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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
526
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Posted - 2012.04.29 23:31:00 -
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TWHC Assistant wrote:He does however miss to mention the seasonal ups and downs. Not that I am denying the influence of Incarna ... I am far from it.
Once they are back where they should or could have been will I congratulate CCP. Until then is this not more than part of the management's work. Well you take a balanced view of all the evidence, I'll give you that. +1
Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |

Bane Necran
389
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Posted - 2012.04.29 23:50:00 -
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Obligatory "EVE is dying" comment. "It's no use crying over spilt milk, because all the forces of the universe were bent on spilling it." ~William Maugham |

RAP ACTION HERO
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
10
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Posted - 2012.04.30 02:04:00 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:Ai Shun wrote:DeMichael Crimson wrote:Anyway, during the 4 years I've been playing this game I've noticed a decline in the amount of active players on login. I remember back when I started playing this game the average was about 35k during the week and 55k on weekends. Now the average is about 25k a week and 45k on weekends. You are always fond of quoting the summer of rage as the reason for the dip in players. Why not apply that logic to this as well? There is a steady increase in player numbers from 2006 through to the beginning of 2011. A large dip and a slow climb back now that CCP is focusing on core EVE again. Since you decided to overlook what I wrote, I'll repeat it for you again, 'during the 4 years I've been playing....' I'm talking about from the middle of 2008 to present day. Anyway, you got it backwards, there's been short spurts of large growth followed by a long steady decrease in player numbers. Looking at the chart, from the middle of 2008 to the middle of 2009 overall had a continuous steady growth for most of that year. The middle of 2009 is the base reference point showing the longest stretch of time with a steady low amount of players.. Each consecutive growth spurt after that has been short lived but each one has increased in amount compared to the previous growth spurt. Probably due to good advertising, PR work for expansions, word of mouth, etc. Each consecutive growth spurt has been followed with a larger initial drop followed with a steady gradual decrease in numbers bringing it back down around the initial low reference point of 2009. Probably due to various bugs, broken content, people being disillusioned by the PR advertising, etc. Looking at the chart, from 2006 to the middle of 2009 there was definitely steady growth. Middle of 2009 to 2011 it was sporadic and short lived but each one was exponentially larger than the previous one. 2011 overall was definitely a fast steady decline in numbers.
hehe a nice summary until you factor in the fact that this guy is all mad about wis. |

Boomhaur
30
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Posted - 2012.04.30 03:31:00 -
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Confirming that everyone left due to expectation of CCP trying to take out ship spinning, again. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
533
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Posted - 2012.04.30 03:34:00 -
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Boomhaur wrote:Confirming that everyone left due to expectation of CCP trying to take out ship spinning, again. Not our ship spinning... Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |

Katerwaul
The Scope Gallente Federation
16
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Posted - 2012.04.30 03:40:00 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:Xython wrote:Mussaschi wrote:Just looking at http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility I wonder. After most releases there are more players active. So I guess you either did a really great job at killing bots or the 60% highsector people did not love this expansion that much. Free to guess I am literally not seeing any data that suggests a major player dropout. Look at the past month the chart has a fairly static trendline. Please elaborate as to what exactly you mean. Or is this just another attempt by some carebear's alt to try and blackmail CCP into giving you yet more attention? GAWD, are you trying to be the biggest windbag blowhard of all time? I see you doing multiple BJ's in every thread. Probably be a good idea if you give it a rest already. Anyway, during the 4 years I've been playing this game I've noticed a decline in the amount of active players on login. I remember back when I started playing this game the average was about 35k during the week and 55k on weekends. Now the average is about 25k a week and 45k on weekends. Hell, this same topic came up in chat yesterday and someone mentioned bot bans probably having an affect. After thinking about it, I'd have to agree.
I can't speak for everyone but I know that when we were having the 55k weekends I'd log in with 2-3 characters at a time, but now I usually just log in with this one. Working with everyone to improve New Eden -- Internet Spaceships Iz Serious Business. |

DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1871
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Posted - 2012.04.30 06:25:00 -
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RAP ACTION HERO wrote:
hehe a nice summary until you factor in the fact that this guy is all mad about wis.
Thanks for the asshat fail troll. |

