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Gamel Caldari Just Die Already Just Die Already Alliance	Posted - 2009.03.21 21:14:00 - [1] Hear is the discussion that I had with there rep after I paid them for another week and they dropped their dec half way through. Gamel > hi Gamel > whats up SuperMarine > I told you we couldnt finish the full month contract, and we pulled out mid week because some serious business in our 0.0 home, im sorry that we could not finish it , what should we have done? let our alliance die? Gamel > that is fine but you owe me the ballance that was paid as i have said sence you pullout the contract that seems fair i paid for a week you did half a week so you owe me half the weeks payment i am not respomable for lost ships and stuff we discussed tha Gamel > i totaly understand you had to drop the contract SuperMarine > i wasnt saying you were, i was saying we dont have your isk, and other corporations dont refund half finished contracts Gamel > but you should understand you owen us the half a week payment Gamel > so you defaulted on the contract then dude Gamel > it does not work half way you eather complet the contract or not i contracted you for the week you did half the week i understand why but the flip isd you broke our contract so you owe me the half week if i had called off the war and you then would be i Gamel > inti9lted to keep the isk i did not call off the war you did Gamel > and no honerable merk corp calls off a contract mid way threw man SuperMarine > how many mercenary corporations ahve you worked with? Gamel > 10 to 20 maby SuperMarine > Sorry, we are unable to refund your deposit. Gamel > ok i willl be posting about you then man sorry about that but you did break your word brother SuperMarine > If you fell that is neceserry SuperMarine > we did all we could to keep the wargoing but we wernt able SuperMarine > we apologize, but are unable to offer any type of refund for services that were rendered. SuperMarine > We wish you the best in your endeavors, but are unable to further discuss the matter as on our end it is settled. Total that they owe us is 500,000,000.
ishkabibble Gallente Aztec Industry	Posted - 2009.03.21 21:20:00 - [2] Edited by: ishkabibble on 21/03/2009 21:20:56 This belongs in crime and punishment PS: Im not surprised at all Edit: 1st Always remember that it's never your fault when you lose.Ö
Gamel Caldari Just Die Already Just Die Already Alliance	Posted - 2009.03.21 21:36:00 - [3] Edited by: Gamel on 21/03/2009 21:42:39 Originally by: ishkabibble Edited by: ishkabibble on 21/03/2009 21:20:56 This belongs in crime and punishment PS: Im not surprised at all Edit: 1st hopefully a mod will move it then or ill just repost over there.
Lexa Hellfury Caldari Oedipus Complex	Posted - 2009.03.21 21:43:00 - [4] Edited by: Lexa Hellfury on 21/03/2009 21:44:21 They had to go camp a 0.0 entry gate. Edit: They had to go own a 0.0 entry gate
SodiumCyanide Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.21 21:50:00 - [5] lol contract law itt
Gamel Caldari Just Die Already Just Die Already Alliance	Posted - 2009.03.21 21:56:00 - [6] Originally by: Lexa Hellfury Edited by: Lexa Hellfury on 21/03/2009 21:44:21 They had to go camp a 0.0 entry gate. Edit: They had to go own a 0.0 entry gate this is true but that dose not make it right for them to drop the war and then take all of the pay for it.
Krychton Amarr Cruoris Seraphim Exalted.	Posted - 2009.03.21 23:04:00 - [7] That's a sad situation Gamel, and poor behavior for any Merc corp. I'm sure this will hurt their reputation. Anyway, if you're interested in a more honorable and efficient alliance to finish the contract. Contact me and I'll forward you to the proper Exalted. representatives. I'm sure they'll sympathize with your grief and offer you a discount price. Good luck out there.
Kirex Gallente Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition	Posted - 2009.03.21 23:23:00 - [8] Avarice? They're too busy 0wning da ** out of the NC and taking their space. By that, I mean they camp the EC-P8R/Torrinos gate sometimes and think they're hot ** while smacking the NC on the forums even though they have a higher K/D ratio on their own killboard. v0v
Mystiel Raleigh Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.22 00:44:00 - [9] Wow, that SuperMarine is incompetent. If you don't complete the contract, you don't get to take money for the contract, simple as. Idiot.
