Damajink
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Posted - 2004.08.16 19:52:00 -
[113]
Originally by: IIIIII
do you realise that its not automatically 'piracy' because someone shoot you?
Hmm, that's what CA does, but apparently we're all filthy low-life pirate scum
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Damajink
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Posted - 2004.08.16 19:52:00 -
[114]
Originally by: IIIIII
do you realise that its not automatically 'piracy' because someone shoot you?
Hmm, that's what CA does, but apparently we're all filthy low-life pirate scum
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Tommy Boy
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Posted - 2004.08.16 19:55:00 -
[115]
Edited by: Tommy Boy on 16/08/2004 20:00:25 Well if CFS was to be the bigger alliance than FA i dont think FA would like it too much... However FA *isn't* acting Rational and most certainly not thinking from our point of view... 5-6 Was first Genco's station. TPAR was first in the hands of C4 i believe dont quote me on the TPAR one. _____________________ Times have to change --------------------- |
Tommy Boy
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Posted - 2004.08.16 19:55:00 -
[116]
Edited by: Tommy Boy on 16/08/2004 20:00:25 Well if CFS was to be the bigger alliance than FA i dont think FA would like it too much... However FA *isn't* acting Rational and most certainly not thinking from our point of view... 5-6 Was first Genco's station. TPAR was first in the hands of C4 i believe dont quote me on the TPAR one. _____________________ Times have to change --------------------- |
BEAutiful
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Posted - 2004.08.16 20:00:00 -
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o! and who were Genco with, o yes the Emp fed, friends of CFS and a local etc etc.
that doesnt sound like 'FA' does it mr xanadu man |
BEAutiful
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Posted - 2004.08.16 20:00:00 -
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o! and who were Genco with, o yes the Emp fed, friends of CFS and a local etc etc.
that doesnt sound like 'FA' does it mr xanadu man |
Tommy Boy
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Posted - 2004.08.16 20:48:00 -
[119]
Edited by: Tommy Boy on 17/08/2004 18:56:27 ACK MaJOR mistake,, i was responding to the wrond post!! Sorry FA for the confusion...stupid dislexic mind! _____________________ Times have to change --------------------- |
Tommy Boy
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Posted - 2004.08.16 20:48:00 -
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Edited by: Tommy Boy on 17/08/2004 18:56:27 ACK MaJOR mistake,, i was responding to the wrond post!! Sorry FA for the confusion...stupid dislexic mind! _____________________ Times have to change --------------------- |
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BEAutiful
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Posted - 2004.08.16 20:50:00 -
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what a suprise, ur FA...
CFS space is NOT FA space...so get facts right.
nobodys hurting ur members, people just want their stations back. |
BEAutiful
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Posted - 2004.08.16 20:50:00 -
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what a suprise, ur FA...
CFS space is NOT FA space...so get facts right.
nobodys hurting ur members, people just want their stations back. |
Mustafa Wilson
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Posted - 2004.08.16 21:13:00 -
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Originally by: Sha'blach Edited by: Sha'blach on 16/08/2004 20:42:11 Just for posting this, trying to cause a disturbance, you're now on my KOS list. You'll have a large bounty shortly. Enjoy...
Ah, so you're not only expected to do all the work for FA while they get all the rewards, you have to keep your mouth shut, too ...
CFS = Coalition of Fountain's Slaves.
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Mustafa Wilson
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Posted - 2004.08.16 21:13:00 -
[124]
Originally by: Sha'blach Edited by: Sha'blach on 16/08/2004 20:42:11 Just for posting this, trying to cause a disturbance, you're now on my KOS list. You'll have a large bounty shortly. Enjoy...
Ah, so you're not only expected to do all the work for FA while they get all the rewards, you have to keep your mouth shut, too ...
CFS = Coalition of Fountain's Slaves.
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Cruz
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Posted - 2004.08.16 21:22:00 -
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Originally by: Sha'blach Edited by: Sha'blach on 16/08/2004 20:42:11 Just for posting this, trying to cause a disturbance, you're now on my KOS list. You'll have a large bounty shortly.
ONOS!! Tommy with his -10 sec status is going to have a LAAARGE bounty on his head!!! watch out Tommy Boy!!! FA is after you! If only they could get out of FA space. ................. |
Cruz
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Posted - 2004.08.16 21:22:00 -
[126]
Originally by: Sha'blach Edited by: Sha'blach on 16/08/2004 20:42:11 Just for posting this, trying to cause a disturbance, you're now on my KOS list. You'll have a large bounty shortly.
ONOS!! Tommy with his -10 sec status is going to have a LAAARGE bounty on his head!!! watch out Tommy Boy!!! FA is after you! If only they could get out of FA space. ................. |
Tubby
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Posted - 2004.08.16 21:22:00 -
[127]
heh this thread is just so funny to read, i mean what a load of rubbish.
FA that CA this
people dont seem to rilise, FA is much more powerfull than CFS and that other alliance i havent heard of. If they wanted they could of kicked them all out of quirious, delve and period basics a long time ago. But no, they aloud them to remain.
oh also who is it that repetedly keeps on attacking CFS it wouldent be CA would it. lets face the facts, if these regions where naxt to CA space, CA would of most likely killed off CFS and added there space ot the 7 or so regions that they now control....
but as usual the masses of CA spam the bords and try to make there oponent look bad.
anyone who realy matters knows the score anyway, and what goes on.... most people dont even care... would be funny if CFS helped / joined with CA on this, i know i'd laugh, u say FA tries to manipulate people, what are u doing right now on this thread.... |
Tubby
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Posted - 2004.08.16 21:22:00 -
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heh this thread is just so funny to read, i mean what a load of rubbish.
FA that CA this
people dont seem to rilise, FA is much more powerfull than CFS and that other alliance i havent heard of. If they wanted they could of kicked them all out of quirious, delve and period basics a long time ago. But no, they aloud them to remain.
oh also who is it that repetedly keeps on attacking CFS it wouldent be CA would it. lets face the facts, if these regions where naxt to CA space, CA would of most likely killed off CFS and added there space ot the 7 or so regions that they now control....
but as usual the masses of CA spam the bords and try to make there oponent look bad.
anyone who realy matters knows the score anyway, and what goes on.... most people dont even care... would be funny if CFS helped / joined with CA on this, i know i'd laugh, u say FA tries to manipulate people, what are u doing right now on this thread.... |
Masochist
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Posted - 2004.08.16 21:25:00 -
[129]
Obviously if CFS *could* hold their space they would by now. I think FA is playing with CFS like the puppets they are. Wish I had thought of it first.
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Masochist
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Posted - 2004.08.16 21:25:00 -
[130]
Obviously if CFS *could* hold their space they would by now. I think FA is playing with CFS like the puppets they are. Wish I had thought of it first.
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Tyrion Nydaerin
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Posted - 2004.08.16 21:55:00 -
[131]
Oh you have got to be kidding me..
Oh and...
Quote: If i remember correctly lad, it was a CFS corporation that held NOL first before it was taken by AFDT . . though my memory is hazy on that so I might be wrong.
Well, I dont recall Serpentis Corp. being a part of CFS when I took the station back when it first appeared
-=Fountain Alliance High Council Member=- |
Tyrion Nydaerin
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Posted - 2004.08.16 21:55:00 -
[132]
Oh you have got to be kidding me..
Oh and...
Quote: If i remember correctly lad, it was a CFS corporation that held NOL first before it was taken by AFDT . . though my memory is hazy on that so I might be wrong.
Well, I dont recall Serpentis Corp. being a part of CFS when I took the station back when it first appeared
-=Fountain Alliance High Council Member=- |
Sha'blach
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Posted - 2004.08.16 21:56:00 -
[133]
Edited by: Sha'blach on 16/08/2004 21:57:57
Originally by: Cruz
Originally by: Sha'blach Edited by: Sha'blach on 16/08/2004 20:42:11 Just for posting this, trying to cause a disturbance, you're now on my KOS list. You'll have a large bounty shortly.
ONOS!! Tommy with his -10 sec status is going to have a LAAARGE bounty on his head!!! watch out Tommy Boy!!! FA is after you! If only they could get out of FA space.
Uhm, I left FA space yesturday and went to empire, came back and didnt have a problem. So it's quite possible we can leave when we choose to. Most of us are just staying the fight. Me on the other hand, I needed a few peices of equipment :)
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Sha'blach
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Posted - 2004.08.16 21:56:00 -
[134]
Edited by: Sha'blach on 16/08/2004 21:57:57
Originally by: Cruz
Originally by: Sha'blach Edited by: Sha'blach on 16/08/2004 20:42:11 Just for posting this, trying to cause a disturbance, you're now on my KOS list. You'll have a large bounty shortly.
ONOS!! Tommy with his -10 sec status is going to have a LAAARGE bounty on his head!!! watch out Tommy Boy!!! FA is after you! If only they could get out of FA space.
Uhm, I left FA space yesturday and went to empire, came back and didnt have a problem. So it's quite possible we can leave when we choose to. Most of us are just staying the fight. Me on the other hand, I needed a few peices of equipment :)
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Kelly O'Connor
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Posted - 2004.08.16 22:13:00 -
[135]
FA do NOT have the power to control delve, nevermind delve + querious + PB.
However, with CFS/DSMA/etc's current stance, they need control it in name only to reap the benefits.
I've heard from several corps that the only FA ships seen regularly are newbie ships to recapture the stations.
I flew the d4ku-> lql corridor plenty of times, as well as the a-1con-> LBGI route, neither are ever adequately defended, and this is but ONE region.
The only reliable tactic FA can come up with is to blob LQL, and generally it works.
<3 red
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Kelly O'Connor
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Posted - 2004.08.16 22:13:00 -
[136]
FA do NOT have the power to control delve, nevermind delve + querious + PB.
However, with CFS/DSMA/etc's current stance, they need control it in name only to reap the benefits.
I've heard from several corps that the only FA ships seen regularly are newbie ships to recapture the stations.
I flew the d4ku-> lql corridor plenty of times, as well as the a-1con-> LBGI route, neither are ever adequately defended, and this is but ONE region.
The only reliable tactic FA can come up with is to blob LQL, and generally it works.
<3 red
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Damajink
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Posted - 2004.08.16 22:48:00 -
[137]
Originally by: Tommy Boy Edited by: Tommy Boy on 16/08/2004 20:00:25 Well if CFS was to be the bigger alliance than FA i dont think FA would like it too much... However FA *isn't* acting Rational and most certainly not thinking from our point of view... 5-6 Was first Genco's station. TPAR was first in the hands of C4 i believe dont quote me on the TPAR one.
I think TPAR was CFS' station first....I seem to recall BSC heading down there to help Zoners (then a part of CFS) to defend the station against m0o and friends a couple of days after the stations first came in.
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Damajink
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Posted - 2004.08.16 22:48:00 -
[138]
Originally by: Tommy Boy Edited by: Tommy Boy on 16/08/2004 20:00:25 Well if CFS was to be the bigger alliance than FA i dont think FA would like it too much... However FA *isn't* acting Rational and most certainly not thinking from our point of view... 5-6 Was first Genco's station. TPAR was first in the hands of C4 i believe dont quote me on the TPAR one.
I think TPAR was CFS' station first....I seem to recall BSC heading down there to help Zoners (then a part of CFS) to defend the station against m0o and friends a couple of days after the stations first came in.
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XProfessorX
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Posted - 2004.08.16 22:51:00 -
[139]
Originally by: Woetra Take a look at the alliance map, FA claim the region, and by taking the station you have made an act of war exactly the same as CA did.
If the space itself was unclaimed then your "hey we took it first" attitude might wash, but it doesn't.
The only pirate in this thread is the one who started it.
I suggest that you check your information.. Ratified March 2-04 By the CFS Senate
1. All FA controlled stations in Delve to remain FA controlled. 2. FA agrees to keep the Delve Region open - free use for all. Addendum 1: In case of warfare against the FA, the Delve region (or parts of) could be temporarilly closed of except for specifically allowed parties (CFS would be an obvious such party) Addendum 2: The Delve region is not considered 'FA Space' 3. CFS recognizes FA rights to utilize all and any resources and facilities of the sourounding regions (specifically Period Basis and Querious) 4. The CFS does not ask for reciprocal access to FA space. 5. FA recognizes the CFS lays claim to the three disputed regions. 6. Each side to designate ambassadors. 7. In case of dispute each agrees to wait 48 hours to allow ambassadors to reach a settlement before ANY other action is taken.
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XProfessorX
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Posted - 2004.08.16 22:51:00 -
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Originally by: Woetra Take a look at the alliance map, FA claim the region, and by taking the station you have made an act of war exactly the same as CA did.
If the space itself was unclaimed then your "hey we took it first" attitude might wash, but it doesn't.
The only pirate in this thread is the one who started it.
I suggest that you check your information.. Ratified March 2-04 By the CFS Senate
1. All FA controlled stations in Delve to remain FA controlled. 2. FA agrees to keep the Delve Region open - free use for all. Addendum 1: In case of warfare against the FA, the Delve region (or parts of) could be temporarilly closed of except for specifically allowed parties (CFS would be an obvious such party) Addendum 2: The Delve region is not considered 'FA Space' 3. CFS recognizes FA rights to utilize all and any resources and facilities of the sourounding regions (specifically Period Basis and Querious) 4. The CFS does not ask for reciprocal access to FA space. 5. FA recognizes the CFS lays claim to the three disputed regions. 6. Each side to designate ambassadors. 7. In case of dispute each agrees to wait 48 hours to allow ambassadors to reach a settlement before ANY other action is taken.
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Woetra
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Posted - 2004.08.16 23:07:00 -
[141]
Originally by: XProfessorX
Originally by: Woetra Take a look at the alliance map, FA claim the region, and by taking the station you have made an act of war exactly the same as CA did.
If the space itself was unclaimed then your "hey we took it first" attitude might wash, but it doesn't.
The only pirate in this thread is the one who started it.
I suggest that you check your information.. Ratified March 2-04 By the CFS Senate
1. All FA controlled stations in Delve to remain FA controlled. 2. FA agrees to keep the Delve Region open - free use for all. Addendum 1: In case of warfare against the FA, the Delve region (or parts of) could be temporarilly closed of except for specifically allowed parties (CFS would be an obvious such party) Addendum 2: The Delve region is not considered 'FA Space' 3. CFS recognizes FA rights to utilize all and any resources and facilities of the sourounding regions (specifically Period Basis and Querious) 4. The CFS does not ask for reciprocal access to FA space. 5. FA recognizes the CFS lays claim to the three disputed regions. 6. Each side to designate ambassadors. 7. In case of dispute each agrees to wait 48 hours to allow ambassadors to reach a settlement before ANY other action is taken.
interesting, didn't know that. what it amounts to though is that FA own the stations.... kinda proves my point anyway huh?
Sig Thief
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Woetra
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Posted - 2004.08.16 23:07:00 -
[142]
Originally by: XProfessorX
Originally by: Woetra Take a look at the alliance map, FA claim the region, and by taking the station you have made an act of war exactly the same as CA did.
If the space itself was unclaimed then your "hey we took it first" attitude might wash, but it doesn't.
The only pirate in this thread is the one who started it.
I suggest that you check your information.. Ratified March 2-04 By the CFS Senate
1. All FA controlled stations in Delve to remain FA controlled. 2. FA agrees to keep the Delve Region open - free use for all. Addendum 1: In case of warfare against the FA, the Delve region (or parts of) could be temporarilly closed of except for specifically allowed parties (CFS would be an obvious such party) Addendum 2: The Delve region is not considered 'FA Space' 3. CFS recognizes FA rights to utilize all and any resources and facilities of the sourounding regions (specifically Period Basis and Querious) 4. The CFS does not ask for reciprocal access to FA space. 5. FA recognizes the CFS lays claim to the three disputed regions. 6. Each side to designate ambassadors. 7. In case of dispute each agrees to wait 48 hours to allow ambassadors to reach a settlement before ANY other action is taken.
interesting, didn't know that. what it amounts to though is that FA own the stations.... kinda proves my point anyway huh?
