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Argos Mindbender
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Posted - 2009.03.16 05:34:00 -
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Edited by: Argos Mindbender on 16/03/2009 05:34:07
I've been searching the forums and various sites for the last few hours, unfortunatly there is so much old and outdated information to sift through.
I just have a few questions around POSes when they are attacked.
1. When a POS is placed in reinforced mode, can you anchor/online more guns?
1a. Can you place ammo in these guns while in reinforced?
2. Can you access the Ship Maintenance Array while in reinforced?
3. Is it correct that you cannot access the Corporate Hangar Array while in reinforced?
Thanks 
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Oliver Everett
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Posted - 2009.03.16 07:01:00 -
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Yes you can anchor/online guns and place ammo inside them when the POS is in reinforced. Anything that requires cpu can't be onlined or operated though (like web/ecm battery's, missle battery's, guns will still online though as they need only grid).
If the hanger and maintenance array require CPU you wont be able to use them.
Also check the knowledgebase entry if you haven't already:
http://support.eve-online.com/Pages/KB/Article.aspx?id=362
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Lord Fitz
Project Amargosa
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Posted - 2009.03.16 11:39:00 -
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 Originally by: Argos Mindbender
Edited by: Argos Mindbender on 16/03/2009 05:34:07
I've been searching the forums and various sites for the last few hours, unfortunatly there is so much old and outdated information to sift through.
I just have a few questions around POSes when they are attacked.
1. When a POS is placed in reinforced mode, can you anchor/online more guns?
1a. Can you place ammo in these guns while in reinforced?
2. Can you access the Ship Maintenance Array while in reinforced?
3. Is it correct that you cannot access the Corporate Hangar Array while in reinforced?
Thanks
1. Yes
1a. Yes - you may have to online the first though (it gives a funny message when they're offline I believe, but you most certainly can put ammo in them in one of their online/offline states.)
2. Yes, you can, at least the standard ship maintenance array, not the capital one that requires CPU I believe.
3. Yes. You can not access silos, corp hangars, the corp hangars of anything that requires CPU (labs) while the POS is in reinforced. This is despite you normally being able to do so while they are offline (and in the case of silos having to do so while they are offline). Reinforced is a special case.
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Scathia Mindbender
Antimatter Inc
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Posted - 2009.03.16 12:08:00 -
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Edited by: Scathia Mindbender on 16/03/2009 12:08:23
Thanks for the answers :) Much appreciated
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Captain Havoc
Caldari
H A V O C
Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.03.16 17:02:00 -
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Dunno if this will help you much but it's a POS tracking and damage spreadsheet i made.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/2r1unhd0ihw/POS_Tracking_&_Damage_Spreadsheet_V1.13.xls
I know it doesn't answer the questions you had, but it's along the same topic of the thread :P
Dark Centuri Inc.
POS Director
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Pizi
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.03.16 18:31:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Havoc
Dunno if this will help you much but it's a POS tracking and damage spreadsheet i made.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/2r1unhd0ihw/POS_Tracking_&_Damage_Spreadsheet_V1.13.xls
I know it doesn't answer the questions you had, but it's along the same topic of the thread :P
nice spreadshead
but are you sure that ammo afacts gun range ?
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Captain Havoc
Caldari
H A V O C
Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.03.16 22:56:00 -
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Originally by: Pizi
Originally by: Captain Havoc
Dunno if this will help you much but it's a POS tracking and damage spreadsheet i made.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/2r1unhd0ihw/POS_Tracking_&_Damage_Spreadsheet_V1.13.xls
I know it doesn't answer the questions you had, but it's along the same topic of the thread :P
nice spreadshead
but are you sure that ammo afacts gun range ?
Am i sure that ammo effects gun range? not to be a smart ass or an *******, but are you a complete noob? take a look at the attributes of the different ammunition types, EMP has a -50% to range, that effects the turret, just cause it's a POS gun it's not special..
Dark Centuri Inc.
POS Director
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Lord Fitz
Project Amargosa
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Posted - 2009.03.17 11:58:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Havoc
Am i sure that ammo effects gun range? not to be a smart ass or an *******, but are you a complete noob? take a look at the attributes of the different ammunition types, EMP has a -50% to range, that effects the turret, just cause it's a POS gun it's not special..
I think he says this because people can hit at over 2000km using antimatter with POS guns. So it doesn't appear to work the same way as other turrets, and they most certainly are 'special' ;)
Either way there doesn't appear to be any reason to use anything other than the highest damage / spread damage type ammo.
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Kalpaks II
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Posted - 2009.03.17 12:21:00 -
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Perfect job! Just realized i need to put more meds up 
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Vektari
Serpents Flame
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Posted - 2009.03.20 03:45:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Fitz
Originally by: Captain Havoc
Am i sure that ammo effects gun range? not to be a smart ass or an *******, but are you a complete noob? take a look at the attributes of the different ammunition types, EMP has a -50% to range, that effects the turret, just cause it's a POS gun it's not special..
I think he says this because people can hit at over 2000km using antimatter with POS guns. So it doesn't appear to work the same way as other turrets, and they most certainly are 'special' ;)
Either way there doesn't appear to be any reason to use anything other than the highest damage / spread damage type ammo.
I am assuming you meant 200km not 2000. Even the small rails can hit out 225km with Antimatter. 150km optimal -50% + 2X falloff of 75K gives a 225K range.
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Petyr Baelich
Taggart Transdimensional
Virtue of Selfishness
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Posted - 2009.03.20 05:26:00 -
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Originally by: Vektari
Originally by: Lord Fitz
Originally by: Captain Havoc
Am i sure that ammo effects gun range? not to be a smart ass or an *******, but are you a complete noob? take a look at the attributes of the different ammunition types, EMP has a -50% to range, that effects the turret, just cause it's a POS gun it's not special..
I think he says this because people can hit at over 2000km using antimatter with POS guns. So it doesn't appear to work the same way as other turrets, and they most certainly are 'special' ;)
Either way there doesn't appear to be any reason to use anything other than the highest damage / spread damage type ammo.
I am assuming you meant 200km not 2000. Even the small rails can hit out 225km with Antimatter. 150km optimal -50% + 2X falloff of 75K gives a 225K range.
No, he meant 2000k. People have hit ships that were off-grid from the POS, and I've seen it happen. Not sure of the mechanics involved, (I assume the POS gunner has the ship targetted, and it warps to a relatively nearby off-grid staging area and somehow still stays locked by the POS gunner). My own tests support the fact that ammo's range modifier does not affect POS gun range whatsoever.
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Lord Fitz
Project Amargosa
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Posted - 2009.03.20 13:16:00 -
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Originally by: Vektari
I am assuming you meant 200km not 2000. Even the small rails can hit out 225km with Antimatter. 150km optimal -50% + 2X falloff of 75K gives a 225K range.
You assume incorrectly I mean TWO THOUSAND. I have taken control of the guns and done this myself, they aren't affected by the 250km range cap, and this definitely surprises some people who think they're 'safely' out of range, moments before they blink out of existence ;) And this with antimatter. At that point, the only reason I see to use anything other than the highest damage ammo is to vary damage types (with projectiles), in which case EMP/Phased plasma is a good mix.
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