Sky Marshal Caldari IMpAct Corp Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2009.03.22 00:59:00 - [10] Well, the short name of their alliance is explicit. Avarice [FAIL] ___________________ EVE "Community" become more like WoW each day, with his fanboy attitude. Simplistic logic, Lazy thinking, No capacity to comprehend same a justified whine...

Asuka Smith Gallente StarHunt Systematic-Chaos	Posted - 2009.03.22 01:02:00 - [11] Wow that chat log pretty much is GG for them ever getting another contract.
Koronos Minmatar Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.	Posted - 2009.03.22 01:36:00 - [12] Originally by: Sky Marshal Well, the short name of their alliance is explicit. Avarice [FAIL] wow. I thought that was a joke intended as smack. It's not. LOL
monomatic Minmatar SwEaTy ArMpIT RaIDeRs The Council.	Posted - 2009.03.22 01:39:00 - [13] they are bad news .. end of discussion
Steelrattty Caldari Altruism. Avarice.	Posted - 2009.03.22 01:54:00 - [14] Originally by: monomatic they are bad news .. end of discussion This.
Monti Reagan Gallente Altruism. Avarice.	Posted - 2009.03.22 01:58:00 - [15] G'day, mate.
monomatic Minmatar SwEaTy ArMpIT RaIDeRs The Council.	Posted - 2009.03.22 01:59:00 - [16] Originally by: Steelrattty Originally by: monomatic they are bad news .. end of discussion This. sod u scott ur a tit and you know it
Steelrattty Caldari Altruism. Avarice.	Posted - 2009.03.22 02:00:00 - [17] Originally by: monomatic Originally by: Steelrattty Originally by: monomatic they are bad news .. end of discussion This. sod u scott ur a tit and you know it C C C C !!!!!!
Alekseyev Karrde Gallente Noir.	Posted - 2009.03.22 06:04:00 - [18] Originally by: Gamel we pulled out mid week because some serious business in our 0.0 home, im sorry that we could not finish it See why non-MC-structured sov holders are intentionally described as "mercs" by the mercenary community. Originally by: Gamel SuperMarine > i wasnt saying you were, i was saying we dont have your isk, and other corporations dont refund half finished contracts Yes some other corporations dont refund half finished contracts. They're called contract-breakers. Advice to OP: Put something in Crime and Punishment as well as it's more mercenary oriented. --- Zombie Apocalypse Guitar-Wielding Superteam
Monti Reagan Gallente Altruism. Avarice.	Posted - 2009.03.22 07:17:00 - [19] Avarice. never has been and never will be a mercenary alliance. We have never accepted any contracts or sought Merc work. What started out as a scam by one of my directors and a member ended up being something else entirely. I heard from Steelrattty, my 2nd in command that they had scammed something like 700m? ish off a gentlemen seeking mercenaries. I told them this was unacceptable, as it could reflect poorly on our alliance name and the money should be returned. I sent Gamel a mail telling him he needed to contact me asap. When he contacted me I got a chance to speak with him, with the intention of returning the isk that was initially given to us. As the conversation progressed and he told me more about his situation, Steel and I took sympathy on him and rather then returning the initial isk declared war on the alliance in question with the intention of teaching them a lesson. I got into the main system of the targets, which we had deduced through intelligence gathering since Gamel was unavailable to provide anything close to concrete regarding the mark and proceeded to bait them into fighting us. This fight resulted in us losing a couple of ships only killing one Ishtar. The week moved on and I involved more of the corporation, not the alliance itself, on the action and we camped the mark into their home base station which was (idiotically enough) a Gallente kickout station. After about 4-5 days of this, we became very bored and logging in was becoming a chore. So I told Super we would take one more week of the payment but be returning to PB by the weekend as we had just had a new corp join the alliance and felt it was important for them to be around their alliance mates, also people were dying more frequently in PB with both of the main alliance FCs in empire. The war-dec terminated after one week as the fees for continuation were never paid. However, during our time with the dec against the alliance 3 of the 7 initial corps in the alliance left. I felt like it was a job well done, though our efficiency against them was atrociously low. I told Steel to deal with Gamel as I was kind of bored of listening to his insane ramblings, I guess Gamel felt cheated or something so he made this post. Newsflash: we really don't care, Gamel. Steel and I both think you are kind of loose in the head, after some of the comments you made about wanting to track "the guy down" in real life even though you never explained what you meant by "the guy". Also, I'd tell you that you can probably drop this obsession with the alliance as they've pretty much imploded, probably with no small part of which being your constant hiring of mercs against them like some psychotic ex-girlfriend out for revenge but I doubt you'd listen. As far as the spectators to this severely uninteresting drama, "calling Avarice out" or whatever I give you this message: we are scumbags. It doesn't bother us, sorry if it bothers you. We won't be losing out on any merc work, because we're not mercs. Mono, you can keep crying about us as you border on fanboy status towards Steelrattty. Remember, we're watching you. Nameless TCF pilot, we killed your freighter and then proceeded to have our spies impersonate your freighter pilot on OWN vent as he told them they were in serious s***. The tears from laughter we shed that night were delicious. Posting in another Avarice thread, Monti <3
S'totan Minmatar Chicks on Speed Avarice.	Posted - 2009.03.22 11:24:00 - [20] Poasting in an avarice thread =)

Ar'tee Amarr DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.22 11:47:00 - [21] You know a CAOD thread is going to be great when.. ..the first word of the OP is already spelled incorrectly.
