| Pages: [1] :: one page |
| Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |
Fantasy Desire
   |
Posted - 2009.03.20 17:24:00 -
[1]
Ok, I know if you bring too much through the wh, it'll collapse after the jump, but my question is...
As the wormhole is degrading, will it start to reject jumps by ships that have too much mass? For example:
- the wh is in a critical stage about to collapse
- I grab my freighter and try to jump through
I realize the wh would collapse behind me, but does it still let me jump through with my freighter?
Thanks!
|
Wet Ferret
|
Posted - 2009.03.20 17:26:00 -
[2]
Yes, as long as the ship could normally fit through, then it doesn't matter how much mass allowance is left.
But, yeah. These forums seriously need some indicator that the post has ended and the sig has started. |
Fantasy Desire
|
Posted - 2009.03.20 17:30:00 -
[3]
 Originally by: Wet Ferret
Yes, as long as the ship could normally fit through, then it doesn't matter how much mass allowance is left.
hmm?? what does that mean? certain ships can't go through wormholes? I haven't heard that one. Not saying it isn't true, just saying I hadn't heard that. What ships can't go through worm holes?
|
Dohl Khrensen
Huang Yinglong
|
Posted - 2009.03.20 17:49:00 -
[4]
Motherships, for example, can't go through wormholes. Their mass is simply too big.
Give me a minute to link the dev blog...
|
Murasaki Ryujin
|
Posted - 2009.03.20 18:21:00 -
[5]
WH havew 2 mass related properties;
1) Maximum ship size
2) Total mass transit limit until collapse.
Afaik they are independent.
A goodly number of hi sec WH will not allow a BS to transit (these mostly seem to lead to low class WSpace). Those that do should allow one to transit right up till the moment of colapse. I saw a drake enter and collapse a no BS WH, so it was the biggest ship that WH would take and the WH let a BC go through right up until the end. Of course me and my scout ship had to take the long way home ;)
|
Fantasy Desire
|
Posted - 2009.03.21 12:42:00 -
[6]
Originally by: Murasaki Ryujin
A goodly number of hi sec WH will not allow a BS to transit (these mostly seem to lead to low class WSpace). Those that do should allow one to transit right up till the moment of colapse. I saw a drake enter and collapse a no BS WH, so it was the biggest ship that WH would take and the WH let a BC go through right up until the end. Of course me and my scout ship had to take the long way home ;)
Huh?? So what you're saying is wormholes act like a modified acceleration gate in that it regulates what ships can pass through, and when enough have gone through it collapses?
Hmm, that kind-of contradicts what the others are saying...
|
Miranda Cho
Caldari
Fearghul Corp
The Dominion Empire
|
Posted - 2009.03.21 15:42:00 -
[7]
From my own experiences that's not correct, I'm afraid. When exploring in one of my first wormholes (I'm the scout in a Heron), I was cut off from the rest of my expedition when the exit closed after them. Nothing out of the ordinary there, but THEN I found another wormhole out, tried to jump it, and it closed in front of my face the instant I tried. My current theory is that it's percentage-based, if a wormhole has more than (some percentage, probably half?) of a ship's mass left, it jumps and then closes, if it's got less than whatever that threshold is, it closes and denies the jump.
-Miranda Cho, Fearghul Reconnaissance
|
Norden
|
Posted - 2009.03.23 09:29:00 -
[8]
And WHs are restricted to certain shipclasses (sizes) like normal gates are...
I had an "unexplored" WH the other day...not dangerous, not anything, just unexplored (definately an easier one).
I thought, to be on the safe side, I go in in my domi, but NOT: "your ship is too big to enter the WH". So I had to go in my Ishtar to go through.
So I¦d say: Its nothing else than a modified acceleration gate not letting anything through thats too big.
Norden
|
Jagga Spikes
Minmatar
Sebiestor tribe
|
Posted - 2009.03.23 09:38:00 -
[9]
wormholes are restricted in what ship size they let through. i was in unknown type (easier) and my partner couldn't fit his mega in. he had to come back in drake which did get through.
|
E Prime
|
Posted - 2009.03.23 09:55:00 -
[10]
i've been in wspace for about a week now with my corp. It's a class 1 wspace and so far i could not get my hulk in, tried it with 3 different wh's yet but didnt work.
so wh's are like acceleration gates who define what types of ships can go through (based on max mass of the ship allowed to pass through)
but it doesnt mean that when you enter with a ship that has max mass to enter that it will collapse. i've seen 2 retrievers (= 1 hulk) go through the wh without collapsing it but mu hulk couldnt enter before that.
so my question, is it random what ships can enter through a wh or is it defined lik no bs in a class 1 wspace?
|
Jagga Spikes
Minmatar
Sebiestor tribe
|
Posted - 2009.03.23 10:23:00 -
[11]
Edited by: Jagga Spikes on 23/03/2009 10:24:04
heh, ccp at work
check this numbers:
Retriever
-Mass 20,000 tons
-Volume 150,000 m3 (3,750 m3 packaged)
Hulk
-Mass 40,000 tons
-Volume 200,000 m3 (3,750 m3 packaged)
Drake
-Mass 14,010 tons
-Volume 252,000 m3 (15,000 m3 packaged)
problem is, mass/volume properties were always in function of game balance and not mirroring reality of size. battleships (~1000 meters long) are about 16 times longer than frigates (~60 meters), but have only 5-6 times more cargo space. who wouldn't want to have a BS with 512,000 m3 of cargo? :) (realistically, 16x16x16 times more than frigate, considering both were combat ships; BS might have more space assigned to shields/armor/structure, but frigate has more space to propulsion, leaving same relation to cargo) same thing goes for mass. it was assigned arbitrary values, that weren't based on size, but on game balance requirements.
back to topic: Murasaki Ryujin nailed this one pretty well:
1. maximum mass per ship allowed
2. total mass allowed
|
| |
|
| Pages: [1] :: one page |
| First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |