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ActiveX
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Posted - 2004.08.23 12:05:00 -
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Tempest looks like a flying vacuum, course it sucks.
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ActiveX
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Posted - 2004.08.23 12:05:00 -
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Tempest looks like a flying vacuum, course it sucks.
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Sex / Rank 9 / SP: 1280 of 2304000
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darth solo
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Posted - 2004.08.23 12:05:00 -
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everyone knows the tempest is the worst tier 2 BS ingame the now... its not REALLY bad, its just not good... we have been testing it, and u really struggle to get the damage from the 800s, or the tracking from the 1400s...
i think the problem is this, players are peed off that they have trained up gunnery, and other skills to suit the tempest... but cant find a setup that can compete..
i specialised on the tempest, with 5mill gunnery and minnie BS lvl 5... wish i didnt.
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darth solo
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Posted - 2004.08.23 12:05:00 -
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everyone knows the tempest is the worst tier 2 BS ingame the now... its not REALLY bad, its just not good... we have been testing it, and u really struggle to get the damage from the 800s, or the tracking from the 1400s...
i think the problem is this, players are peed off that they have trained up gunnery, and other skills to suit the tempest... but cant find a setup that can compete..
i specialised on the tempest, with 5mill gunnery and minnie BS lvl 5... wish i didnt.
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Hakera
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Posted - 2004.08.23 12:13:00 -
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 Originally by: Rod Hardington
Selim, clearly you care what alts think... The only reason I use an alt is to keep my main from looking stupid.
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Hakera
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Posted - 2004.08.23 12:13:00 -
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Originally by: Rod Hardington
Selim, clearly you care what alts think... The only reason I use an alt is to keep my main from looking stupid.
Dumbledore - Eve-I.com |
ByBy Baby
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Posted - 2004.08.23 12:25:00 -
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The prob is not Tempes, its projektiles and cap resharges on lowslot is cripling the shield tanking. 
Tempest shuld do ALOT of damage when it hits or do the crapy damage it do now and hit alot moor that it does now.
Yes, i do have good skills, sŐ its not that.
Fix the tracking on projektiles or make them the damagedealer as they use to be.
What good is there if you have a gun that can shoot the longest but have a ship that have the worst lockingrange?
Y, you can put mod on that helps you whit that, but then you have a slot less than the other Bs.
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ByBy Baby
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Posted - 2004.08.23 12:25:00 -
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The prob is not Tempes, its projektiles and cap resharges on lowslot is cripling the shield tanking.
Tempest shuld do ALOT of damage when it hits or do the crapy damage it do now and hit alot moor that it does now.
Yes, i do have good skills, sŐ its not that.
Fix the tracking on projektiles or make them the damagedealer as they use to be.
What good is there if you have a gun that can shoot the longest but have a ship that have the worst lockingrange?
Y, you can put mod on that helps you whit that, but then you have a slot less than the other Bs.
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Hornymatt
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Posted - 2004.08.23 12:35:00 -
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Originally by: ByBy Baby
The prob is not Tempes, its projektiles and cap resharges on lowslot is cripling the shield tanking.
Tempest shuld do ALOT of damage when it hits or do the crapy damage it do now and hit alot moor that it does now.
Yes, i do have good skills, sŐ its not that.
Fix the tracking on projektiles or make them the damagedealer as they use to be.
What good is there if you have a gun that can shoot the longest but have a ship that have the worst lockingrange?
Y, you can put mod on that helps you whit that, but then you have a slot less than the other Bs.
Here here,
I've got bs5, large projectiles5 and other gunnery skills to 4 and still need a couple of tracking enhancers2's to hit with reasonble consistency. Without them i couldn't hit a barn door from the inside. But with them i find i am hitting frigates and cruisers at range with no particular problem, it's just when they get closer and their transverse velocity increase that i'm stuck again - i guess this is the idea of 1400's but there doesn't appear to be the extreme range sniping option to compensate.
Just my 2 isks worth...
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Hornymatt
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Posted - 2004.08.23 12:35:00 -
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Originally by: ByBy Baby
The prob is not Tempes, its projektiles and cap resharges on lowslot is cripling the shield tanking.
Tempest shuld do ALOT of damage when it hits or do the crapy damage it do now and hit alot moor that it does now.
Yes, i do have good skills, sŐ its not that.
Fix the tracking on projektiles or make them the damagedealer as they use to be.
What good is there if you have a gun that can shoot the longest but have a ship that have the worst lockingrange?
