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Typo91
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Posted - 2009.03.28 07:33:00 -
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This is a recording from out teamspeak server of our very own Corp-mate enlighting us on the most critical way to increase your FPS in EVE.
You may wish to note that "StealthRambo" is the one you hear giving us this earth shattering advice! Be sure to thank him for the FPS increase you will receive from his knowledge!
The Teamspeak recording on YouTube
ENJOY THE FPS!!!!!
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bnogo
Caldari
Omega Fleet Enterprises
Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2009.03.28 07:35:00 -
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you are mean. and meaner for posting on forums. and thanks for the chuckles.
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Gromilia
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Posted - 2009.03.28 07:53:00 -
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Typo91 you are crazy it was so funny i was about to fall off my chair. Guys have a listen to it 
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Siigari Kitawa
Gallente
The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2009.03.28 08:01:00 -
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That is actually true for some games, however I do not know if EVE is affected.
If you suffer from a slow connection, some times your framerate will take a hit. I don't know why, but I have experienced this in other games.
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Pr1ncess Alia
Caldari
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.03.28 08:05:00 -
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 Originally by: Siigari Kitawa
That is actually true for some games, however I do not know if EVE is affected.
If you suffer from a slow connection, some times your framerate will take a hit. I don't know why, but I have experienced this in other games.
no.
just... just stop
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ls pos
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.03.28 08:51:00 -
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Edited by: ls pos on 28/03/2009 08:56:37
Originally by: Pr1ncess Alia
Originally by: Siigari Kitawa
That is actually true for some games, however I do not know if EVE is affected.
If you suffer from a slow connection, some times your framerate will take a hit. I don't know why, but I have experienced this in other games.
no.
just... just stop
Siigari is right tho.. The early Battlefield series, bf1942, bf vietnam and even BF2 could have some frames per sec issues when u were playing online. When u playing single player vs bots all was running well, but when going online ur fps could plummit to unplayable levels. Dunno why.. Prolly poor programming..
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Typo91
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Posted - 2009.03.28 09:02:00 -
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Originally by: ls pos
Siigari is right tho.. The early Battlefield series, bf1942, bf vietnam and even BF2 could have some frames per sec issues when u were playing online. When u playing single player vs bots all was running well, but when going online ur fps could plummit to unplayable levels. Dunno why..
I think i know... probably that low quality net cable.
Upgrade that and your fine. matter of fact, if you dont spend at least $100 bucks on your 15foot cable, your probably losing your FPS to lag.
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Iria Ahrens
Amarr
101st Space Marine Force
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.03.28 10:01:00 -
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When refilling the liquid crystal display for its yearly maintenance, I think Powerthirst is a better than using a glass of water.
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Nobody expects the Amarr Inquisition!
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DaxSnake
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Posted - 2009.03.28 10:55:00 -
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Edited by: DaxSnake on 28/03/2009 10:59:46
i know this is a joke but.
Ive always noticed, in tranq, i get like 50 - 60 fps
but on Singularity i get 60 - 78 fps
theres less people in singularity clogging up the server.
this is only existant with a crappy processor like mine.
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Illwill Bill
Svea Rike
INTERDICTION
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Posted - 2009.03.28 11:05:00 -
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Damn, I simply couldn't listen to all of it; it's too horrible! 
Originally by: CCP Zulupark
WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU?
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Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2009.03.28 11:11:00 -
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Even for simple applications like SSH there is a decent reduction in latency between dial-up and ADSL2+. Whether lower latency affects FPS is up to the game. I know FPS for SSH goes up incredibly with higher bandwidths, not that I really care if the 20MB executable gets catted to my screen faster when I forget the ".c" extenstion...
The guy trying to take the **** isn't actually that far off when making the statement about the last mile being the greatest bottleneck - where last mile is the ADSL/ADSL2 between the ISP and your home.
When taking the ****, make sure you don't accidentally trip over the facts ;)
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Ctica
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Posted - 2009.03.28 11:14:00 -
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With corp mates like these who needs enemys.
You guys are ****ing ********s.