monomatic Minmatar SwEaTy ArMpIT RaIDeRs The Council.	Posted - 2009.03.22 13:05:00 - [22] can someone please define the meaning of a troll for me please?
Steelrattty Caldari Altruism. Avarice.	Posted - 2009.03.22 16:41:00 - [23] Originally by: Monti Reagan Avarice. never has been and never will be a mercenary alliance. We have never accepted any contracts or sought Merc work. What started out as a scam by one of my directors and a member ended up being something else entirely. I heard from Steelrattty, my 2nd in command that they had scammed something like 700m? ish off a gentlemen seeking mercenaries. I told them this was unacceptable, as it could reflect poorly on our alliance name and the money should be returned. I sent Gamel a mail telling him he needed to contact me asap. When he contacted me I got a chance to speak with him, with the intention of returning the isk that was initially given to us. As the conversation progressed and he told me more about his situation, Steel and I took sympathy on him and rather then returning the initial isk declared war on the alliance in question with the intention of teaching them a lesson. I got into the main system of the targets, which we had deduced through intelligence gathering since Gamel was unavailable to provide anything close to concrete regarding the mark and proceeded to bait them into fighting us. This fight resulted in us losing a couple of ships only killing one Ishtar. The week moved on and I involved more of the corporation, not the alliance itself, on the action and we camped the mark into their home base station which was (idiotically enough) a Gallente kickout station. After about 4-5 days of this, we became very bored and logging in was becoming a chore. So I told Super we would take one more week of the payment but be returning to PB by the weekend as we had just had a new corp join the alliance and felt it was important for them to be around their alliance mates, also people were dying more frequently in PB with both of the main alliance FCs in empire. The war-dec terminated after one week as the fees for continuation were never paid. However, during our time with the dec against the alliance 3 of the 7 initial corps in the alliance left. I felt like it was a job well done, though our efficiency against them was atrociously low. I told Steel to deal with Gamel as I was kind of bored of listening to his insane ramblings, I guess Gamel felt cheated or something so he made this post. Newsflash: we really don't care, Gamel. Steel and I both think you are kind of loose in the head, after some of the comments you made about wanting to track "the guy down" in real life even though you never explained what you meant by "the guy". Also, I'd tell you that you can probably drop this obsession with the alliance as they've pretty much imploded, probably with no small part of which being your constant hiring of mercs against them like some psychotic ex-girlfriend out for revenge but I doubt you'd listen. As far as the spectators to this severely uninteresting drama, "calling Avarice out" or whatever I give you this message: we are scumbags. It doesn't bother us, sorry if it bothers you. We won't be losing out on any merc work, because we're not mercs. Mono, you can keep crying about us as you border on fanboy status towards Steelrattty. Remember, we're watching you. Nameless TCF pilot, we killed your freighter and then proceeded to have our spies impersonate your freighter pilot on OWN vent as he told them they were in serious s***. The tears from laughter we shed that night were delicious. Posting in another Avarice thread, Monti <3 Correction, It was another merc corps scam, and i scammed them into letting me scam Gamel. If i hadnt ... Gamel would not have even gotten 1 and a half weeks of merc's, rather no results at all.
