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Diiaboliica
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Posted - 2009.03.27 18:44:00 -
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okay, i'm grinding up standing to run some lvl 5's and I want to do them solo (or actually i'll be dual boxing with a logistics) and the problem i've encountered is i'm having major hard time finding info on them...from the SS's i've seen thus far of some lvl 5's they don't look anywhere near as difficult as some 0.0 unknowns i've done, except for the nuet's.
so my question is does anyone know how much those silly nuet batterys actually nuet for?
my thinking was to fit a golem w/ a active tank and use the logi w/ like 3 lrg energy transfers and 2 large shield...or something along those lines...
it seems like I could tank a drake without any problem but it would take forever any suggestions from anyone would be GREAT...thanks
I have BS 5 for gallente, amarr, and caldari so if anyone has a better idea please share
the only thing I ask is you keep is sheild as my logi alt can only use the basilisk atm.
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Salizar Amolkshue
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Posted - 2009.03.27 19:09:00 -
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 Originally by: Diiaboliica
from the SS's i've seen thus far of some lvl 5's they don't look anywhere near as difficult as some 0.0 unknowns i've done, except for the nuet's.
so my question is does anyone know how much those silly nuet batterys actually nuet for?
4 heavy neut towers will drain your cap completely in seconds, seriously. They are absolutely vicious. Don't depend on the golem's active tank at all, when it draws aggro from the towers the only thing repairing it's shields will be the logistics. Fit for more shield transfers instead and accept the fact that the golem is going to have zero cap. Good thing it can keep firing missiles anyway...
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Liadan Khanum
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Posted - 2009.03.27 19:16:00 -
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Would a Golem have much of an advantage over a standard raven here? OK a bit of extra damage, and some shield resists (which could be critical) but all the rest of its bonuses are based on something active.
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Terminus Vindictus
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.03.27 19:46:00 -
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Originally by: Diiaboliica
...from the SS's i've seen thus far of some lvl 5's they don't look anywhere near as difficult as some 0.0 unknowns i've done, except for the nuet's.
That's like saying "I don't see any difference in L5's other than the fact that I'll lose my Golem, but other than that it's the same as 0.0 plexes"...
The neuts ARE the difference, and you'll get dead fast because of them even in a Golem. Try a passive Rattlesnake instead with your logi, or better yet take a passive Vulture/NH on your second account and use them as combat tank while you fly your Golem for DPS. The CSs can take the damage AND dish out some of their own, whereas your logi doesn't do anything aside from helping you tank.
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Qui Shon
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Posted - 2009.03.27 19:48:00 -
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Edited by: Qui Shon on 27/03/2009 19:50:39
Neut I is 10/s
Neut II is 20/s
Neut III is 40/s
Neut I's and II's pop pretty easily, but III's take a while.
The Drone Neut III's for example have the following effective hitpoints
EM97600
Exp74044
Kin73067
Th74985
Usually you'll get 2x III's, or 2-3x II's + 1x III, or 4+ of I's and II's.
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Contralto
SarCrat Industrie's
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Posted - 2009.03.27 22:15:00 -
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I use a Passive Vulture with a shield harmonizing warfare link which gives you another 25,875% to all resists if the pilots has max skills and the shield Mindlink,
A sig radius warfare link can help offset the Passive tanks sig penalty.
This effectively makes the ship invulnerable to any mission room full aggro.
I took my Vulture into a Caldari mission with an Em Hardener by mistake, took full aggro with Shields at 50%. Ofc Cap was at zero 20 seconds after warp in.
With a single passive hardener (of the correct type) I rarely see shields below 75% even with all the triggers activated.
Main in a Marauder with just enough tank to warp out if it gets spawn aggro. BS could make do (slowly) on all but the carrier missions.
If the Vulture pilot has low skills it can be helped by a set of medium shield transfer drones and/or a medium transporter or two on the Marauder.
If you get the Carrier mission you will be glad of the extra Dps from the Vultures missiles and light drones. It takes forever to take it down even with a maxed out kronos with gank fit.
I haven't tried the Drake since moving to lvl V's but I reckon it could manage with good skills and the warfare link plus a bit of help from the damage dealers shield transfer.
The key to success would be to accurately manage the triggers.
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Dreamwalker
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Posted - 2009.03.28 00:36:00 -
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I have been playing around with this setup, two golems with each equipped with 2 T2 energy transfer mods, works pretty good.
Now for a tried and true setup, bait ship passive shield Onyx or Boardsword, Golem with a single T2 shield transfer mod. Have the bait ship orbit the golem for the damage reduction(yes 95 resist isn't going to save the ship alone). Golem can be fitted with cruise or Torps, I use cruise but I have been playing around with a torp setup (I did wipe with this setup last time I used it). The T2 cruiser is a smaller fast and better resist than the Nighthawk so its why I switch depending on which group I'm attack.
But the Minmatar missions I still haven't been able to break with two accounts. Alpha on the broadsword is just too much as a warp the golem in behind it, first time I lost the broadsword then the golem, second time just the broadsword. But the cruiser/Golem runs the drone and Kin damage missions like a dream, clearing the sites in 20-30 mins with loot; I have a person that salvages so I don't keep the ships in space.
If you know of a good ship type for use against Minmatar please tell me as I'm really having bad luck against them. They owe me like 3 billion isk!!!
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Contralto
SarCrat Industrie's
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Posted - 2009.03.28 02:00:00 -
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Thanks for the heads up! I have yet to get an Angel Mission so hadn't bothered to check, I am maxing out at 1,775 dps for explosive vs 3,400K for Kinetic. I would have also have lost a Bill or two if I had waltzed in there unprepared.
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Qui Shon
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Posted - 2009.03.28 15:51:00 -
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What Minnie mission was that?
I've only done Oust against Minnie, where the same Golem I use for the latter two of the three part Rogue Drones one worked just fine.
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Dreamwalker
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Posted - 2009.03.28 16:43:00 -
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Originally by: Qui Shon
Edited by: Qui Shon on 28/03/2009 16:02:42
What Minnie mission was that?
I've only done Oust against Minnie, where the same Golem I use for the latter two of the three part Rogue Drones one worked just fine, being boosted with a cap transfer and one or two shield transfers.
Codename: Redress
Warp in and you have web towers which if you pop turn into neut 3 towers. Then you warp into the second space and you get alpha damage that had popped my Onyx, my Broadsword and my golem. I'm thinking I will need a third account as a booster to run this mission. So far I have not been able to clear this second level but I see a gate so I know there will be another level after this.
I'm done taking this mission as I just haven't been able to finish it.
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Diiaboliica
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Posted - 2009.03.28 18:06:00 -
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hey THANKS for all the info guys,
seems i'm steping away from the basilisk and starting training for a nighthawk with my alt....
until then I suppose a drake should be good enough and just use a utility high on the paladin or golem to fit a transfer and fit gank.
like one of you said I suppose managing the triggers is the key. 
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