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NxN
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Posted - 2009.03.30 20:59:00 -
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Hi all,
There is something I don't get (despite I am a noob)
I fly stabber with 220mm Medium Autocannons + EMP M
My tracking speed is 0.14, I am at my optimal, my angular velocity vs the target is 0.33 yet I can't hit a damn thing... what do I do wrong?
Somebody please enlighten me, I have the feeling I did more damage when flying a Rifter -.-
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Malarkie
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Posted - 2009.03.30 21:03:00 -
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Originally by: NxN Hi all,
There is something I don't get (despite I am a noob)
I fly stabber with 220mm Medium Autocannons + EMP M
My tracking speed is 0.14, I am at my optimal, my angular velocity vs the target is 0.33 yet I can't hit a damn thing... what do I do wrong?
Somebody please enlighten me, I have the feeling I did more damage when flying a Rifter -.-
You probably did. I know I did. 
What happens when you push your orbit out a bit more? 1k? 2k? And whats your transversal?
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NxN
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Posted - 2009.03.30 21:23:00 -
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My transvestal was bout 500m/sec.
I've tried all.. orbiting from 500m to 7.5km and still couldn't figure out where the best damage was.
Sometimes I hit and hit good at 1500m sometimes I can't hit for a love of god at this range, same type rat.
The targets are webbed too. So I am really clueless.
Shall I change to 125mm medium autocannons?
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yrknat
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Posted - 2009.03.30 21:47:00 -
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Use barrage ammo. Orbit at 12km+ range.
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NxN
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Posted - 2009.03.30 21:59:00 -
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Sorry, forgot to mention that I am on T1... would this be the reason?
I need two more weeks to be able to use medium T2.
-- Unfortunately, no one can be told what EVE is. You have to see it for yourself. |

yrknat
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Posted - 2009.03.30 22:13:00 -
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If your going to be flying in close, just use a rupture, rather than trying to fly the stabber like one.
Stabber needs the long range ammo and using range + speed as its tank. Doesnt work all that well without barrage.
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AstroPhobic
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.03.30 22:15:00 -
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Ignore that poster.
Use the "keep at" feature, stay at about 3km. that way you'll "kite" the frigs, making a transversal of 0, and popping them.
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Kamen
SRBI Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2009.03.30 23:17:00 -
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Well your target is still orbiting you twice as fast as your guns can track it. Your guns track at .14 radians per second and the target is orbiting at .33.
You also have to keep in mind that if you are shooting at a frig with AB, you will be shooting at a target that's 25m and your guns have 125m resolution, which makes it even harder to hit that target.
Normally (other than barrage), the solution is to either: 1) Further slow the target 2) Paint the target 3) Add tracking modules to your ship. ------------------------------------------------ (Recruiting ad) SRBI regrutuju! Dodjite na nas javni SRBI kanal. Kontakt Soder/Me West |

Ctp Hawkeye
Caldari Vice And Valour Zenith Affinity
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Posted - 2009.03.31 00:24:00 -
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Edited by: Ctp Hawkeye on 31/03/2009 00:24:18
Originally by: Kamen Well your target is still orbiting you twice as fast as your guns can track it. Your guns track at .14 radians per second and the target is orbiting at .33.
You also have to keep in mind that if you are shooting at a frig with AB, you will be shooting at a target that's 25m and your guns have 125m resolution, which makes it even harder to hit that target.
Normally (other than barrage), the solution is to either: 1) Further slow the target 2) Paint the target 3) Add tracking modules to your ship.
Epicfail
1) move away to lower transveral 2) Web them, you have a web right? 3) use ur mwd, so ur faster than the lolab frig. YOU DO HAVE A MWD RIGHT? ******** SIG :O ******** |

Mercurye
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.03.31 00:31:00 -
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Originally by: Ctp Hawkeye Edited by: Ctp Hawkeye on 31/03/2009 00:24:18
Originally by: Kamen Well your target is still orbiting you twice as fast as your guns can track it. Your guns track at .14 radians per second and the target is orbiting at .33.
You also have to keep in mind that if you are shooting at a frig with AB, you will be shooting at a target that's 25m and your guns have 125m resolution, which makes it even harder to hit that target.
Normally (other than barrage), the solution is to either: 1) Further slow the target 2) Paint the target 3) Add tracking modules to your ship.
Epicfail
1) move away to lower transveral 2) Web them, you have a web right? 3) use ur mwd, so ur faster than the lolab frig. YOU DO HAVE A MWD RIGHT?
/facepalm --~--~--~--~ ~NOTE: Freak~ |

Ctp Hawkeye
Caldari Vice And Valour Zenith Affinity
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Posted - 2009.03.31 01:00:00 -
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Originally by: Mercurye
Originally by: Ctp Hawkeye Edited by: Ctp Hawkeye on 31/03/2009 00:24:18
Originally by: Kamen Well your target is still orbiting you twice as fast as your guns can track it. Your guns track at .14 radians per second and the target is orbiting at .33.
You also have to keep in mind that if you are shooting at a frig with AB, you will be shooting at a target that's 25m and your guns have 125m resolution, which makes it even harder to hit that target.
Normally (other than barrage), the solution is to either: 1) Further slow the target 2) Paint the target 3) Add tracking modules to your ship.
Epicfail
1) move away to lower transveral 2) Web them, you have a web right? 3) use ur mwd, so ur faster than the lolab frig. YOU DO HAVE A MWD RIGHT?
/facepalm
tl;dr ******** SIG :O ******** |

Mercurye
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.03.31 01:25:00 -
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Edited by: Mercurye on 31/03/2009 01:25:55
Originally by: Ctp Hawkeye
Originally by: Mercurye
Originally by: Ctp Hawkeye Edited by: Ctp Hawkeye on 31/03/2009 00:24:18
Originally by: Kamen Well your target is still orbiting you twice as fast as your guns can track it. Your guns track at .14 radians per second and the target is orbiting at .33.
You also have to keep in mind that if you are shooting at a frig with AB, you will be shooting at a target that's 25m and your guns have 125m resolution, which makes it even harder to hit that target.
Normally (other than barrage), the solution is to either: 1) Further slow the target 2) Paint the target 3) Add tracking modules to your ship.
Epicfail
1) move away to lower transveral 2) Web them, you have a web right? 3) use ur mwd, so ur faster than the lolab frig. YOU DO HAVE A MWD RIGHT?
/facepalm
tl;dr
There you go Captain, for those illiterate, a PICture Linkage
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NxN
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Posted - 2009.03.31 19:23:00 -
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Originally by: Kamen Your guns track at .14 radians per second and the target is orbiting at .33...
Hmm.. right.. I don't know why but I thought .14 was faster then .33. This must be it then.
Also didn't know about keeping at range trick. Good to know :)
No, I don't have MWD cause I can't use it in missions... guess I should have mentioned it was for PvE...
Thank you all for helping out the noob :)
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Megan Maynard
Minmatar Out of Order Tenth Legion
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Posted - 2009.03.31 19:35:00 -
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Originally by: Kamen Well your target is still orbiting you twice as fast as your guns can track it. Your guns track at .14 radians per second and the target is orbiting at .33.
You also have to keep in mind that if you are shooting at a frig with AB, you will be shooting at a target that's 25m and your guns have 125m resolution, which makes it even harder to hit that target.
Normally (other than barrage), the solution is to either: 1) Further slow the target 2) Paint the target 3) Add tracking modules to your ship.
Those are SOME options....
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