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Jeremy Firewind
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Posted - 2012.05.02 21:51:00 -
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Hey,
I find it totally untolarable, that 3 1 mill Isk ships can easily gank my tanked 300mill hull. Sorry, but this makes me really sad. It put me out of business for good, that was my last money. Your cool event just cost CCP a subscriber.
Yes tears are delightful, yadda, yadda, no stuff is to be had, because it all exploded. |

Jeremy Firewind
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Posted - 2012.05.02 21:57:00 -
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As I said, yes. These tears are what you after, have them. Risk/ Reward/Cost are totally out of whack here. Being capable to destroy a ship with a 100th of the isk in the "safer" empire space is just ridicoulus.
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Jeremy Firewind
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Posted - 2012.05.02 22:13:00 -
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Katja Faith wrote:Hulka-what? So basically, you're a wuss and quit?
Gotcha.
No I just don't see how 3 moronic griefers with no risk will make me mine for wweeks on end to get another Hulk.
That is the point. And yes, maybe I am a wuss. |

Jeremy Firewind
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Posted - 2012.05.02 22:24:00 -
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Vaal Erit wrote:Jeremy Firewind wrote:As I said, yes. These tears are what you after, have them. Risk/ Reward/Cost are totally out of whack here. Being capable to destroy a ship with a 100th of the isk in the "safer" empire space is just ridicoulus.
And I know that this will get trolled to hell and back. Hiding behind some Internet Avatar and flinging big words is easy, heh? Well this was my last reply here, fly safe. Nah, EVE is a skill based game with a strategic focus in that you have to plan out your ship fit strategy in advance. Being successful in EVE requires brains and skill not who swipes their credit card the most. You are looking for games under the category Pay2Win.
Yes skill, that takes 10hrs to create a toon to fly a thrasher and just press f1 once... really skillful players. The mechanic to punish you is easily circumvented by just deleting the toon. Rinse, repeat...
This is skilfull exactly where? |

Jeremy Firewind
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Posted - 2012.05.03 00:31:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: And it's really hard to not find something to do in EVE besides mining. If that's all you are doing, you are missing the entire POINT of the game entirely.
So man up, and deal with your loss and play.
I was so mad, I was determined to get back in my Osprey as soon as possible. And I had to mission to do it, again, not mine.
I did not find out what H'geddon was for another few months.
It is YOUR fault you lost your Hulk. And if you can afford that, another one is not far behind IF you work for it. Or do you want to be given things easy ?
If so, this is not the game for you after all.
So harden up or GTFO.
We don't want to hear it.
If everyone did just that, doing something else than mining, then you'd run out of ships to fly pretty fast. So do not tell me that I miss the point of the game entirely.
What happens here is griefing par excellence. And this has nothing to do with htfu. Would you go and beat up a third grader, knock him sensless, knowing, he has no other possiblity to defend himself and then run around in the street yelling htfu? Why do not all the griefers htfu and choose a real opponent? Like shooting Goons out of their space or something. Oh wait, maybe there the enemies might fight back and the oh-so-hard destroyer pilots might be send home packing...
Why do you think that pressuring your idea of fun onto others is making them having fun too? I totally lack the time to do more than a couple hours of recreation in front of the PC a week. I like to spend those mining. I wonder who is the carebear here? Those who know they can grief with absolutely no risk or those who put weeks of gameplay on the line?
So go someplace else with your htfu... As stated before Risk/Reward/Punishment is blown totally out of proportion here.
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Jeremy Firewind
German Tactical Industry
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Posted - 2012.05.03 00:34:00 -
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Aggressive Nutmeg wrote:
Also, your spelling is intolerable.
Double also, I'm not here to collect your tears. I think that sucks too. I'm just here to tell you to harden up and learn.
Well aren't you cute.. How many languages do you speak perfectly?
Picking on someone whos first language is not english is kinda lame.
But let me guess, you are just "hardening me up", aren't you? |