He was just trying to be helpful ffs. Instead of just saying "no your wrong" and telling him, you have to try to be smartarses and have a laugh at his expense. Grow up.
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Gambit Stryder
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Posted - 2009.03.28 11:17:00 -
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I feel kinda bad for the guy, though.
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Illwill Bill
Svea Rike
INTERDICTION
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Posted - 2009.03.28 11:26:00 -
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Originally by: Mara Rinn
Even for simple applications like SSH there is a decent reduction in latency between dial-up and ADSL2+. Whether lower latency affects FPS is up to the game. I know FPS for SSH goes up incredibly with higher bandwidths, not that I really care if the 20MB executable gets catted to my screen faster when I forget the ".c" extenstion...
The guy trying to take the **** isn't actually that far off when making the statement about the last mile being the greatest bottleneck - where last mile is the ADSL/ADSL2 between the ISP and your home.
When taking the ****, make sure you don't accidentally trip over the facts ;)
Agreed; however, using cat6 cables at home won't affect your FPS to any greater extent, will it?
Originally by: CCP Zulupark
WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU?
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Undeniable Existence
Questionable Practices
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Posted - 2009.03.28 11:28:00 -
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Mean bro, really mean....
Laughed the whole length of the audio, good job recording it :)
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Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2009.03.28 11:55:00 -
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Originally by: Illwill Bill
Agreed; however, using cat6 cables at home won't affect your FPS to any greater extent, will it?
Depends on what you were using before. I've seen plenty of cables that handle 10Mbps just fine, but give >60% packet loss at 100Mpbs. Or cables that work fine until one day they lose conductivity for whatever reason, on 1 of 8 conductors.
Again, there's the matter of how much the FPS is affected by latency or packet loss.
But I do agree with the original poster that the guy didn't seem know what he was talking about. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and assume that the words "Cat 6" came out of his mouth because he was thinking of "cable" versus "dialup" internet, and you plug into cable with Cat5 or Cat6 patches don't you?
Okay, drawing a long bow there.
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Ivy Scorn
Amarr
Nethro Ore Conglomerate
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Posted - 2009.03.28 11:57:00 -
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KillerNIC
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Illwill Bill
Svea Rike
INTERDICTION
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Posted - 2009.03.28 12:12:00 -
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Originally by: Mara Rinn
60% packet loss at 100Mpbs.
Ok, in that case, yes! I've never seen that much packet loss on a cat5 cable unless it's been damaged. 
Originally by: CCP Zulupark
WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU?
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Hanzo Kastanzah
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Posted - 2009.03.28 12:38:00 -
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Edited by: Hanzo Kastanzah on 28/03/2009 12:38:15
I hope you got his permission too post this. Its illegal to make and store recordings of peoples voices without thier permission.
(Hence why they put that message on the answer phones of companys saying, "This conversation may be recorded blah blah blah")
In fact im sure that he has grounds for a law suit here. Especially considering the potentiol damage you may have done to his IT career.
Was funny tho :P
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JimBob666
Minmatar
Solstice Systems Development Concourse
Aggression.
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Posted - 2009.03.28 12:51:00 -
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I put a glass of ice water in my pc case, but it didnt increase my FPS, what am i doing wrong?
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Sabrin Kulu
Caldari
Shadowed Lords
Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2009.03.28 13:02:00 -
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This is -the- best thing I have heard all week.
Thanks for sharing :)
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Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2009.03.28 14:00:00 -
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Originally by: Ivy Scorn
KillerNIC
KillerNIC is to EEPro as EEPro is to RealTek 8139 :)
Less context switching on an 8086 based PC = more processor time left for shoving graphics around the bus.
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Korizan
Oort Cloud Industries
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Posted - 2009.03.28 14:20:00 -
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Edited by: Korizan on 28/03/2009 14:20:59
Funny I must admit.
But
CAT3 - 10 MBps (Ethernet)
CAT5 - 100 MBps (Fast Ethernet)
CAT6 - 1000 MBps (Gigabit Ethernet)
And as others have stated you are only as fast as your slowest link.
So as all new computer run 1GBps cards running CAT6 between them is a good choice.
