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Terranid Meester Tactical Assault and Recon Unit	Posted - 2009.03.28 20:31:00 - [1] Within certain limits. For example you can currently evade CONCORD, with Black ops ships by jumping to low sec. I think that, being able to gank someone in high sec and then being able to cyno to low sec should be fair game. Black ops are not all that common, and if somehow you get tackled, its game over. With wormholes, I think raids into empire space should be possible and allow you to jump back through. Now this might mean that players would have to start policing, themselves. They would deduce that if a black ops ship didn't attack them then it, is possible that a wormhole in the system, is responsible so they scan it out and destroy the pirates/whateveryouliketocallthem. CONCORD evasion should not be an offence in certain situations. Other ways of evasion should not be possible apart from black ops and wormhole evasion.
Drake Draconis Minmatar Shadow Cadre Worlds End Consortium	Posted - 2009.03.28 20:43:00 - [2] I Don't know whether to cry at the insanity... or to laugh uncontrollably. ========================= CEO of Shadow Cadre http://www.shadowcadre.com =========================
Imertu Solientai	Posted - 2009.03.28 21:34:00 - [3] I fully support this. This is what is needed to make missions more fun
Isaac Starstriker Amarr Solaris Operations	Posted - 2009.03.28 23:14:00 - [4] Just.....just.....no.....no way....in hell.... --Isaac Isaac's Haul*Mart
Kushion Anti Sweden Defense Force Virtue of Selfishness	Posted - 2009.03.28 23:45:00 - [5] Using black ops to evade concord is a bannable offense. Using ANY method to evade concord is a bannable offense.
Herschel Yamamoto Bloodmoney Incorporated	Posted - 2009.03.29 00:33:00 - [6] You're under the impression here that Concord is New Eden's police force. It's not. It's the Carebear Defence League - if you shoot a bear(one that isn't stupid enough to re-flip a can or similar, at least), Concord comes to smack you around. It's not supposed to be balanced, it's not supposed to be fair, it's supposed to be a deterrent backed up by the banhammer, such that the bulk of Eve's user base can play the game in relative peace. And that will never, ever change. Get used to it. ----- Bloodmoney Incorporated is recruiting!
Vaal Erit Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2009.03.29 01:45:00 - [7] Good god no. Originally by: CCP Whisper So you're going to have to do some actual thinking with regards to hull components and their capabilities instead of copying some cookie-cutter setup. Cry some more.
Vitrael Reaper Industries Eternal Rapture	Posted - 2009.03.29 01:58:00 - [8] I value pew pew as much as anybody in this game and maybe more, but I still groan every time I see I "get rid of CONCORD" thread. I realize this is not precisely what you're proposing, but the bottom line is CONCORD exists for a very important purpose. Just because you need to get your pew pew fix doesn't mean we should be able to evade CONCORD. If you part non-consenting, under prepared riff raff from their ships, just go to W-space. -----
Inda Bak	Posted - 2009.03.29 07:20:00 - [9] CCP makes industry a full-time training job. Someone who really wants to explore the industry side cannot train the skills to keep up with a pirate. You want to remove their protection just so you can have easier access to easy targets. You wouldn't happen to own a van that likes to sit outside elementary schools do you?
NereSky Gallente Domination. PuPPet MasTers	Posted - 2009.03.29 13:56:00 - [10] I remember a long time a go it was possible to outrun concorde (specially when ur mine exploded in 0.0 whilst you were out and about) however it was decided that breaking concorde rules was punishable by a ship loss and it has become a exploit if this was somehow advoided, i fully agree with the current mechanics and do not support the op
chatgris Quantum Cats Syndicate	Posted - 2009.03.29 21:41:00 - [11] Hell no
Malthros Zenobia	Posted - 2009.03.29 22:13:00 - [12] ITT: OP doesn't grasp the concept of CONCORD's WTFPWN setup. How about CONCORD pods and can nullify your clone contract in empire corp stations? Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
Roymundo Caldari Royal Enterprise Sc0rched Earth	Posted - 2009.03.29 23:05:00 - [13] not supporting this. HIGH SECURITY SPACE!!!! it is high security for a reason. namely the protection of law abiding citizens. those who break high sec laws get punished if caught, just like in real life. if you want pew pew, then stay in low sec/null sec or declare an empire war.
De'Veldrin Minmatar Special Projects Executive	Posted - 2009.03.30 00:52:00 - [14] Evading CONCORD is actually very easy. You just don't go into systems where they patrol. Problem solved. --Vel Originally by: Tachyon Shade Idealism is what precedes experience. Cynicism is what follows it.
