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Churaliya	Posted - 2009.03.23 20:28:00 - [1] I was browsing the market and could only surmise that my next hauler I should purchase would be the Orca? It has 30000m3 by default. The thing is it requires a crapload of skills and costs half a bil! Is there another ship I can upgrade to that I'm missing? It seems weird to go from a 1million isk ship and the next upgrade being 500million.....
Haruka Watanabe	Posted - 2009.03.23 20:37:00 - [2] If you just want maximize cargo space, then you'd have to cross-train to the Gallente Iteron V. Maxed out that has the most space. If you stuck with Amarr ships then you'd be looking at Transport ships, which actually carry less cargo but are far more durable, having things like armor rep bonuses and inherent warp core stabs. The Amarr versions of these are the Impel and the Prorator. They are significantly more expensive than regular Industrials, going for maybe 50 million, but they're worth it for certain tasks. For ultimate cargo space the best value in terms of both skill training time and isk (although they cost like 800 million) is the Freighter class.
Ikserak tai	Posted - 2009.03.23 20:48:00 - [3] Mammoth. Minmatar Industrial Level IV. Prereq is Minmatar Frigate III, you do want to fly that Rifter, don't you? Second only to Iteron V with about a month less training time. With Cargo Expander II's You can fit 5 GSC's (you'll have over 17k m3 empty), giving you an additional 4500m3 capacity. YOU'VE NEVER ROCKED 'TIL YOU'VE UNDOCKED.
Maestro Del'Tirith Space Exploration	Posted - 2009.03.23 20:51:00 - [4] Don't forget to look into possibly applying rigs if necessary.
De'Veldrin Minmatar Special Projects Executive	Posted - 2009.03.23 21:01:00 - [5] I'm surprised no one has mentioned any of the freighters here. The Amarrian freighter, the Providence, has 785,000 m3 stock and maxes out at close to 1,000,000 m3. --Vel There is no right or wrong way. There is only what works and what leaves you waking up in a clone vat.
Seraph Castillon Gallente	Posted - 2009.03.23 21:02:00 - [6] Edited by: Seraph Castillon on 23/03/2009 21:05:07 Edited by: Seraph Castillon on 23/03/2009 21:04:14 The following ship would be a good option. It has 4000m¦ base cargo hold and 7 low slots. Training for it would also get you on your way to a freighter. It would also get you about the same cargo space as the Iteron V in a shorter training time. http://wiki.eveonline.com/wiki/Impel
Tkar vonBiggendorf Gallente Snake Eyes Inc	Posted - 2009.03.23 21:05:00 - [7] Don't forget Transports. You can train up to fly a T2 Bestower, which comes in two varieties: a Blockade Runner - Prorator (less cargo, very agile - warps fast, can fit Cov Ops cloaking device) and a Deep Space Transport - Impel (can hold more than T1 variant, or can fit a beefy tank, has enough PG to fit a MWD as well). Outside of rigged Industrials or Transports, there is a gap up to the Orca and then again to Freighters in terms of hauling capacity. I promise nothingÖ. --CCP Prism X
Joe Appleby Tempered Steel Legion	Posted - 2009.03.23 21:30:00 - [8] Originally by: Haruka Watanabe If you just want maximize cargo space, then you'd have to cross-train to the Gallente Iteron V. Maxed out that has the most space. If you stuck with Amarr ships then you'd be looking at Transport ships, which actually carry less cargo but are far more durable, having things like armor rep bonuses and inherent warp core stabs. The Amarr versions of these are the Impel and the Prorator. They are significantly more expensive than regular Industrials, going for maybe 50 million, but they're worth it for certain tasks. For ultimate cargo space the best value in terms of both skill training time and isk (although they cost like 800 million) is the Freighter class. This. With cargo expander IIs and cargo rig Is you get about 38k m¦, with 12 GSCs, that is just short of 50k m¦, more than any other industrial or transport ship. Transports though are nice for the roles they offer. Blockade Runners with covert ops cloaks being extremely nimble and sneaky, within low sec you can move untouched only to the most determined enemies, hi sec of course as well. Deep Space Transports though offer you 2 inherent warp core stabilizers, bonus to hit points. Add a few other warp core stabilizers to increase the amount of points people will need to stop you, and you have the perfect hi sec war supply ship. Having racial industrial skills to V helps getting into freighters, as you will only need the advanced spaceship command skill and then the racial freighter skill. I got both Caldari and Gallente industrial skills to V.
Seraph Castillon Gallente	Posted - 2009.03.23 22:10:00 - [9] Originally by: Joe Appleby I got both Caldari and Gallente industrial skills to V. Which is, imo, totaly useless ... Training time can be better spent.
Churaliya	Posted - 2009.03.23 22:37:00 - [10] Thanks all, I'll look into the Impel or the Iteron V. Seems like a tossup.... Impel looks nice with its 7 low slots.