However if your cable modem is running 100MBps or fast Ethernet running CAT5 to it is perfectly fine.
Now if are running between two Gigabyte routers and/or computers and you run CAT5 you MAY have issues.
If you do then upgrading to CAT6 would be advisable.
Keep in mind that the length of the run and what the cable comes near to may effect performance.
Power and florescent light can inject noise on the line let alone other digital signals.
Also do not fold Ethernet cable roll it.
Putting sharps bends or creases in the cable can cause more problems then anything else.
And if you are making the cable there are different connectors for solid core and stranded core Ethernet.
If you can't seem to make a reliable connector most likely you have the wrong ones.
PAH this post is getting too long but you all get the idea.
Just pay attention to what you are doing and you will be fine.
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Kewland Ozom
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Posted - 2009.03.28 14:39:00 -
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So, if you consider your corp-mate to be stupid (or at least stupid enough to ridicule him publicly) why do you keep him in the corp?
Also, isn't your TS private material? (I don't know, just want to know.)
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JitaBum
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2009.03.28 15:17:00 -
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Nerd humour 
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Skillzero
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.03.28 15:33:00 -
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Edited by: Skillzero on 28/03/2009 15:33:08
Edited by: Skillzero on 28/03/2009 15:32:50
Originally by: Typo91
This is a recording from out teamspeak server of our very own Corp-mate enlighting us on the most critical way to increase your FPS in EVE.
You may wish to note that "StealthRambo" is the one you hear giving us this earth shattering advice! Be sure to thank him for the FPS increase you will receive from his knowledge!
The Teamspeak recording on YouTube
ENJOY THE FPS!!!!!
Thankyou so much for this.. I will be heading out and buying some cat18 cable.. Once again thanks!
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Alina Zalo
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Posted - 2009.03.28 22:50:00 -
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Amazing how gullable people are.
You present them with 2 options,
1) cat6e cables effect FPS
2) cat6e have nothing to do with your FPS (provided your network is already in working order)
and invariably people always choose the magical answer
people have been believing in magic for thousands of years, why stop now?? Tomorrow is Sunday and a lot of them will be at church, then come home to their shinny KillerNIC and play some games.
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Spurty
Caldari
Amok.
Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.03.28 23:06:00 -
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ah it all makes sense now@
Originally by: Butter Dog
I think you'll find that 10 seconds > 1 month
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Rramar Claime
Amarr
Task Force Zener
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.03.28 23:43:00 -
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The guy who laughs in the mic ruined it :(
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Dread Phantom
Caldari
End Game.
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Posted - 2009.03.29 00:05:00 -
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Slow cables ftl
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Jack Light
legion syndicate
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Posted - 2009.03.29 00:27:00 -
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Edited by: Jack Light on 29/03/2009 00:28:45
Haha that made me laugh
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Cherybol
Caldari
Es and Whizz
Hedonistic Imperative
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Posted - 2009.03.29 07:34:00 -
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I heard putting a K&N air filter on your ship gives you a 20DPS increase.
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Phantom Slave
JUDGE DREAD Inc.
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Posted - 2009.03.29 08:05:00 -
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He's partially right. Back in the day the Half-Life engine would receive a higher framerate from a faster net connection, because the data to draw on screen was directly connected to your net connection. If it took longer for the data to be received it would slow down your FPS. They patched it a long time ago when they added Netcode 2 (I think that was the name of it).
Many games in the past have had the same issue. Eve is not one of them. The Graphics engine doesn't rely on the data it receives to begin rendering, it just renders what information it has, and adds more data to it afterwards.
It was hilarious listening to you guys laughing at him though. He's just misinformed.
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AkRoYeR
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.03.29 09:52:00 -
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Gooff Stud.
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Marrrk
Vanquish Inc
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Posted - 2009.03.29 10:49:00 -
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Originally by: Korizan
Edited by: Korizan on 28/03/2009 14:20:59
Funny I must admit.
But
CAT3 - 10 MBps (Ethernet)
CAT5 - 100 MBps (Fast Ethernet)
CAT6 - 1000 MBps (Gigabit Ethernet)
And as others have stated you are only as fast as your slowest link.