Sig Thief
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Mark A
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Posted - 2004.08.16 23:16:00 -
[143]
Edited by: Mark A on 16/08/2004 23:18:25
Originally by: StiZum Hilidii Edited by: StiZum Hilidii on 16/08/2004 19:13:44 will some one shut this noob up he's giving me a headache. right you got a station great nice one, but tbh we claimed them along time ago.
we will continue to take them back if people take them if you take the station we will endever to kill you
curse will kill ya too. is the one constant about alliances they will kill you if you try to take their stuff all alliances follow this.
we leave space free and open but we hold the stations
btw im a peon again so dont take my views as those of the fa
get over it move on if you dont like getting killed shut up in forums your worse than jade atm
It's nice to see FA clarifying their position on CFS and the other inhabitants of the region. Translation: "Keep quiet and do our bidding until we get round to annexing your region permanently, or we shoot you".
CA on the other hand has no interest in Delve/Querious/Period Basis other than kicking FA out. CFS etc. can have all the stations back when we're done.
It's amazing to me that CFS pilots would align themselves with FA here - wake up FFS. FA are not your friends, so why fight for them? CA aren't either, but at least we don't aspire to ruling you and gradually taking over your region. ____________________________________
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Mark A
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Posted - 2004.08.16 23:16:00 -
[144]
Edited by: Mark A on 16/08/2004 23:18:25
Originally by: StiZum Hilidii Edited by: StiZum Hilidii on 16/08/2004 19:13:44 will some one shut this noob up he's giving me a headache. right you got a station great nice one, but tbh we claimed them along time ago.
we will continue to take them back if people take them if you take the station we will endever to kill you
curse will kill ya too. is the one constant about alliances they will kill you if you try to take their stuff all alliances follow this.
we leave space free and open but we hold the stations
btw im a peon again so dont take my views as those of the fa
get over it move on if you dont like getting killed shut up in forums your worse than jade atm
It's nice to see FA clarifying their position on CFS and the other inhabitants of the region. Translation: "Keep quiet and do our bidding until we get round to annexing your region permanently, or we shoot you".
CA on the other hand has no interest in Delve/Querious/Period Basis other than kicking FA out. CFS etc. can have all the stations back when we're done.
It's amazing to me that CFS pilots would align themselves with FA here - wake up FFS. FA are not your friends, so why fight for them? CA aren't either, but at least we don't aspire to ruling you and gradually taking over your region. ____________________________________
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.08.16 23:21:00 -
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You know, if I were you, (which I'm not) and I wanted a station in an area that an alliance had previously held control of said station (which I don't) I would probably contact said alliance and work something out, (which you didn't) before I took said station and just prayed to the eve gods that it would work out. (which you seem to have done)
hint- saying you represent an alliance that you just happened to have founded and intend to base it out of a station you just took would imply to me that you are certainly not a force to be reckoned with, and I would probably just wait till a better time to come mop the floor with you.
p.s. Welcome to 0.0 Guess what, everytime someone does something you don't like or agree with, you can't call it piracy. Well, you can..... but do you really wanna be like the PA? CA wasn't pirating fa when they took the station initially. It was simply a pawn in a bigger game then you are in at the moment.
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.08.16 23:21:00 -
[146]
You know, if I were you, (which I'm not) and I wanted a station in an area that an alliance had previously held control of said station (which I don't) I would probably contact said alliance and work something out, (which you didn't) before I took said station and just prayed to the eve gods that it would work out. (which you seem to have done)
hint- saying you represent an alliance that you just happened to have founded and intend to base it out of a station you just took would imply to me that you are certainly not a force to be reckoned with, and I would probably just wait till a better time to come mop the floor with you.
p.s. Welcome to 0.0 Guess what, everytime someone does something you don't like or agree with, you can't call it piracy. Well, you can..... but do you really wanna be like the PA? CA wasn't pirating fa when they took the station initially. It was simply a pawn in a bigger game then you are in at the moment.
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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Double G
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Posted - 2004.08.16 23:29:00 -
[147]
Originally by: Tubby heh this thread is just so funny to read, i mean what a load of rubbish.
FA that CA this
people dont seem to rilise, FA is much more powerfull than CFS and that other alliance i havent heard of. If they wanted they could of kicked them all out of quirious, delve and period basics a long time ago. But no, they aloud them to remain.
oh also who is it that repetedly keeps on attacking CFS it wouldent be CA would it. lets face the facts, if these regions where naxt to CA space, CA would of most likely killed off CFS and added there space ot the 7 or so regions that they now control....
but as usual the masses of CA spam the bords and try to make there oponent look bad.
anyone who realy matters knows the score anyway, and what goes on.... most people dont even care... would be funny if CFS helped / joined with CA on this, i know i'd laugh, u say FA tries to manipulate people, what are u doing right now on this thread....
Could it be!?!? LOOK LOOK.. It's a XANADU ALT!!!
Quote: Klio ISD Posted - 2004.10.02 17:43:00 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Well moderatly old thread got bumped, let it sit a while to see if it was going anywhere... it isn't so im gonna put this old dog down
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Double G
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Posted - 2004.08.16 23:29:00 -
[148]
Originally by: Tubby heh this thread is just so funny to read, i mean what a load of rubbish.
FA that CA this
people dont seem to rilise, FA is much more powerfull than CFS and that other alliance i havent heard of. If they wanted they could of kicked them all out of quirious, delve and period basics a long time ago. But no, they aloud them to remain.
oh also who is it that repetedly keeps on attacking CFS it wouldent be CA would it. lets face the facts, if these regions where naxt to CA space, CA would of most likely killed off CFS and added there space ot the 7 or so regions that they now control....
but as usual the masses of CA spam the bords and try to make there oponent look bad.
anyone who realy matters knows the score anyway, and what goes on.... most people dont even care... would be funny if CFS helped / joined with CA on this, i know i'd laugh, u say FA tries to manipulate people, what are u doing right now on this thread....
Could it be!?!? LOOK LOOK.. It's a XANADU ALT!!!
Quote: Klio ISD Posted - 2004.10.02 17:43:00 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Well moderatly old thread got bumped, let it sit a while to see if it was going anywhere... it isn't so im gonna put this old dog down
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Double G
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Posted - 2004.08.16 23:31:00 -
[149]
Originally by: XProfessorX
Originally by: Woetra Take a look at the alliance map, FA claim the region, and by taking the station you have made an act of war exactly the same as CA did.
If the space itself was unclaimed then your "hey we took it first" attitude might wash, but it doesn't.
The only pirate in this thread is the one who started it.
I suggest that you check your information.. Ratified March 2-04 By the CFS Senate
1. All FA controlled stations in Delve to remain FA controlled. 2. FA agrees to keep the Delve Region open - free use for all. Addendum 1: In case of warfare against the FA, the Delve region (or parts of) could be temporarilly closed of except for specifically allowed parties (CFS would be an obvious such party) Addendum 2: The Delve region is not considered 'FA Space' 3. CFS recognizes FA rights to utilize all and any resources and facilities of the sourounding regions (specifically Period Basis and Querious) 4. The CFS does not ask for reciprocal access to FA space. 5. FA recognizes the CFS lays claim to the three disputed regions. 6. Each side to designate ambassadors. 7. In case of dispute each agrees to wait 48 hours to allow ambassadors to reach a settlement before ANY other action is taken.
LOOK LOOK another Xanadu FA alt!!!!
If you always have to post with an alt, because your controlled.... Don't you think that is a problem? At least in CA we have Freedom of Speech.
Quote: Klio ISD Posted - 2004.10.02 17:43:00 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Well moderatly old thread got bumped, let it sit a while to see if it was going anywhere... it isn't so im gonna put this old dog down
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Double G
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Posted - 2004.08.16 23:31:00 -
[150]
Originally by: XProfessorX
Originally by: Woetra Take a look at the alliance map, FA claim the region, and by taking the station you have made an act of war exactly the same as CA did.
If the space itself was unclaimed then your "hey we took it first" attitude might wash, but it doesn't.
The only pirate in this thread is the one who started it.
I suggest that you check your information.. Ratified March 2-04 By the CFS Senate
1. All FA controlled stations in Delve to remain FA controlled. 2. FA agrees to keep the Delve Region open - free use for all. Addendum 1: In case of warfare against the FA, the Delve region (or parts of) could be temporarilly closed of except for specifically allowed parties (CFS would be an obvious such party) Addendum 2: The Delve region is not considered 'FA Space' 3. CFS recognizes FA rights to utilize all and any resources and facilities of the sourounding regions (specifically Period Basis and Querious) 4. The CFS does not ask for reciprocal access to FA space. 5. FA recognizes the CFS lays claim to the three disputed regions. 6. Each side to designate ambassadors. 7. In case of dispute each agrees to wait 48 hours to allow ambassadors to reach a settlement before ANY other action is taken.
LOOK LOOK another Xanadu FA alt!!!!
If you always have to post with an alt, because your controlled.... Don't you think that is a problem? At least in CA we have Freedom of Speech.
Quote: Klio ISD Posted - 2004.10.02 17:43:00 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Well moderatly old thread got bumped, let it sit a while to see if it was going anywhere... it isn't so im gonna put this old dog down
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StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2004.08.16 23:45:00 -
[151]
tbh we dont post much purely cos you guys talk so much crap we just feel it would be easier to let you make yourselfs looks stupid.
99% of the time it works 1% of the time you get saved by jade STAN
FACTA NON VERBA |
StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2004.08.16 23:45:00 -
[152]
tbh we dont post much purely cos you guys talk so much crap we just feel it would be easier to let you make yourselfs looks stupid.
99% of the time it works 1% of the time you get saved by jade STAN
FACTA NON VERBA |
Sleazy Cabbie
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Posted - 2004.08.16 23:52:00 -
[153]
One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. There ARE no good guys in this game or in real life, just people wearing different flags, who want the biggest chunk of land or the biggest oilfield.
CA : "Do this or else."
FA : "Do this or else."
Get used to it, this is how it works.
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Sleazy Cabbie
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Posted - 2004.08.16 23:52:00 -
[154]
One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. There ARE no good guys in this game or in real life, just people wearing different flags, who want the biggest chunk of land or the biggest oilfield.
CA : "Do this or else."
FA : "Do this or else."
Get used to it, this is how it works.
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Elgin Marble
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Posted - 2004.08.16 23:59:00 -
[155]
LOL Black Avatar did the same again tonight.
Ascendancy (ex-CFS) liberated the station in 3bk off Curse, and then Black Avatar turned up in a fleet (first time in weeks) and attacked the station and took it back!
Unless BA and IT lowers its docking fees there'll be revolt i tell ya yarrrrr |
Elgin Marble
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Posted - 2004.08.16 23:59:00 -
[156]
LOL Black Avatar did the same again tonight.
Ascendancy (ex-CFS) liberated the station in 3bk off Curse, and then Black Avatar turned up in a fleet (first time in weeks) and attacked the station and took it back!
Unless BA and IT lowers its docking fees there'll be revolt i tell ya yarrrrr |
Shirei
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Posted - 2004.08.17 00:09:00 -
[157]
Edited by: Shirei on 17/08/2004 00:11:40
Originally by: XProfessorX Ratified March 2-04 By the CFS Senate
1. All FA controlled stations in Delve to remain FA controlled.
Looks like whoever from FA negotiated this was bad at writing treaties. Quite clearly this clause only applies to FA controlled stations. If FA makes no effort to defend them from CA or whoever else uninvolved in the treaty wants to take them, they are clearly not FA controlled anymore and the treaty doesn't apply to them.
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Shirei
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Posted - 2004.08.17 00:09:00 -
[158]
Edited by: Shirei on 17/08/2004 00:11:40
Originally by: XProfessorX Ratified March 2-04 By the CFS Senate
1. All FA controlled stations in Delve to remain FA controlled.
Looks like whoever from FA negotiated this was bad at writing treaties. Quite clearly this clause only applies to FA controlled stations. If FA makes no effort to defend them from CA or whoever else uninvolved in the treaty wants to take them, they are clearly not FA controlled anymore and the treaty doesn't apply to them.
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StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2004.08.17 00:23:00 -
[159]
Originally by: Double G
Originally by: Tubby heh this thread is just so funny to read, i mean what a load of rubbish.
FA that CA this
people dont seem to rilise, FA is much more powerfull than CFS and that other alliance i havent heard of. If they wanted they could of kicked them all out of quirious, delve and period basics a long time ago. But no, they aloud them to remain.
oh also who is it that repetedly keeps on attacking CFS it wouldent be CA would it. lets face the facts, if these regions where naxt to CA space, CA would of most likely killed off CFS and added there space ot the 7 or so regions that they now control....
but as usual the masses of CA spam the bords and try to make there oponent look bad.
anyone who realy matters knows the score anyway, and what goes on.... most people dont even care... would be funny if CFS helped / joined with CA on this, i know i'd laugh, u say FA tries to manipulate people, what are u doing right now on this thread....
Could it be!?!? LOOK LOOK.. It's a XANADU ALT!!!
^hes been xan for a long time...not an alt mate ...take some time and lookk him up in game STAN
FACTA NON VERBA |
StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2004.08.17 00:23:00 -
[160]
Originally by: Double G
Originally by: Tubby heh this thread is just so funny to read, i mean what a load of rubbish.
FA that CA this
people dont seem to rilise, FA is much more powerfull than CFS and that other alliance i havent heard of. If they wanted they could of kicked them all out of quirious, delve and period basics a long time ago. But no, they aloud them to remain.
oh also who is it that repetedly keeps on attacking CFS it wouldent be CA would it. lets face the facts, if these regions where naxt to CA space, CA would of most likely killed off CFS and added there space ot the 7 or so regions that they now control....
but as usual the masses of CA spam the bords and try to make there oponent look bad.
anyone who realy matters knows the score anyway, and what goes on.... most people dont even care... would be funny if CFS helped / joined with CA on this, i know i'd laugh, u say FA tries to manipulate people, what are u doing right now on this thread....
Could it be!?!? LOOK LOOK.. It's a XANADU ALT!!!
^hes been xan for a long time...not an alt mate ...take some time and lookk him up in game STAN
FACTA NON VERBA |
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Ukiah
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Posted - 2004.08.17 01:15:00 -
[161]
Originally by: Elgin Marble LOL Black Avatar did the same again tonight.
Ascendancy (ex-CFS) liberated the station in 3bk off Curse, and then Black Avatar turned up in a fleet (first time in weeks) and attacked the station and took it back!
Unless BA and IT lowers its docking fees there'll be revolt i tell ya yarrrrr
Elgin Marble Member of Republic Military School for 14 days
Grow a pair and post with your main and we can discuss docking fees. Of which, the docking fees in 9CG are QUITE fair. There are any number of corps who don't pay a single isk to dock there. These corps have demonstrated a consistent willingness and eagerness to both defend the region, but work cooperatively in stabilizing the area (as much as is possible under the circumstances).
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Ukiah
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Posted - 2004.08.17 01:15:00 -
[162]
Originally by: Elgin Marble LOL Black Avatar did the same again tonight.
Ascendancy (ex-CFS) liberated the station in 3bk off Curse, and then Black Avatar turned up in a fleet (first time in weeks) and attacked the station and took it back!
Unless BA and IT lowers its docking fees there'll be revolt i tell ya yarrrrr
Elgin Marble Member of Republic Military School for 14 days
Grow a pair and post with your main and we can discuss docking fees. Of which, the docking fees in 9CG are QUITE fair. There are any number of corps who don't pay a single isk to dock there. These corps have demonstrated a consistent willingness and eagerness to both defend the region, but work cooperatively in stabilizing the area (as much as is possible under the circumstances).
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Tommy Boy
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Posted - 2004.08.17 05:47:00 -
[163]
Edited by: Tommy Boy on 17/08/2004 06:17:15 No more bickering- _____________________ Times have to change --------------------- |
Tommy Boy
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Posted - 2004.08.17 05:47:00 -
[164]
Edited by: Tommy Boy on 17/08/2004 06:17:15 No more bickering- _____________________ Times have to change --------------------- |
Armanub
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Posted - 2004.08.17 07:08:00 -
[165]
Originally by: Woetra
Originally by: XProfessorX
Originally by: Woetra Take a look at the alliance map, FA claim the region, and by taking the station you have made an act of war exactly the same as CA did.
If the space itself was unclaimed then your "hey we took it first" attitude might wash, but it doesn't.
The only pirate in this thread is the one who started it.
