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Thebro Nobrunder
Schrodinger's Renegades
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Posted - 2009.03.22 17:49:00 -
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Does anyone know what the targeting range of sleepers is? I'm not appearing to be having much luck trying to damp them.
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Jacob Holland
Gallente
Weyland-Vulcan Industries
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Posted - 2009.03.22 20:04:00 -
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They have standard NPC insta-infinite range-lock.
RSDs have no effect on them unfortunately...
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Zarya Hakkonen
Hakkonen Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.03.22 20:07:00 -
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I thought the whole point of the improved Sleeper AI was to make PvE more like PvP. Doesn't this pretty much throw that idea out the window?
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Spenz
Gallente
Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.03.22 21:04:00 -
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Originally by: Zarya Hakkonen
I thought the whole point of the improved Sleeper AI was to make PvE more like PvP. Doesn't this pretty much throw that idea out the window?
Well when it comes to RSD's, fighting the sleepers is almost exactly like PVP. RSD's do nothing against sleepers, and do practically nothing against normal players.
See just like pvp.
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Wet Ferret
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Posted - 2009.03.22 21:27:00 -
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Originally by: Zarya Hakkonen
I thought the whole point of the improved Sleeper AI was to make PvE more like PvP. Doesn't this pretty much throw that idea out the window?
Certain EWAR being ineffective against NPCs is something they plan to do but didn't get around to with the release. As of now, I think it's just Sensor Damps and Warp Scramblers, and to a lesser extent NOS. Though NPCs don't warp so scramblers aren't much of an issue, and NOS at least lowers the chance of NPC getting a rep cycle in. So basically just damps that do nothing.
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Wideen
Warped Mining
Strip Mining Club
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Posted - 2009.03.22 21:29:00 -
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Originally by: Spenz
Originally by: Zarya Hakkonen
I thought the whole point of the improved Sleeper AI was to make PvE more like PvP. Doesn't this pretty much throw that idea out the window?
Well when it comes to RSD's, fighting the sleepers is almost exactly like PVP. RSD's do nothing against sleepers, and do practically nothing against normal players.
See just like pvp.
Using a bonused ship this is a misconception but I guess people liked it better when damps were the old ECM (i.e. I-win) where invulnerability mode was nearly guaranteed by bringing a damp ship.
But I agree, sleeper's should be affected by damps as well as any other e-war otherwise it's kinda discriminatory towards gallente ewar (talking specialized ships here)
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Thebro Nobrunder
Schrodinger's Renegades
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Posted - 2009.03.23 15:05:00 -
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When fighting 1 or two opponents in pvp damps can be quite useful. But with sleepers it's generally 6 or more.
But even with only one sleeper you can't damp them effectively.
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