Gamel Caldari Just Die Already Just Die Already Alliance	Posted - 2009.03.22 17:25:00 - [24] Originally by: Steelrattty Originally by: Monti Reagan Avarice. never has been and never will be a mercenary alliance. We have never accepted any contracts or sought Merc work. What started out as a scam by one of my directors and a member ended up being something else entirely. I heard from Steelrattty, my 2nd in command that they had scammed something like 700m? ish off a gentlemen seeking mercenaries. I told them this was unacceptable, as it could reflect poorly on our alliance name and the money should be returned. I sent Gamel a mail telling him he needed to contact me asap. When he contacted me I got a chance to speak with him, with the intention of returning the isk that was initially given to us. As the conversation progressed and he told me more about his situation, Steel and I took sympathy on him and rather then returning the initial isk declared war on the alliance in question with the intention of teaching them a lesson. I got into the main system of the targets, which we had deduced through intelligence gathering since Gamel was unavailable to provide anything close to concrete regarding the mark and proceeded to bait them into fighting us. This fight resulted in us losing a couple of ships only killing one Ishtar. The week moved on and I involved more of the corporation, not the alliance itself, on the action and we camped the mark into their home base station which was (idiotically enough) a Gallente kickout station. After about 4-5 days of this, we became very bored and logging in was becoming a chore. So I told Super we would take one more week of the payment but be returning to PB by the weekend as we had just had a new corp join the alliance and felt it was important for them to be around their alliance mates, also people were dying more frequently in PB with both of the main alliance FCs in empire. The war-dec terminated after one week as the fees for continuation were never paid. However, during our time with the dec against the alliance 3 of the 7 initial corps in the alliance left. I felt like it was a job well done, though our efficiency against them was atrociously low. I told Steel to deal with Gamel as I was kind of bored of listening to his insane ramblings, I guess Gamel felt cheated or something so he made this post. Newsflash: we really don't care, Gamel. Steel and I both think you are kind of loose in the head, after some of the comments you made about wanting to track "the guy down" in real life even though you never explained what you meant by "the guy". Also, I'd tell you that you can probably drop this obsession with the alliance as they've pretty much imploded, probably with no small part of which being your constant hiring of mercs against them like some psychotic ex-girlfriend out for revenge but I doubt you'd listen. As far as the spectators to this severely uninteresting drama, "calling Avarice out" or whatever I give you this message: we are scumbags. It doesn't bother us, sorry if it bothers you. We won't be losing out on any merc work, because we're not mercs. Mono, you can keep crying about us as you border on fanboy status towards Steelrattty. Remember, we're watching you. Nameless TCF pilot, we killed your freighter and then proceeded to have our spies impersonate your freighter pilot on OWN vent as he told them they were in serious s***. The tears from laughter we shed that night were delicious. Posting in another Avarice thread, Monti <3 Correction, It was another merc corps scam, and i scammed them into letting me scam Gamel. If i hadnt ... Gamel would not have even gotten 1 and a half weeks of merc's, rather no results at all. so this is you guys admitting that you do not honor you contracts and scam people that is all that needed to be said.
Requiescat Caldari Celestial Apocalypse death from above..	Posted - 2009.03.22 19:39:00 - [25] Originally by: S'totan Poasting in an avarice thread =) -+- let's break out the shotguns, we're going to town
Saint Shadow Amarr Altruism. Avarice.	Posted - 2009.03.22 21:28:00 - [26] Firstly, and most importantly, I would like to offer my sincere apologies to Gamel for this situation. Those of us who were active with this contract were told that you were satisfied with our performance and that you had considered our obligation had been met. It's no wonder Steel didn't want this made public as it has only agitated tense relations between my pvp wing that operates deeper within nullsec and the wing Steel handles closer/within highsec operations to an even higher level. As a result those pilots who are loyal to xcenon and myself have removed our rolls(after moving our assets) and will be reforming under the flag of the OWN alliance. One of the conditions of us joining was that we be able to accept contracts(though the council does have veto power). I'd like to offer our services to you for half of what you paid to Steel(a sum we didn't see a single isk of) to help you with your situation as well as helping us gain some legitimacy as contract fufillers. Contact me ingame, I hope we can come to an agreement. To Steel: this has been a long time coming. You have hoarded loot for months now. Your greed we could handle, you taking away our reputation we cannot. __________________ 0.0 bound...