I suggest that you check your information.. Ratified March 2-04 By the CFS Senate
1. All FA controlled stations in Delve to remain FA controlled. 2. FA agrees to keep the Delve Region open - free use for all. Addendum 1: In case of warfare against the FA, the Delve region (or parts of) could be temporarilly closed of except for specifically allowed parties (CFS would be an obvious such party) Addendum 2: The Delve region is not considered 'FA Space' 3. CFS recognizes FA rights to utilize all and any resources and facilities of the sourounding regions (specifically Period Basis and Querious) 4. The CFS does not ask for reciprocal access to FA space. 5. FA recognizes the CFS lays claim to the three disputed regions. 6. Each side to designate ambassadors. 7. In case of dispute each agrees to wait 48 hours to allow ambassadors to reach a settlement before ANY other action is taken.
interesting, didn't know that. what it amounts to though is that FA own the stations.... kinda proves my point anyway huh?
No, quite frankly the clause that is of most importance in this discussion is 7.
7. In case of dispute each agrees to wait 48 hours to allow ambassadors to reach a settlement before ANY other action is taken.
I dont see any negotiations, I see a straight out killing of a supposed 'ally'. Therefore FA have broken the treaty, no?
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Armanub
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Posted - 2004.08.17 07:08:00 -
[166]
Originally by: Woetra
Originally by: XProfessorX
Originally by: Woetra Take a look at the alliance map, FA claim the region, and by taking the station you have made an act of war exactly the same as CA did.
If the space itself was unclaimed then your "hey we took it first" attitude might wash, but it doesn't.
The only pirate in this thread is the one who started it.
I suggest that you check your information.. Ratified March 2-04 By the CFS Senate
1. All FA controlled stations in Delve to remain FA controlled. 2. FA agrees to keep the Delve Region open - free use for all. Addendum 1: In case of warfare against the FA, the Delve region (or parts of) could be temporarilly closed of except for specifically allowed parties (CFS would be an obvious such party) Addendum 2: The Delve region is not considered 'FA Space' 3. CFS recognizes FA rights to utilize all and any resources and facilities of the sourounding regions (specifically Period Basis and Querious) 4. The CFS does not ask for reciprocal access to FA space. 5. FA recognizes the CFS lays claim to the three disputed regions. 6. Each side to designate ambassadors. 7. In case of dispute each agrees to wait 48 hours to allow ambassadors to reach a settlement before ANY other action is taken.
interesting, didn't know that. what it amounts to though is that FA own the stations.... kinda proves my point anyway huh?
No, quite frankly the clause that is of most importance in this discussion is 7.
7. In case of dispute each agrees to wait 48 hours to allow ambassadors to reach a settlement before ANY other action is taken.
I dont see any negotiations, I see a straight out killing of a supposed 'ally'. Therefore FA have broken the treaty, no?
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BEAutiful
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Posted - 2004.08.17 08:52:00 -
[167]
even BA have betrayed their long term friends.
with CA in fountain i bet that fleet was painful to make.
just take the bloody stations back to the rightful owners (CFS/locals etc whatever)
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BEAutiful
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Posted - 2004.08.17 08:52:00 -
[168]
even BA have betrayed their long term friends.
with CA in fountain i bet that fleet was painful to make.
just take the bloody stations back to the rightful owners (CFS/locals etc whatever)
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Elgin Marble
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Posted - 2004.08.17 09:30:00 -
[169]
BA indeed betrayed many of their friends last night, attacking a Querious corp station unprovoked.
Everyone knew that the take % at 3bk was a Fountain Alliance tax, but it was tolerated because (in the old days) BA and FA used to help defend the area from CA.
However, with BA defending FA possessions up in Fountain region, and *not* helping defend Querious region at all, it looks like BA's decision to join the FA will ultimately end in the loss of their stations. Corps down south have lost all respect for them, as currently there is only taxation without representation.
This scenario is being replayed in Delve, and no doubt in Period Basis also before long.
Under CA pressure, looks to me like FA is losing 3 regions they once controlled.
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Elgin Marble
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Posted - 2004.08.17 09:30:00 -
[170]
BA indeed betrayed many of their friends last night, attacking a Querious corp station unprovoked.
Everyone knew that the take % at 3bk was a Fountain Alliance tax, but it was tolerated because (in the old days) BA and FA used to help defend the area from CA.
However, with BA defending FA possessions up in Fountain region, and *not* helping defend Querious region at all, it looks like BA's decision to join the FA will ultimately end in the loss of their stations. Corps down south have lost all respect for them, as currently there is only taxation without representation.
This scenario is being replayed in Delve, and no doubt in Period Basis also before long.
Under CA pressure, looks to me like FA is losing 3 regions they once controlled.
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StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2004.08.17 10:06:00 -
[171]
lol STAN
FACTA NON VERBA |
StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2004.08.17 10:06:00 -
[172]
lol STAN
FACTA NON VERBA |
Plasius
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Posted - 2004.08.17 10:07:00 -
[173]
I believe FA needs to keep a 'Task force' to 'justify' their holding of the delve stations, without that task force the CFS/Delve Alliances should be in control of Delve space.
I am upset that FA believe they own the area, without their constant need to 'control the stations' me, my alt and all the other independant miners/Npc hunters wouldnt be required to be in the middle of a war they want no part of.
I have chatted to a few of the invading CA pilots and have found them to be reasonable, fun loving people, who dont hold grudges only want to play their role. I can say the same for FA pilots, but then I have met for want of a better word 'Idiots' on both sides. Some posting here, and some in local fall into both categories...
unfortunately FA and CA have made delve into a warzone where the only real casualties are the independants. (Who are now cannon fodder for both FA and CA pilots) one day I hope to see both FA and CA respect the rights of the CFS/Delve alliances... we/they arent organised enough yet, but ... your only going to force the independants into a stronger single alliance for self preservation and then you will BOTH be excluded from delve.
My 2Isk
p.s. if I wasnt in the middle of moving house I would have been out there trying diplomacy myself, but I will have to communicate through these channels until I have my home PC up and running again, apologies to any who recognise me as MIA
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Plasius
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Posted - 2004.08.17 10:07:00 -
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I believe FA needs to keep a 'Task force' to 'justify' their holding of the delve stations, without that task force the CFS/Delve Alliances should be in control of Delve space.
I am upset that FA believe they own the area, without their constant need to 'control the stations' me, my alt and all the other independant miners/Npc hunters wouldnt be required to be in the middle of a war they want no part of.
I have chatted to a few of the invading CA pilots and have found them to be reasonable, fun loving people, who dont hold grudges only want to play their role. I can say the same for FA pilots, but then I have met for want of a better word 'Idiots' on both sides. Some posting here, and some in local fall into both categories...
unfortunately FA and CA have made delve into a warzone where the only real casualties are the independants. (Who are now cannon fodder for both FA and CA pilots) one day I hope to see both FA and CA respect the rights of the CFS/Delve alliances... we/they arent organised enough yet, but ... your only going to force the independants into a stronger single alliance for self preservation and then you will BOTH be excluded from delve.
My 2Isk
p.s. if I wasnt in the middle of moving house I would have been out there trying diplomacy myself, but I will have to communicate through these channels until I have my home PC up and running again, apologies to any who recognise me as MIA
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shambley
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Posted - 2004.08.17 10:22:00 -
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It's amusing watching this saga unfold Seems this thread has been ganked by CA Sprinkle a little revolution for thier own aims ? Even had people in local in tpar talking about a NAP with CA - Old proverb - man who sleeps with dogs gets fleas - Funny to think of the prime minister chamberlain stype paper waving with someone shouting peace in our time So is this a subtle as make CFS forget treaty with FA - weaken FA and invade ? - then move on to CFS territory and isolate STAIN/Xetic - CA please no need to reply Only a week ago it was slaptalk about no jiont organisation here in the south now its talk of isolation - funny how the universe revolves - it will be interestin to see if CA political tactics are as organised,aggressive and devious as thier military ones - just an opinion with no motives here :-)
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shambley
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Posted - 2004.08.17 10:22:00 -
[176]
It's amusing watching this saga unfold Seems this thread has been ganked by CA Sprinkle a little revolution for thier own aims ? Even had people in local in tpar talking about a NAP with CA - Old proverb - man who sleeps with dogs gets fleas - Funny to think of the prime minister chamberlain stype paper waving with someone shouting peace in our time So is this a subtle as make CFS forget treaty with FA - weaken FA and invade ? - then move on to CFS territory and isolate STAIN/Xetic - CA please no need to reply Only a week ago it was slaptalk about no jiont organisation here in the south now its talk of isolation - funny how the universe revolves - it will be interestin to see if CA political tactics are as organised,aggressive and devious as thier military ones - just an opinion with no motives here :-)
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frederikop
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Posted - 2004.08.17 10:37:00 -
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Take this up again in 3-4 weeks.
Blabbering your mouth after 1 week of action is just plain dumb and nubbish.
Eve requires sustained effort.
FA havent proved shiat. CA havent proved shiat. CFS havent proved shiat.
Its all just a lot of words because you guys are forum *****s and like to talk a lot.
So go back and prove your alliance has got what it takes.
And resume this discussion in a month or so.
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frederikop
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Posted - 2004.08.17 10:37:00 -
[178]
Take this up again in 3-4 weeks.
Blabbering your mouth after 1 week of action is just plain dumb and nubbish.
Eve requires sustained effort.
FA havent proved shiat. CA havent proved shiat. CFS havent proved shiat.
Its all just a lot of words because you guys are forum *****s and like to talk a lot.
So go back and prove your alliance has got what it takes.
And resume this discussion in a month or so.
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Reiisha
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Posted - 2004.08.17 11:26:00 -
[179]
Edited by: Reiisha on 17/08/2004 11:28:20
Originally by: Reverend Necrona How niavie are you? Or did you not read the log. The issue here is this: CFS/Star Alliance/Delve pilots etc. whatever, fought for this station, lost ships for this station and will continue to lose ships. FA who part of the agreement stated that they would DEFEND these stations are indeed nowhere to be seen.
So the CFS people do their bit and instead of thanking them, swallowing ones ego for a minute and doing the sensible thing by allowing them to maintain control of these stations as at the current momment in time the FA is unable to commit any force there, they send a frigate with a gattling laser to attack the station. When resitance is met by the sheer insult of this action they attack those that have fought for this very station.
I find it very interesting that you are uanble to commit resources to defend this station against the CA, yet you are able to commit a ship or two to attack those who defended it.
Hmm Reverend, do i sense a bit o weakness here? Respect for the CFS in a small way?
Anyway, i think that the CFS should just take "their" stations. It's not like FA will wage a war against them...."
I can already see the lines they use: "Yes, we had to defend ourselves from the CFS". Would be cool if they said that, while taking stations from the CFS's space. Hypocrits
Gamersland.nl, DE site voor PC gaming! |
Reiisha
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Posted - 2004.08.17 11:26:00 -
[180]
Edited by: Reiisha on 17/08/2004 11:28:20
Originally by: Reverend Necrona How niavie are you? Or did you not read the log. The issue here is this: CFS/Star Alliance/Delve pilots etc. whatever, fought for this station, lost ships for this station and will continue to lose ships. FA who part of the agreement stated that they would DEFEND these stations are indeed nowhere to be seen.
So the CFS people do their bit and instead of thanking them, swallowing ones ego for a minute and doing the sensible thing by allowing them to maintain control of these stations as at the current momment in time the FA is unable to commit any force there, they send a frigate with a gattling laser to attack the station. When resitance is met by the sheer insult of this action they attack those that have fought for this very station.
I find it very interesting that you are uanble to commit resources to defend this station against the CA, yet you are able to commit a ship or two to attack those who defended it.
Hmm Reverend, do i sense a bit o weakness here? Respect for the CFS in a small way?
Anyway, i think that the CFS should just take "their" stations. It's not like FA will wage a war against them...."
I can already see the lines they use: "Yes, we had to defend ourselves from the CFS". Would be cool if they said that, while taking stations from the CFS's space. Hypocrits
Gamersland.nl, DE site voor PC gaming! |
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Kaizer Sojum
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Posted - 2004.08.17 11:32:00 -
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Originally by: frederikop Take this up again in 3-4 weeks.
Blabbering your mouth after 1 week of action is just plain dumb and nubbish.
Eve requires sustained effort.
FA havent proved shiat. CA havent proved shiat. CFS havent proved shiat.
Its all just a lot of words because you guys are forum *****s and like to talk a lot.
So go back and prove your alliance has got what it takes.
And resume this discussion in a month or so.
Got to agree with you there mate, we should all just slap some guns on to our ships and have a old school free for all.
Dead People dont talk, well at lest the shouldnt.
Kaizer Sojum
I might not be a idot but I will get there one day.
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Kaizer Sojum
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Posted - 2004.08.17 11:32:00 -
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Originally by: frederikop Take this up again in 3-4 weeks.
Blabbering your mouth after 1 week of action is just plain dumb and nubbish.
Eve requires sustained effort.
FA havent proved shiat. CA havent proved shiat. CFS havent proved shiat.
Its all just a lot of words because you guys are forum *****s and like to talk a lot.
So go back and prove your alliance has got what it takes.
And resume this discussion in a month or so.
Got to agree with you there mate, we should all just slap some guns on to our ships and have a old school free for all.
Dead People dont talk, well at lest the shouldnt.
Kaizer Sojum
I might not be a idot but I will get there one day.
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Woetra
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Posted - 2004.08.17 11:39:00 -
[183]
Edited by: Woetra on 17/08/2004 11:42:07
Originally by: Armanub
No, quite frankly the clause that is of most importance in this discussion is 7.
7. In case of dispute each agrees to wait 48 hours to allow ambassadors to reach a settlement before ANY other action is taken.
I dont see any negotiations, I see a straight out killing of a supposed 'ally'. Therefore FA have broken the treaty, no?
you could turn that around and say that their allies broke the treaty first by taking the station and refusing to give it back. The attack on the station by FA would not have been an act of agression as it was clearly their own station.
Add to this that the station holders were not CFS and therefore not subject to the 48h rule of the treaty, the only thing that stands is that both FA and CFS recognised FA's right to the station. The station holders then, from the point of view of CFS and FA, are agressors.
Sig Thief
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Woetra
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Posted - 2004.08.17 11:39:00 -
[184]
Edited by: Woetra on 17/08/2004 11:42:07
Originally by: Armanub
No, quite frankly the clause that is of most importance in this discussion is 7.
7. In case of dispute each agrees to wait 48 hours to allow ambassadors to reach a settlement before ANY other action is taken.
I dont see any negotiations, I see a straight out killing of a supposed 'ally'. Therefore FA have broken the treaty, no?
you could turn that around and say that their allies broke the treaty first by taking the station and refusing to give it back. The attack on the station by FA would not have been an act of agression as it was clearly their own station.
Add to this that the station holders were not CFS and therefore not subject to the 48h rule of the treaty, the only thing that stands is that both FA and CFS recognised FA's right to the station. The station holders then, from the point of view of CFS and FA, are agressors.
Sig Thief
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Elgin Marble
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Posted - 2004.08.17 12:00:00 -
[185]
Space-lawyers, you gotta love 'em
FA attacked an ASCI-owned station yesterday, in clear breach of the treaty with the CFS where they promised not to take over Querious region stations. To what end? they're never in the region anyway - all they want is the 5% tax on refining.
Well, CA have now re-taken 3bk again. Wonder how many BA were around to defend it? Try none!
IMO, those who liberate the station should be allowed to keep it. If FA take it back by force there'll be war yarrrr |
Elgin Marble
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Posted - 2004.08.17 12:00:00 -
[186]
Space-lawyers, you gotta love 'em
FA attacked an ASCI-owned station yesterday, in clear breach of the treaty with the CFS where they promised not to take over Querious region stations. To what end? they're never in the region anyway - all they want is the 5% tax on refining.
Well, CA have now re-taken 3bk again. Wonder how many BA were around to defend it? Try none!
IMO, those who liberate the station should be allowed to keep it. If FA take it back by force there'll be war yarrrr |
StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2004.08.17 12:14:00 -
[187]
geee you guys take this game to seriously theres killing to be done get on with it STAN
FACTA NON VERBA |
StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2004.08.17 12:14:00 -
[188]
geee you guys take this game to seriously theres killing to be done get on with it STAN
FACTA NON VERBA |
DAViiD
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Posted - 2004.08.17 12:17:00 -
[189]
Originally by: Dafuzz
Originally by: Gordano We felt that the FA was a peaceful, non-pirate organization, but after this action, they seem no better than the CA themselves.
With all due respect, I don't see feroci0us as committing piracy by wanting his corporation station back. AFDT have held that station since the station came to be. I am quite sure that you can use the station as a base of operations within the framework AFDT lays out, provided you haven't made a lifelong enemy by your actions.
I am an interested observer to this, as I use that station myself when I operate down there.