Jeremy Firewind
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Posted - 2012.05.03 00:47:00 -
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Red Rydah wrote:I find Hulkageddon a great experience for me as a player. Just because I can't fly my retriever does not mean I can't play the game. Understanding how Hulkageddon affects the market leads to profit if you know how to read the graphs. I also mine but not with my retriever.
Most importantly, you learn. A chance encounter with a player (I won't mention his name but he knows who he is) helped me understand how to build a better tank that will benefit me when I start getting serious about mission running. I also got a better understanding on what skills help with what kind of damage resistance on both shield and armor.
Ragequitting not only makes you look like a baby, it also means you lost the opportunity to learn from and experience this great game
RR
If it did not take so long to get back on the feet, then maybe "ragequitting" would not be the option. As I usually have not more than 3-4 hours a week, we are talking about quite some time getting back into the ship.
That being said, after that time, I can have 3 guys in ships, that are earned in like 30 minutes blowing me up again. As I said, maybe I am a wuss, maybe I look like a baby. Maybe I just want to take my hard earned cash somewhere else for recreation. Geez. Same as I said before. Can't you imagine, that pressuring your idea of fun and entertainment onto someone else does not mean fun and entertainment for them? |

Jeremy Firewind
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Posted - 2012.05.03 00:49:00 -
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Drake Draconis wrote:Jeremy Firewind wrote:Aggressive Nutmeg wrote:
Also, your spelling is intolerable.
Double also, I'm not here to collect your tears. I think that sucks too. I'm just here to tell you to harden up and learn.
Well aren't you cute.. How many languages do you speak perfectly? Picking on someone whos first language is not english is kinda lame. But let me guess, you are just "hardening me up", aren't you? Why havn't you quit yet? I mean you said you where leaving right? So what the hell is taking so damn long? Quit already!
yawn, if I had some fish I'd really love to give it to you, since you have been such a nice troll |

Jeremy Firewind
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Posted - 2012.05.03 00:54:00 -
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Maxpie wrote:Jeremy Firewind wrote: The mechanic to punish you is easily circumvented by just deleting the toon. Rinse, repeat...
This is skilfull exactly where?
This is a valid point actually. It should be 1 toon per account. Grow a pair, don't hide behind recyclable alts. Oh, and OP, Eve really isn't the game for you.
Yes I figured that one out by myself. Sadly I just renewed for another 3 months, so this will still be running for a while, but it's time to move on.
Thank you for your constructive post. |

Jeremy Firewind
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Posted - 2012.05.03 00:58:00 -
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Dodixie MarketSlave wrote:Seriusly, I dont want to look harsh of something like that, but everybody knows and you knew before you sing up that EVE is a hardcore game. People plays eve because they can **** other people, PvP and there is no secure area. I mean High sec is highly situational... To sum up part of the EvE sucess as a game is because of it's ruthless nature, other way people would be playing softcore mmo's like WoW and etc.
Yes but hardcore does also mean in my book that a certain rewarding situation (getting a kill, getting the lewt, getting the salvage) needs to come at a risk. These "ruthless" guys you are referring to are just the 12th grader you'd expect extorting the lunch money from a third grader....
No risk, all reward. Come on, is that so hard to see. These htfu yellers are the real carebears. Nothing hardcore here. |

Jeremy Firewind
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Posted - 2012.05.03 01:00:00 -
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StonerPhReaK wrote:What are you doing losing ships in nullsec then complaining about losing an imaginary w/e it is you lost? http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=1306141During hulkageddon the mails get posted extra fast. So stop trollin cuzz round here it aint fishin season.
Well I did what some other people told me to do. Looked around to see if I liked other parts of the game. Which i did not... |

Jeremy Firewind
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Posted - 2012.05.03 01:00:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Jeremy Firewind wrote:Katja Faith wrote:Hulka-what? So basically, you're a wuss and quit?
Gotcha. No I just don't see how 3 moronic griefers with no risk will make me mine for wweeks on end to get another Hulk. That is the point. And yes, maybe I am a wuss. Because being blown up by CONCORD, losing sec status & knowing that some random person may possibly get the loot is zero risk.
Since these are not the main toons, but purpose built characters, yes 0 risk. |