Steelrattty Caldari Altruism. Avarice.	Posted - 2009.03.22 23:03:00 - [27] Originally by: Saint Shadow Firstly, and most importantly, I would like to offer my sincere apologies to Gamel for this situation. Those of us who were active with this contract were told that you were satisfied with our performance and that you had considered our obligation had been met. It's no wonder Steel didn't want this made public as it has only agitated tense relations between my pvp wing that operates deeper within nullsec and the wing Steel handles closer/within highsec operations to an even higher level. As a result those pilots who are loyal to xcenon and myself have removed our rolls(after moving our assets) and will be reforming under the flag of the OWN alliance. One of the conditions of us joining was that we be able to accept contracts(though the council does have veto power). I'd like to offer our services to you for half of what you paid to Steel(a sum we didn't see a single isk of) to help you with your situation as well as helping us gain some legitimacy as contract fufillers. Contact me ingame, I hope we can come to an agreement. To Steel: this has been a long time coming. You have hoarded loot for months now. Your greed we could handle, you taking away our reputation we cannot. I too will be splitting from the Avarice. name, i have had enough of loot hoarding and scamming in this alliance, it is no longer profitable. I am going to take my PVP wing and fly under The Council.'s flag, being a renter is very appealing to me. Fly safe, Avarice. Steelratty
Monti Reagan Gallente Altruism. Avarice.	Posted - 2009.03.22 23:09:00 - [28] Is DEFI4NT recruiting?
LOPEZ Caldari HOMELESS. The Shelter	Posted - 2009.03.23 02:06:00 - [29] so.... Avarice owns 0.0 space? that's news to... everyone in eve. Revelation Eclipse
Vasponger Caldari southside project	Posted - 2009.03.23 02:09:00 - [30] Darkness Rising 2.0 new name, same fail

S'totan Minmatar Chicks on Speed Avarice.	Posted - 2009.03.23 03:02:00 - [31] Originally by: Monti Reagan Is DEFI4NT recruiting? OOH! PICK ME PICK ME!
Mograph Caldari SwEaTy ArMpIT RaIDeRs The Council.	Posted - 2009.03.23 15:42:00 - [32] Originally by: Steelrattty I too will be splitting from the Avarice. name, i have had enough of loot hoarding and scamming in this alliance, it is no longer profitable. I am going to take my PVP wing and fly under The Council.'s flag, being a renter is very appealing to me. Fly safe, Avarice. Steelratty BTW we are not renters, we dont pay anyone to live where we do. Not sure where you got this intel, but the spy is misinforming you, maybe you should hire a better one
Steelrattty Caldari Altruism. Avarice.	Posted - 2009.03.23 17:38:00 - [33] Originally by: Mograph Originally by: Steelrattty I too will be splitting from the Avarice. name, i have had enough of loot hoarding and scamming in this alliance, it is no longer profitable. I am going to take my PVP wing and fly under The Council.'s flag, being a renter is very appealing to me. Fly safe, Avarice. Steelratty BTW we are not renters, we dont pay anyone to live where we do. Not sure where you got this intel, but the spy is misinforming you, maybe you should hire a better one I am already paying too many spies... =[
Mograph Caldari SwEaTy ArMpIT RaIDeRs The Council.	Posted - 2009.03.23 19:02:00 - [34] Originally by: Steelrattty I am already paying too many spies... =[ Why pay i do it for free.
night howler Minmatar Night Wolves	Posted - 2009.03.25 02:39:00 - [35] As far as most of the corps. in the "End of the Line Alliance" leaving, that was due to the Night Wolves. We handeled the high sec side of it, and most of the corps where fighting us as Avarice was fighting their way out of a paper bag. Not that we are the best merc. corp out there, I was surprised how fast they all quit. In a 3 week total, the Night Wolves turned a 108 man alliance into 27 with only one loss. I say it's a win. We learned a long time ago, if you can't fulfill the contract, don't take it.
eKuivocal Caldari Balls Deep Inc.	Posted - 2009.03.25 11:46:00 - [36] Originally by: Monti Reagan Is DEFI4NT recruiting? Defy has and will always be a giant fail-train. Their only redeeming factor is their rich, powerful french landlords.