Good job on taking the station. But, since it is conquerable, having AFDT come to take it back can hardly be considered piracy.
So, that means that the TPAR-G station rightly belongs to Zoners corporation becouse we were the first to conquer it? U're damn wrong mate :).
D. Lokan > This is more boring as listening to golf on radio! |
DAViiD
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Posted - 2004.08.17 12:17:00 -
[190]
Originally by: Dafuzz
Originally by: Gordano We felt that the FA was a peaceful, non-pirate organization, but after this action, they seem no better than the CA themselves.
With all due respect, I don't see feroci0us as committing piracy by wanting his corporation station back. AFDT have held that station since the station came to be. I am quite sure that you can use the station as a base of operations within the framework AFDT lays out, provided you haven't made a lifelong enemy by your actions.
I am an interested observer to this, as I use that station myself when I operate down there.
Good job on taking the station. But, since it is conquerable, having AFDT come to take it back can hardly be considered piracy.
So, that means that the TPAR-G station rightly belongs to Zoners corporation becouse we were the first to conquer it? U're damn wrong mate :).
D. Lokan > This is more boring as listening to golf on radio! |
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Ukiah
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Posted - 2004.08.17 12:28:00 -
[191]
Edited by: Ukiah on 17/08/2004 12:29:51
Originally by: Elgin Marble Space-lawyers, you gotta love 'em
FA attacked an ASCI-owned station yesterday, in clear breach of the treaty with the CFS where they promised not to take over Querious region stations. To what end? they're never in the region anyway - all they want is the 5% tax on refining.
Well, CA have now re-taken 3bk again. Wonder how many BA were around to defend it? Try none!
IMO, those who liberate the station should be allowed to keep it. If FA take it back by force there'll be war yarrrr
I'm curious. The big complaint here, as I understand it, is BA shouldn't have the stations because BA isn't in Querious defending, yes? Additionally, there are a few corps that feel that BA is NEVER there defending the region. These few corps think THEY'RE the rightful owners of the stations in Querious because, as they put it, "we're out here defending the region". The go on to add that if BA TRULY deserved these stations, they wouldn't get taken over every night.
Which only leads me to ask, if these corps ARE so active and present and defending the region, how come these stations keep getting taken every night?
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Ukiah
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Posted - 2004.08.17 12:28:00 -
[192]
Edited by: Ukiah on 17/08/2004 12:29:51
Originally by: Elgin Marble Space-lawyers, you gotta love 'em
FA attacked an ASCI-owned station yesterday, in clear breach of the treaty with the CFS where they promised not to take over Querious region stations. To what end? they're never in the region anyway - all they want is the 5% tax on refining.
Well, CA have now re-taken 3bk again. Wonder how many BA were around to defend it? Try none!
IMO, those who liberate the station should be allowed to keep it. If FA take it back by force there'll be war yarrrr
I'm curious. The big complaint here, as I understand it, is BA shouldn't have the stations because BA isn't in Querious defending, yes? Additionally, there are a few corps that feel that BA is NEVER there defending the region. These few corps think THEY'RE the rightful owners of the stations in Querious because, as they put it, "we're out here defending the region". The go on to add that if BA TRULY deserved these stations, they wouldn't get taken over every night.
Which only leads me to ask, if these corps ARE so active and present and defending the region, how come these stations keep getting taken every night?
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Elgin Marble
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Posted - 2004.08.17 13:15:00 -
[193]
Originally by: Ukiah
Which only leads me to ask, if these corps ARE so active and present and defending the region, how come these stations keep getting taken every night?
Maybe some of these corps are refusing to engage CA on behalf of BA anymore?
As long as BA take a % take of the refining, plus docking fees, they won't find much support for station defence!
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Elgin Marble
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Posted - 2004.08.17 13:15:00 -
[194]
Originally by: Ukiah
Which only leads me to ask, if these corps ARE so active and present and defending the region, how come these stations keep getting taken every night?
Maybe some of these corps are refusing to engage CA on behalf of BA anymore?
As long as BA take a % take of the refining, plus docking fees, they won't find much support for station defence!
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Gordano
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Posted - 2004.08.17 13:34:00 -
[195]
Originally by: Ukiah Which only leads me to ask, if these corps ARE so active and present and defending the region, how come these stations keep getting taken every night?
There is a very simple answer to this- the pirates attack when there isn't anyone online willing to defend the station... It's all about who captures it back in the morning, it seems to be the locals every time. They let us do all the work so that they can get the rewards .
The simple fact is, we (Delve Alliance and United Systems Commonwealth) had a fleet of six odd ships to capture that station, and having FA capture it back with a newb ship, without even asking to have it back, was downright rude.
Now, I'm willing to negotiate, and more than willing to work together with the FA again, if they would reimburse me for what I lost in that battle (and obviously don't attempt to murder me again!).
We've all lost ships in this war, the last thing we need is to start loosing them to each other in a pointless battle.
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Gordano
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Posted - 2004.08.17 13:34:00 -
[196]
Originally by: Ukiah Which only leads me to ask, if these corps ARE so active and present and defending the region, how come these stations keep getting taken every night?
There is a very simple answer to this- the pirates attack when there isn't anyone online willing to defend the station... It's all about who captures it back in the morning, it seems to be the locals every time. They let us do all the work so that they can get the rewards .
The simple fact is, we (Delve Alliance and United Systems Commonwealth) had a fleet of six odd ships to capture that station, and having FA capture it back with a newb ship, without even asking to have it back, was downright rude.
Now, I'm willing to negotiate, and more than willing to work together with the FA again, if they would reimburse me for what I lost in that battle (and obviously don't attempt to murder me again!).
We've all lost ships in this war, the last thing we need is to start loosing them to each other in a pointless battle.
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Gordano
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Posted - 2004.08.17 13:36:00 -
[197]
Edited by: Gordano on 17/08/2004 13:39:33 Oops, double post.
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Gordano
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Posted - 2004.08.17 13:36:00 -
[198]
Edited by: Gordano on 17/08/2004 13:39:33 Oops, double post.
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Armanub
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Posted - 2004.08.17 13:39:00 -
[199]
Edited by: Armanub on 17/08/2004 13:45:33 It strikes me that Points 1. and 5. of the treaty are very poorly thought out. It amounts to saying that FA own the stations and CFS own, what, the empty space between them? The planets and jump gates and roids? CFS, you have to get a better negotiator my friends =/
Edit: This is the Delve region I'm on about
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Armanub
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Posted - 2004.08.17 13:39:00 -
[200]
Edited by: Armanub on 17/08/2004 13:45:33 It strikes me that Points 1. and 5. of the treaty are very poorly thought out. It amounts to saying that FA own the stations and CFS own, what, the empty space between them? The planets and jump gates and roids? CFS, you have to get a better negotiator my friends =/
Edit: This is the Delve region I'm on about
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Ukiah
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Posted - 2004.08.17 13:44:00 -
[201]
Originally by: Elgin Marble
Originally by: Ukiah
Which only leads me to ask, if these corps ARE so active and present and defending the region, how come these stations keep getting taken every night?
Maybe some of these corps are refusing to engage CA on behalf of BA anymore?
As long as BA take a % take of the refining, plus docking fees, they won't find much support for station defence!
I have a suggestion. How about you realize BA's been a stabilizing force in the region for SOME time? How about you realize that fighting CA is the most important thing? In regards to BA taking a % of the refining plus docking fees: I challenge you to find ANY POS station, particularly a refining one, where the controlling corp does NOT take a percentage. Btw, by continuously harping on the refine rate in particular, you're exposing who you're an alt for.
I still think you outta man up and post with your main.
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Ukiah
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Posted - 2004.08.17 13:44:00 -
[202]
Originally by: Elgin Marble
Originally by: Ukiah
Which only leads me to ask, if these corps ARE so active and present and defending the region, how come these stations keep getting taken every night?
Maybe some of these corps are refusing to engage CA on behalf of BA anymore?
As long as BA take a % take of the refining, plus docking fees, they won't find much support for station defence!
I have a suggestion. How about you realize BA's been a stabilizing force in the region for SOME time? How about you realize that fighting CA is the most important thing? In regards to BA taking a % of the refining plus docking fees: I challenge you to find ANY POS station, particularly a refining one, where the controlling corp does NOT take a percentage. Btw, by continuously harping on the refine rate in particular, you're exposing who you're an alt for.
I still think you outta man up and post with your main.
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Ukiah
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Posted - 2004.08.17 13:53:00 -
[203]
Originally by: Gordano
Originally by: Ukiah Which only leads me to ask, if these corps ARE so active and present and defending the region, how come these stations keep getting taken every night?
There is a very simple answer to this- the pirates attack when there isn't anyone online willing to defend the station... It's all about who captures it back in the morning, it seems to be the locals every time. They let us do all the work so that they can get the rewards .
The simple fact is, we (Delve Alliance and United Systems Commonwealth) had a fleet of six odd ships to capture that station, and having FA capture it back with a newb ship, without even asking to have it back, was downright rude.
Now, I'm willing to negotiate, and more than willing to work together with the FA again, if they would reimburse me for what I lost in that battle (and obviously don't attempt to murder me again!).
We've all lost ships in this war, the last thing we need is to start loosing them to each other in a pointless battle.
Yes, I understand. 9CG keeps getting taken by one of the RUS corps when most of IT is offline. Yes, locals usually recapture in the morning. No offense, but do you somehow feel that this makes the locals more suitable to controlling the station? And what work are you referring to doing to take back stations? Bringing down the shields or charging them up? Most of the time, at least in the instance of 9CG, the 'occupying forces' have already left/logged. They have no interest in actually holding the stations. They're enjoying all the 'running around like chickens with our heads cut off" and backbiting that's going on.
As far as FA retaking the station Delve Alliance and USC took back (TPAR was it?), I can't comment on that, as I'm not FA. Perhaps it could have been handled more diplomatically. However, I CAN say that Carbide took 9CG back for us the other day AND CONTACTED US to say "Hey, we took your station back for you. Please come get it". We were quite appreciative that they assisted us, and they couldn't have been nicer to deal with.
Reimbursement is something you'll have to take up either with FA or one of the individual FA corps.
Yes, we've all lost ships. CA is having a grand ol' time. I'm continuously surprised by the corps I thought of as 'friendly' who've taken leave of their senses regarding what's happening.
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Ukiah
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Posted - 2004.08.17 13:53:00 -
[204]
Originally by: Gordano
Originally by: Ukiah Which only leads me to ask, if these corps ARE so active and present and defending the region, how come these stations keep getting taken every night?
There is a very simple answer to this- the pirates attack when there isn't anyone online willing to defend the station... It's all about who captures it back in the morning, it seems to be the locals every time. They let us do all the work so that they can get the rewards .
The simple fact is, we (Delve Alliance and United Systems Commonwealth) had a fleet of six odd ships to capture that station, and having FA capture it back with a newb ship, without even asking to have it back, was downright rude.
Now, I'm willing to negotiate, and more than willing to work together with the FA again, if they would reimburse me for what I lost in that battle (and obviously don't attempt to murder me again!).
We've all lost ships in this war, the last thing we need is to start loosing them to each other in a pointless battle.
Yes, I understand. 9CG keeps getting taken by one of the RUS corps when most of IT is offline. Yes, locals usually recapture in the morning. No offense, but do you somehow feel that this makes the locals more suitable to controlling the station? And what work are you referring to doing to take back stations? Bringing down the shields or charging them up? Most of the time, at least in the instance of 9CG, the 'occupying forces' have already left/logged. They have no interest in actually holding the stations. They're enjoying all the 'running around like chickens with our heads cut off" and backbiting that's going on.
As far as FA retaking the station Delve Alliance and USC took back (TPAR was it?), I can't comment on that, as I'm not FA. Perhaps it could have been handled more diplomatically. However, I CAN say that Carbide took 9CG back for us the other day AND CONTACTED US to say "Hey, we took your station back for you. Please come get it". We were quite appreciative that they assisted us, and they couldn't have been nicer to deal with.
Reimbursement is something you'll have to take up either with FA or one of the individual FA corps.
Yes, we've all lost ships. CA is having a grand ol' time. I'm continuously surprised by the corps I thought of as 'friendly' who've taken leave of their senses regarding what's happening.
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Kildarin Farushna
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Posted - 2004.08.17 14:02:00 -
[205]
FA is Evil
I know the truth that Xanadu is controlling FA Hurts If you dont Agree with FA they will say you're Are a CA Alt. Strange thing is this is my only account and the only alt I have is Kildarin Farushna2.
[ 2004.08.13 13:37:39 ] azul > their words is worth 0 [ 2004.08.13 13:37:44 ] Kildarin Farushna > they only shooting FA [ 2004.08.13 13:37:47 ] Kildarin Farushna > you are FA [ 2004.08.13 13:37:57 ] azul > Kildarin [ 2004.08.13 13:38:04 ] Kildarin Farushna > thats my name [ 2004.08.13 13:38:11 ] azul > if you do not feel allied to cfs or FA feel free to quit your corp and enter ca [ 2004.08.13 13:38:49 ] azul > the question is: are you on side of evil player killer orgoopd side [ 2004.08.13 13:39:04 ] Gordano > back off azul
later
[ 2004.08.13 18:44:34 ] Kildarin Farushna > xan is controlling FA dude [ 2004.08.13 18:44:37 ] Valdirez > lol [ 2004.08.13 18:44:45 ] Free Man > i dont care bot Xan. its they problem [ 2004.08.13 18:44:54 ] Valdirez > well Kildarin I know u must be ca alt as well [ 2004.08.13 18:45:03 ] Kildarin Farushna > ROFL [ 2004.08.13 18:45:04 ] Valdirez > true [ 2004.08.13 18:45:08 ] Gorth > Hes isnt [ 2004.08.13 18:45:13 ] Gorth > at least not anyone i know [ 2004.08.13 18:45:26 ] Valdirez > GORTH if you say it I cannot believe it sorry :)
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Kildarin Farushna
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Posted - 2004.08.17 14:02:00 -
[206]
FA is Evil
I know the truth that Xanadu is controlling FA Hurts If you dont Agree with FA they will say you're Are a CA Alt. Strange thing is this is my only account and the only alt I have is Kildarin Farushna2.
[ 2004.08.13 13:37:39 ] azul > their words is worth 0 [ 2004.08.13 13:37:44 ] Kildarin Farushna > they only shooting FA [ 2004.08.13 13:37:47 ] Kildarin Farushna > you are FA [ 2004.08.13 13:37:57 ] azul > Kildarin [ 2004.08.13 13:38:04 ] Kildarin Farushna > thats my name [ 2004.08.13 13:38:11 ] azul > if you do not feel allied to cfs or FA feel free to quit your corp and enter ca [ 2004.08.13 13:38:49 ] azul > the question is: are you on side of evil player killer orgoopd side [ 2004.08.13 13:39:04 ] Gordano > back off azul
later
[ 2004.08.13 18:44:34 ] Kildarin Farushna > xan is controlling FA dude [ 2004.08.13 18:44:37 ] Valdirez > lol [ 2004.08.13 18:44:45 ] Free Man > i dont care bot Xan. its they problem [ 2004.08.13 18:44:54 ] Valdirez > well Kildarin I know u must be ca alt as well [ 2004.08.13 18:45:03 ] Kildarin Farushna > ROFL [ 2004.08.13 18:45:04 ] Valdirez > true [ 2004.08.13 18:45:08 ] Gorth > Hes isnt [ 2004.08.13 18:45:13 ] Gorth > at least not anyone i know [ 2004.08.13 18:45:26 ] Valdirez > GORTH if you say it I cannot believe it sorry :)
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HyperBaton
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Posted - 2004.08.17 14:11:00 -
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Edited by: HyperBaton on 17/08/2004 14:14:04
Originally by: Kildarin Farushna FA is Evil
I know the truth that Xanadu is controlling FA Hurts If you dont Agree with FA they will say you're Are a CA Alt. Strange thing is this is my only account and the only alt I have is Kildarin Farushna2.