Tesseract d'Urberville Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord	Posted - 2009.03.30 14:08:00 - [15] Absotively posilutely not, and this is exactly why: Originally by: Inda Bak CCP makes industry a full-time training job. Someone who really wants to explore the industry side cannot train the skills to keep up with a pirate. You want to remove their protection just so you can have easier access to easy targets. Carebears rely on the rule of law to run the supply side of EVE's economy, because by and large they can't rely on themselves, ESPECIALLY when they're working in space in ships fitted for industrial tasks. --------------------------------- Thomas Hardy is going to eat your brains.
Terranid Meester Tactical Assault and Recon Unit	Posted - 2009.03.30 17:55:00 - [16] Originally by: Inda Bak You wouldn't happen to own a van that likes to sit outside elementary schools do you? Yes. While in it I keep a sniper rifle handy and practise satanic rituals. I also think CONCORD should be more easily defeated but changed so they are more like sleepers (this info is the worst of them all...shudder).
De'Veldrin Minmatar Special Projects Executive	Posted - 2009.03.30 19:48:00 - [17] You are still operating under the mistaken delusion that CONCORD can be defeated. I believe it's actually been said somewhere else by one of the CCP folks that if you can figure out how to beat CONCORD, it's an exploit and bannable. Besides, I already told you how to avoid them. What more do you want? --Vel Originally by: Tachyon Shade Idealism is what precedes experience. Cynicism is what follows it.
Jason Edwards Internet Tough Guy	Posted - 2009.03.31 12:14:00 - [18] lol. so you figured out a couple ways to evade them. Meh. So basically you want to make a system where you can kill someone in highsec. They cant even see you coming. While taking no losses at all? You know there's an exploit. Where you essentially have a person accepted into a corp. While they are basically in warp and about to drop in on a group of people. Or have the gang log out where you know the camp will be. Accept their apps. Log in at the same time. Etc etc. All these are considered exploits. Gms have made posts saying they are exploits. Why do you think your exploit is better then any other exploit? ------------------------ To make a megathron from scratch, you must first invent the eve universe. ------------------------ Life sucks and then you get podded.
Khandara Seraphim StarHunt Systematic-Chaos	Posted - 2009.03.31 21:34:00 - [19] I wouldn't mind seeing the black ops exploit get legitimized. I mean, dropping over a billion isk on a gank ship that has a very good chance of not surviving long enough to jump out is both 1.) awesome and 2.) very risky. I don't see the problem, frankly. If you lose your hulk to a black ops, get another one and mine in the same system with a cloaked friend in fleet with tackle nearby. Next time he tries it- pow! concordokkened and you get a bunch of shiny loot to replace your loss. I feel like that would be fun as hell for both the black ops and the targets and considering the immense cost of the ship I dont feel like it would start happening all over the place. Remember, the Black Ops really only has the time to strike and jump out in 0.5, maybe 0.6 space and it has a window of only a few seconds to pull it off. ___________ Originally by: CCP Whisper Boo hoo. Cry some more.
Caffeine Junkie Atomic Battle Penguins	Posted - 2009.04.01 13:59:00 - [20] Just declare war and wait 24 hours, or go to one of the 90% of systems in the game where there is no CONCORD protection. Evading concord is a monumentally bad idea.
Tesseract d'Urberville Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord	Posted - 2009.04.01 18:12:00 - [21] Originally by: Khandara Seraphim I wouldn't mind seeing the black ops exploit get legitimized. ... I don't see the problem, frankly. If you lose your hulk to a black ops, get another one and mine in the same system with a cloaked friend in fleet with tackle nearby. Next time he tries it- pow! concordokkened and you get a bunch of shiny loot to replace your loss. Can you imagine anyone in a cloaked tackler sitting around hi-sec on the off-chance that a Black Ops will show up and try some funny business? Can you imagine a bigger waste of time for that pilot? The rules we have are fine; the rules we have work. If it's not broke, don't fix it. Also, correct me on this if I'm wrong, but if the Black Ops in this scenario were CONCORDed, wouldn't it still be illegal for anyone else to loot his wreck? --------------------------------- Thomas Hardy is going to eat your brains.
Tonto Auri Vhero' Multipurpose Corp	Posted - 2009.04.01 21:27:00 - [22] Originally by: Drake Draconis I Don't know whether to cry at the insanity... or to laugh uncontrollably. My reaction exactly. -- Thanks CCP for cu

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