RAP ACTION HERO
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
10
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Posted - 2012.04.30 06:56:00 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:RAP ACTION HERO wrote:
hehe a nice summary until you factor in the fact that this guy is all mad about wis.
Thanks for the asshat fail troll.
nuthin but the truth brah |

DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1871
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Posted - 2012.04.30 07:24:00 -
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RAP ACTION HERO wrote: nuthin but the truth brah
You can't handle the truth |

DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
167
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Posted - 2012.04.30 08:59:00 -
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The Incursion nerf has worse then decimated numbers at least in HI SEC. I predict AT LEAST a hexi- to pentimation of incursion runners & subscription losses. Dunno if NULL & LO sec will see same losses in incursions yet. To the whiners : CCP Soundwave "Incursions are not a big issue in terms of isk globally" |
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Zora'e
Nasty Pope
22
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Posted - 2012.04.30 09:11:00 -
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Riyal wrote:Login numbers dip?! Quick, to the batcave!!
We are sorry, but the batcave has been temporarily closed due to an unusually high number of bats killed by multiple Bee stings.
In EVE Online...-á-á A Friend will calm you down when you are angry after getting Ganked.., but a Best Friend will fly along beside you commanding a Strike Group singing "Someones Gonna Get It!!!".-á ~Zora'e-áI once popped a frigate with a Battleship just for the LOL's... Concord didn't think it was funny. |

Lexmana
Imperial Stout
389
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Posted - 2012.04.30 11:22:00 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:Ai Shun wrote:DeMichael Crimson wrote:Anyway, during the 4 years I've been playing this game I've noticed a decline in the amount of active players on login. I remember back when I started playing this game the average was about 35k during the week and 55k on weekends. Now the average is about 25k a week and 45k on weekends. You are always fond of quoting the summer of rage as the reason for the dip in players. Why not apply that logic to this as well? There is a steady increase in player numbers from 2006 through to the beginning of 2011. A large dip and a slow climb back now that CCP is focusing on core EVE again. Since you decided to overlook what I wrote, I'll repeat it for you again, 'during the 4 years I've been playing....' I'm talking about from the middle of 2008 to present day. Anyway, you got it backwards, there's been short spurts of large growth followed by a long steady decrease in player numbers. Looking at the chart, from the middle of 2008 to the middle of 2009 overall had a continuous steady growth for most of that year. The middle of 2009 is the base reference point showing the longest stretch of time with a steady low amount of players.. Each consecutive growth spurt after that has been short lived but each one has increased in amount compared to the previous growth spurt. Probably due to good advertising, PR work for expansions, word of mouth, etc. Each consecutive growth spurt has been followed with a larger initial drop followed with a steady gradual decrease in numbers bringing it back down around the initial low reference point of 2009. Probably due to various bugs, broken content, people being disillusioned by the PR advertising, etc. Looking at the chart, from 2006 to the middle of 2009 there was definitely steady growth. Middle of 2009 to 2011 it was sporadic and short lived but each one was exponentially larger than the previous one. 2011 overall was definitely a fast steady decline in numbers.
So after noticing pcu going up and down and up and down and up and down and up and down and finally up - you conclude it has gone down even though they are up from when you started? |