So as all new computer run 1GBps cards running CAT6 between them is a good choice.
However if your cable modem is running 100MBps or fast Ethernet running CAT5 to it is perfectly fine.
Now if are running between two Gigabyte routers and/or computers and you run CAT5 you MAY have issues.
If you do then upgrading to CAT6 would be advisable.
Keep in mind that the length of the run and what the cable comes near to may effect performance.
Power and florescent light can inject noise on the line let alone other digital signals.
Also do not fold Ethernet cable roll it.
Putting sharps bends or creases in the cable can cause more problems then anything else.
And if you are making the cable there are different connectors for solid core and stranded core Ethernet.
If you can't seem to make a reliable connector most likely you have the wrong ones.
PAH this post is getting too long but you all get the idea.
Just pay attention to what you are doing and you will be fine.
Good advice but technically your table is wrong as cat5 and 5e are both gigabit compliant.
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Unbowed Ash
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2009.03.29 10:52:00 -
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Thats it - Im off to buy CAT 6e cable, or was it 6a 
Hell it might even give me better performance in Crysis - you never know 
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Cadde
Gallente
Gene Works
Initiative Associates
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Posted - 2009.03.29 11:13:00 -
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Quite simply put...
When the application is waiting for data to be received it takes away cycles that could be used for drawing routines on the CPU. These days most graphics are handled GPU side so that's not an issue. But if the application NEED to receive a certain type of data BEFORE it calls a drawing then YES. The effective FPS can drop.
Eve is a crappy game in that respect that it doesn't handle IO in a "seamless" fashion and that is why you can "feel" lag affecting your FPS.
However, changing from Cat 5 to Cat 6 will in most cases NOT change a thing. Unless your current cable is ****ty/damaged to a point where it causes packet loss.
My opinions belong to me, you can't have them!
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StealthRambo
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Posted - 2009.03.29 18:22:00 -
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eh that what i get from sleep deprivation, and a caffeine high lol after listening 2 it i totally realized how stupid i sound and how badly i tripped myself lol...
anyway no i change all my network cabling from cat5 not 5e but 5 to cat6a (augmented) they don't make 6e... wiki article i bought these to increase my home networks computer to computer transfer speeds to and from my file server.
after having change all fo them cable from my router to my gateway, and from my gateway to my hub, and my hub to my server and 2 other pc's i rebooted my router and pcs.
my frame rate in eve on not average which only recived a gain of maybe 5 i got a gain of about 20 fps i don't use a killer nic mainly because i never noticed a difference using one. but making that small change helped.
length means nothing on less your talking about phone cord if this still applies now like it did back when dial up was the crazy where the longer the phone cord the more connection issues you had. but i don't think that applies anymore i mean i have router, fax, and direct tv all plugged in line jack with a two sided filter and a spliter which has no affect
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Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2009.03.29 18:40:00 -
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Originally by: Cherybol
I heard putting a K&N air filter on your ship gives you a 20DPS increase.
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StealthRambo
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Posted - 2009.03.29 18:43:00 -
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Edited by: StealthRambo on 29/03/2009 18:46:41
Edited by: StealthRambo on 29/03/2009 18:46:04
P.S. i deserved this lol
cat 5/5e 100mhz 100 Mbit
cat 6 250mhz
cat 6a 500mhz
cat 7 600mhz
cat 7a 1000mhz (in production?) 40 Gbit
will edit as i find the info for speeds
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Casimer Kain
Gallente
KnightRiders
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Posted - 2009.03.29 21:21:00 -
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ok so I put the cable on top of my computer, now what?
does it need to be out of the packaging?
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Tyrria Norgana
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Posted - 2009.03.29 22:10:00 -
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Ok so what if I put the Ethernet cable through lemons? Will they act as nodes and boost my electron speed?
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Asuka Smith
Gallente
StarHunt
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Posted - 2009.03.29 22:16:00 -
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Dear internet lawyers, there is no reasonable expectation of privacy on the internet.
That is all.
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