Originally by: Midas Man

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Edited by: Midas Man on 02/04/2009 10:33:31
The high end pirate implants come from Pirate 0.0 space.

I used to deal with them a while ago as a few large 0.0 alliance used to come into Jita dump them on my cheap buy order, I would then sell them in a week for anywhere from 25%-100% mark up depending on competition.

I got greedy and spoke to a few regular sellers trying to push my purchase price down further, A few weeks later i noticed sell prices dropping my buy orders were not filling and when i check my competition it was the same people i was after a cheap deal from.

In contacting them I highlighted the potential extra profit they could be making (if someone was willing to spend 10-20 bill a week for them there must be a market)

I suspect that the allaince(s) now use multiple people to make sure they are best priced all the time.

try undercutting with 1 item then as soon as they undercut you place another on the market at 0.01isk less, When i did this after the second item went up my competition also listed an Item 0.01isk less, this continued until an empty market turned into a flooded market.


This was over a year ago and things might have changed in that market but i suspect you are fighting and organisatation with more Isk, more people to monitor markets and a comptitor that is the major source of the items.

I would suggest looking for other items to trade and watch the implant markets over a few months you will soon see when to buy and when to sell, but it does mean keeping capital tied up for long periods and so leaves you at risk of the infamous nerf bat, but diversify well and you should profit elsewhere when the nerf bat hits.

eg Snake sets lost me a bit of money but crystals and slave sets increased in price and over all i was still up. (inregards to the speed changes)

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Originally by: Armoured C

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i am one of the people that do stay on for a sustained period amount of time to ensure my orders are filled.

for the lulz i caused the prices to lower on a perticualr item that i knew sold well from it usual 950k a item to 790k a item with continual undercutting and then brought everyone out who was going down to that price. yes i sold a few under profit but the profit i gained with the entire set i brought up was justifiable to drop the prices :)


sometimes it is good that people would like the isk stright away and have blinkers to see there product go. i sold around 36 items under 100k profit but then brought up 300 units of that item :) and sold them for my profit to recoperate :)



i am not a bot

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Originally by: dr doooo

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Did you even read my post. I guess not. I've been involved in these markets for getting on 4 years. I don't mean to be rude, but form your post, I would guess you dabbled for a short time, and drew some false conclusions about what was going on there.

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Originally by: Akita T

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In an ideally constructed trader game mechanic and client trading user interface, using a third party bot would have no benefits whatsoever, or negligible benefits at best.
How to do that ? Either make those things that make a bot good impossible to do (which in itself would be nearly impossible to do) or make the bot irrelevant (by introducing server-side logic/automation that would do pretty much the same thing automatically for everybody, eliminating the need for a bot in the first place).

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Originally by: YouGotRipped

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That's right, Sally!
May I recommend that we shift the discussion in the direction Sally pointed us?

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Originally by: Buster Gonads

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We can call them Market Agents. While we're at it, I want other agents to behave in a similar way. Can't be arsed to mine? Ask your mining agent to do it. Can't be arsed to rat? Ask your security agent to do it. Fed up with clicking tiny icons? Ask your surgeon to fix the RSI in your hand.

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Originally by: LarcatOfRens

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Actually it is called a limit order........... Most of the world has them.

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Originally by: Midas Man

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We are playing in a fictional setting in space, even if it wasn't fictional the world is a tiny spec in that space and hence most of the world having them isnt significant.

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