[ 2004.08.13 13:37:39 ] azul > their words is worth 0 [ 2004.08.13 13:37:44 ] Kildarin Farushna > they only shooting FA [ 2004.08.13 13:37:47 ] Kildarin Farushna > you are FA [ 2004.08.13 13:37:57 ] azul > Kildarin [ 2004.08.13 13:38:04 ] Kildarin Farushna > thats my name [ 2004.08.13 13:38:11 ] azul > if you do not feel allied to cfs or FA feel free to quit your corp and enter ca [ 2004.08.13 13:38:49 ] azul > the question is: are you on side of evil player killer orgoopd side [ 2004.08.13 13:39:04 ] Gordano > back off azul
later
[ 2004.08.13 18:44:34 ] Kildarin Farushna > xan is controlling FA dude [ 2004.08.13 18:44:37 ] Valdirez > lol [ 2004.08.13 18:44:45 ] Free Man > i dont care bot Xan. its they problem [ 2004.08.13 18:44:54 ] Valdirez > well Kildarin I know u must be ca alt as well [ 2004.08.13 18:45:03 ] Kildarin Farushna > ROFL [ 2004.08.13 18:45:04 ] Valdirez > true [ 2004.08.13 18:45:08 ] Gorth > Hes isnt [ 2004.08.13 18:45:13 ] Gorth > at least not anyone i know [ 2004.08.13 18:45:26 ] Valdirez > GORTH if you say it I cannot believe it sorry :)
LOL, azul is the guy who's on the whole SNRA block list since a couple of days I think
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HyperBaton
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Posted - 2004.08.17 14:11:00 -
[208]
Edited by: HyperBaton on 17/08/2004 14:14:04
Originally by: Kildarin Farushna FA is Evil
I know the truth that Xanadu is controlling FA Hurts If you dont Agree with FA they will say you're Are a CA Alt. Strange thing is this is my only account and the only alt I have is Kildarin Farushna2.
[ 2004.08.13 13:37:39 ] azul > their words is worth 0 [ 2004.08.13 13:37:44 ] Kildarin Farushna > they only shooting FA [ 2004.08.13 13:37:47 ] Kildarin Farushna > you are FA [ 2004.08.13 13:37:57 ] azul > Kildarin [ 2004.08.13 13:38:04 ] Kildarin Farushna > thats my name [ 2004.08.13 13:38:11 ] azul > if you do not feel allied to cfs or FA feel free to quit your corp and enter ca [ 2004.08.13 13:38:49 ] azul > the question is: are you on side of evil player killer orgoopd side [ 2004.08.13 13:39:04 ] Gordano > back off azul
later
[ 2004.08.13 18:44:34 ] Kildarin Farushna > xan is controlling FA dude [ 2004.08.13 18:44:37 ] Valdirez > lol [ 2004.08.13 18:44:45 ] Free Man > i dont care bot Xan. its they problem [ 2004.08.13 18:44:54 ] Valdirez > well Kildarin I know u must be ca alt as well [ 2004.08.13 18:45:03 ] Kildarin Farushna > ROFL [ 2004.08.13 18:45:04 ] Valdirez > true [ 2004.08.13 18:45:08 ] Gorth > Hes isnt [ 2004.08.13 18:45:13 ] Gorth > at least not anyone i know [ 2004.08.13 18:45:26 ] Valdirez > GORTH if you say it I cannot believe it sorry :)
LOL, azul is the guy who's on the whole SNRA block list since a couple of days I think
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Jasp
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Posted - 2004.08.17 14:19:00 -
[209]
Originally by: Kildarin Farushna FA is Evil
I know the truth that Xanadu is controlling FA Hurts If you dont Agree with FA they will say you're Are a CA Alt. Strange thing is this is my only account and the only alt I have is Kildarin Farushna2.
Having seen you fight with FA against CA... I cannot see why ANYONE would/could call you a CA alt! You amongst others have made my time enjoyable out in 5-6, pity I aint able to play for a while. Would be fun sorting this all out.
p.s. Hope you have recovered your losses from your sleeping incident! Jasp |
Jasp
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Posted - 2004.08.17 14:19:00 -
[210]
Originally by: Kildarin Farushna FA is Evil
I know the truth that Xanadu is controlling FA Hurts If you dont Agree with FA they will say you're Are a CA Alt. Strange thing is this is my only account and the only alt I have is Kildarin Farushna2.
Having seen you fight with FA against CA... I cannot see why ANYONE would/could call you a CA alt! You amongst others have made my time enjoyable out in 5-6, pity I aint able to play for a while. Would be fun sorting this all out.
p.s. Hope you have recovered your losses from your sleeping incident! Jasp |
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Kildarin Farushna
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Posted - 2004.08.17 15:00:00 -
[211]
Originally by: Jasp
Having seen you fight with FA against CA... I cannot see why ANYONE would/could call you a CA alt! You amongst others have made my time enjoyable out in 5-6, pity I aint able to play for a while. Would be fun sorting this all out.
p.s. Hope you have recovered your losses from your sleeping incident!
Yeah I've recovered, well apoc was insured and I lost a couple of 2 accomondations and a few cap II rechargers, no biggy . Shame that armor repairers turn them self of after a couple of hours. Note to self: Press before falling asleep Ctrl+Q.
2004.08.10 05:57:00
Destroyed Type: Apocalypse Solar System: Q-02UL System Security Level: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: Blood Raiders (laid the final blow)
Destroyed items:
Type: Radio L (Cargo) Quantity: 9
Type: Infrared L (Cargo) Quantity: 8
Type: Gamma L (Cargo) Quantity: 9
Type: Microwave L (Cargo) Quantity: 8
Type: Large 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I (Fitted - Low slot)
Type: Cap Recharger II (Fitted - Medium slot)
Type: Cap Recharger II (Fitted - Medium slot)
Type: Hammerhead I (Drone Bay) Quantity: 1
Type: Hammerhead I (Drone Bay) Quantity: 1
Type: Hammerhead I (Drone Bay) Quantity: 1
Type: Mega Pulse Laser I (Fitted - High slot)
Type: Mega Pulse Laser I (Fitted - High slot)
Type: Mega Pulse Laser I (Fitted - High slot)
Type: Large 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I (Fitted - Low slot)
Type: Local Power Plant Manager: Capacity Power Relay I (Fitted - Low slot)
Type: Armor EM Hardener I (Fitted - Low slot)
Type: Armor Thermic Hardener I (Fitted - Low slot)
Type: Hammerhead I (Drone Bay)
Type: Hammerhead I (Drone Bay)
Type: 'Malkuth' Heavy Missile Launcher I (Cargo) Quantity: 1
Type: Large Ohm Capacitor Reserve I (Cargo) Quantity: 1
Type: Heat Dissipation Field I (Cargo) Quantity: 1
Type: Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets (Cargo) Quantity: 1
Type: Armor Kinetic Hardener I (Cargo) Quantity: 1
Type: Dual Modulated Heavy Energy Beam I (Cargo) Quantity: 1
Type: Multifrequency L (Fitted - High slot) Quantity: 1
Type: Multifrequency L (Fitted - High slot) Quantity: 1
Type: Multifrequency L (Fitted - High slot) Quantity: 1
Type: Multifrequency L (Fitted - High slot) Quantity: 1
Type: Multifrequency L (Fitted - High slot) Quantity: 1
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Kildarin Farushna
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Posted - 2004.08.17 15:00:00 -
[212]
Originally by: Jasp
Having seen you fight with FA against CA... I cannot see why ANYONE would/could call you a CA alt! You amongst others have made my time enjoyable out in 5-6, pity I aint able to play for a while. Would be fun sorting this all out.
p.s. Hope you have recovered your losses from your sleeping incident!
Yeah I've recovered, well apoc was insured and I lost a couple of 2 accomondations and a few cap II rechargers, no biggy . Shame that armor repairers turn them self of after a couple of hours. Note to self: Press before falling asleep Ctrl+Q.
2004.08.10 05:57:00
Destroyed Type: Apocalypse Solar System: Q-02UL System Security Level: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: Blood Raiders (laid the final blow)
Destroyed items:
Type: Radio L (Cargo) Quantity: 9
Type: Infrared L (Cargo) Quantity: 8
Type: Gamma L (Cargo) Quantity: 9
Type: Microwave L (Cargo) Quantity: 8
Type: Large 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I (Fitted - Low slot)
Type: Cap Recharger II (Fitted - Medium slot)
Type: Cap Recharger II (Fitted - Medium slot)
Type: Hammerhead I (Drone Bay) Quantity: 1
Type: Hammerhead I (Drone Bay) Quantity: 1
Type: Hammerhead I (Drone Bay) Quantity: 1
Type: Mega Pulse Laser I (Fitted - High slot)
Type: Mega Pulse Laser I (Fitted - High slot)
Type: Mega Pulse Laser I (Fitted - High slot)
Type: Large 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I (Fitted - Low slot)
Type: Local Power Plant Manager: Capacity Power Relay I (Fitted - Low slot)
Type: Armor EM Hardener I (Fitted - Low slot)
Type: Armor Thermic Hardener I (Fitted - Low slot)
Type: Hammerhead I (Drone Bay)
Type: Hammerhead I (Drone Bay)
Type: 'Malkuth' Heavy Missile Launcher I (Cargo) Quantity: 1
Type: Large Ohm Capacitor Reserve I (Cargo) Quantity: 1
Type: Heat Dissipation Field I (Cargo) Quantity: 1
Type: Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets (Cargo) Quantity: 1
Type: Armor Kinetic Hardener I (Cargo) Quantity: 1
Type: Dual Modulated Heavy Energy Beam I (Cargo) Quantity: 1
Type: Multifrequency L (Fitted - High slot) Quantity: 1
Type: Multifrequency L (Fitted - High slot) Quantity: 1
Type: Multifrequency L (Fitted - High slot) Quantity: 1
Type: Multifrequency L (Fitted - High slot) Quantity: 1
Type: Multifrequency L (Fitted - High slot) Quantity: 1
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Percivs
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Posted - 2004.08.17 18:45:00 -
[213]
Edited by: Percivs on 17/08/2004 18:52:05
Originally by: Armanub . . . I dont see any negotiations, I see a straight out killing of a supposed 'ally'. Therefore FA have broken the treaty, no?
No, that treaty is between CFS and FA, not this new guy and his alliance and FA.
FA doesn't recognize this new alliance, nor accord it any diplomatic channels. That's evident by the actions taken.
I've wandered around the Querious, Delve, Period Basis regions from time to time. Since I'm not in a corp that can stay in 0.0 full time, or even run the blockades regularly, I typically go scouting for the thrill and to meet people. (Kinda hard to rat hunt in a rifter kitted w/ dual 1mn MWD )
Edit: Apparently CA is attacking the Querious stations also.
As fuel to the fire though, I heard a rumor that this morning (eve time), Xanadu was podding people who were attempting to escape the 5-6 war zone. They were screaming "CA, don't shoot! I'm leaving Delve!" and Xanadu podded them for their trouble.
--- "All of us who are concerned for peace and triumph of reason and justice must be keenly aware how small an influence reason and honest good will exert upon events in the political field" - A.E. |
Percivs
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Posted - 2004.08.17 18:45:00 -
[214]
Edited by: Percivs on 17/08/2004 18:52:05
Originally by: Armanub . . . I dont see any negotiations, I see a straight out killing of a supposed 'ally'. Therefore FA have broken the treaty, no?
No, that treaty is between CFS and FA, not this new guy and his alliance and FA.
FA doesn't recognize this new alliance, nor accord it any diplomatic channels. That's evident by the actions taken.
I've wandered around the Querious, Delve, Period Basis regions from time to time. Since I'm not in a corp that can stay in 0.0 full time, or even run the blockades regularly, I typically go scouting for the thrill and to meet people. (Kinda hard to rat hunt in a rifter kitted w/ dual 1mn MWD )
Edit: Apparently CA is attacking the Querious stations also.
As fuel to the fire though, I heard a rumor that this morning (eve time), Xanadu was podding people who were attempting to escape the 5-6 war zone. They were screaming "CA, don't shoot! I'm leaving Delve!" and Xanadu podded them for their trouble.
--- "All of us who are concerned for peace and triumph of reason and justice must be keenly aware how small an influence reason and honest good will exert upon events in the political field" - A.E. |
Odet
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Posted - 2004.08.17 20:52:00 -
[215]
Edited by: Odet on 17/08/2004 20:55:05 FA are pirates, they just claim they arent to look good to all the noobs. But everyone who`s been in the game for over 2 months know they are scum.
EDIT: correction... FA are griefers....Pirates have class and honor.
=This podding has been brought to you by Odet, the only way to fry.= |
Odet
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Posted - 2004.08.17 20:52:00 -
[216]
Edited by: Odet on 17/08/2004 20:55:05 FA are pirates, they just claim they arent to look good to all the noobs. But everyone who`s been in the game for over 2 months know they are scum.
EDIT: correction... FA are griefers....Pirates have class and honor.
=This podding has been brought to you by Odet, the only way to fry.= |
zoooof
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Posted - 2004.08.17 21:38:00 -
[217]
WTB: Parrot, Wooden leg, and eye patch.
YARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
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zoooof
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Posted - 2004.08.17 21:38:00 -
[218]
WTB: Parrot, Wooden leg, and eye patch.
YARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
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Kildarin Farushna
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Posted - 2004.08.17 23:21:00 -
[219]
Originally by: zoooof WTB: Parrot, Wooden leg, and eye patch.
YARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Sorry zoooof, dont wanna sell my pirate set :) ____
->Lawless<- >>>New Formula<<< >>In your local 0.4 system soon<<
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Kildarin Farushna
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Posted - 2004.08.17 23:21:00 -
[220]
Originally by: zoooof WTB: Parrot, Wooden leg, and eye patch.
YARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Sorry zoooof, dont wanna sell my pirate set :) ____
->Lawless<- >>>New Formula<<< >>In your local 0.4 system soon<<
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Tikl3r
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Posted - 2004.08.17 23:38:00 -
[221]
Kild, i know your an alt >.< That whole corp is alts! Noob alts!
for all that dont know there is a new alliance in town -
OMGWTFPWNBBQ OST TORSK LOVER Alliance
we claim no space and no station but we have 3 members and we all love ost torsk :o
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Tikl3r
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Posted - 2004.08.17 23:38:00 -
[222]
Kild, i know your an alt >.< That whole corp is alts! Noob alts!
for all that dont know there is a new alliance in town -
OMGWTFPWNBBQ OST TORSK LOVER Alliance
we claim no space and no station but we have 3 members and we all love ost torsk :o
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Aerick Dawn
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Posted - 2004.08.18 00:50:00 -
[223]
I'm a little late in replying to this, but gonna have to side with the evil NFA. Gordano is a nublar...
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Aerick Dawn
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Posted - 2004.08.18 00:50:00 -
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I'm a little late in replying to this, but gonna have to side with the evil NFA. Gordano is a nublar...
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Gordano
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Posted - 2004.08.18 01:35:00 -
[225]
I suppose I am a "nublar"... I was just too dumb to see through your lies, right? - To update everyone else, Rev0lution proclaimed that they were there to uphold the peace and defend agaisnt all pirate threats around the D7-ZAC area... Aerick and I had a falling out, and guess what, the next day Rev0l joined the pirate syndicate! -
Anyway, thats all irrelivant Aerick, I don't argue, or negotiate with your kind, I POD them.
I've still yet to see any *official* FA response on this situation... All I asked was to be reimbursed for my losses (the insurance money, and ALL modules fitted) so that I can go back to fighting your war. So, whatdya say boys, can we be friends?
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Gordano
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Posted - 2004.08.18 01:35:00 -
[226]
I suppose I am a "nublar"... I was just too dumb to see through your lies, right? - To update everyone else, Rev0lution proclaimed that they were there to uphold the peace and defend agaisnt all pirate threats around the D7-ZAC area... Aerick and I had a falling out, and guess what, the next day Rev0l joined the pirate syndicate! -
Anyway, thats all irrelivant Aerick, I don't argue, or negotiate with your kind, I POD them.
I've still yet to see any *official* FA response on this situation... All I asked was to be reimbursed for my losses (the insurance money, and ALL modules fitted) so that I can go back to fighting your war. So, whatdya say boys, can we be friends?
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Servo
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Posted - 2004.08.18 01:35:00 -
[227]
They're wastes of life, what do you expect?
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Servo
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Posted - 2004.08.18 01:35:00 -
[228]
They're wastes of life, what do you expect?
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Split
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Posted - 2004.08.18 02:13:00 -
[229]
Quote: I've still yet to see any *official* FA response on this situation...
It's probably not important enough. i.e. nobody cares...
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Split
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Posted - 2004.08.18 02:13:00 -
[230]
Quote: I've still yet to see any *official* FA response on this situation...
It's probably not important enough. i.e. nobody cares...