Pwett QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony	Posted - 2009.03.23 23:37:00 - [11] Impel Impel Impel She can hold a crap-ton before having to invest large sums of isk in freighters or orcas. _______________ <Q> QUANT Hegemony QUANT is rebuilding, EVE-Mail me for recruitment info. Item Database
Ms Delerium	Posted - 2009.03.23 23:40:00 - [12] I got a rigged Mammoth and hecks I love it. Training time was way faster than for Itty V, while cargospace is 27k+ (9 GSC)
Marcus Gideon Gallente Excessive Force	Posted - 2009.03.23 23:41:00 - [13] I too went for the Bestower and Providence... mainly because the Providence is the only freighter that looks decent. Then I considered the Iteron V, but found that my Hulk training had me pretty much in an Orca anyways. Now my Providence is in mothballs. --- *FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT'S HOLY... READ THE FIRST COUPLE PAGES BEFORE YOU POST YOUR "BRILLIANT, NEVER BEFORE THOUGHT OF" IDEAS!!!*
Rilwar 22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit	Posted - 2009.03.24 01:46:00 - [14] Originally by: Ikserak tai Mammoth. ..... With Cargo Expander II's You can fit 5 GSC's (you'll have over 17k m3 empty), giving you an additional 4500m3 capacity. Try again. More like can fit 9 GSC's for total of 35.1k m3 ---O-H--S-H-I-T---
Tal Kjelthorne Kjelthorne Industries	Posted - 2009.03.24 05:01:00 - [15] Edited by: Tal Kjelthorne on 24/03/2009 05:01:54 Originally by: Churaliya Thanks all, I'll look into the Impel or the Iteron V. Seems like a tossup.... Impel looks nice with its 7 low slots. The Iteron Mark V rigged and filled with expander IIs fits a base 38,433m3 space. It's the single largest highsec (I emphasize that) hauler in EVE. The Impel though and it's cousin the prorator, take the title for largest cargo space for a transport class ship in both deep space transport and blockade runner classes at 27,386m3 and 8,258m3 (unrigged) respectively. The Impel with tech I cargohold optimizations (it only takes 2, unlike the Iteron V with 3) bumps it up to 33,137m3, making it the second largest sub capital hauler. Food for thought. edited for clarity ___________ I reserve the right to be wrong. We the Unwilling Lead by the Unknowing...
GyokZoli Caldari	Posted - 2009.03.24 09:27:00 - [16] Originally by: Tal Kjelthorne Edited by: Tal Kjelthorne on 24/03/2009 05:01:54 Originally by: Churaliya Thanks all, I'll look into the Impel or the Iteron V. Seems like a tossup.... Impel looks nice with its 7 low slots. The Iteron Mark V rigged and filled with expander IIs fits a base 38,433m3 space. It's the single largest highsec (I emphasize that) hauler in EVE. The Impel though and it's cousin the prorator, take the title for largest cargo space for a transport class ship in both deep space transport and blockade runner classes at 27,386m3 and 8,258m3 (unrigged) respectively. The Impel with tech I cargohold optimizations (it only takes 2, unlike the Iteron V with 3) bumps it up to 33,137m3, making it the second largest sub capital hauler. Food for thought. edited for clarity Actually, it is 36,219 m3 [Impel, cargo] Expanded Cargohold II Expanded Cargohold II Expanded Cargohold II Expanded Cargohold II Expanded Cargohold II Expanded Cargohold II Expanded Cargohold II 10MN Afterburner II Small Tractor Beam I Cargohold Optimization I Cargohold Optimization I
Anrand	Posted - 2009.03.24 11:15:00 - [17] Check out the link on my thread about this very subject, the layouts will be updated later today to include Transports and Industrial Command Ships (Orca, Rorqual) If your thinking of using a ship in a small fleet and you want to train up your leadership skills I can thoroughly recomment the Orca as the bonuses it gives to mining are imense. Also maxed out, with lvl V in Industrial Command Ships trained you are looking at 182,351.313m3 Cargo Space. Dont forget that the Orca also has a Corp Hanger of 40,000m3 and you can fit GSC's. On max fittings you can get 33 GSC's in the cargohold and another 13 within the Corp Hanger. One thing to nope though is that you cannot directly add to GSC's within the Corp Hanger and have to swap them out for the ones in you normal Hanger, just jetison one, and rearange them.
ingenting 20th Legion	Posted - 2009.03.24 14:30:00 - [18] Originally by: Haruka Watanabe Transport ships, which actually carry less cargo WRONG _________________ - "Welcome to EVE, remember to insu BAAOOM... Told you, newb."
RaTTuS BIG Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2009.03.24 14:33:00 - [19] Haulers and stuff -- BIG Lottery, BIG Deal, InEve
Ikserak tai	Posted - 2009.03.24 16:41:00 - [20] Originally by: Rilwar Originally by: Ikserak tai Mammoth. ..... With Cargo Expander II's You can fit 5 GSC's (you'll have over 17k m3 empty), giving you an additional 4500m3 capacity. Try again. More like can fit 9 GSC's for total of 35.1k m3 That's if you rig the SOB, I know, I've got one. The difference is at least 90m for the rigs, essentially increasing the OP's invesment by a factor of 90. I also could have quoted the t1 rigged version or the t2 if we really want to blow some Isk. I got the inkling the OP wanted some reasonable options within the normal industrial cost range. YOU'VE NEVER ROCKED 'TIL YOU'VE UNDOCKED.

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