Y, you can put mod on that helps you whit that, but then you have a slot less than the other Bs.
Here here,
I've got bs5, large projectiles5 and other gunnery skills to 4 and still need a couple of tracking enhancers2's to hit with reasonble consistency. Without them i couldn't hit a barn door from the inside. But with them i find i am hitting frigates and cruisers at range with no particular problem, it's just when they get closer and their transverse velocity increase that i'm stuck again - i guess this is the idea of 1400's but there doesn't appear to be the extreme range sniping option to compensate.
Just my 2 isks worth...
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Selim
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Posted - 2004.08.23 12:46:00 -
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Originally by: Valeria
Edited by: Valeria on 23/08/2004 10:09:02
Some stats:
Tempest with full array of 1400 'scouts' and five damage mods (peak damage output): 390 damage / second, not counting reload delay.
Megathron with full array of 425mm Prototypes and seven damage mods: 800+ damage / second, cap use not a problem.
Armaggedon with full array of Modulated Mega Pulse and eight damage mods: 900+ damage / second, cap use again not a problem.
As for capacitory capacity. At average skill levels the Apocalypse has like 40% more capacity. The Tempest is not good at either shield or armor tanking, and nor is it good at dealing damage. What is it good at, exactly? I can think of one use... it's high base speed would make a great dual MWD / 6 warp core uber shuttle. 
Edit: And yes I realize this is flamebait but I take every opportunity I can to spam about how crappy the Tempest is, cause I currently am limited to flying one, and it hurts.
Sorry, but the typhoon beats it on that shuttle idea... its faster. Tempy just dont have what it takes.
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Selim
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Posted - 2004.08.23 12:46:00 -
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Originally by: Valeria
Edited by: Valeria on 23/08/2004 10:09:02
Some stats:
Tempest with full array of 1400 'scouts' and five damage mods (peak damage output): 390 damage / second, not counting reload delay.
Megathron with full array of 425mm Prototypes and seven damage mods: 800+ damage / second, cap use not a problem.
Armaggedon with full array of Modulated Mega Pulse and eight damage mods: 900+ damage / second, cap use again not a problem.
As for capacitory capacity. At average skill levels the Apocalypse has like 40% more capacity. The Tempest is not good at either shield or armor tanking, and nor is it good at dealing damage. What is it good at, exactly? I can think of one use... it's high base speed would make a great dual MWD / 6 warp core uber shuttle.
Edit: And yes I realize this is flamebait but I take every opportunity I can to spam about how crappy the Tempest is, cause I currently am limited to flying one, and it hurts.
Sorry, but the typhoon beats it on that shuttle idea... its faster. Tempy just dont have what it takes.
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Wulfgard
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Posted - 2004.08.23 13:36:00 -
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ARRG!!! I am so tired of people that use forums to ask for nerfs in order to get a tactical advantage on their own ship. To the original poster: so you got owned by a tempest pilot and you have lost your scorp?
Have you consider 3 things:
-the guy you faced had more pvp experience
-the guy had faced had more skill points than you (prolly true of a tempest pilot)
-you didnt rig you ship properly (very common mistake w/ scorp pilots due to large array of slots)
But instead you blame your loss to a ship not to a player.
What need to be nerfed here (if something) is stupidity and lazyness 
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Wulfgard
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Posted - 2004.08.23 13:36:00 -
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ARRG!!! I am so tired of people that use forums to ask for nerfs in order to get a tactical advantage on their own ship. To the original poster: so you got owned by a tempest pilot and you have lost your scorp?
Have you consider 3 things:
-the guy you faced had more pvp experience
-the guy had faced had more skill points than you (prolly true of a tempest pilot)
-you didnt rig you ship properly (very common mistake w/ scorp pilots due to large array of slots)
But instead you blame your loss to a ship not to a player.
What need to be nerfed here (if something) is stupidity and lazyness
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Hornymatt
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Posted - 2004.08.23 14:18:00 -
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Originally by: Wulfgard
ARRG!!! I am so tired of people that use forums to ask for nerfs in order to get a tactical advantage on their own ship. To the original poster: so you got owned by a tempest pilot and you have lost your scorp?
Have you consider 3 things:
-the guy you faced had more pvp experience
-the guy had faced had more skill points than you (prolly true of a tempest pilot)
-you didnt rig you ship properly (very common mistake w/ scorp pilots due to large array of slots)
But instead you blame your loss to a ship not to a player.