Jeremy Firewind
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Posted - 2012.05.03 10:04:00 -
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Alcatraz184 wrote: Firstly, as its explained everywhere... EVE Online is a sandbox game. Creating a truly safe place in a game which is all about "doing what ever you want" is fundamentally wrong.
Hypocrisy i believe is the correct term for this "i want to mine where you can not kill me" roughly translates too, "I want to do what I want to do, but at the same time prevent you from doing what you want to do".
There are preventative measures on both sides, hulks are hard to cut through solo in a 0.7 as concord turn up a little faster than in a 0.5
1. mine in a higher sec system, or quiet system, 2. stay aligned 3. watch directional scan 4. drag and drop ore as normal.
All good and valid points. It just should not be possible to gank that easily.
If say someone turned up in a Mega and wasted your Avatar, without you having a possibility to defend yourself, you'd cry on the forums too.
Too little put on the line for too much destroyed. Simple balance issue. I have no problem with being ganked in Highsec. I just think it should take more effort and cost to kill a tanked t2 ship than 3 destroyers.
This is somewhat like the removal of the doomsday in its early form. Too little effort was needed to destroy too much. Now you can still blow up a 500 man gang at once with bombs. Same result as triple doomsday, but takes way more effort (more players). See the difference? |

Jeremy Firewind
German Tactical Industry
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Posted - 2012.05.03 10:56:00 -
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Zelda Feegle wrote:A lot of interesting stuff.
Thank you for your lengthy reply. You just do not get my angle. see my above post about doomsdays. It is just too easy to wreak such substantial havoc. now I sit around and can basically do nothing. In essence this is a 45 bucks (3 months) for me down the drain. If that is how ccp intended to have the game played, then indeed I am wrong here.
This is just to much money I pay for a design flaw.
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Jeremy Firewind
German Tactical Industry
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Posted - 2012.05.03 14:32:00 -
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TheGunslinger42 wrote:Jeremy Firewind wrote:Hey,
I find it totally untolarable, that 3 1 mill Isk ships can easily gank my tanked 300mill hull. Sorry, but this makes me really sad. It put me out of business for good, that was my last money. Your cool event just cost CCP a subscriber.
Yes tears are delightful, yadda, yadda, no stuff is to be had, because it all exploded. "tanked" many lols were had ty mr troll
Ahhh, who told you that :( Now I am found out. Hello C&P
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Jeremy Firewind
German Tactical Industry
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Posted - 2012.05.03 14:44:00 -
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uwai223 wrote:Maxpie wrote:Jeremy Firewind wrote: The mechanic to punish you is easily circumvented by just deleting the toon. Rinse, repeat...
This is skilfull exactly where?
This is a valid point actually. It should be 1 toon per account. Grow a pair, don't hide behind recyclable alts. Oh, and OP, Eve really isn't the game for you. Recycling characters characters to avoid the negative consequences of low sec status is a bannable offense, also biomassing a character takes a while (2-5 days I think). Also OP, you're ******* terrible.
Aww come on. not THAT terrible. I'd give myself a 6/10 since I kept a straight face and was somewhat productive in the ensuing discussion |

Jeremy Firewind
German Tactical Industry
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Posted - 2012.05.03 16:15:00 -
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Plekto wrote:Solo in 0.5 in a mining ship. That's the definition of ninja mining, quite literally. Choosing a mining barge or similar ship to do it in is simply poor judgement.
Trying to turn it into forum fodder for more nerfs and penalties is just poor gamesmanship, because I say so and you have to like to play the game like I do.
FTFY |

Jeremy Firewind
German Tactical Industry
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Posted - 2012.05.03 16:54:00 -
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Jack Carrigan wrote:Jeremy Firewind wrote:Hey,
I find it totally untolarable, that 3 1 mill Isk ships can easily gank my tanked 300mill hull. Sorry, but this makes me really sad. It put me out of business for good, that was my last money. Your cool event just cost CCP a subscriber.
Yes tears are delightful, yadda, yadda, no stuff is to be had, because it all exploded. The Hulk is an INDUSTRIAL ship. It is not designed to be able to stand up to ships designed for combat operations (such as destroyers) especially if they are working in tandem. Every time there is some dumb**** that can't fathom that barges and exhumers aren't designed for the capability to ward off multiple attackers, especially if they are fit properly. Then again, you were probably one of those AFK miners that doesn't pay attention to Local, D-Scan or your Overview.
No I was not, it just takes ages to pick up speed and warp. aligning all the time is quite impossible due to low range of the lasers.
what you said would be true, if one really could field a defense. yet eves mechanics do not allow for something like that. even if you had two friends in rifters backing you up, they could do nothing before the agressors shot first. and since they come in kamikaze like there is nothing left to for your Escort but to watch you explode. |
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