Sigurd Sig Hansen
Hedion University Amarr Empire
79
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Posted - 2012.04.30 12:04:00 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:Lexmana wrote:DeMichael Crimson wrote:Lexmana wrote:I'd say more like medium rare. And DMC is a terribad poster. Heh, that may be true considering I don't use the usual simpleton misspelled memes like 'U Mad' or 'Pubbie'. However, if my posting is 'terribad', then yours is definitely atrocious. Let me give you a hint: DeMichael Crimson wrote:Anyway, during the 4 years I've been playing this game I've noticed a decline in the amount of active players on login. You are terribad since you think what you have 'noticed' is better than objective data that is freely available to anyone with internet access: http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility Well, let's take a generalized look at that 3rd party chart from when I first started playing Eve Online. 1st year: From the middle of 2008 Eve Online overall had a steady continuous growth til the middle of 2009. 2nd year: In the middle of 2009 there was a drastic drop which leveled for about 6 months. Winter expansion - end of 2009 - it spiked back up to where it previously was in the middle of 2009 for a month or 2 and then started a gradual continuous drop back down till the middle of 2010. That decline only went half way down to the low amount that was present for the last half of 2009. 3rd year: In the middle of 2010 - summer expansion it spiked up high for a month or 2 and then started dropping back down getting close to the same low amount that was present in the last half of 2009. Winter expansion - end of 2010 it spiked up high again and basically hovered for a few months and then continued it's gradual decline til the middle of 2011. That decline once again got close to the low amount that was present for the last half of 2009. 4th year: In the middle of 2011 there was a slight increase for a month or 2 and then continued it's gradual decline til the end of 2011. This time the decline dropped below the low amount that was present in the last half of 2009. Winter expansion - end of 2011 to present day, the amount has climbed back up now to about the same level as it was back in the middle of 2009 which was the end of my first year playing this game.
If you look the sll time one it looks like a steady decline
Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
3570
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Posted - 2012.04.30 12:34:00 -
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Lexmana wrote:DeMichael Crimson wrote:Ai Shun wrote:DeMichael Crimson wrote:Anyway, during the 4 years I've been playing this game I've noticed a decline in the amount of active players on login. I remember back when I started playing this game the average was about 35k during the week and 55k on weekends. Now the average is about 25k a week and 45k on weekends. You are always fond of quoting the summer of rage as the reason for the dip in players. Why not apply that logic to this as well? There is a steady increase in player numbers from 2006 through to the beginning of 2011. A large dip and a slow climb back now that CCP is focusing on core EVE again. Since you decided to overlook what I wrote, I'll repeat it for you again, 'during the 4 years I've been playing....' I'm talking about from the middle of 2008 to present day. Anyway, you got it backwards, there's been short spurts of large growth followed by a long steady decrease in player numbers. Looking at the chart, from the middle of 2008 to the middle of 2009 overall had a continuous steady growth for most of that year. The middle of 2009 is the base reference point showing the longest stretch of time with a steady low amount of players.. Each consecutive growth spurt after that has been short lived but each one has increased in amount compared to the previous growth spurt. Probably due to good advertising, PR work for expansions, word of mouth, etc. Each consecutive growth spurt has been followed with a larger initial drop followed with a steady gradual decrease in numbers bringing it back down around the initial low reference point of 2009. Probably due to various bugs, broken content, people being disillusioned by the PR advertising, etc. Looking at the chart, from 2006 to the middle of 2009 there was definitely steady growth. Middle of 2009 to 2011 it was sporadic and short lived but each one was exponentially larger than the previous one. 2011 overall was definitely a fast steady decline in numbers. So after noticing pcu going up and down and up and down and up and down and up and down and finally up - you conclude it has gone down even though they are up from when you started?
Reality has a strong anti-DeMichael Crimson bias. Once you factor that in, you can see that he's clearly correct. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |

RAP ACTION HERO
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
10
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Posted - 2012.04.30 12:40:00 -
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save the youtube spam for the like and get liked thread you was all mad about wis, now you all mad about wis, sperging on the very devs who are working on it, we are sick of your negativity.
well done CCP, for embracing the great sandbox experiment of Burn Jita, for placing prioritization on fis cus we know burning jita is a whole lot better than wis jita flash mob every-body /dance now. |

Mussaschi
No Wise Guy's Stellar Economy Experts
12
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Posted - 2012.04.30 12:58:00 -
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Guess I need a step by step guide for the posters:
1) please print out the original message and underline every time I said expansion. a) you have marked nothing, go to 2 b) talk to your primary school teacher and ask your money back 2) You think there was no release. a) Please lookup the word release. b) Talk to your middle school teacher and ask your money back 3) You think nothing new and exiting came with the release of 1.6 a) Please read on http://community.eveonline.com/updates/patchnotes.asp (ps. Word released is used there too ) b) Your are entitled to have your own opinion 4) The online averages dropping by ~3000 per day means nothing. a) Having a subscription to average online ratio of about 8, 3000 less means 24000 subscriptions or > 240k $ per month b) if you feel this is nothing, please contact me, I give you the number of my bank account. 5) It is the normal fluctuation or good weather, summer session, new game released ... a) possible, than I find it odd that some cool new stuff won't see some players trying them out 6) time will tell |

THE L0CK
Denying You Access
297
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Posted - 2012.04.30 14:00:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote:The Incursion nerf has worse then decimated numbers at least in HI SEC. I predict AT LEAST a hexi- to pentimation of incursion runners & subscription losses. Dunno if NULL & LO sec will see same losses in incursions yet.
Good, we need less people in highsec. Do you smell what the Lock's cooking? |