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Gordano
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Posted - 2004.08.18 02:32:00 -
[231]
Someone cared enough to try to SB me on my way home... FA don't much like the spotlight, methinks.
I want to clear this up as quick as possible, and I still believe that the FA might have a *shread* of decency... I should hope you don't shatter my beliefs...
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Gordano
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Posted - 2004.08.18 02:32:00 -
[232]
Someone cared enough to try to SB me on my way home... FA don't much like the spotlight, methinks.
I want to clear this up as quick as possible, and I still believe that the FA might have a *shread* of decency... I should hope you don't shatter my beliefs...
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Jiggy
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Posted - 2004.08.18 02:38:00 -
[233]
You expect FA to give you 40 or 50 million isk for the privelage of getting one of their stations held by you, one of their members who was taking it back threatened and you coming onto the public forums and calling them pirates and generally flaming them?
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Jiggy
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Posted - 2004.08.18 02:38:00 -
[234]
You expect FA to give you 40 or 50 million isk for the privelage of getting one of their stations held by you, one of their members who was taking it back threatened and you coming onto the public forums and calling them pirates and generally flaming them?
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Kildarin Farushna
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Posted - 2004.08.18 02:59:00 -
[235]
Originally by: Jiggy You expect FA to give you 40 or 50 million isk for the privelage of getting one of their stations held by you,
Funny you said :"their" station. Is it build by them? no!! Did they buy it? no!! Did they own it before gordano's corp did? No!!! gordano captured it from Shinra.
Wake up its a conquorable station so their for who is the owner at the moment has right to do with it what the want. And Gordano didn't ask for 40 or 50 million so what brand pot are you smokin
Quote: , one of their members who was taking it back threatened and you coming onto the public forums and calling them pirates and generally flaming them?
Wouldn't you feel Threatened when some loony attacks your station in an Imparior. ____
->Lawless<- >>>New Formula<<< >>In your local 0.4 system soon<<
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Kildarin Farushna
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Posted - 2004.08.18 02:59:00 -
[236]
Originally by: Jiggy You expect FA to give you 40 or 50 million isk for the privelage of getting one of their stations held by you,
Funny you said :"their" station. Is it build by them? no!! Did they buy it? no!! Did they own it before gordano's corp did? No!!! gordano captured it from Shinra.
Wake up its a conquorable station so their for who is the owner at the moment has right to do with it what the want. And Gordano didn't ask for 40 or 50 million so what brand pot are you smokin
Quote: , one of their members who was taking it back threatened and you coming onto the public forums and calling them pirates and generally flaming them?
Wouldn't you feel Threatened when some loony attacks your station in an Imparior. ____
->Lawless<- >>>New Formula<<< >>In your local 0.4 system soon<<
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Jiggy
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Posted - 2004.08.18 03:11:00 -
[237]
Originally by: Kildarin Farushna
Originally by: Jiggy You expect FA to give you 40 or 50 million isk for the privelage of getting one of their stations held by you,
Funny you said :"their" station. Is it build by them? no!! Did they buy it? no!! Did they own it before gordano's corp did? No!!! gordano captured it from Shinra.
Wake up its a conquorable station so their for who is the owner at the moment has right to do with it what the want. And Gordano didn't ask for 40 or 50 million so what brand pot are you smokin
Quote: , one of their members who was taking it back threatened and you coming onto the public forums and calling them pirates and generally flaming them?
Wouldn't you feel Threatened when some loony attacks your station in an Imparior.
AFDT were the first corp to take the NOL station and by the treaty with CFS they have the right to hold it.
He was asking for insurance plus costs of modules on his ship which works out in access of 40 million for the majority of battleships.
Since its a conquerable station and he got blown up and the station was taken back why is he complaining then?Try to use a bit of logic or common sense when posting.And when you fail to see something try not to be so stupid as to say what brand of pot are you smoking it makes you come across as a child.
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Jiggy
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Posted - 2004.08.18 03:11:00 -
[238]
Originally by: Kildarin Farushna
Originally by: Jiggy You expect FA to give you 40 or 50 million isk for the privelage of getting one of their stations held by you,
Funny you said :"their" station. Is it build by them? no!! Did they buy it? no!! Did they own it before gordano's corp did? No!!! gordano captured it from Shinra.
Wake up its a conquorable station so their for who is the owner at the moment has right to do with it what the want. And Gordano didn't ask for 40 or 50 million so what brand pot are you smokin
Quote: , one of their members who was taking it back threatened and you coming onto the public forums and calling them pirates and generally flaming them?
Wouldn't you feel Threatened when some loony attacks your station in an Imparior.
AFDT were the first corp to take the NOL station and by the treaty with CFS they have the right to hold it.
He was asking for insurance plus costs of modules on his ship which works out in access of 40 million for the majority of battleships.
Since its a conquerable station and he got blown up and the station was taken back why is he complaining then?Try to use a bit of logic or common sense when posting.And when you fail to see something try not to be so stupid as to say what brand of pot are you smoking it makes you come across as a child.
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Gordano
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Posted - 2004.08.18 03:22:00 -
[239]
Originally by: Jiggy He was asking for insurance plus costs of modules on his ship which works out in access of 40 million for the majority of battleships.
Since its a conquerable station and he got blown up and the station was taken back why is he complaining then?
Your right about one thing, I am asking for 56 Million ISK, to demonstrate to me that this was nothing more than an accident, and that I am a valued member of this war against the CA.
My alliance took the station in the name of 'good', our team took it FROM the pirates, and my alliance was holding onto it until we found someone with a more substantial claim to it than my alliance had.
Nobody asked for it back, nobody even brought forth their claim to the station (besides some loony newb, in its' newb ship trying to proclaim their right to the station) until after I had been destroyed, there were no talks, there wasn't any negotiation, I was fired on, and later destroyed without provocation. There was NO way that I deserved to be blown up by FA forces.
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Gordano
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Posted - 2004.08.18 03:22:00 -
[240]
Originally by: Jiggy He was asking for insurance plus costs of modules on his ship which works out in access of 40 million for the majority of battleships.
Since its a conquerable station and he got blown up and the station was taken back why is he complaining then?
Your right about one thing, I am asking for 56 Million ISK, to demonstrate to me that this was nothing more than an accident, and that I am a valued member of this war against the CA.
My alliance took the station in the name of 'good', our team took it FROM the pirates, and my alliance was holding onto it until we found someone with a more substantial claim to it than my alliance had.
Nobody asked for it back, nobody even brought forth their claim to the station (besides some loony newb, in its' newb ship trying to proclaim their right to the station) until after I had been destroyed, there were no talks, there wasn't any negotiation, I was fired on, and later destroyed without provocation. There was NO way that I deserved to be blown up by FA forces.
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Jiggy
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Posted - 2004.08.18 03:37:00 -
[241]
Edited by: Jiggy on 18/08/2004 03:46:03 The implication I got that if Sir Adam didnt cease fire on the station you were going to blow the **** out of him for his trouble so I dont really blame feroci0us for shooting first asking questions later when he had been threatened.
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Jiggy
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Posted - 2004.08.18 03:37:00 -
[242]
Edited by: Jiggy on 18/08/2004 03:46:03 The implication I got that if Sir Adam didnt cease fire on the station you were going to blow the **** out of him for his trouble so I dont really blame feroci0us for shooting first asking questions later when he had been threatened.
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Posted - 2004.08.18 04:18:00 -
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No, that treaty is between CFS and FA, not this new guy and his alliance and FA.
FA doesn't recognize this new alliance, nor accord it any diplomatic channels. That's evident by the actions taken.
I've wandered around the Querious, Delve, Period Basis regions from time to time. Since I'm not in a corp that can stay in 0.0 full time, or even run the blockades regularly, I typically go scouting for the thrill and to meet people. (Kinda hard to rat hunt in a rifter kitted w/ dual 1mn MWD )
Edit: Apparently CA is attacking the Querious stations also.
As fuel to the fire though, I heard a rumor that this morning (eve time), Xanadu was podding people who were attempting to escape the 5-6 war zone. They were screaming "CA, don't shoot! I'm leaving Delve!" and Xanadu podded them for their trouble. ------------------------------------------------------------- yup it did happen honest,i wasnt there but i heard it through a friend of friend of an uncle whos got piles. so it must be true.
btw perc is an alt of tommy boy
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OVERCOPES 1
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Posted - 2004.08.18 04:18:00 -
[244]
No, that treaty is between CFS and FA, not this new guy and his alliance and FA.
FA doesn't recognize this new alliance, nor accord it any diplomatic channels. That's evident by the actions taken.
I've wandered around the Querious, Delve, Period Basis regions from time to time. Since I'm not in a corp that can stay in 0.0 full time, or even run the blockades regularly, I typically go scouting for the thrill and to meet people. (Kinda hard to rat hunt in a rifter kitted w/ dual 1mn MWD )
Edit: Apparently CA is attacking the Querious stations also.
As fuel to the fire though, I heard a rumor that this morning (eve time), Xanadu was podding people who were attempting to escape the 5-6 war zone. They were screaming "CA, don't shoot! I'm leaving Delve!" and Xanadu podded them for their trouble. ------------------------------------------------------------- yup it did happen honest,i wasnt there but i heard it through a friend of friend of an uncle whos got piles. so it must be true.
btw perc is an alt of tommy boy
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Plasius
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Posted - 2004.08.18 08:59:00 -
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Hey, if you dont think FA need to negotiate with those 'other alliances' out in delve, then FA CFS and the like are all in for one big surprise... Does FA want a war on another front? Yes? No? I mean, CA, Line up, wander through Delve and in the back door of FA... Who will be there to stop you soon?... Isnt an enemy of my enemy my friend or something like that?
FA NEED to negotiate with those alliances that help them out, I personally have a preference to keep delve a war free zone, BUT if the only way I can see to keep the region free from senseless war is to just allow CA forces to pass through unmolested, FA are going to end up with a whole NEW issue.
I aint a pirate, I am a hauler/NPC hunter, I have only ever used my intercptor for scouting and blockade running and personally I am out in delve becuase I think there are a great bunch of people out there... all willing to aid each other WITHOUT the need of a formal 'contract'.
So to all those that complain FA has no treaty with Gordano's alliance and friends, FA has an ally atm, these alliances may only field 30 odd BS at a time, but those 30 BS's delay and hamper CA at the moment, what happens when they 'agree a NAP' with CA? nothing is stopping them doing so...
To all those CA members out there... maybe you ought to try 'ignoring' those in delve who dont have the FA mark, and then you might gain your first real victory in the FA/CA war.
This is my personal opinion, and to any who think I'm threatening FA, you fools, I am just explaining the weak arent always as weak as they seem.
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Plasius
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Posted - 2004.08.18 08:59:00 -
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Hey, if you dont think FA need to negotiate with those 'other alliances' out in delve, then FA CFS and the like are all in for one big surprise... Does FA want a war on another front? Yes? No? I mean, CA, Line up, wander through Delve and in the back door of FA... Who will be there to stop you soon?... Isnt an enemy of my enemy my friend or something like that?
FA NEED to negotiate with those alliances that help them out, I personally have a preference to keep delve a war free zone, BUT if the only way I can see to keep the region free from senseless war is to just allow CA forces to pass through unmolested, FA are going to end up with a whole NEW issue.
I aint a pirate, I am a hauler/NPC hunter, I have only ever used my intercptor for scouting and blockade running and personally I am out in delve becuase I think there are a great bunch of people out there... all willing to aid each other WITHOUT the need of a formal 'contract'.
So to all those that complain FA has no treaty with Gordano's alliance and friends, FA has an ally atm, these alliances may only field 30 odd BS at a time, but those 30 BS's delay and hamper CA at the moment, what happens when they 'agree a NAP' with CA? nothing is stopping them doing so...
To all those CA members out there... maybe you ought to try 'ignoring' those in delve who dont have the FA mark, and then you might gain your first real victory in the FA/CA war.
This is my personal opinion, and to any who think I'm threatening FA, you fools, I am just explaining the weak arent always as weak as they seem.
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Sha'blach
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Posted - 2004.08.18 12:11:00 -
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Ironic, I was kicked out of corp because of my messege here saying CA was bad... more irony, my corp is FA! maybe you're right.
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Sha'blach
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Posted - 2004.08.18 12:11:00 -
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Ironic, I was kicked out of corp because of my messege here saying CA was bad... more irony, my corp is FA! maybe you're right.
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Gordano
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Posted - 2004.08.18 12:23:00 -
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Originally by: Jiggy Edited by: Jiggy on 18/08/2004 03:46:03 The implication I got that if Sir Adam didnt cease fire on the station you were going to blow the **** out of him for his trouble so I dont really blame feroci0us for shooting first asking questions later when he had been threatened.
Lets just get one thing straight for the record.. I had PLENTY of time to "blow the **** out of him", and a full load of drones that would have done it without question... I didn't fire, because I felt FA and USC had a repore, and the station wasn't worth it, but obviously they, or more specifically this guy, felt it was worth it...
Now, I think we've speculated enough, wheres the FA authorities here?
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Gordano
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Posted - 2004.08.18 12:23:00 -
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Originally by: Jiggy Edited by: Jiggy on 18/08/2004 03:46:03 The implication I got that if Sir Adam didnt cease fire on the station you were going to blow the **** out of him for his trouble so I dont really blame feroci0us for shooting first asking questions later when he had been threatened.
Lets just get one thing straight for the record.. I had PLENTY of time to "blow the **** out of him", and a full load of drones that would have done it without question... I didn't fire, because I felt FA and USC had a repore, and the station wasn't worth it, but obviously they, or more specifically this guy, felt it was worth it...
Now, I think we've speculated enough, wheres the FA authorities here?
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StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2004.08.18 12:24:00 -
[251]
certainly not on these boards mate
^ really having a hard time understanding this guy STAN
FACTA NON VERBA |
StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2004.08.18 12:24:00 -
[252]
certainly not on these boards mate
^ really having a hard time understanding this guy STAN
FACTA NON VERBA |
Aneu Angellus
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Posted - 2004.08.18 12:29:00 -
[253]
Originally by: StiZum Hilidii certainly not on these boards mate
^ really having a hard time understanding this guy
Ohh look, Ex-M0o... in Xanadu... I would never have thought it!!!
Hi Stan, loosing more ships? Aneu ________________ Aneu Angellus Vengeance Of The Fallen - WolfPack Military Captain
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Aneu Angellus
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Posted - 2004.08.18 12:29:00 -
[254]
Originally by: StiZum Hilidii certainly not on these boards mate
^ really having a hard time understanding this guy
Ohh look, Ex-M0o... in Xanadu... I would never have thought it!!!
Hi Stan, loosing more ships? Aneu ________________ Aneu Angellus Vengeance Of The Fallen - WolfPack Military Captain
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Jiggy
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Posted - 2004.08.18 12:42:00 -
[255]
Originally by: Gordano
Originally by: Jiggy Edited by: Jiggy on 18/08/2004 03:46:03 The implication I got that if Sir Adam didnt cease fire on the station you were going to blow the **** out of him for his trouble so I dont really blame feroci0us for shooting first asking questions later when he had been threatened.
Lets just get one thing straight for the record.. I had PLENTY of time to "blow the **** out of him", and a full load of drones that would have done it without question... I didn't fire, because I felt FA and USC had a repore, and the station wasn't worth it, but obviously they, or more specifically this guy, felt it was worth it...
Now, I think we've speculated enough, wheres the FA authorities here?
FA authorities dont post on these boards, if you had contacted one in game you probably could of worked something out but you came onto the boards and started shouting "Onoz FA are pirates" so I doubt they will listen to you now.
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Jiggy
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Posted - 2004.08.18 12:42:00 -
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Originally by: Gordano
Originally by: Jiggy Edited by: Jiggy on 18/08/2004 03:46:03 The implication I got that if Sir Adam didnt cease fire on the station you were going to blow the **** out of him for his trouble so I dont really blame feroci0us for shooting first asking questions later when he had been threatened.
Lets just get one thing straight for the record.. I had PLENTY of time to "blow the **** out of him", and a full load of drones that would have done it without question... I didn't fire, because I felt FA and USC had a repore, and the station wasn't worth it, but obviously they, or more specifically this guy, felt it was worth it...
Now, I think we've speculated enough, wheres the FA authorities here?
FA authorities dont post on these boards, if you had contacted one in game you probably could of worked something out but you came onto the boards and started shouting "Onoz FA are pirates" so I doubt they will listen to you now.