What need to be nerfed here (if something) is stupidity and lazyness
Thankyou for saying it so elequently - and this is from a lazy person
I find the Tempest as a fine ship, good enough as a general combat ship, if not fuffilling it's true role as long range sniper. Each time there are changes some ships are bound to do comparatively better (or less worse) than others, this time 'round it was perhaps the Temp's. When i started Eve (i'm one year old today btw) the common consensus seemed to be that the then uber ship the Apoc was dead and the new king was the Scorp (albeit that it's a tier1 ship). Now it seems that many regard the Apoc as the bs to have...
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Hornymatt
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Posted - 2004.08.23 14:18:00 -
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Originally by: Wulfgard
ARRG!!! I am so tired of people that use forums to ask for nerfs in order to get a tactical advantage on their own ship. To the original poster: so you got owned by a tempest pilot and you have lost your scorp?
Have you consider 3 things:
-the guy you faced had more pvp experience
-the guy had faced had more skill points than you (prolly true of a tempest pilot)
-you didnt rig you ship properly (very common mistake w/ scorp pilots due to large array of slots)
But instead you blame your loss to a ship not to a player.
What need to be nerfed here (if something) is stupidity and lazyness
Thankyou for saying it so elequently - and this is from a lazy person
I find the Tempest as a fine ship, good enough as a general combat ship, if not fuffilling it's true role as long range sniper. Each time there are changes some ships are bound to do comparatively better (or less worse) than others, this time 'round it was perhaps the Temp's. When i started Eve (i'm one year old today btw) the common consensus seemed to be that the then uber ship the Apoc was dead and the new king was the Scorp (albeit that it's a tier1 ship). Now it seems that many regard the Apoc as the bs to have...
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Mad Miner2
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Posted - 2004.08.23 14:29:00 -
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ONG !! tempest is t3h _ber!!
i took 4 M0os BS's yestuday and OMGWTF PWND em all 
AU YEAH !! the proJCkTIlES are now TOTALLY _b-r !!!
got like 23452345 Wrekkings and F*Cking AWESOME ROf!!!1111oneoneonelven
My fitting On TemEst is so _b-r that it Spits FIre and farts Lightning! and can warp to objekt from range scanner !!! 
OMG nerf it N0W!!11!1!1222222
and i am stupid alt user arrr
this was an simulation of alt trying to taunt all Tempest users whit 12+M skillpoints invested in it - this is not real rant
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Mad Miner2
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Posted - 2004.08.23 14:29:00 -
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ONG !! tempest is t3h _ber!!
i took 4 M0os BS's yestuday and OMGWTF PWND em all
AU YEAH !! the proJCkTIlES are now TOTALLY _b-r !!!
got like 23452345 Wrekkings and F*Cking AWESOME ROf!!!1111oneoneonelven
My fitting On TemEst is so _b-r that it Spits FIre and farts Lightning! and can warp to objekt from range scanner !!!
OMG nerf it N0W!!11!1!1222222
and i am stupid alt user arrr
this was an simulation of alt trying to taunt all Tempest users whit 12+M skillpoints invested in it - this is not real rant
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Hanns
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Posted - 2004.08.23 18:45:00 -
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Originally by: Rod Hardington
The ship that is really bad is the Scorp, its totally worthless. With 8 mids it's clearly for shield tanking, look at it's bonuses. I can't shield tank a scorp and still survive long enough to kill an apoc! Seriously, it's a total waste.
All i can say is ROFLMFAO "newb alert"
Sorry but 99% of pvp'ers will tell you the scorpion is one of the best battleships around, its very versitile, its only lacking offensive power, but its mainly a suppourt ship, but can take down other battleships who aint prepared!
only sheild tanking, ROFL get a clue!
You need to end yourself, and stop posting crap on the forums!
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Hanns
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Posted - 2004.08.23 18:45:00 -
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Originally by: Rod Hardington
The ship that is really bad is the Scorp, its totally worthless. With 8 mids it's clearly for shield tanking, look at it's bonuses. I can't shield tank a scorp and still survive long enough to kill an apoc! Seriously, it's a total waste.
All i can say is ROFLMFAO "newb alert"
Sorry but 99% of pvp'ers will tell you the scorpion is one of the best battleships around, its very versitile, its only lacking offensive power, but its mainly a suppourt ship, but can take down other battleships who aint prepared!
only sheild tanking, ROFL get a clue!
You need to end yourself, and stop posting crap on the forums!
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