Mussaschi
No Wise Guy's Stellar Economy Experts
12
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Posted - 2012.05.06 10:03:00 -
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ps, just an update. Online numbers keep falling with twice the speed normal for this season. Check it for yourself. We soon reach the numbers from last summer of rage, if it goes on like that. |

Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
933
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Posted - 2012.05.06 11:14:00 -
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THE L0CK wrote:DarthNefarius wrote:The Incursion nerf has worse then decimated numbers at least in HI SEC. I predict AT LEAST a hexi- to pentimation of incursion runners & subscription losses. Dunno if NULL & LO sec will see same losses in incursions yet. Good, we need less people in highsec. Amen.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"-á-á-MXZF |

Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
933
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Posted - 2012.05.06 11:17:00 -
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Mussaschi wrote:ps, just an update. Online numbers keep falling with twice the speed normal for this season. Check it for yourself. We soon reach the numbers from last summer of rage, if it goes on like that. CCP have just been on a bot banning spree, its kind of to be expected. Especially since this time the bot bans are on going.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"-á-á-MXZF |
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
6433
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Posted - 2012.05.06 11:44:00 -
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PCUs this year so far. PCUs since incarna. Average populations, all time
Mussaschi wrote:ps, just an update. Online numbers keep falling with twice the speed normal for this season. Check it for yourself. Nope. They're surprisingly stable for being springtime.
TWHC Assistant wrote:He does however miss to mention the seasonal ups and downs. Not that I am denying the influence of Incarna ... I am far from it. Well, the influence of Incarna is very easy to see since the normal seasonal movement during summers is for the numbers to go up slightly GÇö with Incarna, they sank like a rock. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants. |

Grey Stormshadow
draketrain Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
1133
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Posted - 2012.05.06 11:55:00 -
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BeanBagKing wrote:http://i.imgur.com/Zs3hE.jpg
Confirming CCP's new expansions are a horrible idea and players have been leaving the game in... Oh wait, sorry, that was Incarna! People seem to be coming BACK since CCP changed direction....
There is another wincarna waiting behind the door http://i50.tinypic.com/2ez1wz4.jpg
Get |

Sigurd Sig Hansen
Hedion University Amarr Empire
140
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Posted - 2012.05.06 12:27:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:Do you suppose jita ganks and hulkageddon may be compelling empire carebears to take a short break?
Nahhhhhhhhh......
P.S. The monthly and weekly average still looks pretty stable.
Imo they should and will tell them to do so every chance I get.
Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game |

Antisocial Malkavian
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
65
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Posted - 2012.05.06 12:30:00 -
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Lexmana wrote:I'd say more like medium rare. And DMC is a terribad poster.
That explains
DeMichael Crimson wrote: Avoid personal attacks. - Guard
RAP ACTION HERO wrote:DeMichael Crimson wrote: Since you decided to overlook what I wrote, I'll repeat it for you again, 'during the 4 years I've been playing....' I'm talking about from the middle of 2008 to present day.
Anyway, you got it backwards, there's been short spurts of large growth followed by a long steady decrease in player numbers.
Looking at the chart, from the middle of 2008 to the middle of 2009 overall had a continuous steady growth for most of that year. The middle of 2009 is the base reference point showing the longest stretch of time with a steady low amount of players..
Each consecutive growth spurt after that has been short lived but each one has increased in amount compared to the previous growth spurt. Probably due to good advertising, PR work for expansions, word of mouth, etc.
Each consecutive growth spurt has been followed with a larger initial drop followed with a steady gradual decrease in numbers bringing it back down around the initial low reference point of 2009. Probably due to various bugs, broken content, people being disillusioned by the PR advertising, etc.
Looking at the chart, from 2006 to the middle of 2009 there was definitely steady growth. Middle of 2009 to 2011 it was sporadic and short lived but each one was exponentially larger than the previous one. 2011 overall was definitely a fast steady decline in numbers.
hehe a nice summary until you factor in the fact that this guy is all mad about wis.
Man tell him I said OUCH http://www.bioone.org/doi/abs/10.2317/JKES0811.17.1 Bees That Drink Human Tears -- ITS SCIENCE!!! |
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