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Sha'blach
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Posted - 2004.08.18 13:27:00 -
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well, I'm no longer FA, but I still must say they arent pirates... Just some of the corps within it are a bit corrupted. Still doesnt support this guy's method though. Most an apoc defending my corp, and they kicked me 4 days later... I'd call that corrupted.
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Sha'blach
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Posted - 2004.08.18 13:27:00 -
[258]
well, I'm no longer FA, but I still must say they arent pirates... Just some of the corps within it are a bit corrupted. Still doesnt support this guy's method though. Most an apoc defending my corp, and they kicked me 4 days later... I'd call that corrupted.
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Kildarin Farushna
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Posted - 2004.08.18 13:50:00 -
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Edited by: Kildarin Farushna on 18/08/2004 14:00:09 WHY?!?!?!?!? what's wrong with FA?
2004.08.18 13:46:00 Victim: Marlak Garill Corporation: Nighthawks Destroyed Type: Megathron Solar System: T-M0FA System Security Level: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: Bizarre Security Status: 2.8 Corporation: Xanadu Ship Type: Moa Weapon Type: Unknown
Name: Makeone Security Status: 2.7 Corporation: FinFleet Ship Type: Scorpion Weapon Type: Unknown
Name: StiZum Hilidii (laid the final blow) Security Status: 1.0 Corporation: Xanadu Ship Type: Moa Weapon Type: Heavy Ion Blaster I
Name: Ruoja Security Status: 0.2 Corporation: FinFleet Ship Type: Scorpion Weapon Type: Unknown
Name: La'nugos Security Status: 2.8 Corporation: FinFleet Ship Type: Vigil Weapon Type: Unknown ____
->Lawless<- >>>New Formula<<< >>In your local 0.4 system soon<<
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Kildarin Farushna
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Posted - 2004.08.18 13:50:00 -
[260]
Edited by: Kildarin Farushna on 18/08/2004 14:00:09 WHY?!?!?!?!? what's wrong with FA?
2004.08.18 13:46:00 Victim: Marlak Garill Corporation: Nighthawks Destroyed Type: Megathron Solar System: T-M0FA System Security Level: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: Bizarre Security Status: 2.8 Corporation: Xanadu Ship Type: Moa Weapon Type: Unknown
Name: Makeone Security Status: 2.7 Corporation: FinFleet Ship Type: Scorpion Weapon Type: Unknown
Name: StiZum Hilidii (laid the final blow) Security Status: 1.0 Corporation: Xanadu Ship Type: Moa Weapon Type: Heavy Ion Blaster I
Name: Ruoja Security Status: 0.2 Corporation: FinFleet Ship Type: Scorpion Weapon Type: Unknown
Name: La'nugos Security Status: 2.8 Corporation: FinFleet Ship Type: Vigil Weapon Type: Unknown ____
->Lawless<- >>>New Formula<<< >>In your local 0.4 system soon<<
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Bizarre
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Posted - 2004.08.18 14:01:00 -
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Originally by: Kildarin Farushna Edited by: Kildarin Farushna on 18/08/2004 14:00:09 WHY?!?!?!?!? what's wrong with FA?
Take a look at your previous replies, hypocrite. -------------------------------------------------
Deathwing > U LIKE THOSE NUTS ON YA CHIN?
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Bizarre
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Posted - 2004.08.18 14:01:00 -
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Originally by: Kildarin Farushna Edited by: Kildarin Farushna on 18/08/2004 14:00:09 WHY?!?!?!?!? what's wrong with FA?
Take a look at your previous replies, hypocrite. -------------------------------------------------
Deathwing > U LIKE THOSE NUTS ON YA CHIN?
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Jiggy
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Posted - 2004.08.18 14:07:00 -
[263]
You got killed **** happens deal with it, maybe if you didnt spend most of your time on the forums calling the people that killed you eveil maybe you wouldnt of been killed.
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Jiggy
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Posted - 2004.08.18 14:07:00 -
[264]
You got killed **** happens deal with it, maybe if you didnt spend most of your time on the forums calling the people that killed you eveil maybe you wouldnt of been killed.
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Kildarin Farushna
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Posted - 2004.08.18 14:21:00 -
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Edited by: Kildarin Farushna on 18/08/2004 14:23:02 Uhm, Jiggy it wasn't me
Victim: Marlak Garill Corporation: Nighthawks Destroyed Type: Megathron Solar System: T-M0FA System Security Level: 0.0 ____
->Lawless<- >>>New Formula<<< >>In your local 0.4 system soon<<
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Kildarin Farushna
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Posted - 2004.08.18 14:21:00 -
[266]
Edited by: Kildarin Farushna on 18/08/2004 14:23:02 Uhm, Jiggy it wasn't me
Victim: Marlak Garill Corporation: Nighthawks Destroyed Type: Megathron Solar System: T-M0FA System Security Level: 0.0 ____
->Lawless<- >>>New Formula<<< >>In your local 0.4 system soon<<
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BEAutiful
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Posted - 2004.08.18 14:33:00 -
[267]
this is getting stupid, FA end urselves u arrogent ****s.
not much more to say, other than every 'rude' word in the book :P |
BEAutiful
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Posted - 2004.08.18 14:33:00 -
[268]
this is getting stupid, FA end urselves u arrogent ****s.
not much more to say, other than every 'rude' word in the book :P |
Kildarin Farushna
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Posted - 2004.08.18 14:40:00 -
[269]
first time I've bin called a hypocrite ^^. Seems to me your the only hypocrite here dude:
Quote: hypocrite
one who puts on a mask and feigns himself to be what he is not; a dissembler in religion. Our Lord severely rebuked the scribes and Pharisees for their hypocrisy (Matt. 6:2, 5, 16). "The hypocrite's hope shall perish" (Job 8:13). The Hebrew word here rendered "hypocrite" rather means the "godless" or "profane," as it is rendered in Jer. 23:11, i.e., polluted with crimes.
And I dont like it. Looks like this forum whoring leets to no where i'll solve it ingame. See ya in space and fly safe. ____
->Lawless<- >>>New Formula<<< >>In your local 0.4 system soon<<
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Kildarin Farushna
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Posted - 2004.08.18 14:40:00 -
[270]
first time I've bin called a hypocrite ^^. Seems to me your the only hypocrite here dude:
Quote: hypocrite
one who puts on a mask and feigns himself to be what he is not; a dissembler in religion. Our Lord severely rebuked the scribes and Pharisees for their hypocrisy (Matt. 6:2, 5, 16). "The hypocrite's hope shall perish" (Job 8:13). The Hebrew word here rendered "hypocrite" rather means the "godless" or "profane," as it is rendered in Jer. 23:11, i.e., polluted with crimes.
And I dont like it. Looks like this forum whoring leets to no where i'll solve it ingame. See ya in space and fly safe. ____
->Lawless<- >>>New Formula<<< >>In your local 0.4 system soon<<
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IIIIII
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Posted - 2004.08.18 14:50:00 -
[271]
Originally by: Gordano
Originally by: Jiggy Edited by: Jiggy on 18/08/2004 03:46:03 The implication I got that if Sir Adam didnt cease fire on the station you were going to blow the **** out of him for his trouble so I dont really blame feroci0us for shooting first asking questions later when he had been threatened.
Lets just get one thing straight for the record.. I had PLENTY of time to "blow the **** out of him", and a full load of drones that would have done it without question... I didn't fire, because I felt FA and USC had a repore, and the station wasn't worth it, but obviously they, or more specifically this guy, felt it was worth it...
Now, I think we've speculated enough, wheres the FA authorities here?
if you are seriously trying to have FA reinburse you, you should atleast take it to private channels, instead of yabbering on about how FA are pirates etc ;)
seriously, works wonders when you dont **** ppl off by attracting buttloads of flames for them
this thread wont get you anywhere tbh, unless you want more bloodshed
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IIIIII
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Posted - 2004.08.18 14:50:00 -
[272]
Originally by: Gordano
Originally by: Jiggy Edited by: Jiggy on 18/08/2004 03:46:03 The implication I got that if Sir Adam didnt cease fire on the station you were going to blow the **** out of him for his trouble so I dont really blame feroci0us for shooting first asking questions later when he had been threatened.
Lets just get one thing straight for the record.. I had PLENTY of time to "blow the **** out of him", and a full load of drones that would have done it without question... I didn't fire, because I felt FA and USC had a repore, and the station wasn't worth it, but obviously they, or more specifically this guy, felt it was worth it...
Now, I think we've speculated enough, wheres the FA authorities here?
if you are seriously trying to have FA reinburse you, you should atleast take it to private channels, instead of yabbering on about how FA are pirates etc ;)
seriously, works wonders when you dont **** ppl off by attracting buttloads of flames for them
this thread wont get you anywhere tbh, unless you want more bloodshed
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Ukiah
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Posted - 2004.08.18 15:13:00 -
[273]
Originally by: Aneu Angellus
Originally by: StiZum Hilidii certainly not on these boards mate
^ really having a hard time understanding this guy
Ohh look, Ex-M0o... in Xanadu... I would never have thought it!!!
Hi Stan, loosing more ships? Aneu
What's wrong with m00? Weren't there allied with CA at one point? I happen to LIKE m00. Yeah, they're 'pirates' and I'm supposed to and do fight them (only handful of times) but those guys rock. IT had a decent sized battle with them many many weeks ago. It started well, we held our own, did some damage, but then the wheels came off. We philosophically chalked it up to as a learning experience. However, there was NO smacktalk in local and I've got to say, I can't think of a cooler opponent than m00. Seriously, those cats rock.
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Ukiah
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Posted - 2004.08.18 15:13:00 -
[274]
Originally by: Aneu Angellus
Originally by: StiZum Hilidii certainly not on these boards mate
^ really having a hard time understanding this guy
Ohh look, Ex-M0o... in Xanadu... I would never have thought it!!!
Hi Stan, loosing more ships? Aneu
What's wrong with m00? Weren't there allied with CA at one point? I happen to LIKE m00. Yeah, they're 'pirates' and I'm supposed to and do fight them (only handful of times) but those guys rock. IT had a decent sized battle with them many many weeks ago. It started well, we held our own, did some damage, but then the wheels came off. We philosophically chalked it up to as a learning experience. However, there was NO smacktalk in local and I've got to say, I can't think of a cooler opponent than m00. Seriously, those cats rock.
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Dopefish
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Posted - 2004.08.18 15:30:00 -
[275]
*hint*
Every alliance has trigger happy pilots who like to shoot people just for fun...CA has a slightly higher percentage of those pilots thats all :) There is no good and evil.
Swedish chef does not like cake |
Dopefish
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Posted - 2004.08.18 15:30:00 -
[276]
*hint*
Every alliance has trigger happy pilots who like to shoot people just for fun...CA has a slightly higher percentage of those pilots thats all :) There is no good and evil.
Swedish chef does not like cake |
Asmodia
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Posted - 2004.08.18 16:07:00 -
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Originally by: Odet Edited by: Odet on 17/08/2004 20:55:05 FA are pirates, they just claim they arent to look good to all the noobs. But everyone who`s been in the game for over 2 months know they are scum.
EDIT: correction... FA are griefers....Pirates have class and honor.
there is a diffent: Most Pirates have honor and they doesnt kill you posting on the offical forums
------------------------------------------------ CEO of Spectre Syndicate - Curse Alliance ------------------------------------------------ |
Asmodia
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Posted - 2004.08.18 16:07:00 -
[278]
Originally by: Odet Edited by: Odet on 17/08/2004 20:55:05 FA are pirates, they just claim they arent to look good to all the noobs. But everyone who`s been in the game for over 2 months know they are scum.
EDIT: correction... FA are griefers....Pirates have class and honor.
there is a diffent: Most Pirates have honor and they doesnt kill you posting on the offical forums
------------------------------------------------ CEO of Spectre Syndicate - Curse Alliance ------------------------------------------------ |
Tholarim
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Posted - 2004.08.18 16:38:00 -
[279]
Originally by: Bizarre
Originally by: Kildarin Farushna Edited by: Kildarin Farushna on 18/08/2004 14:00:09 WHY?!?!?!?!? what's wrong with FA?
Take a look at your previous replies, hypocrite.
There ya go, disagreeing with FA on the forums gets you killed. :Let alone disagreeing with em in game lol. Freedom of speech my ass
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Tholarim
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Posted - 2004.08.18 16:38:00 -
[280]
Originally by: Bizarre
Originally by: Kildarin Farushna Edited by: Kildarin Farushna on 18/08/2004 14:00:09 WHY?!?!?!?!? what's wrong with FA?
Take a look at your previous replies, hypocrite.
There ya go, disagreeing with FA on the forums gets you killed. :Let alone disagreeing with em in game lol. Freedom of speech my ass
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Jiggy
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Posted - 2004.08.18 16:46:00 -
[281]
Heres a link to show why the last 2 posts were hypocritical:
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=101914
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Jiggy
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Posted - 2004.08.18 16:46:00 -
[282]
Heres a link to show why the last 2 posts were hypocritical:
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=101914
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Mustafa Wilson
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Posted - 2004.08.18 16:55:00 -
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Remember, CFSers -- just do what you're told and never step out of line, and for God's sake, never, ever say anything that might offend FA.
Or else.
You need to learn your place.
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Mustafa Wilson
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Posted - 2004.08.18 16:55:00 -
[284]
Remember, CFSers -- just do what you're told and never step out of line, and for God's sake, never, ever say anything that might offend FA.
Or else.
You need to learn your place.
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.08.18 17:00:00 -
[285]
Originally by: StiZum Hilidii geee you guys take this game to seriously theres killing to be done get on with it
Damn i think i love you! Reverend Necrona |
Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.08.18 17:00:00 -
[286]
Originally by: StiZum Hilidii geee you guys take this game to seriously theres killing to be done get on with it
Damn i think i love you! Reverend Necrona |
Moe Sczyzlak
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Posted - 2004.08.19 00:34:00 -
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ppolitics
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Moe Sczyzlak
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Posted - 2004.08.19 00:34:00 -
[288]
ppolitics
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Mituno Sakai
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Posted - 2004.08.19 06:06:00 -
[289]
Edited by: Mituno Sakai on 19/08/2004 07:28:12 /edit: deleted since Darkrydars post was deleted
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Mituno Sakai
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Posted - 2004.08.19 06:06:00 -
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Edited by: Mituno Sakai on 19/08/2004 07:28:12 /edit: deleted since Darkrydars post was deleted
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Darkrydar
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Posted - 2004.08.19 06:15:00 -
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Originally by: Mituno Sakai That is impressive Darkrydar.
You made a *real* short contribution to this thread and managed to display an utter lack of knowledge about both Eve and the *real* world as well.
Another xanadu front corp.......
Oh I know why you got so many, its because its easy to plant moles then.
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Darkrydar
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Posted - 2004.08.19 06:15:00 -
[292]
Originally by: Mituno Sakai That is impressive Darkrydar.
You made a *real* short contribution to this thread and managed to display an utter lack of knowledge about both Eve and the *real* world as well.
Another xanadu front corp.......
Oh I know why you got so many, its because its easy to plant moles then.
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Aneu Angellus
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Posted - 2004.08.21 13:54:00 -
[293]
Go through this post, find all the chars that are not displaying corporations, find the ones that are displaying noob corporations, filter through known eve community members...
99.99% of what you have found are FA Alts... have a nice day.
Aneu ________________ Aneu Angellus Vengeance Of The Fallen - WolfPack Military Captain
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Aneu Angellus
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Posted - 2004.08.21 13:54:00 -
[294]
Go through this post, find all the chars that are not displaying corporations, find the ones that are displaying noob corporations, filter through known eve community members...
99.99% of what you have found are FA Alts... have a nice day.
Aneu ________________ Aneu Angellus Vengeance Of The Fallen - WolfPack Military Captain
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SithEwok
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Posted - 2004.08.25 10:28:00 -
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from #1 choice target, yes if you comment on what a sleezy, corrupted, bag of puss FA is on the forums, yes they target your name first.
I always knew they would start stepping out of bounds with neutral corporations. They will find it harder and harder to cover up things like this on the forums.
This is just another display of FA arrogance, yes they think they own eve.
To the original poster, Gordano, how did you feel when you found out the station attacker was the alt of the ceo you were talking to? Can you think of the name of people that lure with alts sometimes and bring in the big boy while your falling for it?
Here, let me draw you this picture --> I know cause im in a pirate corp. For anyone to think FA are different, this is just another display.