Deacon Iscariut Caldari Coalition of Nations DEFI4NT	Posted - 2009.03.27 01:29:00 - [37] Originally by: eKuivocal Defy has and will always be a giant fail-train. Their only redeeming factor is their rich, powerful french landlords. B-O-O H-O-O Opinions matter Just not yours *Coalition Of Nations* It was the Law of the Sea, they said. Civilization ends at the waterline. Beyond that, we all enter the food chain, and not always right at the top.
Kevin Pulse Amarr Tactical Demise	Posted - 2009.03.27 08:06:00 - [38] Conclusions: - "I told you we couldnt finish the full month contract" wrote Supermarine is translated into "[Avarice. is a] contract-breaker", according to Alekseyev Karrde, Noir.. - "What started out as a scam by one of my directors and a member ended up being something else entirely. I heard from Steelrattty, my 2nd in command that they had scammed something like 700m", wrote Monti Reagan, Avarice., is translated into "The directors of Avarice. are scamming other corporation", thought Kevin Pulse. - "rather then returning the initial isk " wrote Monti Reagan, Avarice., is translated into "Avarice does not uphold any agreement that is concerned with ISK and Avarice. is has no future plans, thought Kevin Pulse. - If you want to join Avarice then "[you will become] very bored and logging in [is] becoming a chore", wrote Monti Reagan, Avarice. - Many Avarice member conclude that "we really don't care [about anything]" wrote Monti Reagan, Avarice.. - "It's no wonder Steel didn't want this made public as it has only agitated tense relations between my pvp wing that operates deeper within nullsec and the wing Steel handles closer/within highsec operations to an even higher level." is translated into "The left hand (0.0 PvP FC) does not know what the right hand does (Empire PvP FC).", thought Kevin Pulse. Kevin Pulse
Monti Reagan Altruism. Avarice.	Posted - 2009.03.27 09:01:00 - [39] ITT Kevin Pulse is completely unaware he's been trolled.
WarmasterDev	Posted - 2009.03.27 15:19:00 - [40] ITT Kevin check you put high lighting words so you can point things out like a little reporter. Good for you. And all the random people rushing to help the poor guy who is paying folk to kill the alliance because the other alliance wouldn't push back. Oh my day at work reading these care bear tears. Its just joyful. Oh joyful Wow I might even discount some customers this afternoon while I laugh out loud Lol

Ravennaa	Posted - 2009.03.28 16:42:00 - [41] Not surprised. Avarice is a bunch of failures that pad their already terrible killboard stats by not posting losses half the time. Just another garbage alliance that will soon be part of EVE history.
S'totan Minmatar Chicks on Speed Avarice.	Posted - 2009.03.28 19:51:00 - [42] Originally by: Ravennaa Not surprised. Avarice is a bunch of failures that pad their already terrible killboard stats by not posting losses half the time. Just another garbage alliance that will soon be part of EVE history. and you are who?
TIM GNARKILL Gnarkill INC	Posted - 2009.03.28 20:41:00 - [43] To the OP: Send us the 500M ISK, we won't even need a contract. ------- Originally by: Misanth Gnarkill got the best sigs on these forums, c/d?
FievelGoesPostal Gallente The Giant Squid Corp.	Posted - 2009.03.28 23:35:00 - [44] Originally by: night howler As far as most of the corps. in the "End of the Line Alliance" leaving, that was due to the Night Wolves. We handeled the high sec side of it, and most of the corps where fighting us as Avarice was fighting their way out of a paper bag. Not that we are the best merc. corp out there, I was surprised how fast they all quit. In a 3 week total, the Night Wolves turned a 108 man alliance into 27 with only one loss. I say it's a win. We learned a long time ago, if you can't fulfill the contract, don't take it. Yeah, thats End of the Lines procedure. They did the same thing, except everyone left pretty much before the war went live when we dec'd them. The ones that stayed liked to die though :) Nice job on the fleet issue kill, btw.
qvq Rancer Defense Farce	Posted - 2009.03.29 13:41:00 - [45] contact me since avarice is fail i'll finish the contract free of charge sad thing is half these guys posting on behalf of their "pvp merc or whatever they wanna call it alliance" i have killed before. anyways contact me in game i'll stop killing the guys you contracted them onto when i get bored anyways. avarice should live in high sec since it is a bunch of carebears c/d?


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