There are some good people in FA, however they dont wear the pants to kick out the scum that are getting FA attacked. Dont worry this is not another "rise up against your leaders" post, we all know where that gets oldFA. *for the new kids, this means 1 person can bring the entire corp up to be voted out.
So keep on, keepin on, LOoks go0d on the forums.
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SithEwok
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Posted - 2004.08.25 10:28:00 -
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from #1 choice target, yes if you comment on what a sleezy, corrupted, bag of puss FA is on the forums, yes they target your name first.
I always knew they would start stepping out of bounds with neutral corporations. They will find it harder and harder to cover up things like this on the forums.
This is just another display of FA arrogance, yes they think they own eve.
To the original poster, Gordano, how did you feel when you found out the station attacker was the alt of the ceo you were talking to? Can you think of the name of people that lure with alts sometimes and bring in the big boy while your falling for it?
Here, let me draw you this picture --> I know cause im in a pirate corp. For anyone to think FA are different, this is just another display.
There are some good people in FA, however they dont wear the pants to kick out the scum that are getting FA attacked. Dont worry this is not another "rise up against your leaders" post, we all know where that gets oldFA. *for the new kids, this means 1 person can bring the entire corp up to be voted out.
So keep on, keepin on, LOoks go0d on the forums.
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Pastor Wallace
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Posted - 2004.08.25 11:38:00 -
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Edited by: Pastor Wallace on 25/08/2004 11:55:38 Edited by: Pastor Wallace on 25/08/2004 11:49:37 OK this is the history as i have been able to peice it together from first hand accounts and forum reads.
In the begining of CFS the corporations that opperated in the area formed the Coalition to work together and cover eachother when they ventured down there, now from what i understand when castor launched and the smuggler gates appeared, FA found the back doors and eventualy found the stations, at that time NPC,s corps owned them. Now before the gates opened the CFS claimed Querious, Delve, and PB regions, but rarly ever ventured down that far because before the stations appeared it was just to far to haul ore. So the FA, found the new stations in a region clearly claimed by another alliance, and took the stations. Now the CFS finaly reacted and sent a fleet down (this was when CFS still had a navy) there and what ensued could only be described as a mexican standoff.
The CFS leaders at that time just as they do now feared the FA, as from what i can gather the FA was even stronger back then, than it is now. So instead of fighting they basicly told FA they could have Delve, and its stations. Not wanting to open a war with a larger force with a jump point into the back yard. So FA "agreed" that it was CFS space, but the stations would be owned by FA corporations. Now call me funny but i dont think an alliance should have to have another alliance agree that they exist.
So all was well, but as time went by and the stations brought a diverse population into the area, the locals begin to wonder why, though they had CFS Memebrs in theyre bios they were in effect flying in FA space, and paying FA taxes. So naturaly the FA treaty was contested by the general public of the CFS, and again the CFS were either unable, unwilling, or just plain affraid to do anything, so hence you had the formation of these small sub alliances. STAR, DSMA, Delve, ect.
Now you have several "alliances" all in the same "alliance". How that works dont ask me, since every region really is its own governing body.And as this has shown the in abbility of the CFS to control the population in they're own space, all the regions have basicly come under the control of the individuals alliances. For the CFS to think they really have any control over the 3 regions anymore is preposterious.
Now we come to the last month or so. CA wants to take out FA, the regional alliances of the CFS allow FA to make money to support a war against CA. So naturaly its in CA's best interest to try to cut off funding to the enemy. Its a perfectly tactical move. So CA starts out by taking 5-6 from Xanadu. Then they sign a sillent ceasefire with the locals in the area, and allow them to go back to what ever it is they do down there. The CFSDF at this time saw this as an opportunity to Avoid a problem on two fronts. The civil unrest in the "CFS" and an invading force from CA. WE tried to avoid a war since at home the CFS were having enough problems just holding things together.
Now heres the part i find ammusing to the whole fiasco.. The "CFS" goverment have been "talking" to FA about handing over the stations for months, but within 12 hours of raindrop and a few others learning of the CFSDF trying to avoid a war we could not hope to either support or win, we were denouced as traitors, and Myself and a few of my fleet commanders were put on the KOS list. Now the funny part is that the CFS will spend months talking to an aggresive FA force, but turned on a force that had been fighting for the CFS for over a month (on they're own dime i might add) in less then 12 hours.
Now it brings me to another point in the drawn out post. If you look at the history as i have been told by many people that were they're, the FA invaded CFS space. Plain and Simple. And now they have been here so long that alot of people have gotten used to them. Now we have new people flowing into the regions, and those people dont agree with the treaty. And the CFS fails to realize that the "CFS GOVERMENT" has absolutly no power because they show no respect to the general population. The real power of the regions lies in the poeple fighting for they're homes, I mean honestly you have CA rampaging about killing people right and left and taking statons, you have the locals trying to defned they're homes, then you have FA killing the locals to get the stations back. So right now as i see it the CFS are fighting a war on 3 fronts, FA, CA, and internaly.
Now i have read many times on forums that BA says that the stations arnt that important, and they really dont make much money. But if this is true then why does BA "fight" ASCI for 3BK? And if thats the case why do the rest of the FA corps continue to attack loacals for stations that are "worthless" i mean if they're is nothing to gain what differance does it make who owns the stations as long as everyone
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Pastor Wallace
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Posted - 2004.08.25 11:38:00 -
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Edited by: Pastor Wallace on 25/08/2004 11:55:38 Edited by: Pastor Wallace on 25/08/2004 11:49:37 OK this is the history as i have been able to peice it together from first hand accounts and forum reads.
In the begining of CFS the corporations that opperated in the area formed the Coalition to work together and cover eachother when they ventured down there, now from what i understand when castor launched and the smuggler gates appeared, FA found the back doors and eventualy found the stations, at that time NPC,s corps owned them. Now before the gates opened the CFS claimed Querious, Delve, and PB regions, but rarly ever ventured down that far because before the stations appeared it was just to far to haul ore. So the FA, found the new stations in a region clearly claimed by another alliance, and took the stations. Now the CFS finaly reacted and sent a fleet down (this was when CFS still had a navy) there and what ensued could only be described as a mexican standoff.
The CFS leaders at that time just as they do now feared the FA, as from what i can gather the FA was even stronger back then, than it is now. So instead of fighting they basicly told FA they could have Delve, and its stations. Not wanting to open a war with a larger force with a jump point into the back yard. So FA "agreed" that it was CFS space, but the stations would be owned by FA corporations. Now call me funny but i dont think an alliance should have to have another alliance agree that they exist.
So all was well, but as time went by and the stations brought a diverse population into the area, the locals begin to wonder why, though they had CFS Memebrs in theyre bios they were in effect flying in FA space, and paying FA taxes. So naturaly the FA treaty was contested by the general public of the CFS, and again the CFS were either unable, unwilling, or just plain affraid to do anything, so hence you had the formation of these small sub alliances. STAR, DSMA, Delve, ect.
Now you have several "alliances" all in the same "alliance". How that works dont ask me, since every region really is its own governing body.And as this has shown the in abbility of the CFS to control the population in they're own space, all the regions have basicly come under the control of the individuals alliances. For the CFS to think they really have any control over the 3 regions anymore is preposterious.
Now we come to the last month or so. CA wants to take out FA, the regional alliances of the CFS allow FA to make money to support a war against CA. So naturaly its in CA's best interest to try to cut off funding to the enemy. Its a perfectly tactical move. So CA starts out by taking 5-6 from Xanadu. Then they sign a sillent ceasefire with the locals in the area, and allow them to go back to what ever it is they do down there. The CFSDF at this time saw this as an opportunity to Avoid a problem on two fronts. The civil unrest in the "CFS" and an invading force from CA. WE tried to avoid a war since at home the CFS were having enough problems just holding things together.
Now heres the part i find ammusing to the whole fiasco.. The "CFS" goverment have been "talking" to FA about handing over the stations for months, but within 12 hours of raindrop and a few others learning of the CFSDF trying to avoid a war we could not hope to either support or win, we were denouced as traitors, and Myself and a few of my fleet commanders were put on the KOS list. Now the funny part is that the CFS will spend months talking to an aggresive FA force, but turned on a force that had been fighting for the CFS for over a month (on they're own dime i might add) in less then 12 hours.
Now it brings me to another point in the drawn out post. If you look at the history as i have been told by many people that were they're, the FA invaded CFS space. Plain and Simple. And now they have been here so long that alot of people have gotten used to them. Now we have new people flowing into the regions, and those people dont agree with the treaty. And the CFS fails to realize that the "CFS GOVERMENT" has absolutly no power because they show no respect to the general population. The real power of the regions lies in the poeple fighting for they're homes, I mean honestly you have CA rampaging about killing people right and left and taking statons, you have the locals trying to defned they're homes, then you have FA killing the locals to get the stations back. So right now as i see it the CFS are fighting a war on 3 fronts, FA, CA, and internaly.
Now i have read many times on forums that BA says that the stations arnt that important, and they really dont make much money. But if this is true then why does BA "fight" ASCI for 3BK? And if thats the case why do the rest of the FA corps continue to attack loacals for stations that are "worthless" i mean if they're is nothing to gain what differance does it make who owns the stations as long as everyone
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Jodrell
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Posted - 2004.08.25 11:59:00 -
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Well written an absolutely spot on.
FA = Leeches
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Jodrell
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Posted - 2004.08.25 11:59:00 -
[300]
Well written an absolutely spot on.
FA = Leeches
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Pastor Wallace
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Posted - 2004.08.25 12:15:00 -
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Edited by: Pastor Wallace on 25/08/2004 12:22:49 continued.. gets to use the stations.
Plus in my limited personal experiance as of late, i have seen the CA keeping htey're word inregards to the tempory ceasfire, and the allowing of the locals to go about they're bussiness unmolested. So i might not know much about the past. But from what i see of the present CA has been keeping they're word. But even if what i hear about the past is true and CA will turn on the CFS after they are done with FA, then why fight them now when the CFS is weak. If they are going to turn on you anyway in the end, then its tacticaly stupid to engage a superior enemy, when you could buy time and build your forces. And since they are going to "turn on the CFS" anyway, why loose ships now that could be used to mount offensive or defensive opperation in the future? If at the very least history has shown us that CA will always do whats in they're best interest. Wich makes them predictable to anyone with half an I.Q. point worth of tactical commonsense.
As for FA they are no differant than CA. Both are out to amass more power and wealth, and will stop at nothing to do it. And remember the old bully in school, everyone was scared of him. and one day someone stood up to him, and everyone else saw that he was only human. This is what FA is. The bully of the school yard, But all you have to do is get all the people they pick on together and stand up to them, and you will see that this aura of invicability is just a BS line.
From a tactical stand point it would be in the CFS best interest to let FA and CA duke it out and sit on the sidelines. All raindrop did was put us in the middle of two pit bulls fighting. And after they are done with us they will just go back to fighting. Why sacrafice ships and time to a lost cause. You support FA you will have to fight CA, you Support CA you will end up fighting FA, you support neither, and for the time being CA leaves and you end up fighitng FA.. so really atm wich are the power hungry pirates.
And dont even post some junk like "well when CA beets FA they will take out CFS.." CA cant beet FA, any more than FA could beet CA. you cant kill pilots, and they can keep replacing the ships, so you can't bloody win a war in ths game. and they will fight till they get sick of fighting, neither side can win, so why disrup the life of the miners who were lured into the CFS under false pretenses that it was FREE space, and would be relitivly peacfull to mine in? Now you took that FREE space and turned it into a war zone. And the poeple who are just trying to make a living and could care less about PvP are the ones really paying the price.
Just my dollar fifty worth
Pastor
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Pastor Wallace
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Posted - 2004.08.25 12:15:00 -
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Edited by: Pastor Wallace on 25/08/2004 12:22:49 continued.. gets to use the stations.
Plus in my limited personal experiance as of late, i have seen the CA keeping htey're word inregards to the tempory ceasfire, and the allowing of the locals to go about they're bussiness unmolested. So i might not know much about the past. But from what i see of the present CA has been keeping they're word. But even if what i hear about the past is true and CA will turn on the CFS after they are done with FA, then why fight them now when the CFS is weak. If they are going to turn on you anyway in the end, then its tacticaly stupid to engage a superior enemy, when you could buy time and build your forces. And since they are going to "turn on the CFS" anyway, why loose ships now that could be used to mount offensive or defensive opperation in the future? If at the very least history has shown us that CA will always do whats in they're best interest. Wich makes them predictable to anyone with half an I.Q. point worth of tactical commonsense.
As for FA they are no differant than CA. Both are out to amass more power and wealth, and will stop at nothing to do it. And remember the old bully in school, everyone was scared of him. and one day someone stood up to him, and everyone else saw that he was only human. This is what FA is. The bully of the school yard, But all you have to do is get all the people they pick on together and stand up to them, and you will see that this aura of invicability is just a BS line.
From a tactical stand point it would be in the CFS best interest to let FA and CA duke it out and sit on the sidelines. All raindrop did was put us in the middle of two pit bulls fighting. And after they are done with us they will just go back to fighting. Why sacrafice ships and time to a lost cause. You support FA you will have to fight CA, you Support CA you will end up fighting FA, you support neither, and for the time being CA leaves and you end up fighitng FA.. so really atm wich are the power hungry pirates.
And dont even post some junk like "well when CA beets FA they will take out CFS.." CA cant beet FA, any more than FA could beet CA. you cant kill pilots, and they can keep replacing the ships, so you can't bloody win a war in ths game. and they will fight till they get sick of fighting, neither side can win, so why disrup the life of the miners who were lured into the CFS under false pretenses that it was FREE space, and would be relitivly peacfull to mine in? Now you took that FREE space and turned it into a war zone. And the poeple who are just trying to make a living and could care less about PvP are the ones really paying the price.
Just my dollar fifty worth
Pastor
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Andrew Redburn
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Posted - 2004.08.25 15:22:00 -
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Edited by: Andrew Redburn on 25/08/2004 15:30:15 The stations in Period Base were owned by [ADGA] as first player corporation. We still got the evemails where its written that we took them from Serpentis. This was right after downtime when the Stations were firstly introduced. Our great CEO Amar CEO took them, while me in a Megathron (at that time ******* PvP Newb) came to his support. So does that mean, that ADGA can go and claim them just because we were the first to take them? No, it does not. They can only be claimed if taken by force and kept through force.
If anybody wants to claim a region or stations, he must reach an agreement by words or show he can simply take what he wants and be prepared to even hold it against a gang of 40 or more ships at any time. This is true no matter in which region or against which alliance.
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Andrew Redburn
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Posted - 2004.08.25 15:22:00 -
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Edited by: Andrew Redburn on 25/08/2004 15:30:15 The stations in Period Base were owned by [ADGA] as first player corporation. We still got the evemails where its written that we took them from Serpentis. This was right after downtime when the Stations were firstly introduced. Our great CEO Amar CEO took them, while me in a Megathron (at that time ******* PvP Newb) came to his support. So does that mean, that ADGA can go and claim them just because we were the first to take them? No, it does not. They can only be claimed if taken by force and kept through force.
If anybody wants to claim a region or stations, he must reach an agreement by words or show he can simply take what he wants and be prepared to even hold it against a gang of 40 or more ships at any time. This is true no matter in which region or against which alliance.
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Katya Detia
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Posted - 2004.08.25 15:28:00 -
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Not how it works my friend. The people actively in the defence on the station, should own it... ---------------------------
CEO: Black Sea Industries
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Katya Detia
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Posted - 2004.08.25 15:28:00 -
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Not how it works my friend. The people actively in the defence on the station, should own it... ---------------------------
CEO: Black Sea Industries
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Doctor Yueh
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Posted - 2004.08.25 15:52:00 -
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Originally by: Katya Detia Not how it works my friend. The people actively in the defence on the station, should own it...
You sound like a begger. You have defended nothing, otherwise you would not come here complaining that the stations have been lost everytime there was a tiny bit of hostile forces in the area.
Come here when you actually can hold the station. As for losing your ships while defending...Well, let me just say that you need to have some skills before asking for some reward.
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Doctor Yueh
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Posted - 2004.08.25 15:52:00 -
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Originally by: Katya Detia Not how it works my friend. The people actively in the defence on the station, should own it...
You sound like a begger. You have defended nothing, otherwise you would not come here complaining that the stations have been lost everytime there was a tiny bit of hostile forces in the area.
Come here when you actually can hold the station. As for losing your ships while defending...Well, let me just say that you need to have some skills before asking for some reward.
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